#99: Dan Harary- "What If?! Truman Announced WE ARE NOT ALONE After The Roswell UFO Crash"

0:00 All y. I occasionally think how quickly our difference is worldwide would vanish if

0:18 we were facing an alien threat from outside this work. And yet I ask

0:21 if it's not an alien force already amongst we must guard against the acquisition of

0:26 unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsolved by the military industrial compact. The potential

0:32 or the disastrous rise or misplaced power exists and will persist. Now I am

0:57 becoming a world in my associate case of the Project group, but it definitely

1:00 withheld information. We'll look on thefa. We're all going again for you shall

1:15 be swear we're for the testimony you're about to give us the truth, the

1:18 whole truth, and nothing the truth. So help you god. Do you

1:21 believe that our government is in possession of you? And these? Absolutely?

1:40 All right? Welcome back everybody to total disclosure. I'm having a little issue

1:45 with my camera, so anyone who is watching, I'm gonna be fixing that

1:49 in just a moment. Today we have Dan her Arrah, I'm so excited.

1:56 Episode ninety nine. Dan, can you believe it? That's very cool?

2:00 Congratulations yep, episode ninety nine, and we got we got, I

2:05 should say, Dan Harrari that rhymes with rhymes with Ferrari Tyler. That's how

2:09 I remember. That's how I remember it. So you right, and we

2:14 don't even need to go into your your your background, because we've already done

2:17 that. This is this is your second time on the show. You are

2:21 a founding member or the founder, one of the two founders with Stephen Bassett

2:27 of what is now known as the Hollywood Disclosure Alliance, which I can proudly

2:31 say that I'm a part of also. And I thought, what better way

2:36 to kick off not only the new year, but to kick off this partnership

2:42 than to bring you on. And then our one hundredth episode is with Serena

2:46 Ducie, another founding member of the of the HDA, and she just had

2:52 her film come out. Oh god, I'm blanking on the name of her

2:55 her latest film, We Are Not Alone. We are not Alone, Thank

3:00 you. So we are not Alone. And then she did CE five,

3:04 uh, the Contact Experience. Uh. And and she you know, she's

3:07 part of that uh that she really mentored under doctor Greer, and she is

3:14 uh, you know, a part of that side and and and of of

3:17 those beliefs. Not to factionalize it, but you know, that's that's where

3:23 we are speaking of. Which what I love about what you're doing with the

3:28 h d A is you're bringing two worlds together. Now, how did this,

3:31 How did this happen? Like how whose brain child was this? And

3:37 how did this emerge? Because what you're aiming to do is tell more real

3:43 stories in Hollywood. Partner with people in Hollywood, and you know, maybe

3:47 get rid of some of the alien invasion storylines and the more sci fie,

3:53 you know, out there landish stuff and bring in some of the real stuff

3:57 because in reality it's always stranger than fiction. Okay, I'll tell you exactly

4:05 what happened. So last year I was on your show to promote my book

4:10 After They Came, which is right here, Yes, and it's on Amazon

4:15 everyone, and it'll be in the link. It's in the link. It'll

4:18 be in the link in the description below. Sony wants it, Can I

4:24 grab that from there? That's great, thank you. So I wrote my

4:28 book After They Came. It was published last March, and as soon as

4:32 it got published, I started to promote it. The very first place I

4:38 promoted it at was Alien Con in Pasadena, and that's where I met Eric

4:44 von Danik and I gave him a copy of my book. I handed it

4:46 to him and he said, oh, thank you, Dan, I haven't

4:49 read this one yet. I said, Eric, it was published yesterday.

4:51 That's probably why you haven't seen it yet. This is a gift. And

4:56 that's where I met Nick Pope. I ran it too, geor Giodsuclos Again,

5:00 it's like the fifth time i'd met him, and Paul Heinik and David

5:05 Childress and just lots of lots of one legend, Jeremy Corbel and George Knapp.

5:12 I met them all at alien Con. So that was early early March

5:15 last year. Two weeks later, and you were supposed to be there,

5:19 but I think you had a car accident or something I did. And this

5:23 is like one of my biggest, biggest, biggest bummers. Yeah. So

5:30 h third week in March last year was UFO Con in San Francisco, and

5:36 that's where you were. You're going to be, So I promoted my book

5:40 there as well, And while I was there, my brother he lives nearby,

5:45 so we went together and we watched Stephen Bassett's presentation which was about disclosure

5:49 and how important it is where we stand and how it in his opinion,

5:54 it's imminent. So I was very, very fascinated by Stephen Bassett. That

6:00 night, he was eating dinner in the hotel restaurant with some of his friends

6:03 and my brother and I walked past him and I said, hey, Stephen,

6:06 I enjoyed your talk. Here's a copy of my book as a gift.

6:10 And I said, by the way, if you ever get to La,

6:12 give me a call. And he says, what do you do?

6:15 I said, I'm a publicist. Gose, Dan, you're a publicist.

6:16 He goes, I need a publicist. So we exchanged business cards and then

6:21 that was March. Now we cut to early early June last year. Stephen

6:28 was in La. Called me up. Let's have lunch. So we had

6:30 lunch together in Hollywood and he told me his life story. I told him

6:34 my life story, and then he looked at me Tyler. He goes,

6:39 he goes, Dan, between us, we have a lot of contacts,

6:43 a lot of experience. What can we do together? And I looked up

6:46 at this guy for a second, and then I looked at him and I

6:48 said, Steven, let's create the Hollywood Disclosure Alliance. And he said,

6:53 oh my god, what's that? And I said I don't know, but

6:57 I said, I don't know, but that's what we're going to do,

6:59 and he goes great. So we shook hands. It was my idea,

7:01 it was my it was my baby. We shook hands and we said,

7:05 let's bring together you know, your UAP researchers and activists and experiencers, because

7:13 Steven knows everyone, as you know, Steven knows everyone in that world.

7:15 And I know a lot. I know a lot of Hollywood people. I've

7:19 been a Hollywood publicist for forty years. This this month is actually forty years

7:24 for me. Yeah, and we and for anyone who doesn't like, for

7:29 anyone wants to know, go back and watch. I'll have to. I'll

7:32 link it here. And in the description for our first episode, some of

7:36 the people that you've met along the years and like like we went into all

7:42 of that in episode one, the people's representession met and been in the room

7:48 with and you know, got dry cleaning for it was it's amazing pretty much

7:55 pretty much. Well that yeah, well that's that's my first book. While

7:57 we're plugging Flirting with Fame. That's my Hollywood career there, yes, and

8:01 that's and and and that's why I think what you're doing is is monumental because

8:07 you know, for many years we've talked about it in ufology, how mainstream

8:13 media and Hollywood is they do kind of shape the general public's view or the

8:22 general publics, like whether they want to know it or not, their perception

8:28 of aliens. Aliens in general, always bad, always here to take our

8:33 resources, always trying to kill us and enslave us. But we don't see

8:41 that as the real case. Well that's that's a good point, and that's

8:46 a big part of why Stephen and I created HDA, So Hollywood Disclosure,

8:50 all right, So that was early early June. We thought of it.

8:54 That's when we just had that just the handshake, yeah, and just the

8:58 thought of it, that's all. Then that weekend, Stephen invited me to

9:01 be his guest at Contact in the Desert, so he and I and he

9:05 introduced me around and that's where I met Nick Pope and Richard Dolan and George

9:09 Nory and Katie Page and a lot of other wonderful people. And we started

9:15 telling people, hey, you know, we have this crazy idea, and

9:18 so Nick Pope said, oh, absolutely, I'm in. You know.

9:20 George nor I told him to his face, George could said, Danny,

9:24 I want to be your very first member. George Nuri was our first member,

9:28 believe it or not. So Stephen and I are look at each other

9:31 like, you know, we have a tiger. We have a tiger by

9:33 the tail here and again, Tyler, this was just an idea. We

9:37 didn't even have the logo yet. It was an idea, that's all.

