BONUS SEGMENT- The Questions NOBODY DARES ASK| Ft. ADAM EISENBERG Pentagon First Responder On 9/11| MEMBERS ONLY PREVIEW

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1:29 Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody. This is the bonus segment for those

1:34 Speaker 2: of you that do pay the membership fee and do

1:39 Speaker 2: help us in that extra way. I've been looking forward

1:43 Speaker 2: to developing the segment because now that we are flying

1:48 Speaker 2: people in and bringing people in studio, there is that

1:52 Speaker 2: opportunity for a little bonus segment or rapid fires I

1:56 Speaker 2: like to call it.

1:57 Speaker 3: Now.

1:57 Speaker 2: For this episode, I did not ask for questions from

2:01 Speaker 2: members because I just didn't think that that would be

2:06 Speaker 2: a good way to conduct it. So what I'm gonna

2:08 Speaker 2: do in this one is I've added Adam here from

2:12 Speaker 2: the episode we just did on nine to eleven. He

2:16 Speaker 2: was a first responder firefighter on the day of September eleventh,

2:22 Speaker 2: working with what is called the Old Guard and essentially

2:26 Speaker 2: was called in and worked over two hundred and forty

2:31 Speaker 2: hours there. So I'm gonna ask you, Adam some rapid

2:34 Speaker 2: fire questions here and again this is just for the

2:38 Speaker 2: members only, so we can, you know, let our hair

2:42 Speaker 2: down a little.

2:43 Speaker 3: Oh no, We're going to be authentic.

2:47 Speaker 2: So after everything he witnessed firsthand, what was it like

2:53 Speaker 2: to watch the American people be deceived right in front

2:57 Speaker 2: of your eyes? And what did that make you feel

3:00 Speaker 2: in terms of your service to that same country.

3:05 Speaker 3: I really didn't understand the way we were being deceived

3:09 Speaker 3: in regarding that incident for a number of years down

3:13 Speaker 3: the line. So my understanding of what took place and

3:19 Speaker 3: putting all the pieces together is even somebody that had

3:23 Speaker 3: quite a bit of access that that was really hard

3:28 Speaker 3: for me to come to terms with. So yeah, I

3:34 Speaker 3: let's just say between that and another a number of

3:37 Speaker 3: other incidents that have occurred. You know, I try to

3:43 Speaker 3: give grace because of the levels of deception that I've

3:47 Speaker 3: been able to see and even that are present, like

3:49 Speaker 3: with COVID and all the incidents that have gone all

3:52 Speaker 3: the way back to like when the nine to eleven

3:55 Speaker 3: really occurred. Yeah, the financial catastrophes, all the fans, the

4:00 Speaker 3: places where accountability wasn't had still to this day. We

4:04 Speaker 3: talked a little bit about Fauci and how he can't

4:06 Speaker 3: be held accountable. Yeah, if you believe in the Epstein files,

4:11 Speaker 3: why is there no accountability there?

4:14 Speaker 2: We'll think about this when George Floyd, when that whole

4:20 Speaker 2: thing happened right as terrible as it was, right, And

4:25 Speaker 2: you can argue whatever political side you want of that

4:28 Speaker 2: right with the Black Lives matter, the all lives matter,

4:32 Speaker 2: the blue lives like, listen, all life is precious, of course, right,

4:37 Speaker 2: and no one wants to see any life taken. But

4:41 Speaker 2: they they took to the streets, they marched, they looted,

4:46 Speaker 2: they rioted, they lit shit on fire in cities across

4:53 Speaker 2: the country. And then the Epstein files come out and

4:56 Speaker 2: they're about our children and our women. Mm hmm. And

5:02 Speaker 2: where are the protesters were? Where are the people taken

5:05 Speaker 2: to the streets for the kids? Where? Where is where's

5:12 Speaker 2: all the outrage for the app for for for for

5:15 Speaker 2: what was being done to the children and women that

5:19 Speaker 2: that that were underage men, to underage boys. Where Where's

5:26 Speaker 2: where are those same people for them?

5:30 Speaker 3: And you know, we can look at a number of

5:32 Speaker 3: issues where it's like why is this happening? Why is

5:35 Speaker 3: this not happening for me? You know, everything that I

5:39 Speaker 3: do is is nine to eleven based. Yeah, you're right,

5:42 Speaker 3: there's there's so many things that we face right now.

5:45 Speaker 2: But it's just clearly like been designed, Like the protest thing,

5:49 Speaker 2: It's like even what we think is rebellion has been orchestrated.

5:54 Speaker 2: It's all a big song and dumb number dance. So

6:00 Speaker 2: I don't know if I just said that it's all

6:02 Speaker 2: a big number song and dance number, song and dance number.

6:09 Speaker 3: Yeah, where we were going about it was just like

6:11 Speaker 3: I was trying to I couldn't.

6:12 Speaker 2: Grab the word. It's all one big Sos Jesus Christ,

6:17 Speaker 2: one big dance number, and it's orchestrated and it's like

6:21 Speaker 2: it's like professional wrestling or like a drama. It's it's

6:24 Speaker 2: got its You know.

6:26 Speaker 3: How that applies in my world because we're talking nine

6:28 Speaker 3: to eleven here, the effort that I have witnessed as

6:35 Speaker 3: an activist and witness to this event, and the places

6:42 Speaker 3: and the people it all ties in, and the parts

6:44 Speaker 3: of the world, and the the very coordinated effort, I

6:48 Speaker 3: guess you could say it doesn't surprise me that these

6:53 Speaker 3: type of incidents occur. And again, I when all the

6:57 Speaker 3: lights are on between this in the last twenty five years,

7:02 Speaker 3: what's really taken place. People are going to truly come

7:06 Speaker 3: to terms. And so that's all I can say is

7:08 Speaker 3: all the world is a stage. We talked a little

7:10 Speaker 3: bit off record, off mic just about some of the

7:14 Speaker 3: things that I have witnessed with my own experience and

7:17 Speaker 3: these people that that I'm speaking of. They're they're the experts,

7:22 Speaker 3: so to speak, they're the influencers. They're the ones that

7:24 Speaker 3: are being flown all over the world.

7:27 Speaker 2: To give lectures and.

7:29 Speaker 3: This this this boundary, and you got to you get

7:34 Speaker 3: to ask yourself, you know, like, you know, how do

7:36 Speaker 3: we hold these people accountable when they claim that they're

7:41 Speaker 3: one thing and they're actually not. Does that make sense?

7:45 Speaker 2: It does? It does? It does because they're pretending to

7:48 Speaker 2: seek truth, but their actual goal is to keep people

7:53 Speaker 2: in check. And that's a that's a very conundric That's

7:58 Speaker 2: why I made up word by that's a that's a

8:01 Speaker 2: conundrument itself, and it's contradictory in the way I see it.

