DISCLOSED! The "Age Of Disclosure" LANDS Release| Alex Jones & Legal Issues

0:25 Speaker 1: A welcome back everyone too disclosed. My name's Ty Roberts,

0:30 Speaker 1: and I am the host creator of the UH program,

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0:37 Speaker 1: I just wanted to start off by saying thank you

0:41 Speaker 1: to everyone. UH. It's been really really fun to get

0:44 Speaker 1: back in the groove of doing these weekly live shows

0:48 Speaker 1: and and getting engaged with the audience in addition to

0:53 Speaker 1: putting out other content UH like the podcast, which Kry

0:58 Speaker 1: is great with editing. We have Peter Robbins coming up tomorrow,

1:03 Speaker 1: so it's already out on the audio feeds, and just

1:07 Speaker 1: an absolutely incredible conversation, absolutely incredible editing job by Cary.

1:12 Speaker 1: And today we're gonna be diving into a few topics.

1:15 Speaker 1: UFO stuff was a little dry, I guess this week.

1:20 Speaker 1: So I've kind of talked to carry you and back

1:23 Speaker 1: and forth and you know what should we talking to

1:25 Speaker 1: this about and discuss about? And I was like, you

1:27 Speaker 1: know what, let's just kind of kick back and really

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2:01 Speaker 1: let's engage each other, and uh yeah, let's have some

2:04 Speaker 1: fun with that being said. Cary, welcome, Hi, Hi.

2:12 Speaker 2: My name is Cary. I am the cohurst of this show.

2:15 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, hell, last week we ended the show and

2:22 Speaker 1: we started talking, well, so we we had an idea

2:26 Speaker 1: of talking about Dylan Borland. I hadn't had a chance

2:29 Speaker 1: to kind of get in this testimony that the episode

2:33 Speaker 1: did get in fact, a little heated towards the end

2:36 Speaker 1: with our differences and opinions. But again, I just want

2:39 Speaker 1: to start this show by saying that that is kind

2:42 Speaker 1: of the point.

2:44 Speaker 2: So I mean, sorry, you keep good.

2:51 Speaker 1: Finishing off. I do want to let you kind of

2:54 Speaker 1: you said you wanted to to talk about that. Aside

2:58 Speaker 1: from the actual case, I think we've made it pretty

3:01 Speaker 1: clear on different sides of this. What was it that

3:03 Speaker 1: you wanted to mention?

3:05 Speaker 2: It's just coffee debate. I had a lot of coffee,

3:09 Speaker 2: so it got a little intense. My aim is not

3:12 Speaker 2: to be that intense, like we can like so like

3:16 Speaker 2: I watched it back and was just like too much coffee. Well, so,

3:21 Speaker 2: whilst it was fun and is the point to have

3:22 Speaker 2: those kind of debates and it's fun to disagree and

3:25 Speaker 2: kind of poke and prod and push each other, I

3:28 Speaker 2: don't I never want to give the audience the impression

3:30 Speaker 2: that I'm a dick, So like I just want to

3:33 Speaker 2: like ease off the gas there a little.

3:35 Speaker 1: So I think I think I had a lot of fun.

3:39 Speaker 1: I had a lot of fun.

3:40 Speaker 2: I had a lot of fun. Just like you said,

3:41 Speaker 2: the audience is a third member in this conversation, so.

3:44 Speaker 1: I want to Ironically, I was actually watching the first

3:49 Speaker 1: half of the latest episode of Weaponized, and in the

3:54 Speaker 1: beginning of the episode they start talking about that the

3:57 Speaker 1: latest guy who had this the sighting an egg lit

4:00 Speaker 1: and Jeremy was bringing up maps and talking about angles

4:03 Speaker 1: of observation. I found it quite funny and ironic that

4:09 Speaker 1: all of a sudden they were looking at like basis

4:11 Speaker 1: of the maps of the base on Google and looking

4:15 Speaker 1: at angle of observation and where he saw it at

4:18 Speaker 1: Eglin and you know, we had just had that debate

4:21 Speaker 1: about Borland, so I don't know.