9:39 It was. So contact we were spreading around. Then, over the course

9:43 of last summer and early last fall, Stephen and I had lunch every time

9:50 he was in la and we would add some of his friends and some of

9:52 my friends, and some of his colleagues and some of my colleagues, and

9:56 over the course of the summer and the fall, built up a board of

10:01 directors. And Paul Heinik, son of Jack. Paul Heinick's on the board

10:07 of directors. A guy named Jeff Stein who is a major music video award

10:13 winning director. He worked with Springsteen, he worked with the Cars, he

10:16 worked with Tom Petty. He's one of my best friends now, Jeff Stein.

10:20 Uh, He's on our board. Sean West. Sean West is Nick

10:24 Pops and Richard Dolan's agent. He's the agent to the UFO star, So

10:28 Sean West is on our board. A guy named Sean Jablonski is on our

10:33 board. He produced the TV series Project blue Book, which I don't know

10:37 if you actually it's not even out yet, came out, came and went

10:43 already no, no, no no, I said. So when I made

10:48 the first announcement that I was I was going to be a part of this

10:52 HDA, I said, one of the things I wanted to campaign for was

10:56 a re u Yeah, yeah, of that show. Right, I agree

11:01 with you, Yeah, I agree because I think they had something. They

11:05 had lightning in a bottle. It just it wasn't There was a crack in

11:11 the bottle and it got away from them. The casting was so on point,

11:16 the mystery was great, and it wasn't over the top. I didn't

11:22 think it was too over the top. Some people did that said it was

11:26 well, well all right, Paul so Paul Heinik, Jay Allen Heineck's son.

11:31 Paul Heinik, was an advisor to Project blue Book, the TV show.

11:35 As we know, Jay Allen Heinek, his father was the science officer

11:39 for the real Project blue Book, and Jay Allen Heinich was Spielberg's advisor on

11:45 Close Encounters the movie, so Paul Heinik was Paul Heinik was literally part of

11:50 that show. So anyway, Sean Jablonski, Exec producer of Project blue Book,

11:56 Serena who you're going to have on Monday. She's on our board of

11:58 directors. And we have twenty people. Carolyn Corey is on. We just

12:03 added Nick Pope. I just invited Nick Pope the other day. He's on

12:05 our boarder. So we have a remarkable board of directors. Yeah, and

12:11 my goal is to have every single one of them, of course on the

12:13 show to well, that's part of it. That's part of it. You

12:18 know, we're HDA is a networking group primarily all right, so then separate

12:28 and well, in addition to our board, we've been working on what we

12:31 call founding members. Now, Tyler, I just my daughter just called me

12:35 to tell me. She wanted me to tell you. She's putting you up

12:37 on our website over this weekend. So you are a member, but over

12:43 the weekend you'll be on the website. So we have about close to one

12:48 hundred members of HDA. Maybe a dozen are international, which is really really

12:54 cool. We have someone in Scotland England, two people in Canada, Fiji,

13:01 Italy and other places. I'm forgetting. So we have about one hundred

13:07 people at the present. We're closing in on one hundred on November two,

13:13 which is just two months. Two months ago, I and Stephen was ill.

13:18 He had COVID. He just was recovering. But I launched the Hollywood

13:22 Disclosure Alliance in Hollywood November two at a very famous restaurant called Mussou and Frank,

13:28 which I'm going tonight. I represent them. They're the most famous restaurant

13:31 in Los Angeles. In fact, I'm having dinner tonight with Chrissy Newton.

13:35 Do you know who Christy Newton is? Of course I know who Christy Newton

13:39 is. In yeah, word, I'm having dinner with I'm having dinner with

13:43 her in four hours. I have to go take a shower, so anywhere.

13:48 Yeah, I'm having a couple of disclosure set alone. I will absolutely

13:52 will. So we launched there. We had thirty five people in the room

13:58 and we had twenty five people on zoom, and on zoom it was Stephen

14:03 because he had he was ill. But Stephen was was on there, Nick

14:07 Pope, Richard Dolan, Chuck Chuck Zakowski, Katie Page, Doctor Link,

14:16 Katai, sev Talk, Dolan and his wife Tracy, both of them,

14:22 and I'm forgetting other people, but it was remarkable, Tyler. We had

14:26 We had about fifty to sixty people at our launch event. So from the

14:31 day Stephen and I thought of it to the day we launched was June to

14:37 July Augustember five months. Five months from the idea to launching, five months

14:43 exactly almost to the day. And today we're up to about one hundred people.

14:48 If everyone anyone wants to read about it, go to Hollywood Disclosure Alliance

14:54 dot org dot org, yeah, which is now a permanent link in the

14:58 dis scription for all the podcasts and uh YouTube videos. So it's about it's

15:05 the sixth or seventh one down. It's just an order of that's the way

15:11 it is. But it is there, uh and you can read more.

15:16 You can see all the members from the hall. I like how the website

15:20 is set up so you can see the people from the Hollywood side and then

15:26 like you so so that you separated them basically like that was that was that

15:30 was Steven's idea. That was who's from the U A P Side? Who's

15:35 the board of directors, who's the found I like how that was all split

15:37 up and kind of labeled. It's just this is literally literally just the beginning.

15:46 There's so much that can be done with it, especially as you know,

15:52 the Great Mister Basket would say, with disclosure being imminent, there's going

15:58 to be a hard need for the these kind of programs Hollywood Disclosure Alliance other

16:04 civilian groups to get together and and and because the world is going to go

16:11 on after disclosure. We hope, I hope, I hope, I hope,

16:15 I hope we get another rotation at least after that. But so the

16:21 goal is the next the day after disclosure, we're all gonna have to go

16:23 back to work. That means making movies too, and that means making TV

16:29 shows, and that means life going on, and we're gonna have to tell

16:33 more real stories. And there's just gonna be so much opportunity. And I

16:36 think this group is going to pave way for something that's truly amazing. That's

16:41 very that's very sweet of you. So the mission statement for Hollywood Disclosure Alliance

16:45 is to bring together Hollywood storytellers. Now, Hollywood storytellers are producers, writers,

16:53 directors, performers. Okay, that's one side of the fence, Hollywood.

16:59 We call them stif retailers with real life UAP and ET researchers, activists

17:07 and experiencers. So again, Stephen knows almost all of those people and has

17:18 introduced me to I mean, Kathy Martin. Kathleen Marden is one of my

17:22 best friends. She's Betty and Barney hills niece. She's one of my best

17:25 friends. Nick Pope I had dinner two weeks ago at Mussou and Frank.

17:27 Nick Pope is one of my best friends. Stephen Bassett is one of my

17:32 best friends. Tracy Dolan, Richard's wife, texts me all the time and

17:36 we tell them each other how much we love each other. So Richard and

17:40 Tracy are becoming good friends. For me personally, It's been a remarkable situation,

17:45 given that my book only came out in March. It's not even a

17:49 year, Tyler, not even a year. Less than a year. I

17:52 not only befriended major, major people, but I have them on my alliance

17:59 and now I'm blessed that they're they're in my they're in my personal life.

18:03 Yeah, and they've been enriching my life. So anyway, so we're marrying

18:07 Hollywood storytellers together with real life researchers and experiencers so that, like you just

18:14 said, they can share uh information and stories and real life experiences with each

18:21 other back and forth to create let's call it the next era of of of

18:26 Hollywood films, TV shows, documentaries, and also I'm putting I'm adding in

18:33 books because we have we have a number of authors as well. So we

18:37 are bringing together two disparate groups. I call it chocolate and peanut butter.

18:41 You know, chocolate and peanut butter, great candy, right, they're they're

18:47 they're wonderfully separate, but they work well. But they work well together.

18:52 That's what HDA is. Stephen was peanut butter. I'm the chocolate. We

18:56 melded, we joined forces, and we've given birth. I call you know,

19:00 Steven and I are like the fathers of HDA. We gave birth to

19:03 it together. I've said this to both of you, and I think I

19:07 said this in both in every single interview I've had with Stephen, which is

19:12 many many. He's become a very good friend, just like you know yourself.

19:18 I like to think, you know, I like to think that every

19:22 guest that comes on and you know, strike up a relationship with long term.