8:06 Speaker 3: Well, you just have to try to understand what people's

8:10 Speaker 3: overall objectives are and and does it lead to a courtroom.

8:20 Speaker 2: Yeah, or an indictment or does it lead to or

8:22 Speaker 2: does it stayed in a paycheck?

8:25 Speaker 3: A paycheck?

8:27 Speaker 2: Yeah?

8:28 Speaker 3: You know. There's there's a lot of people right now

8:29 Speaker 3: that are speaking on a number of issues, and I

8:33 Speaker 3: think we really have to stop and ask ourselves, like,

8:40 Speaker 3: how do we truly understand the motives of this person?

8:43 Speaker 3: Like where do they come from what's behind them, because

8:48 Speaker 3: I can tell you, like I I I I get

8:51 Speaker 3: why some people are really really critical with me. I

8:58 Speaker 3: understand that's why I go so crazy with the evidence

9:02 Speaker 3: that I bring. It's it's it's necessary right now.

9:05 Speaker 2: Right right to like balance like to outbalance or balance

9:10 Speaker 2: out what they're trying to pin against you.

9:12 Speaker 3: Yeah, truth in every regard is being without question like

9:19 Speaker 3: challenge right now, right the battle for perception is very

9:24 Speaker 3: much at hand.

9:26 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I couldn't agree more. Actually, I think people's

9:29 Speaker 2: attention is is is something that does have Oh man,

9:36 Speaker 2: you spot on do you think that President Bush was

9:42 Speaker 2: aware of nine to eleven or what I shouldn't say

9:47 Speaker 2: nine to eleven? But do you think he was aware

9:49 Speaker 2: of the attacks and involved in the ultimate like cover

9:54 Speaker 2: up of nine to eleven?

9:56 Speaker 3: Okay, So I'm going to promote what my evidence shows,

10:01 Speaker 3: not what I believe. Right now, if a federal apparatus

10:07 Speaker 3: were to require that I show evidence that my lead

10:11 Speaker 3: suspect had connection to the White House, I could say, yes,

10:17 Speaker 3: I have that by way of a confession about a

10:20 Speaker 3: phone call that would have been made had things not

10:23 Speaker 3: going his you know, his way, when he was conducting

10:26 Speaker 3: operations that day. He was said, you know, I'm going

10:28 Speaker 3: to call the White House, you know, and he was

10:32 Speaker 3: allegedly saying these things to the war room of the

10:36 Speaker 3: Pentagon his words, not mine. The claims that were being

10:44 Speaker 3: made have been made over like the last five years

10:48 Speaker 3: about the types of access that this individual had that day,

10:54 Speaker 3: you know that would.

10:55 Speaker 2: You're talking about that individual's name.

10:59 Speaker 3: The individual that I've been investigating, individual Carmen Lee Whielberger

11:03 Speaker 3: of Klew World News. I want him to answer some questions, okay,

11:08 Speaker 3: about what he said in the connections that he had

11:12 Speaker 3: to the president, to the White House his words. Yeah,

11:18 Speaker 3: so you're saying, you know, do I think Bush had involvement?

11:21 Speaker 3: You know, this gentleman who I've been pulling under the

11:25 Speaker 3: microscope for the last five years.

11:28 Speaker 2: You know, he claims to have had ties into the

11:30 Speaker 2: White House.

11:31 Speaker 3: Yeah, claims that day that he was going to call

11:33 Speaker 3: them if he didn't get exactly what he wanted.

11:36 Speaker 2: Very interesting, very interesting, my friend.

11:39 Speaker 3: I have, like I said, I'm going to include the video,

11:43 Speaker 3: the seven and a half hour video with this so

11:47 Speaker 3: you can release it all. But I did a an

11:49 Speaker 3: almost an eight hour long presentation on why this individual

11:54 Speaker 3: should be looked at as a potential candidate to have

11:59 Speaker 3: been a part of whatever type of incendiary incident took place. Okay,

12:07 Speaker 3: because look at the the entire array of evidence that's available,

12:13 Speaker 3: the people that have come forward on this issue. It's

12:17 Speaker 3: I mean, I myself for the last two plus years

12:20 Speaker 3: now have a five thousand dollars debate challenge out, and

12:25 Speaker 3: I said to anybody, I'll put up five thousand dollars.

12:27 Speaker 3: You put up five thousand dollars. When I win, I'll

12:30 Speaker 3: donate the money to stop soldier suicide. Like I don't,

12:34 Speaker 3: I won't keep the money. I refuse.

12:35 Speaker 2: I'll host that.

12:37 Speaker 4: Okay, thank you, because we'll host that.

12:39 Speaker 3: Jason and Matt at the Free Thought Projects said that

12:41 Speaker 3: they would they would also love to take part in that.

12:44 Speaker 2: I would love to.

12:44 Speaker 3: Yeah, that challenge went out to the world's experts, and yeah,

12:51 Speaker 3: I throw down on that. They refuse to take me

12:53 Speaker 3: up on my challenge.

12:54 Speaker 2: All right, Well we'll put that challenge out once more.

12:57 Speaker 2: So final rapid fire. Well, no, two more, man, I

13:05 Speaker 2: love these questions, by the way, two more.

13:07 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm serious. This is great. I'm giving you guys,

13:10 Speaker 3: in my humble opinion, the best possible answers. I encourage

13:13 Speaker 3: anybody that I do podcasts with to ask me about

13:16 Speaker 3: you know anything, right, and I'm gonna do my best

13:18 Speaker 3: to answer it.

13:19 Speaker 2: Yeah. So, Donald Rumsfeld famously gave this speech in the

13:25 Speaker 2: the day before nine to eleven where he uh talked

13:28 Speaker 2: about can you look up what the number is? I

13:32 Speaker 2: think it was what is it two point seven trillion

13:35 Speaker 2: or one point seven.

13:36 Speaker 3: Point three trillion?

13:37 Speaker 2: One point three trillion that.

13:39 Speaker 3: Was missing missing.

13:41 Speaker 2: From the Pentagon's audit in.

13:45 Speaker 3: Which we failed. Now I believe eight.

13:47 Speaker 2: In a row. Yeah, or I think it's up to

13:50 Speaker 2: like nine or ten.

13:51 Speaker 3: Now they keep I think it's eight, and they just

13:52 Speaker 3: keep saying, but we're really we're really proud and happy.

13:55 Speaker 2: With with what we've accomplished.

13:57 Speaker 4: Yeah, well that's great. So what would happen if we

14:01 Speaker 4: worked at Like, dude.

14:02 Speaker 2: You would be in fucking jail if you owed one

14:05 Speaker 2: point one point one million.

14:08 Speaker 3: Yes, stole over the course of a year, like you know,

14:10 Speaker 3: a thousand or two thousand dollars from the tip jar.

14:12 Speaker 3: You know, do you think people would you.