4:24 Speaker 2: What of what magic powers time I knew everything.

4:29 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I want to start today's show. Also, Well,

4:34 Speaker 1: obviously thanks for getting that out of the way, and listen.

4:37 Speaker 1: I think that's the point is, you know, we come

4:39 Speaker 1: from very different backgrounds, We come from very different places

4:43 Speaker 1: and corners of the community, and I think naturally that's

4:46 Speaker 1: that's kind of what the draw might be, is getting

4:50 Speaker 1: that angle of observation from your side, from mind side,

4:54 Speaker 1: and you know, displaying that for everyone to ask the

4:58 Speaker 1: right questions, to spoon feed them any answers. But speaking

5:04 Speaker 1: of I don't speaking of confusion. There's a documentary that

5:10 Speaker 1: was shown in March at south By Southwest all you know,

5:16 Speaker 1: every every person that went, all the big content creators.

5:20 Speaker 1: Rogan actually he's really the only one I can think

5:23 Speaker 1: of right now. Rogan. Uh, he's been talking about this

5:27 Speaker 1: Age of Disclosure documentary.

5:30 Speaker 2: Maybe yeah, rings about I could.

5:33 Speaker 1: Be wrong that that. Well, he does Tenfoil Hat and

5:36 Speaker 1: Friends with Corbels. Now Andy's a comedian, so that would

5:40 Speaker 1: make sense as well.

5:42 Speaker 2: Yeah, I cut you off. You were talking about Age

5:44 Speaker 2: of disclosure.

5:45 Speaker 1: Sorry, I know what does so as filmmakers and as

5:52 Speaker 1: people who make content, I think there's a confusion among

5:57 Speaker 1: the UFO community on how phil are distributed and how

6:02 Speaker 1: they I mean, you can just debut it on YouTube,

6:06 Speaker 1: but there especially this marketing itself as having thirty four

6:11 Speaker 1: you know, former government officials, military folk, you know this,

6:18 Speaker 1: Dan Farrah, you know, having worked with Spielberg and taking

6:22 Speaker 1: on this documentary, he wants to sell this for the

6:27 Speaker 1: highest price. And I don't think people really understand that

6:31 Speaker 1: this is not disclosure does have a price. Unfortunately when

6:35 Speaker 1: it comes to be you know, the money that was

6:37 Speaker 1: put into it to produce it. Now you have to

6:40 Speaker 1: satisfy the producers who bought in originally to fund it,

6:44 Speaker 1: and you have to make that money back plus some. So,

6:48 Speaker 1: I mean a lot of people are talking about where

6:50 Speaker 1: it might go. Is that it's going to have a

6:51 Speaker 1: limited run in theaters. What's your take on age of disclosure.

6:55 Speaker 1: I want to watch the trailer. I haven't seen it

6:59 Speaker 1: in I haven't seen the newest one. But what's your

7:02 Speaker 1: take on the whole process.

7:04 Speaker 2: I think it's been a bit long winded. I do too,

7:07 Speaker 2: and the fact that so I don't know. I'm not

7:11 Speaker 2: sure how much interest there was after south By Southwest.

7:15 Speaker 2: You know, it's not something that we're like, it's not

7:16 Speaker 2: like we're anybody's on the inside of the you know,

7:20 Speaker 2: these meetings and development and everything. So I don't know,

7:25 Speaker 2: it's it's just taken a very long time. I will

7:28 Speaker 2: say this though, This new trailer doesn't have James Crapper

7:31 Speaker 2: in it, which is that's always a plus side in

7:34 Speaker 2: my boat. You know why we'll see why is that

7:40 Speaker 2: because he's terrible? I know, I know he's terrible.

7:44 Speaker 1: You said, you said, you pulled up the trailer. I

7:48 Speaker 1: want to because I want to watch it and I

7:49 Speaker 1: want to talk a little bit about age of disclosure.