19:32 But it's not just single serving things. And what I what I saw

19:36 about you last time was that you were you had this drive in you that

19:41 was ready to come out right because you it was almost again your your book

19:47 came out in March, and it was like you were just kind of entering

19:49 this world you'd always really want. You'd always been a part of it somewhat

19:53 some way, but you were just kind of put both feet in with the

19:57 book. And now now you're swimming. Now you're swimming, buddy. So

20:03 I'm so glad to see that things have have really risen for you. And

20:07 and and what I say is, you know, we're gonna I'm the next

20:11 generation of you all you have you follow you follow uphologists, pologists. We're

20:18 gonna pick up the baton wherever it's left from you, guys, sure and

20:26 keep it moving forward hopefully. Yeah. Absolutely. And that's why I look

20:32 for mentorship by people like yourself, uh, Steven, uh, anyone you,

20:37 basically anyone you named today, I would look those are the people that

20:41 I would look for mentorship, guidance. If I you know, Kathleen Oh

20:48 my god. She What a wonderful woman she is. You could literally just

20:52 call her and talk for twenty two days in the street. Hang up,

20:57 She's terrific. Yeah, she's yeah, yeah. So what is so with

21:03 everything that's going on? Whistle blowers are coming out? Of course, since

21:08 you've been on, David Grush has really really kicked the hornet's nest, right,

21:15 Sure, he's about to drop. What I hear is an op ed

21:22 and it was delayed till probably right around now is when when people will be

21:30 listening to it, So it'll probably be out right around now. Unfortunately we

21:36 can't go into the future to talk about it. But overall, what are

21:40 your thoughts on on the data Grush story, where it's come, and where

21:44 you think it's going in terms of other UFO whistleblowers, and how that relates

21:51 to how David may have been treated, et cetera in the media and so

21:56 on and so forth. Well, let's take a step back a little bit.

22:00 So in twenty seventeen, as everyone knows, the end of twenty seventeen,

22:03 the New York Times ran a front page story by leslie Kin and Ralph

22:07 Blumenthal, and this is funny. Tyler I wrote to Ralph Blumenthal on Monday

22:12 this week, I invited him into the AHDA. He wrote back right away,

22:17 he said, Dan, good luck with your group. I'm honored to

22:21 be asked, but since I'm a journalist, I have to say neutral,

22:22 so I can't join you. But that's pretty cool. Ralph Bluminthal wrote back

22:26 to me in ten minutes from the New York Times. That was pretty good

22:30 man. And you know he's being serious. Oh yeah, he just he's

22:33 being dead serious. And I actually, you know what, I respect the

22:37 fact that he wrote back that quickly. You know, he's not just bsing

22:41 you, right. It wasn't like a month later. I was Stephen Bassatt

22:45 even said, Dan, he's not going to write back. I said,

22:48 you know what, what do we have to lose? So but anyway,

22:52 the modern you, the modern ufology era was kickstarted by Leslie Kan, Ralph

22:57 Blumenthal, and Helene Cooper in December twenty seventeen front page article New York Times

23:03 that our military in our government is still investigating uapiece. Nobody really that was

23:10 not common knowledge. So that oh that talk about hornets nest that was step

23:15 number one. Then during Trump's era, he signed in the COVID bill.

23:21 Part of the COVID Bill was too for the government to issue a report.

23:26 This was through Marco Rubio about the state the status of UAPs, and it

23:30 was I think it was nine pages, and it was very, very sketchy

23:34 and skeletal, didn't have a lot of meat on the bones. Then we

23:37 jump to really to Grush and Fravor and Graves, the three of them in

23:45 July last year from the Congress, And boy, I mean, Grush is

23:48 telling the world that we have non human pilots, we have dead non human

23:56 pilots. And Fraver is telling the world that there are other worldly craft in

24:02 our skies that defy human physics. Think about that defy human physics? So

24:11 why why was that not the biggest story in the world the next day?

24:15 And it wasn't. It was not. I live in La I read the

24:19 La Times every day. The next day, on page twenty six of the

24:25 La Times, page twenty six, oh, this guy named David Grush.

24:29 He says, yeah, there's non human aliens and we have of world craft

24:33 blah blah blah blah, page twenties and I'm like, man, we're missing

24:37 a lot, We're missing the boat. The La Times is a big paper

24:40 and they're really really missing the boat. So that's what happened last summer.

24:44 And then that leads us to actually, are you aware of that? Today?

24:48 There's a hearing is top secret hearing today in Congress, so Steve and

24:52 Steve Bassett is talking about it for He's going to send me a wrap up

24:56 about this on Monday. Yeah, if you could maybe get in touch with

25:00 me after that, he's going to send me a write up about it.

25:07 The inspector general of one of the spy agencies is meeting with members of Congress

25:11 top top secret, classified closed door session to sort of update update them.

25:18 Now we know our buddy Timbershett is right on top of this man. He

25:21 is such an ally. He and Steven have become friends. I don't know

25:23 if you knew that, but I mean out friends if yeah, I mean

25:27 Tim with Timberchett. Yeah, Tim's a good friend of mine. That's great.

25:33 I should have him on my show. That's a good idea if you

25:37 want to, I mean, yeah, yeah, Well, I just I

25:41 just launched my podcast last night. I had my first podcast last night.

25:45 Well you're booked for the year, you said, And I am pretty booked,

25:49 but I would listen, I'd shove in timber Shatt, of course,

25:52 I know. I say, if we would do we could do it.

25:56 You'd have to shove him in for this year because you know he so he's

26:02 going to be in the film that I'm doing as well. So I've been

26:04 discussing it with his assistant Rachel about coordinating it all, and she's been like

26:12 her and Tim they are they've got this thing on lock. They got him

26:18 on interviews almost every night, like he's just he just says yes, and

26:22 he's like super open. How do you Does that make you feel good?

26:29 Does it make you smile? Does he a congress person? Like? Just

26:33 being so open and inviting and willing to have the conversation, not afraid of

26:40 it. I think he's something of a hero. It goes back to you

26:45 know, Harry Reid. Harry Reid was Harry Reid was the first congressional hero

26:52 in this area. See yeh. Secretly he wrote the bill with John McCain.

26:56 I think it was what is it, twenty two million dollars they get

27:00 for Yeah, So he went to Daniel. He went to Daniel anyway and

27:04 other and I think McCain was part of that too. Yeah, John.

27:08 So they went there and they said, we need money off the books,

27:14 right off the books, kind of money to study study this, to continue

27:19 this study. And that's when all SAP and well the bid went out for

27:26 twenty two million dollars. Bigelow ends up getting it, you know, retrofits

27:32 the facility, et cetera. All SAPs created that ends up turning into a

27:37 New York Times article rights about a'ts it And yeah, it's been like a

27:42 it's like it's been like Chinese water torture. It's trip trip trip. But

27:48 it's now it's almost the defaucet is almost getting turned on. That's such a

27:52 good We are getting very very close. But today as we speak, I

27:56 think or probably it's over now. I could text st Even and ask him,

27:59 but it's six o'clock in Washington. It probably it's over. But there

28:03 was a top secret hearing today which is January twelfth from the IG. So

28:10 Steve Steven's going to tell me. He's going to tell me what he finds

28:12 out about that. So to answer your question, Grush is a hero.

28:18 Harry Reid is a hero, Timbersched is a hero. Even Marco Rubio.

28:22 I don't agree with his politics, but he's very adamant that UFOs are real

28:26 and they need to be studied. Nancy Mace was in that congressional hearing.

28:33 I don't believe in her politics, but she was fascinated by grush about non

28:37 human dead non human pilots that have been recovered. This is starting to become

28:42 starting to become a real bipartisan issue, because this exceeds not only politics,

28:49 this exceeds mankind. If these are beings from another planet or another dimension,

28:56 or if these are us from the future, which is quite possible, or

29:00 these are us from there's a whole lot of proof that they're They're hiding under

29:06 the seas. They have bases all over the world in our oceans. Maybe

29:10 they were here on Earth and they preceded us there. We don't know yet.