14:15 Speaker 2: Know, you'd be you'd be indicted, you'd be in you'd

14:19 Speaker 2: be in a federal prison. Somewhere for I R s uh,

14:24 Speaker 2: you know, audit tax fraud. But two point three trillion dollars.

14:31 Speaker 2: So Donald Trump says, makes the speech the next day.

14:36 Speaker 2: The Pentagon, the exact portion of the Pentagon that holds

14:40 Speaker 2: all the top secret files and the the budget, uh,

14:45 Speaker 2: the black budget.

14:46 Speaker 4: Yeah, instigated all the accounting stuff.

14:51 Speaker 2: That's the part of the Pentagon that gets hit by

14:54 Speaker 2: a plane and all that evidence, uh, and all that

15:00 Speaker 2: all that documentation, you know, is incinerated, quote unquote. But

15:07 Speaker 2: then a week after nine to eleven, we we He

15:09 Speaker 2: comes back on and says, by the way, we found

15:12 Speaker 2: the two point three trillion. Don't worry about it.

15:15 Speaker 3: Don't worry about it.

15:16 Speaker 2: Don't worry about that. So what do you think about?

15:20 Speaker 2: What do you what do you make of that little

15:23 Speaker 2: piece of evidence? That's something weird was going on?

15:27 Speaker 3: The one point three Well, yeah, I looked to all

15:29 Speaker 3: the fames two point three. I looked at all the fames.

15:33 Speaker 2: That's in two thousand and one, given inflation, that's like

15:37 Speaker 2: sixteen trillion. Probably.

15:39 Speaker 3: Well, my my research also shows, I mean, and anybody

15:42 Speaker 3: can look this up, what was the national debt in

15:45 Speaker 3: two thousand and one? It's like five trillion. I think

15:48 Speaker 3: if I had to guess up the top of my head,

15:50 Speaker 3: I mean, please, we've got ai Please, I think it

15:53 Speaker 3: was like around five trillion. But how many empires over

15:58 Speaker 3: the course of history can we look at to say

16:01 Speaker 3: that place ended due to military overexpansion, fighting wars on

16:06 Speaker 3: multiple fronts, Like it's it's very obvious if you understand.

16:13 Speaker 4: History, you're going to repeat itself itself.

16:15 Speaker 3: And it's yeah, so you.

16:17 Speaker 2: Do you think America is going through a collapse?

16:20 Speaker 3: We were going through something. And again, this is where

16:25 Speaker 3: I have to encourage people. Mike Lofgren I believe is

16:27 Speaker 3: his name Anatomy of the Deep State. He's written quite

16:30 Speaker 3: a bit about it. We're just going through this place

16:33 Speaker 3: where there's a trans national structure of power that has

16:40 Speaker 3: systematically inserted itself and has basically been able to dominate

16:47 Speaker 3: the larger population. And you know, the words were policy

16:52 Speaker 3: coup I believe by General Wesley Clark. Shortly after September

16:58 Speaker 3: eleventh occurred. He was in the scuttle was he talking

17:00 Speaker 3: about you know, his friends saying all these things about

17:02 Speaker 3: these operations that were coming to Fruition, And they're like,

17:06 Speaker 3: you know, He's like, I don't know. Now it's like

17:08 Speaker 3: seven countries and it's just they didn't even understand.

17:11 Speaker 2: Right, you know, that's wild. Yeah, so.

17:18 Speaker 3: The United States?

17:22 Speaker 2: Yeah, good memory.

17:23 Speaker 3: Yeah, and what is it now?

17:25 Speaker 2: Forty so given inflation, that two point three trillion.

17:29 Speaker 3: That was missing is like everything is up.

17:32 Speaker 2: But that's crazy to me that that exact portion of

17:35 Speaker 2: the Pentagon gets hit with a clearly what not a

17:37 Speaker 2: plane like you said, but it gets evaporated by just

17:42 Speaker 2: by you know, catastrophe.

17:45 Speaker 3: And there's two also things to really consider in that

17:48 Speaker 3: part of the building. I think that's absolutely a relevant thing,

17:51 Speaker 3: the missing money investigation, the people that might have lost

17:54 Speaker 3: their lives. But then there's the I think that that

17:57 Speaker 3: specific part of the building was used because of the

18:00 Speaker 3: de I A component, you know, the intelligence wing, which

18:04 Speaker 3: makes no mistake about it, the intelligence wings control everything.

18:09 Speaker 3: At least my research leads me to believe that. But

18:12 Speaker 3: the d I A was located right there. It was

18:15 Speaker 3: also a portion of the building that was undergoing significant renovation,

18:20 Speaker 3: so nobody was in that part.

18:22 Speaker 2: The least amount of casualty possible.

18:24 Speaker 3: And coincidentally, and thank god for this, my my research

18:27 Speaker 3: is going to show that depentingon renovation a k a.

18:30 Speaker 3: Pen Rent. It needs to be looked into. They were

18:34 Speaker 3: donating money to a lot of candidates that were you know,

18:41 Speaker 3: neocons and things of that nature, and so you know

18:44 Speaker 3: they also were benefiting.

18:46 Speaker 2: They're playing both sides.

18:47 Speaker 3: Lee lee Evy was in the in the earliest days.

18:51 Speaker 3: This is the head of the pen Rent project. He

18:53 Speaker 3: was evading questions from the public, deflecting. He specifically also

18:59 Speaker 3: talks about this one witness that was allegedly almost ingested

19:04 Speaker 3: into the engine. That tells me logically that somebody on

19:08 Speaker 3: pen Ren's team would be willing to testify against or

19:13 Speaker 3: excuse me in favor of the official narrative. And I

19:16 Speaker 3: don't think they maybe had to pull that person out

19:18 Speaker 3: of the woodline to do that. But when he was addressed,

19:23 Speaker 3: you know, to ask questions about these witnesses, they were

19:26 Speaker 3: he was coming up with these answers that were just like,

19:28 Speaker 3: you know, like he would bring up issues about them

19:31 Speaker 3: that had no actual, you know, bearing on that question. Right,

19:36 Speaker 3: He's like, oh, he's a Vietnam veteran, and he would

19:38 Speaker 3: bring up his Vietnam past, and then you know that

19:40 Speaker 3: witness never came forward.

19:44 Speaker 2: So it's yeah, I get it. It's tough, are you.

19:50 Speaker 3: You know, there's so many things that could have happened

19:52 Speaker 3: that day, you guys that I'm just I'm just going

19:55 Speaker 3: to reiterate it. You know, if we really believe that

20:00 Speaker 3: there was a conspiracy, that would have to be people

20:02 Speaker 3: and this like subject. It can't just stay relevant in

20:09 Speaker 3: these spaces and nobody does nothing. We have to get

20:14 Speaker 3: people into a courtroom. And that's my heart to heart

20:19 Speaker 3: biggest criticism of nine to eleven Truth thus far is that,

20:24 Speaker 3: you know, some of the most active players, they they

20:29 Speaker 3: really just talk about like what they believe happened. They

20:33 Speaker 3: they don't point.