7:52 Speaker 1: But I think there's there is that misconception about how

7:56 Speaker 1: things are distributed. So again, there's a process to on

8:00 Speaker 1: the film. Uh and you fund So it's this film

8:04 Speaker 1: has been funded, it's been produced, it's been edited, like,

8:08 Speaker 1: it's paid for. Now what they're looking for is the

8:11 Speaker 1: company that's going to distribute it to the masses. And

8:16 Speaker 1: I think it's either going to go Apple or Amazon.

8:20 Speaker 1: People have thought Netflix. I don't think it's Netflix. I

8:23 Speaker 1: don't think Netflix is has them. Has that ready?

8:28 Speaker 2: Have you not seen what's been going on today? No? Okay,

8:33 Speaker 2: so we have a release date and an exclusivity with Prime.

8:38 Speaker 1: Oh oh shit.

8:41 Speaker 2: Yeah, so they've announced the exclusivity window with Prime, which

8:48 Speaker 2: it kind of sounded whoey. But then there's someone on

8:50 Speaker 2: the executive level that Amazon made a statement, not confirming it,

8:54 Speaker 2: but saying how excited there is corporate talk. So that's

8:57 Speaker 2: saying how excited they are to ring the film and

9:00 Speaker 2: broaden their platform whatever. Well it's not, that's not like

9:05 Speaker 2: glowing endorsement, but it's it's some kind of confirmation from

9:09 Speaker 2: the executive level of Prime Video. Okay, this that there

9:13 Speaker 2: is an exclusivity deal.

9:15 Speaker 1: Do you think that was the smartest move.

9:19 Speaker 2: I think it was the only move they could get.

9:21 Speaker 2: And you know it's been this long and he so

9:25 Speaker 2: Dan Farrer created his own distribution company in order to

9:29 Speaker 2: be able to get this onto Prime because you have

9:34 Speaker 2: to do it. So it was like two weeks ago,

9:37 Speaker 2: three weeks ago he made his own publishing company called

9:40 Speaker 2: Relentless Releasing Now and now there's an exclusivity deal with Amazon,

9:45 Speaker 2: which I think he made the company probably to be

9:48 Speaker 2: able to get this deal.

9:51 Speaker 1: That's the thing. So I actually, really I was more

9:55 Speaker 1: expecting it to go Apple. I swear I was. I

9:58 Speaker 1: was expecting because I figured it was going to have

10:00 Speaker 1: a big price tag on it. But the longer it waited,

10:04 Speaker 1: the more likely that again that price goes down, because

10:07 Speaker 1: I mean it is if they win any longer, like

10:11 Speaker 1: Stratton's book's gonna come out like the big peal of

10:14 Speaker 1: this is. You know, Stratton's in it, and he makes

10:16 Speaker 1: them you know, even in the trailer there was a

10:18 Speaker 1: pretty wild claim from Stratton himself saying, you know, I've

10:22 Speaker 1: seen the bodies now you can from what you know,

10:25 Speaker 1: from what I know, he doesn't really go far past that.

10:28 Speaker 1: And you know, from what Rogan has said and other

10:31 Speaker 1: content creators that were there at By Southwest, this movie

10:36 Speaker 1: isn't disclosure. But then you got guys like you know,

10:39 Speaker 1: Tim Burchett who says like, get Ready America, And I

10:42 Speaker 1: can't tell if that's him actually saying and endorsing like

10:45 Speaker 1: this is going to change the game, or if it

10:47 Speaker 1: just I'm in this. Get Ready.

10:50 Speaker 2: It's all the work, brother, This is just pare It's

10:56 Speaker 2: literally or just Pare. Well also like yes, excited, they

11:00 Speaker 2: want you to be excited, but they're going to say

11:01 Speaker 2: that anyway, So it's not really like it's an exciting

11:05 Speaker 2: statement to say, buckle up America.

11:08 Speaker 1: Okay, but interesting, interesting, Well I didn't.