29:12 We don't know yet. But this is the biggest story ever. I

29:18 just watched the three part last night. I watched the three part two B

29:21 series. Yeah, I was asking before the show. I just watched that

29:26 last night. I watched all three and George George Knapp, George Nappy goes,

29:32 you know what, this is the biggest story in the history of mankind.

29:36 And that's true. What could be bigger than this? But Dan,

29:40 I don't even think this is not This is the biggest story period ever ever,

29:47 nothing, nothing bigger. It transcends mankind because we don't even know if

29:55 two species have ever, you know, engaged before, right, we don't.

30:00 We don't really know that, So this could or we don't know.

30:03 We just don't know the grand the grand scheme of things and and what this

30:10 might represent on a cosmic scale. So not only is this the biggest story

30:15 of just period, but it's but it fundamentally, fundamentally will change every single

30:26 person on this earth. It'll change everything for it. I just I can't

30:33 see it not affecting everybody's life. I don't think one person would it would

30:38 would? Uh what what now? I want to ask you? And I

30:44 asked Steve last time, disclosure when it happens, it's because it's not about

30:49 a it's not about if. It's about when. At this point, Uh,

30:55 you cannot put the mayo back in the packet. It's as as far

30:59 as I'm concerned, it's been torn open at this point and people are walking

31:06 walking on sidewalk. Put it that way day after disclosure. I mean,

31:11 do you see chaos Because a lot of people after the gutting of the Disclosure

31:18 Act, I mean, yeah, the Disclosure Act of twenty twenty three,

31:22 what was called the gutting of that disclosure Act, they started talking about something

31:26 called a chaotic disclosure or just you know, a chaos with disclosure. Do

31:34 you first see that being an issue? Okay, So in theory, In

31:41 theory, disclosure is the following the President of the United States, whoever that

31:47 may be, either Biden or Orange Jesus God forbid, it's orange cheese,

31:53 That's what I call him. That can stomach that guy or whoever if it's

31:59 Hey or whoever is the next president, but or the current president. They

32:04 go on TV and they say, ladies and gentlemen, I have something very

32:07 big to tell you. Extraterrestrial life exists. We've been aware of this fact

32:15 for many, many years. We have some contacts with some of their leaders.

32:21 We didn't tell you up until now due to national security reasons, but

32:25 that we felt the time has come for us to disclose this information to you.

32:30 We'll give you more updates as we move forward. But extraterrestrial life is

32:35 real, and they've been visiting Earth for a long time. Okay, then

32:37 the president turns and walks away. Okay, that's disclosure day. That's D

32:42 Day number two. D Day number one was June sixth, nineteen forty four,

32:45 and Normandy, that'll be D Day number two, Disclosure Day two.

32:50 If it's this year, an next year, or a near future, it

32:52 depends if it happens that way. Now, if it's Biden, the Republicans

32:58 will say, oh, that's absolutely bs. He's full of shit. There's

33:01 just no such thing. Biden's an old man. He doesn't know what he's

33:04 talking about. And if they literally say that, he's literal he's lost.

33:12 Look, he's lost his money. The man's eighty two years old. He's

33:15 lost his money. And if it's Trump. If it's Trump, a lot

33:17 of Democrats will say, well, there's Orange Jesus. You know what does

33:21 he know? He's a moron because he's the man's the most illiterate human that

33:25 ever lived, not just the President, the most illiterate more on the history

33:30 of mankind. So it's going to be all kinds of political backlash. So

33:35 that's the first part of it. If we hear that ets are real,

33:40 man, it rewrites human history. All the history books are have to be

33:45 rewritten. And then, of course there's a little thing called religion. Well,

33:50 oh, my god, if they say yeah, if they if they

33:52 say the Ets said yeah. By the way, you know, Jesus was

33:54 one of us. Okay, how many Catholics heads are going to explode what

33:59 Jesus was an alien? Or the Jews, as Moses had all kinds of

34:04 contacts with UFOs and Ets. It's in the Bibles and the Jewish Bible that

34:08 they parted the Red Sea for Moses. There was a craft. It's the

34:14 first page in my book. There was a craft in the skies. In

34:17 the Book of Exodus, it says a pillar of light followed the Israelites through

34:22 the desert so that they had light by which to travel. It's in the

34:27 Bibles and the Hebrew Bible. A pillar of light is not the moon of

34:30 the sun. A pillar of light is a craft. Yes, and it

34:35 parted the Red Sea. It gave Moses the Ten Commandments. When Moses came

34:38 down Mount Sina, he was glowing. He spoke to the burning bush that

34:44 was the Ufo. So it's it's in the Bible. It's in the Bible.

34:49 They've been here for a very long time, so so many things are

34:52 going to change after disclosure officially happens. Well, you know, I'm actually

34:57 really glad that you just brought all that up because it reminded me of some

35:01 questions of some stuff that's been happening now. I actually what's funny is you

35:08 brought that up that the whole what if Jesus was an alien? Me and

35:14 Teresa Tindell, we did a two hour show and part one is out right

35:21 now, and we get into that. That's literally what the whole thing is

35:25 about, is what if God's you know, or it's basically that. I

35:31 call it the Jacques Valet hypothesis because what if the name has just changed throughout

35:37 the years from fairies, demons, gods to now extraterrestrialslins, gremlins, leprechauns,

35:45 fairies, The name just just changed throughout It depends on your culture,

35:52 religion, time era, the time era exactly right, right, how about

35:58 leprechauns. Lepreuns could have been little aliens? Right? Absolutely. It makes

36:01 a part of gold right, and it ties back in with the Atnaki thing,

36:06 with this whole with the gold with the gold with it seems. And

36:12 now, I don't know, have you ever heard about planet X, Yes,

36:20 and like Niberu and and supposedly where this supreme race lives and they come

36:25 every what thirty three thousand years and then when the Mayan and when the Mayan

36:30 calendar ended, Niberu was supposed to have come back on that that that day

36:36 or something that didn't happen, something that degree. Yeah, yeah, and

36:42 and and listen, I I love I do love all that stuff. You

36:46 know. Of course, not everything is alien, right, not Like I

36:52 don't think every single thing in like ancient you know, culture had to do

36:55 with alien contact. I don't. I just, you know, some of

37:00 the stuff in the Ancient Alien show, like maybe they do go a little

37:02 bit overboard sometimes, but I think a lot of the stuff they do talk

37:07 about is worth challenging because first off, who gave the government and how were

37:16 we a species that doesn't know our own origin story yet we're traversing, we're

37:22 getting ready to leave the planet. We don't even know our own origin story

37:28 definitively, it just it doesn't add up. And who gave the government the

37:35 licensing rights to history and advancement and technology? Well, if that goes well,

37:42 okay, so that goes back. Really, if you know what,

37:45 if there's one person to blame, Tyler, I'm going to blame one person,

37:51 President Harry Truman. Oh, we couldn't because he blew it. On

37:55 day one, Roswell crash happened. An alien craft was recovered dead, alien

38:02 bodies were recovered at Roswell. That's a statement of fact. People on their

38:07 deathbeds from Roswell, on their deathbeds, swore to their families that was all

38:12 true. So the press officer released the press release the day that they retrieved

38:19 the craft. That press release ran all over the world. Army reached empties

38:24 flying disc and then Truman and his people in Washington. Imagine Truman, his

38:30 head must have exploded. This is only two years after the end of World

38:34 War Two. His head, absolutely, he must have said, who the

38:37 f Who the f gave permission for these bozos and Roswell to tell the world

38:45 that there's extraterrestrials. Who the hell gave them permission? So that next day

38:50 Jesse Marcel had to do a press conference with sticks and twigs and scotch tape

38:54 and aluminum foil. My favorite thing ever is when Steven says in the documentary

39:04 series on Netflix that Roger Ramy made just Jesse Marceau unwrap his fish and use

39:12 the same foil in the picture. That's pretty much. Yeah, it was.