20:35 Speaker 2: To there's no action.

20:37 Speaker 3: Well yeah, it's stuck in the mud. It's it. They

20:39 Speaker 3: don't point to actual suspects. And when people come forward

20:43 Speaker 3: with information about where those suspects could possibly be, they

20:50 Speaker 3: they they you know, if you put it right here,

20:51 Speaker 3: they look over here, if you put it over here,

20:53 Speaker 3: and it's they they employed these very clever means to

20:58 Speaker 3: keep the spotlight on them. So it's like, do you

21:02 Speaker 3: do that because that's your grift, you know, or are

21:06 Speaker 3: you doing that because you know that's your way of

21:09 Speaker 3: you know, that's your way of supporting yourself or do

21:12 Speaker 3: you really seek out justice? You know what if justice

21:14 Speaker 3: were to come and the attention would then.

21:17 Speaker 2: Be over here, well then they're out of a job.

21:20 Speaker 3: Yes, And so I hold space for even that. But

21:23 Speaker 3: where I don't hold space for are people that employ

21:27 Speaker 3: very obvious twenty five rules of disinformation.

21:31 Speaker 2: And sign up.

21:33 Speaker 3: And it's it's very obvious to me that these types

21:37 Speaker 3: of people exist. And so when it's it's very heavy

21:40 Speaker 3: in nine to eleven legally to protect you and I

21:43 Speaker 3: I'm not going to start naming names. That's where my

21:46 Speaker 3: second book I want to literally find out like an attorney,

21:49 Speaker 3: It's like, how do I ask people to take certain

21:52 Speaker 3: tests and to go through certain filters? What do I

21:54 Speaker 3: do what information? Ultimately? And this is a question I

21:57 Speaker 3: have for you, even in you as well for anybody listening.

22:01 Speaker 3: What filters can we ask somebody to walk through to

22:04 Speaker 3: prove that they are trustworthy?

22:06 Speaker 2: Right? Last question for the members section, Are you a

22:11 Speaker 2: religious man?

22:12 Speaker 3: I believe in consciousness? Explain there is only consciousness, There

22:19 Speaker 3: is only consciousness, and that thought alone, I think requires

22:25 Speaker 3: deep thought. And I guess the way that I could

22:27 Speaker 3: summarize it is I try to look at all of

22:30 Speaker 3: us like we're we're waves. But ultimately, when that beautiful

22:35 Speaker 3: and sometimes gigantic wave crashes, you're still the ocean. And

22:40 Speaker 3: that's I think the best way that I can put it.

22:44 Speaker 3: There is only consciousness. And I there's a spiritual quote.

22:48 Speaker 3: I forget who said it, but ultimately, if I do

22:51 Speaker 3: harm to you, I'm doing harm myself. Yeah, and so yeah,

22:56 Speaker 3: you know, I think we're all just trying to walk

22:59 Speaker 3: each other home. And you know, I try to approach

23:04 Speaker 3: everybody like it's basically God and drag. But I think

23:09 Speaker 3: that wholeheartedly we are just all of one consciousness and

23:14 Speaker 3: the thing that we are here to experience is love.

23:18 Speaker 3: Love is I think that's the only.

23:20 Speaker 2: Thing that's eternal.

23:21 Speaker 3: Yeah.

23:22 Speaker 2: It transcends time, everything, space, everything, everything.

23:26 Speaker 3: It's the greatest emotion and it's exact.

23:30 Speaker 2: Because people think it's good versus evil, it's not. Yeah,

23:34 Speaker 2: it's loves.

23:36 Speaker 3: Evil versus darkness.

23:37 Speaker 2: Yeah.

23:38 Speaker 3: I genuinely believe, like you are not here to pay

23:42 Speaker 3: bills and die. There is something much deeper here and

23:47 Speaker 3: I've only I've seen that because.

23:48 Speaker 2: We've robbed of it.

23:50 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been in that position. I bought into the system.

23:52 Speaker 3: I was a millennial, you know, eighty one. I was

23:55 Speaker 3: part of that generation that thought, oh, we'll just we'll

23:57 Speaker 3: go to college and we'll do well, we'll serve a

23:59 Speaker 3: kund people do well, go to college, and then we'll

24:01 Speaker 3: get out and the opportunities will be there. And that's

24:04 Speaker 3: not the case with us. And we see it very clearly.

24:07 Speaker 2: And you let the corporations take over. Yeah, and without

24:11 Speaker 2: knowing it as well.

24:12 Speaker 3: I've been in that pay bills and die mode and

24:15 Speaker 3: then I've.

24:16 Speaker 2: You let us, you guys, let us lock them, lock

24:19 Speaker 2: us into this because you guys became so complacent on

24:22 Speaker 2: the the like what society meant and that was like

24:27 Speaker 2: by thirty you had to have a wife and a

24:29 Speaker 2: kids in a house.

24:30 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's what you've locked.

24:32 Speaker 2: Us into this weird structure.

24:34 Speaker 3: Before that does not work for us. Yeah, and it's

24:37 Speaker 3: hard to have discussions sometimes with the people that are still.

24:42 Speaker 2: It wasn't even you, it was it was your parents.

24:44 Speaker 3: Well, it's just it's it was the.

24:46 Speaker 2: World War two. It is really when it kicked. Because

24:49 Speaker 2: if you're that thing, was it, Like, Uh, hard times

24:54 Speaker 2: create or create.

24:55 Speaker 3: Hard times, create difficult or difficult times, create hard people.

24:59 Speaker 3: Hard people create easy times.

25:02 Speaker 2: Easy times create lazy people.

25:05 Speaker 3: Lazy people create hard times, difficult.

25:08 Speaker 2: Times, and then and thus we repeat. So it seems

25:11 Speaker 2: like we're going through one of those transitions right now.

25:13 Speaker 3: That's the best way to put it. And you know,

25:16 Speaker 3: Yuri Besmanov talked about the supreme level of warfare is

25:21 Speaker 3: essentially to get something into a position where it doesn't

25:25 Speaker 3: even know that.

25:26 Speaker 2: It's that it's at war. At war, yeah, and it's

25:31 Speaker 2: just a look at that, look at the United States.

25:33 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's where we're at.

25:34 Speaker 2: But we have no idea that we're fighting proxy wars

25:37 Speaker 2: all over the globe.

25:39 Speaker 3: Looking to ask Ai, don't don't even take my opinion

25:42 Speaker 3: for it, ask Ai to create a list for you

25:46 Speaker 3: where the Department of Defense and the intelligence apparatuses primarily

25:50 Speaker 3: the Central Intelligence Agency, where they have done tremendous wrong

25:54 Speaker 3: or got into a conflict where it was later determined

25:58 Speaker 3: through journalistic X. Suppose our congressional demand that the reason

26:03 Speaker 3: for us being there wasn't what it turned out to be.