11:13 Speaker 2: I do want to. I do want to. I want

11:14 Speaker 2: to comment highlight a comment from an old, an old

11:17 Speaker 2: Totty Wabs show fan called Enzo. I actually know Enzo

11:20 Speaker 2: in real life. He's saying that something I missed out,

11:25 Speaker 2: there's a limited theatrical release that is going is gonna

11:28 Speaker 2: enable it to be Oscar called it.

11:31 Speaker 1: That's what I was. Yeah, that's in my head. I'm

11:35 Speaker 1: going they want at least a limited release.

11:40 Speaker 2: Like twenty one days in three cities.

11:42 Speaker 1: I think. Yeah, that's why I said I don't think

11:45 Speaker 1: Netflix would be a contender because I don't think Netflix

11:48 Speaker 1: likes that model. Because you know, that's not true.

11:52 Speaker 2: I actually saw recently that they are. They're actually for

11:56 Speaker 2: the first time allowing a film to do like an

11:58 Speaker 2: exclusive theatrical run before coming to Netflix.

12:01 Speaker 1: Yeah, for the first time, you know what I mean.

12:03 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's at least of being open to it. It's

12:05 Speaker 2: not like it's outside the.

12:08 Speaker 1: I believe Amazon's done it multiple times, you know, so

12:10 Speaker 1: they're kind of like that they understand the reasoning why

12:14 Speaker 1: a filmmaker want to do it, but also having the

12:17 Speaker 1: east because like, at least I don't know many people

12:21 Speaker 1: who don't have a Prime membership, like whether it's shopping

12:26 Speaker 1: just for shopping and they have a Prime membership, Like

12:29 Speaker 1: everyone has Prime at least like a lot of people,

12:34 Speaker 1: a lot of people I know, and a lot of

12:36 Speaker 1: people in the market that I know have Amazon Prime,

12:39 Speaker 1: Like it's it's a thing that everybody has, especially after

12:42 Speaker 1: the pandemic days. So I thought it would be Like

12:45 Speaker 1: I said, I thought Amazon and Apple I didn't know

12:49 Speaker 1: is actually confirmed? So what what's it?

12:52 Speaker 3: Was?

12:52 Speaker 1: The date November twenty four.

12:53 Speaker 2: So I have I have the article? Should just pull

12:55 Speaker 2: up the article? Yeah, okay, do share this.

13:00 Speaker 1: Time said it's a bold move. Con it is. It

13:07 Speaker 1: is a bold view, So get the spanner out of

13:10 Speaker 1: the way.

13:11 Speaker 2: The Age of Disclosure, an explosive documentary that makes a

13:14 Speaker 2: strong case for the existence of non human intelligent life

13:17 Speaker 2: unidentified the anomalous phenomena of visiting our planet, will get

13:20 Speaker 2: a robust Oscar qualifying run and worldwide release on Prime video.

13:26 Speaker 2: Film directed by Dan Farrer, will be released theatrically on

13:30 Speaker 2: November twenty first in York City, not New York City

13:34 Speaker 2: and York City, Los Angeles, Washington, DC, and stream the

13:38 Speaker 2: same day on Prime video. And it's also gonna I guess,

13:42 Speaker 2: like what was it? Did you say? How many how

13:47 Speaker 2: many days? How many days does the film have to

13:49 Speaker 2: be in theaters to qualify someone in the chat find

13:53 Speaker 2: I think it.

13:54 Speaker 1: Would have to be at least at least a fourteen

13:57 Speaker 1: to twenty one day run.

13:59 Speaker 2: I'd say twenty one days.

14:01 Speaker 1: Yeah, that sounds right, That sounds about right.

14:04 Speaker 2: She takes them up to Christmas, and then they would

14:06 Speaker 2: cinemas are closed over Christmas anyway?

14:09 Speaker 1: Not here? Oh yeah, it's like you guys, to.

14:13 Speaker 2: Be fair, they just closed. They just close the cinemas here.

14:17 Speaker 2: So like, seriously, I I don't have a local cinema anymore.

14:21 Speaker 2: I can't go to the films. That's insane, sucks. Like

14:24 Speaker 2: the closest one is like a thirty five minute ride.