39:15 It was Renel, It was Reynolds twigs, twigs and twine like it

39:21 was probably like just a kite like his son's like kite, you know,

39:24 did to play with with with your kids. And you can see, honestly,

39:29 you can see in the face if you look deep, deeply suicidal,

39:35 he's like, what is what are you trying to have me do? Right

39:37 now? Like you can see it. He had to eat such ship that

39:43 day. Man, Oh my god, he had to eat ship. He

39:45 was the fall guy all because of Truman and his people. Now, if

39:50 Truman had called Roswell and said, really you have a craft, you have

39:53 aliens. That's fantastic, right, I want all that material in Washington where

40:00 going to do a press announcement to the world that extra terrestrials are real.

40:05 This is the greatest thing ever. He could have then gone on TV they

40:08 had TV in forty seven with a craft with some dead alien bodies, and

40:13 he could have said, look, this happened. This is a remarkable event

40:16 in the history of humankind. And he could have on day one. Man,

40:21 on day one, it would have been out in the open, and

40:23 the last eighty years would have would have been different. He could have corrected

40:30 it right off the bat. So then Eisenhower came and then Kennedy. Now

40:34 I just saw something. It was on twob there's a theory that Kennedy was

40:37 killed because he wanted to release the UFO files. Well, I'm a big

40:42 Kennedy assassination student. I've been reading about that for forty years. Okay,

40:49 that that makes a lot of sense. Man, If JFK wanted to release

40:52 the UFO files, he did a memo a few days before he was assassinated,

40:58 he said, let's release the files. He wanted that to happen.

41:02 So Truman blew it on day one, and then every president afterwards inherited the

41:09 secrecy and the military being in charge of all this. In Area fifty one,

41:16 there's a story I heard. I don't know if it's true that Eisenhower,

41:20 Eisenhower as president, tried to go to Area fifty one and they said,

41:24 sir, you're not allowed here. We can't let you win. Eisenhower

41:29 the president, the man who won World War two five star jo, you're

41:32 not allowed here. They would not allow Eisenhower into Area fifty one. Well,

41:37 that story says a lot, right, if true, because I think

41:42 I'm pretty sure Harry Reid's gone there, or Harry Reid went there multiple times.

41:46 Well that's more recently, but that was more recent. Eisenhower was the

41:51 early early fifties. So yeah, right, And actually, you know what,

41:54 it would make more sense that they would let Read in now after because

42:00 after Lazaar came out, you know that that. I mean, I can't

42:05 imagine that that there's too much exotic material at Area fifty one. Toy,

42:08 all right, So Tyler, they let's say Harry Reid went. I'm sure

42:12 he did. They probably created the Harry Reid customized tour. Okay, so

42:16 here here's this, and here's this. Don't look don't look in that hangar,

42:21 Harry, you know you forget about that one, don't They don't look

42:22 there. They created they crafted a tour for him to look at cool stuff

42:28 and probably the hardcore, top secret stuff they kept away from him. They're

42:30 not going to show it to Harry Reid. They didn't show it to Eisenhower.

42:35 But you know, as as I, so you make a very very

42:38 really kind of like I want to now do like a what if on this,

42:46 because what if? What kind of world are we living in today?

42:52 If Truman had the gall in the in the in the tenacity, he have

43:00 united the world in one day, in one day, he could have united

43:06 the world. He chose if Roswell is real, what you're saying is he

43:12 chose secrecy, greed, weapons development, and secrecy. Again, I'm gonna

43:20 double up on that one over uniting the human race. Well, okay,

43:27 this is one world. So this is in Truman's defense. Two things in

43:31 Truman's defense. One is Roswell happened in forty seven. Okay, Truman became

43:37 president in forty five. In thirty eight, we all know the famous horse

43:42 in Wells War of the World's broadcast from from New York. He said martians,

43:47 Martians are killing people in New Jersey. Thousands of people that aired coast

43:52 to coast. I always thought that was an East coast radio broadcast that aired

43:58 across the country. Across the country. So apparently, from what I've read,

44:01 thousands of people were panicking, a few people had heart attacks, people

44:07 were going to the sheriff and saying what do we do? People were going

44:09 to churches and praying. That was like, But it also wasn't the mass

44:15 chaos that some some ufologists making out to me. It wasn't as big as

44:22 it may have appeared. But Tyler even, let's say five thousand people panics.

44:25 That's the people. Yeah, that's tell a lot of people. Okay.

44:29 So that was thirty eight. That was thirty eight. That was nine

44:32 years before the Roswell quest. So that's part one. There was a panic,

44:37 that's true, because there's all kinds of headlines and newspapers about panic.

44:42 Number two is and probably even bigger was the Manhattan Project. Manhattan Project was

44:46 the top secret, the biggest secret on planet Earth for years and years,

44:52 you know, if you see the Oppenheimer movie, which is wonderful, of

44:54 course, but Manhattan Project and the bomb development was the biggest sea on the

45:00 planet Earth. So that was and they launched those two bombs in forty five.

45:06 So two years later, Truman, who launched the bombs, it's only

45:09 two years after Manhattan Project, and it's only nine years after the war.

45:14 The world's panic. To his credit, he probably said, you know,

45:17 what. This is too big, This information is too huge. I don't

45:23 want to scare anybody. I don't want to panic anybody. We kept the

45:28 Manhattan Project's secret until we could no longer keep it secret. Let's do the

45:32 same with the UFOs and the et So that's to his credit. But had

45:37 he been he could have been the hero of American history. He could have

45:42 said, look, this is as amazing to me. I didn't know.

45:45 I didn't know they were extraterrestraalts. I had no idea. I'm the president

45:50 here they are. These are dead. We have one that's still alive.

45:52 Apparently there was one that lived till nineteen fifty two. His name was eb

45:57 Ebe actually extraterrestrial extra biological entity eb and they called them the ebans, like

46:07 and this is ebens right, talked about this right right, exactly, Truman.

46:15 Truman day one could have and you know what, people would have been

46:19 blown away. People would like, my mother would have been thirteen, then

46:23 she would have been blown away. But now it's what eight eighty years later

46:28 it would be. It would be commonplace. Your father wouldn't have been blown

46:31 away. He would have just looked at it and been like, yeah,

46:36 and been bored. Yeah, well, I think. Well, according to

46:39 my mother, in nineteen fifty one, they showed my father something man and

46:44 it blew his mind. Now that was only four years after Roswell. My

46:47 gut theory is they showed my dad some et technology and said, Jack,

46:52 you can never tell anyone, but here's a you know, here's the here's

46:57 the pilot section of a UFO from Roswell. And my dad came home and

47:00 my mother said he was like practically crying that night, and she said he

47:05 was never the same after that. So, yeah, yeah, you told

47:07 me. But so again it goes to Harry Truman. Harry Truman made a

47:14 very very bad decision on that day one and Roswell already they already announced the

47:22 disc and that ran all over the world. They had to rescind to.

47:27 And I'm a publicist, I've issued probably ten thousand press releases. If I

47:31 announced Coca Cola buys pepsi, Okay, here's in my world, Coca Cola

47:37 buys pepsi. If I put that out, that would run all over the

47:42 world, right, and then President Biden would call me to who the hell

47:46 are you to say that? That should have been my decision, not yours.

47:51 Who are you? I want you to read? I would have had

47:53 to go to all those people and say, oops, I'm really sorry,

47:57 man, I made a really popsie. I made a big mistake. Really,

48:02 it didn't mean to do well. There wasn't even coke and pepsi.