26:06 Speaker 3: And we talked about this war has not been declared

26:09 Speaker 3: since war World War two. They just look for these

26:12 Speaker 3: creative little words to get around it. So then Congress

26:14 Speaker 3: doesn't have to be held accountable, and we let it

26:18 Speaker 3: go because we're distracted.

26:21 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're like, we're so concerned with what Kim Kardashian's

26:23 Speaker 2: wearing at the metcalap and it's like, oh my god,

26:29 Speaker 2: look at all these shiny things. And sometimes I even think,

26:33 Speaker 2: like what they're doing with the UFO files is like

26:35 Speaker 2: a look here thing. Oh right, but I think the

26:39 Speaker 2: ultimate like it's the ultimate shiny object. Right, So I'm

26:45 Speaker 2: like super skeptical when it comes to that.

26:47 Speaker 3: Think about I'm going to turn and ask you a

26:49 Speaker 3: question because I trust your opinion here. I like what

26:52 Speaker 3: I see it as far as the research I've done

26:54 Speaker 3: and the things I've been able to see in the

26:56 Speaker 3: short time we've been connected. But what what is your

26:58 Speaker 3: takeoverall on the alien total disclosure situation?

27:03 Speaker 2: Well, I don't think we should be calling them aliens,

27:06 Speaker 2: first off, because the U and the U in UFO

27:12 Speaker 2: or you even u IP is unknown, right, So to

27:15 Speaker 2: classify them as anything is probably a miscalculation of the

27:21 Speaker 2: human lens.

27:22 Speaker 3: Right.

27:22 Speaker 2: We always trying to put a box over everything, but like,

27:26 Speaker 2: and not to dig at you. I'm not I'm not

27:28 Speaker 2: digging at you, but so I try not to look

27:30 Speaker 2: at it at like alien. Like, I know, the archetypal

27:33 Speaker 2: alien is often what we associate and that's okay, it's

27:39 Speaker 2: like gives us, gives us a way of thinking about it.

27:43 Speaker 2: But I think we're probably dealing with a lot of

27:47 Speaker 2: different phenomena, right, So some of it might be extraterrestrial,

27:52 Speaker 2: but some of it might be interdimensional. And that's what

27:55 Speaker 2: our ancestors could have mistaken as or called gods. Right

28:01 Speaker 2: If every origin story, every single civilization, in their origin story,

28:08 Speaker 2: they talk about these beings that descend from the sky

28:13 Speaker 2: and teach us or create us for one purpose, and

28:20 Speaker 2: that is it varies among civilization, but you see the

28:24 Speaker 2: same core themes pop up and all these creation stories.

28:27 Speaker 2: And you know, in school, bringing it back to engineered

28:31 Speaker 2: reality and collective consensus because we're all agreeing on what

28:40 Speaker 2: reality is. We've all got it's like a consensus, right

28:43 Speaker 2: because not everything's black and white, so we all concede that,

28:47 Speaker 2: right now. UFOs are kind of like a stigma. They're

28:53 Speaker 2: kind of real like but aliens. So what I'm getting

28:58 Speaker 2: at is I think that we need to look at

29:04 Speaker 2: history again. You said it tends to repeat itself. So

29:09 Speaker 2: if we're looking back at our ancient ancestors. They're telling

29:13 Speaker 2: us that these beings descended from the sky, taught them civilization,

29:18 Speaker 2: taught them agriculture, alchemy, taught them, you know, how to survive,

29:25 Speaker 2: molded them, and then always promised to return. That's in

29:31 Speaker 2: almost every one of them, as well as a flood.

29:33 Speaker 2: So like, there's some things that we can discern. And

29:35 Speaker 2: in school, we're taught none of these cultures ever had

29:38 Speaker 2: any contact with each other. Yet they all build the

29:41 Speaker 2: same fucking structures, unimaginable, and we're taught that these people

29:48 Speaker 2: were a hunter gatherers. They're always pushing the goalposts back

29:51 Speaker 2: where a species that doesn't know our own human we

29:54 Speaker 2: were our own origin stories. We shed our and not

29:59 Speaker 2: to attack, but we stood up only to have back pain.

30:04 Speaker 2: We shed our fur only to need pelts in the winter.

30:07 Speaker 2: The very sun, the very thing that sustains life on

30:10 Speaker 2: this earth burns us. And we're the only one that

30:14 Speaker 2: gets that fucking that treatment. Are we have back pain?

30:18 Speaker 2: We are? We take you look at ecosystems, they're all

30:22 Speaker 2: self sustaining and they're beautiful. And then there's the human

30:27 Speaker 2: who just takes and never gives back. And we can't

30:31 Speaker 2: stop taking, and we can't stop creating, and we can't right,

30:37 Speaker 2: and we can't stop ruining all the environment and ecosystem

30:42 Speaker 2: that's around us because we need more apartment complexes. We

30:48 Speaker 2: are a plague on this planet in my opinion, however,

30:55 Speaker 2: we don't have to be. And I think I think

31:02 Speaker 2: we might be the alien. I think we may have

31:05 Speaker 2: come and and I say this, and because there are

31:09 Speaker 2: great humans out there, but when I say that we

31:12 Speaker 2: are a plague on this planet, I think that we

31:15 Speaker 2: I don't think we originate here. It doesn't agree. I

31:19 Speaker 2: think we were created and there's something there. Our ancestors

31:24 Speaker 2: knew it that they had less distractions. But ultimately this

31:30 Speaker 2: planet seems to be some sort of paradise planet where

31:34 Speaker 2: life is. It just thrives.

31:36 Speaker 4: It's supposed to library, Yeah, it just thrives.

31:39 Speaker 2: And and you know, like guys like Neildergrass Tyson, they

31:42 Speaker 2: always like to relate humans to ants and aliens to humans. Right,

31:47 Speaker 2: the way a human sees an ant is the way

31:49 Speaker 2: aliens would see humans. And I think that is such

31:52 Speaker 2: a mischaracterization, right, it's it's and it's such a naive

31:57 Speaker 2: thing to do. And now he's even flip flopping. He's

32:00 Speaker 2: he just wrote a book about alien contact. The guy's

32:04 Speaker 2: been shitting on it for the last twenty years. He's like,

32:08 Speaker 2: he's such a known grifter. So the communities are very

32:10 Speaker 2: similar in that sense. All the problems that you guys

32:13 Speaker 2: are having, we're having to. Like I said, so we

32:17 Speaker 2: need to help each.

32:17 Speaker 3: Other the lengths that I think these apparatuses are willing

32:23 Speaker 3: to let go.

32:23 Speaker 2: But the phenomena is real. It's one I've seen it, man,

32:27 Speaker 2: I've seen it multiple times in different.

32:31 Speaker 4: Forms.

32:34 Speaker 2: We don't have too much time. We got to end.

32:36 Speaker 2: But I saw a disc broad daylight man oscillated right

32:44 Speaker 2: over my head, gun metal gray oscillating, making no noise,

32:49 Speaker 2: tree top level, unmistakable, unmistakable led me on this path.

32:57 Speaker 2: Then the day my mother died, I saw an orb

33:01 Speaker 2: of light in the room with her, and I as

33:05 Speaker 2: she passed away. Both of those things involved my mother

33:12 Speaker 2: to some degree. I don't want to get too far

33:14 Speaker 2: into it, you can. You know, we have plenty of

33:17 Speaker 2: time to follow up on that kind of stuff. But yeah,

33:24 Speaker 2: so my pathway into all this has largely included her

33:31 Speaker 2: and what she did for me, how she grew like

33:35 Speaker 2: how she taught me to be open to not understanding

33:40 Speaker 2: the world, Like we didn't have all the answers. We

33:44 Speaker 2: just simply didn't. Don't You can't that there was not

33:48 Speaker 2: just a yes or no answer, Like there's gray and

33:52 Speaker 2: there's a lot of it, and I'm very thankful. Like

33:57 Speaker 2: she brought us to church. I remember she me and

34:00 Speaker 2: my sister to church, and then she we were on

34:04 Speaker 2: the drive home and she like, she turns around and

34:06 Speaker 2: she goes, do you guys want to go back? No?

34:09 Speaker 2: I remember I looked at myself and I was like,

34:11 Speaker 2: I don't really want to go back. Do you want

34:12 Speaker 2: to go back? No? No? And we said no. She

34:15 Speaker 2: never never brought us back. She never forced her views

34:20 Speaker 2: on us, and it allowed us to walk through life

34:22 Speaker 2: with this open but guarded right open but guarded lands

34:31 Speaker 2: like view. So I'm open to anything, but I just

34:35 Speaker 2: won't believe wholehearted, Like I'm not gonna believe full sale.

34:39 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I get it wholesale. I may have shared

34:41 Speaker 3: with you, But in twenty sixteen, I spent a very

34:45 Speaker 3: small moment of time in a Masters of Divinity setting.

34:51 Speaker 3: I thought in twenty sixteen when I stepped out, it

34:54 Speaker 3: was going to look a certain way, and I got

34:57 Speaker 3: really involved with racial activism in West Louisville. Basically, my

35:04 Speaker 3: oldest friend on the planet was a black kid, and

35:08 Speaker 3: I always had a difficult time understanding and you kind

35:12 Speaker 3: of talked about it a little bit ago, the the

35:16 Speaker 3: dynamic of what it would like to be a black

35:19 Speaker 3: man living in the United States. My oldest friend was black.

35:22 Speaker 3: I would be around some of my older family members

35:25 Speaker 3: and I would see this very sad but true, you know,

35:29 Speaker 3: racist reality, and so trying to I guess you could

35:34 Speaker 3: say understand that effect has been really soft on my heart.

35:39 Speaker 3: And I just thought there was a point in my

35:41 Speaker 3: life when I was going to kind of bridge gap,

35:45 Speaker 3: you know, gaps between communities and connect people from West

35:47 Speaker 3: to East Louisville. West Louisville is a predominantly black community,

35:53 Speaker 3: you know, and and I just saw that it was

35:55 Speaker 3: a part of the world that was being rejected at

35:58 Speaker 3: the time due to the issues that were taking place

36:02 Speaker 3: between the black community and the police. And so I

36:07 Speaker 3: tried to help where I could, and I got into

36:12 Speaker 3: faith based, you know. I thought my life was going

36:15 Speaker 3: to go in like a Christian kind of based way,

36:17 Speaker 3: and I got into a seminary, and I kind of

36:21 Speaker 3: that was my plan, you know, to bridge racial gaps

36:24 Speaker 3: and ultimately, you know, I just jesus, what were we

36:29 Speaker 3: talking about? Man? You gave me some really damn good weed.

36:31 Speaker 3: I'm going somewhere with It's legal here you guys. But

36:37 Speaker 3: we're talking about West Louisville.

36:40 Speaker 2: You said, Well, I wasn't talking about Well.

36:44 Speaker 3: I'm going to get to a point.

36:46 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I said, Uh.

36:47 Speaker 3: You asked me a question. What was your question?

36:50 Speaker 2: No, you asked me a question about what I saw

36:53 Speaker 2: when with the UFO.

36:56 Speaker 3: Where I was going.

36:57 Speaker 2: Yeah, so in a faith based way, your life was going. Sorry,

37:02 Speaker 2: are you religious?

37:03 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's where we're going. I thought my life was

37:05 Speaker 3: going to go a certain way, but it didn't pull me.

37:08 Speaker 3: That's where I was going with all this. I was

37:11 Speaker 3: I was helping understand and get to the bottom of

37:14 Speaker 3: an issue, but it didn't pull me. And so the

37:16 Speaker 3: only thing that I can say is that event that

37:19 Speaker 3: you had and that experience that you had with your

37:23 Speaker 3: mother that pulled you and you. I think I think

37:29 Speaker 3: it's on us to individually figure out what that thing

37:35 Speaker 3: is that pulls us like a magnet, because you can,

37:39 Speaker 3: you know, you can train.

37:40 Speaker 2: What gives yourself purpose?

37:41 Speaker 3: Yeah, what what magnetically pulls you the thing that you can't.

37:45 Speaker 2: If it's funny because I call it the north star.

37:48 Speaker 3: Yeah, if you if you woke up and you weren't

37:50 Speaker 3: pursuing that thing, you'd be a shell of a human being.

37:53 Speaker 2: Yeah. But again, we're not meant to just do nine

37:56 Speaker 2: to five punch a clock like. We're meant to have

37:59 Speaker 2: a purpose. And I know what my purpose is because

38:02 Speaker 2: I've walked nuclear controllers who had experiences with unknown craft

38:09 Speaker 2: interfering with their weapons, their nuclear weapons. I've walked those

38:14 Speaker 2: guys into brief members of Congress. Those selfless kind of

38:18 Speaker 2: moments are what I live for because they make a

38:22 Speaker 2: difference and they're not about me. They're something larger than me.

38:27 Speaker 2: It affects something larger than me, right, it means something.

38:35 Speaker 2: And that's what I like to do is facilitate those

38:38 Speaker 2: So I know my place. And what I've done is

38:41 Speaker 2: I've I'm happy with my place. I know what I

38:45 Speaker 2: need to do. So my north star has always been

38:48 Speaker 2: my mother. That's why she's always the highest thing in

38:50 Speaker 2: the room. Yeah, So her ashes are up there and

38:57 Speaker 2: and she's always highest in the room because she's you know,

39:00 Speaker 2: I've walked her into the halls of Congress, I've walked

39:02 Speaker 2: her into many places that years ago. You know, I

39:09 Speaker 2: think a lot of people wrote me off for a

39:10 Speaker 2: little while due to some some circumstance, and you know,

39:16 Speaker 2: to where I've where I am today versus there then,

39:21 Speaker 2: I think we've done some pretty incredible things. And uh,

39:25 Speaker 2: you know, she's definitely responsible for me sitting here with

39:28 Speaker 2: you today.