48:06 It was it was bigger. This is bigger. This is bigger than coke

48:09 buying pepsi. This is an extraterrestrial life on planet Earth. So Truman blew

48:15 it on day one, and that's all I can But But and here's my

48:19 thing is is as much as much as I understand where the world was at

48:25 in those days, I think, I really truly think that if maybe not

48:37 now you've got in my head now you got that if Truman had just just

48:44 because it was a couple of years after World War Two had ended, right

48:47 to the world was settling down and it was not never going to go to

48:55 World War again. You know it as we know now, you know,

49:00 there was going to be like a real tense time. But that could have

49:07 might maybe that could have been avoided if Truman had come out and said,

49:14 listen, something just crashed here. We don't know. This is just like

49:20 you said, just like you, just like you did it. This is

49:23 it. We're just in the dark, as you more, as it develops,

49:29 we're going to talk to other nations see if they've ever come across anything

49:34 like it before. Then maybe we start working with the Russians because we know

49:38 that stuff's happened there right, either maybe before or since, So who knows

49:46 where this would have led and where we would be today geopolitically it had he

49:53 done what I consider the right thing, because Eisenhoward got there, it seems

50:02 that the reins it was uncontrollable. You can tell by his statements on his

50:09 way out that he had lost control at that point, absolutely right, and

50:15 he was warning with a dire, dire warning. And then JFK. JFK

50:20 stepped into the military industrial complex, was in charge of America, not the

50:23 president a couple of things, so basically, yeah, he should did so

50:30 if we go back to Truman's era, had the orson Wells broadcast not ever

50:36 happened, perhaps Truman would have done disclosure on day one, and or if

50:43 there had been no World War two at all and Roswell happened, I don't

50:49 think Truman would have thought to cover that up. The world was recovering from

50:53 the biggest shock in history. World War two was the worst thing that ever

50:58 happened in America in world history to this day and hopefully will never happen again.

51:02 But those are by far the worst thing. Had had that war not

51:07 happened, or had it been much much, much smaller with no atom bombs

51:10 and we defeated Nazi Germany, maybe in a year or a year and a

51:14 half instead of five, maybe Truman would have said, you know, this

51:17 is pretty interesting. There's life on other planets. That's kind of cool.

51:22 What what what? What? What did they? What did Truman have to

51:24 lose on day one by being the disclosure president and announcing it day one?

51:30 So I really think it's the war of the world with the panic and the

51:35 top secret of the atomic bombs in Manhattan Project, and the world was just

51:40 weary and tired. And if he said, look, there's aliens and we

51:45 don't know where they're from, and we don't we can't. They're they're more

51:50 powerful than us. He wanted to protect mankind with that from that knowledge.

51:54 But again he could have he could have done it on day one. He

51:58 could have been the bigger man and you're right, Tyler. The world today

52:02 would be much more open. Things would be much more open. Certainly all

52:07 the sightings. People would say, oh, look to see that craft.

52:09 Yeah, I think that craft is from Pluto. No, no, no,

52:13 that craft is from Uranus, that craft is from Neptune. You know,

52:17 we know, we'd know more about who they are and what they want,

52:21 and maybe they would have revealed themselves right now. I think we'd be

52:25 living in an entirely different world. I agree on is where think about the

52:34 advancement of technology. Right would we would have left fossil fuels along? I

52:40 would say bye, By nineteen fifty nineteen fifty five, we would have been

52:49 off fossil fuels, maybe turned to a hybrid. But by now we'd be

52:54 fully immersed in anti ravitics or or whatever kind of propulsion these craft are using

53:02 to get here, whether it's through through the Solar System, or through dimensions

53:09 or or yeah, or bending yeah, or or or time travel. I

53:19 And it's got me really upset now because imagine how much of all of this

53:27 stuff that we could have avoided. Well, like, what's yea, what

53:31 you can get mad about that? Though? That's a maybe maybe we can

53:36 pitch one of these Hollywood directors this story what if Truman instead show? Because

53:44 alternative history is a huge genre. Like right now on Apple TV they have

53:50 that show, Uh for All Mankind, which is absolutely incredible. Could not

53:58 recommend it enough out TV in their sci fi game lately, I mean their

54:04 sci fi game since Inception has been on point. I can't give it to

54:09 Apple TV enough. I actually have a contact on Apple TV, so I

54:15 did want to reach out to them. Well, you know what, you

54:17 know what, Tyler, you just hit on such a I mean, if

54:21 this ever happens, you and I have to take credit. You imagine Truman

54:25 movie about Truman. Roswell happens, They call Truman, he says, get

54:30 those materials. No, no, here's better. Here's better. Truman gets

54:34 on a plane with his staff and flies to Roswell. Goes to Roswell.

54:38 No, no, no, goes to Roswell. Yeah. He goes to

54:40 Roswell and they have the ship and the bodies in the president United States and

54:45 they do a press conference from Roswell, from from Roswell, and Truman says,

54:51 people of the Earth, we have something extraordinary to tell you. This

54:54 just happened yesterday. Look what we have. There's life and other planets.

55:00 We're not sure where they're from. We're going to keep you posted. And

55:02 then you know, the camera zooms in on the aliens and the craft,

55:07 and then the last eighty years of human history on every country is different.

55:12 That's an incredible good storyline for a for a pitch, you know, I

55:15 have I know some producers. I could pitch that too. I'm telling you,

55:20 I think we just I think we just came up with a pretty amazing

55:23 uh what if alternative history story? So, uh, don't worry, audience,

55:30 We're going to be pitching that one around. You might see that on

55:34 Apple TV pretty soon. Jj jj Abrams secretary returns my emails. I could

55:40 I could pitch Yeah, I know I could do. Let's do it,

55:45 let's get it going. But no, no, no, but I'm actually

55:51 serious, like that would be an amazing it would be amazing. As soon

55:54 as soon as we both said it, I saw it in my head.

55:57 Yeah. I was taking it too, because I'm watching for all Man Guide

56:02 right now and I'm like super into alternative history and other series. What was

56:08 that one that was on Amazon Prime? It was like The The Man of

56:15 the High Castle. But it was about if what if the Axis powers had

56:20 had prevailed one Yeah, alternative history, right history, that's what that's what

56:24 this would be. But this would have been you know, you could imagine

56:29 every every president after Truman could have given updates. Yeah. You know,

56:34 we just recovered a craft from Saturn from Saturn. Yeah, and and we're

56:38 talking to the extraterrestrials there and they told us that they can provide some new

56:45 some new energy to us, and we'll keep you posted. Right. What

56:47 happened was it was militarized on day one the military and you know Truman's Majestic

56:52 twelve as all those twelve assholes except James forrestall except Forrestall who want to to

57:00 tell the world, And they pushed him out of a mental hospital and they

57:02 killed him. They murdered him. Everyone else, im justic We can't tell

57:08 anybody. So they militarized the most remarkable scientific the chief discovery in the history

57:15 of the world was military militarized on day two, on day two by Tiuman

57:21 and his people. And that never got unwound. It just got deeper and

57:24 deeper and deeper into the black hole. And it's funny because you can see

57:29 the humanity in the original report, like so the originals report, right,

57:36 So it happens, and you got these guys who are right there at the

57:45 center of it, Jesse Marcel right, Roger Raby. They're in the thick

57:51 of it, all right. They were the group that dropped the bombs on

57:54 Japan. They were the same group people that we entrusted to end the World

58:01 War. They were our top military worker bees, let's call it. They

58:07 were the top guys in the country, the only atomic and squadron in the

58:14 world, and they and they had and they got the craft and the one

58:20 hundred that they announced it one hundred percent credible people, absolutely not bullshitters.

58:25 Why on earth would they have announced what they announced if that was bullshit?

58:30 Not in a million years. These guys were dead serious people. And that's

58:35 the thing is you saw how dead serious they were about getting this out to

58:43 the public because they were like this, you know, this changes everything,

58:47 This is important. This is not something that you know, like this is

58:52 above our pay grade. Right, So what do they do. They do

58:57 what they're supposed to do. They put it out and they they well probably

59:01 well probably listen, they probably should have called the White House and said,

59:06 mister President, we have some remarkable news. We are planning to listen.

59:13 I'm a publicist. I would never put out a press release unless my client

59:15 approved it. Right, Well, Truman was the head of the military.

59:20 They should, they should, they should have cleared it with Truman. He

59:23 would have screamed and cursed and made up new curse words at them on the

59:25 phone. Well, yeah, he probably did, but I think he did

59:29 it the next day because the next day was when the story ran all over

59:32 the world. Right, so he had to say, you stupid idiots,

59:37 I don't care how you do it. You're going to retract that story.

59:39 I don't care how you do it. It have to make Yeah, because

59:44 now now Truman's in a situation where he has to underplay that these are the

59:50 same people that ended the you know that that that were the guarding the highest

59:57 of high clear weapon systems that we had, Like people couldn't know that those

1:00:06 are the same people that were misidentifying UFOs for weather balloons. And that's why

1:00:12 the story didn't really get popular, Like, the story didn't really break into

1:00:15 the seventies. Stanton Freeman brought it back out. I think seventy five.

1:00:22 Yeah, because he's putting into it and saying, wait a second. These

1:00:25 are the guys that this is the only atomic squadron in the in the world.

1:00:32 The crash just so happens to be in the vicinity, so they'd be

1:00:37 the ones to get called down no matter what, No matter what, they're

1:00:42 going to be the ones to respond, right, and then everything else that

1:00:49 happens and succeeds it. It's just there's this connection to nuclear weapons. There's

1:00:54 gonna be of course, that's why. That's why they were in the area,

1:01:00 that's why. Well, there's so many stories. You know, Bob

1:01:00 Sallas, he's on our board of directors. There's so many stories of American

1:01:07 Bob Salas. Yeah, oh my god, he's send me an email,

1:01:13 Send me an email and I'll do it intro. It's two seconds, okay,

1:01:15 thank you. Yeah, he's really he's a really nice man. I

1:01:19 met his wife, Marilyn as well. This story literally gives me chills.

1:01:23 There are stories in America and in Russia that UFOs have hovered over nuclear bases

1:01:30 and turned off the missile so they could not come out of their silos.

1:01:36 And it's their way of saying look you, you know, you a whole

1:01:38 humans, We are more powerful than you. We are wanting to protect Earth

1:01:44 even if you guys aren't wanting to protect Earth. Do not send out any

1:01:49 more nuclear weapons. You're ruining the planet, You're ruining the atmosphere. We

1:01:53 are going to oversee you. And if you're going to do this, we're

1:01:57 just going to shut it off. So you might as well just not even

1:02:00 about it. In my book, Tyler, After They Came, when the

1:02:02 Benevolent Aliens come to Earth, the very, very first thing they do on

1:02:07 day one is they eliminate every nuclear weapon on the Earth. And and the

1:02:13 headline in the New York Times in my book says, no nukes, no

1:02:16 nukes like Giant, no nukes, and there's no more nukes. So yeah,

1:02:21 they they don't want stupid humans to blow ourselves up anymore because we don't

1:02:27 need to. Like it's it's and that's the thing is, you know,

1:02:32 uh, And and I feel you're talking about Oppenheimer. I feel really like

1:02:39 I feel for that guy. I do because it's sometimes like when you're caught

1:02:47 up in something and you know you're trying to you're at the bleeding edge,

1:02:52 right, You're at the bleeding edge of everything, and you're just pushing and

1:02:57 pushing and pushing, and you're about to change the world. And then you

1:03:00 realize and hide Sight starts to become twenty twenty again, right, And this

1:03:07 is when he realizes, I am death destroyer of worlds because now I've given

1:03:17 the human race the ability to do so. Did you ever see them?

1:03:23 I just thought of exactly what you're saying. Did you ever see the movie

1:03:28 The Bridge over the River Quai? No? All right, so you need

1:03:31 to watch that. That's a classic classic movie from the sixties, The Bridge

1:03:37 over the River Kuhi Kwai. In that movie, Alec Guinness is a British

1:03:44 officer who's been captured by the Japanese during World War Two, and he's in

1:03:50 charge of all the Americans and all the British soldiers who have been captured by

1:03:52 the Japanese during World War Two. They're in a prison camp. They are

1:03:59 prisoners, and the Japanese warlord makes them build a bridge over the river Kwai

1:04:05 so that Japan can move armaments more easily across the country of Japan. So

1:04:13 the whole movie, Tyler is they're building this unbelievably beautiful bridge, and they're

1:04:17 designing it, and they're engineering it with the architecture, and they're sweating and

1:04:21 they're getting injured, and they built this magnificent bridge right and at the tail

1:04:27 end and escaped, British officer finds Alecinnis and says, sir, do you

1:04:32 realize what you've done? You're helping the Japanese enemy with this bridge. You're

1:04:36 helping them. And an alcoholist goes, oh my god, you're right.

1:04:41 And at the tail end he falls on a plunger, a dynamite plunger,

1:04:44 and he blows up the bridge. It's the very last thing because he realized

1:04:47 It's like Oppenheimer. He realized after the fact what he had done. He

1:04:53 created something magnificent, but it was for the wrong purpose, right, the

1:04:58 purpose was it wasn't it was for Okay, actually, let me ask you

1:05:05 this. And I guess I'm gonna have to switch back to the other camera

1:05:11 because the other one just died on me. I didn't I forgot to charge

1:05:15 it apparently, Uh say, I'm going to create a marker because I'm gonna

1:05:21 cut that piece out one. I'm just gonna just let the lighting adjust because

1:05:29 it's very brighten here all right, I forget where I was that now.

1:05:40 I just told you the bridge over the river, thank you, thank you.

1:05:44 But yeah, I can only imagine what it what it must feel,

1:05:47 what it must feel like to be that genius and to to revolutionize. But

1:05:57 let me ask you this, do you think do you think the world that

1:06:03 the war would have been able to end without it, without another story of

1:06:12 the Adam bombs. Yeah, I think we kind of need them to like,

1:06:16 because people think that we dropped the bomb and like the war, like

1:06:19 the Japanese just like wave the flag. No, they kept fighting for more

1:06:25 like for for like. I think it was like two more months the war

1:06:30 went on. I think, I think in retrospect because the Japanese people are

1:06:36 very very prideful, and they were they would have died to the last man.

1:06:42 So at the time, I actually always have thought that Truman did the

1:06:45 right thing. It was horrible thing that he did, but I think he

1:06:48 had to because Japan just they just kept coming and coming. They were not

1:06:53 going to stop. No, they weren't. But if any country North Korea,

1:06:57 Russia, US, anybody uses a new against an enemy today, the

1:07:01 retaliation will be instant and equal, equal and then it'll get then two bombs,

1:07:08 two bombs, then three bombs and three bombs. That's why you remember

1:07:11 the remember of the movie is before you were born? Probably do you remember

1:07:13 the movie War Games with Matthew Frederick And it's a computer and the computer is

1:07:18 running the atomic weapons and this is the end. It says, the only

1:07:21 way to win is not to play. Literally, the only way to win

1:07:27 is not to play. So nobody can. As soon as anybody sends out

1:07:30 a new today, it's it's going to be a very very bad period of

1:07:34 time after them. And that's the thing is we cannot we can no longer.

1:07:40 We can't go on living in a world that is teetering on the notion

1:07:49 of mutually assured destruction. That's that's the only thing that's keeping us from killing

1:07:56 each other and destroying the planet is the fact that I don't want to die

1:08:00 when I kill you. That's the only thing that stopul us, not that

1:08:06 a you know it's terrible, and you know not only would be there we

1:08:13 no history anymore? Do you you ended the human race like that? That's

1:08:20 it? Like and boom, you want to be that guy? Like who

1:08:26 wants to be that guy? And and but but then I start thinking about

1:08:30 it, and I'm like, we keep backing wolves into corners, like Vladimir

1:08:36 Putin, right, like Jijin Ping, like Kim Jung un or whatever the

1:08:45 Yeah, I think it's Kim Jung Un. Yeah, I always go to

1:08:47 say his dad's name, Kim Jung Ill. But we're backing these people into

1:08:54 the into these corners, and it's only a matter of time until the next

1:08:58 Hitler comes and decides, you know what, I don't care, I don't

1:09:02 care if I take the whole world with me, I'm gonna I'm gonna do

1:09:08 it. It's only a maunter of time. So we can no longer go

1:09:11 on this notion of mutually assured destruction because clearly, if if what we can

1:09:16 just look at the news every day, there's like a mass shootings on a

1:09:20 regular basis in the United States, Like there's just there's a mental health crisis,

1:09:28 and then you know, I don't know, I don't know how you

1:09:32 feel, but there's a there's a mental health crisis and and and nuclear weapons

1:09:38 and and all the stress that's on everybody, uh with when when wars start

1:09:44 to break out, like we you and I are we're sitting here, we're

1:09:46 having this conversation and we're safe Ukraine, right, Israel, that's not the

1:09:53 case right now. Well, you know, if we're lucky, if we're

1:09:57 really really lucky. All right, there's a lot of different trains have thought

1:10:01 about if the ETS are benevolent or if they're evil or both. I think

1:10:06 if we're lucky, they're benevolent. And let's say Kim John Owen wanted to

1:10:13 blow up South Korea with a nuke. Well, we know, Bob Sallace

1:10:17 knows ets can stop that from happening. They can prevent that from happening.