39:28 Speaker 3: And I'll tell you we can tap into that. You know,

39:32 Speaker 3: even people that have passed on, everything is energy. Yeah,

39:36 Speaker 3: you know, you can tap into the energy that they

39:39 Speaker 3: left behind, that they you know, that made you, They

39:43 Speaker 3: made you feel. So I believe, you know that everybody

39:46 Speaker 3: that walked before us and that it's gone, they still

39:49 Speaker 3: walk with us.

39:51 Speaker 2: I agree, I agree.

39:53 Speaker 3: I just I've been visited in dreams.

39:56 Speaker 2: You know, see I've I got that once, but it

39:59 Speaker 2: was weird. I couldn't talk.

40:02 Speaker 3: That's normal, Okay, I had the same thing with me.

40:04 Speaker 3: Can I share this experience if you like? Yeah, my

40:07 Speaker 3: grandfather and I had a pretty horrible relationship, and shortly

40:13 Speaker 3: after he passed, I had a dream. I know he's

40:16 Speaker 3: very upset because he's like you'd be nice to our guests.

40:19 Speaker 3: But I'm just come on, he's a great dog. But

40:22 Speaker 3: my grandfather basically in this dream locked eyes on me

40:25 Speaker 3: and it was kind of startling in a way, and

40:29 Speaker 3: he like immediately came over and he got really close

40:31 Speaker 3: to my face and he was like staring at me

40:34 Speaker 3: with these eyes. And I looked and I said to him, like,

40:37 Speaker 3: I didn't just say, and I finally said the one

40:39 Speaker 3: thing that I genuinely wish would have been different. I said,

40:42 Speaker 3: I wish you know, you and I would have been

40:43 Speaker 3: closer when you were alive. And he got this big

40:46 Speaker 3: smile on my face. On his face excuse me, and

40:49 Speaker 3: he like I woke up from the dream and I

40:50 Speaker 3: was like, holy shit, thank you. The other time it

40:54 Speaker 3: happened to me was when I was visited by a

40:58 Speaker 3: guy named Chris Hak He was one of my buddies

41:00 Speaker 3: that was killed in Iraq. Yeah, and it was weird it.

41:07 Speaker 3: I woke up feeling it.

41:09 Speaker 2: When did you have the dream? In reference, when did

41:11 Speaker 2: he die? And when did you have the dream?

41:13 Speaker 3: If I had to guess, it was within the first

41:15 Speaker 3: week after he passed away.

41:17 Speaker 2: And had you heard about it yet?

41:20 Speaker 3: Yes, I already knew at that point.

41:21 Speaker 2: Okay, so you did know, because some people report like

41:24 Speaker 2: having a dream before they know that it happened. So

41:28 Speaker 2: but this was okay. But it's still significant because.

41:32 Speaker 3: Oh well, there was two dreams. One we were like

41:34 Speaker 3: in this setting where it was like those old school

41:37 Speaker 3: like band areas where there was like you know, back

41:40 Speaker 3: like in the forties night what nightclubs would be, you know,

41:42 Speaker 3: tables and big band playing all this stuff. And yeah,

41:45 Speaker 3: I felt like I was like in this dream, like

41:48 Speaker 3: at this event, and I felt like this person was

41:51 Speaker 3: basically watching me. And I used to have a joke

41:54 Speaker 3: with him where we'd look I kind of look over

41:56 Speaker 3: to my left and I'd see him in the platoon

41:58 Speaker 3: next to me and always be giving me these really

42:00 Speaker 3: goofy looks. And that's just part of the joke. You know,

42:02 Speaker 3: he was just messing around, if you understood.

42:04 Speaker 2: I love those kind of people.

42:05 Speaker 3: Man, he was amazing and he was doing that to

42:08 Speaker 3: me in the dream, and so you.

42:11 Speaker 2: Know, it's real.

42:12 Speaker 3: It was crazy.

42:12 Speaker 2: It's like his tow.

42:13 Speaker 3: Yeah, and the you know, the very the conversation we

42:17 Speaker 3: had was very brief. It was just I knew in

42:20 Speaker 3: that moment I was being visited in a dream by

42:23 Speaker 3: somebody that had passed on. It was just kind of

42:25 Speaker 3: like a known thing. But I was like, I genuinely

42:30 Speaker 3: miss you. I will always do my best to make

42:32 Speaker 3: sure that none of your children suffer all that stuff.

42:34 Speaker 3: He's like, I know that, and he's like, this is

42:36 Speaker 3: how it works. And he just kept saying that over

42:39 Speaker 3: and over again.

42:39 Speaker 2: He's like, this is how it works.

42:41 Speaker 3: It works. He's just like, this is how it works.

42:43 Speaker 3: And I was like, really, what do you mean.

42:45 Speaker 2: He's just like, just this is how it works.

42:48 Speaker 3: That's he was saying to me over and over again.

42:51 Speaker 2: Clip that. No, I just I can say clip that

42:55 Speaker 2: and it will clip that. Don't worry.

42:59 Speaker 3: That's very interests.

43:01 Speaker 2: This is how it worked when I woke up. So

43:05 Speaker 2: he wasn't like he knew his children were going to

43:08 Speaker 2: be okay. He knew his wife would be okay, and

43:12 Speaker 2: he was like this very common.

43:14 Speaker 3: One of his one of his relatives even mentioned that

43:17 Speaker 3: she had a visitation from him in a dream as well.

43:21 Speaker 2: I saw my mom in one dream. And the reason

43:24 Speaker 2: I know it was actually her is because I saw

43:28 Speaker 2: her not in the form that I saw her in

43:33 Speaker 2: her death, but she was in in this ethereal form

43:38 Speaker 2: like she was in that picture, like it was the

43:42 Speaker 2: most perfect version of her. And she had this glow,

43:46 Speaker 2: and we were in front of her dad's house, and

43:50 Speaker 2: her dad's house had this beautiful cherry blossom tree and

43:55 Speaker 2: it was a dead end. And I don't want to

44:00 Speaker 2: go into I don't want to go into why that

44:03 Speaker 2: location is key, But the location is why I knew

44:09 Speaker 2: it was I was really being visited, because I would

44:13 Speaker 2: not have dreamed. I can't explain it how I know,

44:18 Speaker 2: but that's how I know. It wasn't just my imagination.

44:21 Speaker 2: I know it was something different but similar. I could

44:25 Speaker 2: not speak, and I'm the dead end is here. I'm

44:31 Speaker 2: facing outward, looking out, so the cherry blossom tree is

44:35 Speaker 2: on my left hand side, where her dad's house is.