1:10:24 Let's hope that if one of these imbeciles that gets back in the corner,

1:10:28 like a Putin or Kim John Ill or a gi press a button and say,

1:10:32 you know what, I don't I don't like New York City. They

1:10:35 pissed me off. Let's take out New York City. Well, the ETS

1:10:39 can shut it down, So you know that that might that might be one

1:10:45 of the reasons why they're here. That's really that could be one of the

1:10:49 reasons why they're here is to protect us from ourselves. Right. Imagine the

1:10:56 reaction though, do it happened from such things. Well, it's already,

1:10:59 it's happened, And many times I was not it's not it's not public knowledge.

1:11:03 I was going to bring up them. So I don't remember what his

1:11:08 name was, but it was a gentleman and he said he was there,

1:11:12 he's filming. And I think even the astronaut Gordon Cooper talked about something very

1:11:20 similar that they were testing a dummy. Uh it was a nuclear weapon,

1:11:30 but it was it was a dummy. It was a dummy version of it,

1:11:34 and they were filming it. And as as it's going up, it

1:11:40 gets to altitude and and it's it's rising and in the frame of the camera

1:11:46 come comes this like this UFO shoots a beam at it above, it shoots

1:11:54 another beam at it goes next to it, shoots another beam at it,

1:11:57 goes under it shoots a beam flag to the other side of the screen,

1:12:00 and then the thing just top topples out of the air. I don't I

1:12:04 don't think. I don't think that was Gordon Cooper, but yeah, I

1:12:08 know exactly Cooper one. But it's something similar to the fact that Gordon Cooper

1:12:14 filmed something. And yeah, and he never was allowed to see the film,

1:12:18 right, had to send it to Washington. Yeah, well, we

1:12:21 know that they can stop these bombs. We know that they can do that.

1:12:26 So let's hope that that's the case. You know, regarding mental illness

1:12:30 and mass shootings, well other than the stray stray, like there was one

1:12:34 I think in Denmark recently or France. But America has all the mass shootings

1:12:41 around that does not happen around the world. We have too many Sorry,

1:12:46 we have too many guns. We are too protective of our gun laws.

1:12:51 Nobody in the in the world needs a machine gun and assault Who needs an

1:12:57 assault weapon? Oh, we have to have our guns. Second Amendment.

1:13:00 I don't think Thomas Jefferson meant for us to have assault weapons in our home.

1:13:05 Yeah, I don't. I think it was. You know, in

1:13:09 those days, there were what the muscot the Muscuts took twenty minutes to load

1:13:14 a gun bullet laws by candlelight. They would if we brought Thomas Jefferson back

1:13:20 from the dead and brought him here right now, he would look at us

1:13:24 and be like, are you guys special? Are you sitting? He would

1:13:28 say, what what have you What have you done to my genius? My

1:13:31 genius foresight. She's twenty bullets a second. I don't think you need that.

1:13:40 You don't think that falls under the same constitutional law that of of of

1:13:45 the guy who was writing these laws. By that dandel in well twenty minutes

1:13:51 to load the gun. They didn't have freezers to keep their their food in.

1:13:57 So that you know, this is a this is the same part the

1:14:01 same people, and they're you know, all of our laws were meant to

1:14:05 adapt and grow. Thomas Jefferson was shake I think he would cry if he

1:14:11 saw Orange Jesus and what the GOP has been doing to our country. I

1:14:15 think he would just break down and stop crying. You know. Yeah,

1:14:18 I often think of what the Founding Fathers would think of of us, because

1:14:25 we you know, right now in the world, there's a lot of people

1:14:29 that are like all the Founding Fathers. They were all terrible people. They

1:14:35 lived in a different time we all most of them were geniuses. Some of

1:14:42 them owned slaves, okay, and the period of the time slavery was not

1:14:47 illegal, yes, okay. So other than that, George Washington, Thomas

1:14:53 Jefferson, I think John Hancock, whoever, John Adams, these guys were

1:14:57 brilliant, brilliant. They just fought off a dictator king, and they said,

1:15:02 wow, we won. We have our own, brand new little baby

1:15:06 in our hands. We can craft America how we want to. And they

1:15:12 put everything they put. What they put in the Constitution is and the declaration

1:15:15 is incredible. They did not foresee Donald Trump. They did not foresee abortions,

1:15:21 They did not foresee assault weapons. The things how could are atomic?

1:15:27 But how could they have foreseen that in seventeen seventy five and six. So

1:15:31 our Congress is not good at updating our laws at all, and people take

1:15:36 advantage of all the loopholes like the Second Amendment. But anyway, Tyler,

1:15:41 you know what, I got to wrap this up. Then, Yeah,

1:15:43 I was just gonna say, I do I do want to start wrapping up.

1:15:48 But yeah, I couldn't agree with you more man that I think they

1:15:57 if they could come back, they were to be like guys. They would

1:16:00 weep, they would weep. Guys are supposed to adapt, you know,

1:16:03 that's the whole thing. It's adapting, right. We built it to be

1:16:10 new, to be fresh, and to be free, and it was and

1:16:15 then that worked. That worked for a really, really long time, and

1:16:17 now it's really two hundred and fifty years later. It's really being challenged.

1:16:21 It is on a daily basis. Can I get some plugs in? Yeah?

1:16:27 So listen, Dan, I want to say thank you, of course

1:16:29 for being on the show. You are, you're in my book. You're

1:16:33 becoming quickly. Uh, you know one of my favorite people in your followday.

1:16:38 That's very sweet, very sweet. Now, yeah, and I look,

1:16:42 you know when I'm you know when I'm out there, because I'll be

1:16:45 starting filming in March late March, and I will be in California by probably

1:16:51 mid mid March, late March, so you know, I'll be giving you

1:16:57 a call and we'll be meeting face to face. But where can people just

1:17:01 give me everything? Hammer? It all? All right? So before I

1:17:05 forget Tyler, mark this down. March seventeenth, you'll fe'll be in La.

1:17:11 We're having our first HDA members meeting March seventeenth, Sunday. It's going

1:17:15 to be Paul Heinik, Sean Jablonski, David O'Leary, and Alec Wells and

1:17:20 it's going to be the making of Project blue Book, the TV series.

1:17:25 It's only for h DA members, so you're certainly invited. March seventeenth,

1:17:29 two to five pm and once you're on the web once I'll email you that.

1:17:33 Yeah, I might even be able to do that. I mean,

1:17:39 if you're doing it in person, I might be Yeah, that's an in

1:17:42 person. Yeah, that's a live meeting. Yeah, it's going to be

1:17:45 at a theater all right. So I am Dan Harari. I've written two

1:17:47 books, Flirting with Fame and after they came they're both on Amazon. Dan

1:17:55 harrariauthor dot com. Dan harariauthor dot com is my writing website. I can

1:18:02 be contacted through there. My bio is there, and I have two new

1:18:06 books coming out this May, and I'll be back when Tyler's showing May to

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1:18:23 who are interested out there in the world check us out if you're interested.

1:18:26 It tells you how to contact me there as well. And thank you Tyler

1:18:30 for having me on. I have to go get ready for my dinner with

1:18:32 Chrissy Newton, so I have to leave soon, but thanks for having me

1:18:36 on. Man, it's always fun to talk to you. Hello, I

1:18:53 was muted. I was literally just talking to you for like two minutes muted,

1:18:58 but yeah, no, thank you, Dan, thank you so much

1:19:00 for coming on, and yeah you do have to get to that dinner and

1:19:03 definitely tell Christy that Total Disclosure said, I I can't wait and I look

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