44:38 Speaker 2: From her perspective, it's on her right side. She's looking

44:42 Speaker 2: down towards the dead end, which went into like the woods,

44:49 Speaker 2: and that was like a path that led to the

44:52 Speaker 2: neighborhood next door, and we used to refer to it

44:56 Speaker 2: as our safe space. And so but that's it's not important.

45:04 Speaker 2: But she said something and I I don't I don't

45:12 Speaker 2: really talk about this, but she said something that was

45:14 Speaker 2: meant for me only, and like the I just the

45:22 Speaker 2: Danas thing, I just you know what I mean, It's

45:24 Speaker 2: like it's a it's a it can't quite explain it,

45:27 Speaker 2: but you know it's it's her, And uh yeah, it was.

45:32 Speaker 2: I can't say it was similar to like this out works.

45:36 Speaker 2: It wasn't those words, but I couldn't speak back. It

45:41 Speaker 2: was I was like forced to just listen and because

45:45 Speaker 2: I I knew I wanted to say something back, but

45:49 Speaker 2: it was like I was locked into like a listen

45:51 Speaker 2: mode and I just and then I woke up out

45:55 Speaker 2: of it, and uh god, did I want to go

45:57 Speaker 2: back to sleep so bad.

46:00 Speaker 3: That I came away from I don't even know what

46:02 Speaker 3: the words are, but it to have like come out

46:06 Speaker 3: of an experience where you just, I mean, what would

46:11 Speaker 3: you consider that would you be with?

46:13 Speaker 2: Was that translucent, transcendent, ethereal, interdimensional? Because I think the

46:20 Speaker 2: dream realm there's something to it.

46:24 Speaker 3: Well, it's like taking a psychedelic and.

46:27 Speaker 2: Very much have you ever done d MT? Yes, so

46:30 Speaker 2: you go to another place, dude, completely, And I'm not

46:34 Speaker 2: so convinced that in dreams you don't quite tap into

46:37 Speaker 2: something similar that your mind is going to an autopilot,

46:43 Speaker 2: and it's entangling with some sort of interdimensional what you

46:48 Speaker 2: call the source, and it's just entangled with that. So

46:52 Speaker 2: you're playing over like this multiversal version of your life.

46:57 Speaker 2: It's like an autopilot for you to connect into. Right,

47:01 Speaker 2: that's my take on it. Like, and it's kind of crazy,

47:05 Speaker 2: but we do have to wrap up. Dude, You've been

47:08 Speaker 2: so amazing.

47:09 Speaker 3: No, I'm serious, this has been great. I I've always

47:12 Speaker 3: wanted to, like, seriously, take a break. The podcast is over. Yeah,

47:16 Speaker 3: it's so legal in the state. Let's go ourselves from

47:20 Speaker 3: a product from a cannabis dispensary and then come back

47:25 Speaker 3: and let's just be real and just talk about ship.

47:27 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it goes behind. It's for members only. It's

47:31 Speaker 2: like they know what's up. They're they're the best people.

47:34 Speaker 2: They're the ones who help us keep the lights on especially,

47:36 Speaker 2: so yeah, yeah, you to them.

47:39 Speaker 3: I'm serious. If you've listened to the podcast earlier, thank you.

47:42 Speaker 3: I mean that what they were hurt. Uh. You know,

47:44 Speaker 3: I'm trying to be as authentic as i as I

47:46 Speaker 3: can be.

47:47 Speaker 2: You know, our nine to eleven investigation is ongoing, and

47:52 Speaker 2: so it's what did you do? What did you think

47:54 Speaker 2: last name that Tucker Carlson coverage of nine to eleven.

47:58 Speaker 2: He did like a little special on it.

48:00 Speaker 3: You want to me, you know, the honestly got truth.

48:01 Speaker 4: Just just give me, like I'm gonna give you the truth.

48:04 Speaker 3: I didn't even watch it, I'm saying, I am. You

48:09 Speaker 3: gotta understand, I am that busy. I did not even

48:15 Speaker 3: watch it.

48:15 Speaker 2: I think it was pretty good, but I think it

48:19 Speaker 2: just no, we can't go there. It's too long. But

48:28 Speaker 2: he does the official narrative, but not the official narrative.

48:33 Speaker 2: He definitely concedes that there was a conspiracy, but he

48:36 Speaker 2: kind of just focuses on the intelligence failure part of it,

48:40 Speaker 2: and I think that's a disservice. While it was enlightening

48:45 Speaker 2: in that aspect of like looking at the intelligence failure

48:48 Speaker 2: and like how that was presented, it was a good

48:54 Speaker 2: you know it. I think it served a purpose. But

48:57 Speaker 2: like when I talk to guys like Norman, they're like,

49:00 Speaker 2: and I'm like, all right, I get it. But again,

49:02 Speaker 2: like I like to I like to see, listen to

49:05 Speaker 2: everything and then take what I need from it.

49:08 Speaker 3: You know, the people that I am asking questions of

49:12 Speaker 3: they worked within the intelligence apparatus and if I'm saying that, ultimately,

49:17 Speaker 3: they've got some questions to answer, you know, ultimately, can

49:21 Speaker 3: I ever get to a position where I trust anything

49:25 Speaker 3: that that apparatus has to say on the issue?

49:29 Speaker 2: Absolutely? Absolutely. So for members everyone, thank you guys so much.

49:36 Speaker 2: Keep on keeping on, stay humble, stay kind, stay vigilant,

49:41 Speaker 2: and we'll see you on the next one. We got

49:44 Speaker 2: some great episodes being recorded next week, including Luigi Vindietti.

49:50 Speaker 2: I don't really know how to pronounce his last name yet,

49:53 Speaker 2: and it's pretty embarrassing.

49:54 Speaker 3: But Patricia Casaza, when is that gonna go active? Is

49:57 Speaker 3: that live now?

49:58 Speaker 2: No, that'll come out on Thursday. I can't wait on Yeah,

50:04 Speaker 2: on Thursday, and then yours will be first. Yours comes

50:12 Speaker 2: out first, so and then yours will come out.

50:16 Speaker 3: Yeah. You got to understand her journey as well, and

50:19 Speaker 3: the types of things that you know, she's had to

50:22 Speaker 3: deal with. I just could not thank her and the

50:26 Speaker 3: other Jersey girls enough for their efforts in the beginning.

50:29 Speaker 3: They're the ones that got this whole thing.

50:30 Speaker 2: Yeah, amazing, amazing group of women. So, and we have

50:34 Speaker 2: plenty of other stuff. So we're gonna have like a

50:36 Speaker 2: bunch of backloged episodes for members, and you guys are

50:38 Speaker 2: gonna have all raw you know, unedited, early access and

50:43 Speaker 2: ad free. So continue helping the show. We'll see you guys,

51:11 Speaker 2: never w