14:29 Speaker 1: Interesting. Interesting, well you know here, like it's like a

14:33 Speaker 1: kind of it's funny you say, because it's like a

14:35 Speaker 1: tradition for my family we go to the movies.

14:37 Speaker 2: On Christmas, Like because I mean they probably are they

14:41 Speaker 2: probably are just I just don't think of them as open.

14:44 Speaker 1: Yeah, Star Wars like always since the Force the way

14:47 Speaker 1: bar Wars has been doing Christmas releases. But yeah, so

14:51 Speaker 1: pull that the pull that trailer wrap. Let's let's give

14:53 Speaker 1: it a whole watch of Rooty.

14:55 Speaker 2: Yes Shore this time instead. All right? Are we are we? So?

15:02 Speaker 2: Are we fair using this?

15:04 Speaker 4: Yeah?

15:04 Speaker 2: So we have to stop every twenty seconds and talk about.

15:06 Speaker 1: No, no, no go if they if they tag it, I'll

15:10 Speaker 1: I'll clip it out.

15:12 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, we'll lose the we'll lose the life

15:15 Speaker 2: chot or whatever. All right, I'm hitting play.

15:22 Speaker 5: I've had repeated instances of something operating in the airspace

15:26 Speaker 5: over restricted nuclear facilities, and it's not ours.

15:29 Speaker 2: These are other worldly things that are performing maneuvers that

15:33 Speaker 2: haven't been seen.

15:38 Speaker 1: Save videos.

15:38 Speaker 2: I have seen it in my own eyes, non human

15:41 Speaker 2: craft and non human beings. This is so secret.

15:47 Speaker 3: There have been very few people in our entire government

15:50 Speaker 3: that have been allowed or provided access to it.

15:54 Speaker 5: Even presidents have been operating on a need to know basis.

15:58 Speaker 5: But that begins to ramp out of control.

16:01 Speaker 1: It's not acceptable to have secret parts of government that

16:04 Speaker 1: no one ever sees. People have been hurt protecting and

16:08 Speaker 1: hiding this information.

16:09 Speaker 5: Some people claim it would cost them their lives, and

16:11 Speaker 5: they spoke out about these things.

16:14 Speaker 3: You had information being locked away that could change the

16:18 Speaker 3: trajectory for species.

16:34 Speaker 5: This is the biggest discovery in human history.

16:42 Speaker 1: How many takes for that one? All right, dude, I mean,

16:51 Speaker 1: I'll say this, the cinematography in it, the editing style,

16:57 Speaker 1: the kind of official nature that it that it does have. Yeah,

17:05 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it. It feels like it's going to

17:10 Speaker 1: be monumental. However, I just I don't think that that

17:17 Speaker 1: any film. I mean, here's what Here's the scenario I

17:20 Speaker 1: could see, right, is this movie debuts and then so

17:27 Speaker 1: it's through word of mouth, the buzz gets like deafening.

17:36 Speaker 1: General public interest is at a fever pitch. Right, Atlas

17:41 Speaker 1: is coming in. People are talking about Atlas a velobes

17:44 Speaker 1: on every news channel that will literally air him. You know,

17:50 Speaker 1: everyone's talking Aliens. Spielberg's making this new disclosure uh movie,

17:56 Speaker 1: which I've heard I can't say, you know, I'm not

17:59 Speaker 1: afraid to say it. I've heard from my own back

18:02 Speaker 1: channels in Hollywood that the new Spielberg movie is going

18:06 Speaker 1: to be set in the same world as Close Encounters

18:10 Speaker 1: of the Third kind. It's going to be called Disclosure,

18:13 Speaker 1: set in the world after the moment and after the

18:18 Speaker 1: events of Close Encounters that the third All right, so

18:21 Speaker 1: it's going to be a post disclosure film. Does that?

18:24 Speaker 1: Does that make sense?

18:26 Speaker 2: That's actually I feel like that's like the only place

18:30 Speaker 2: that Spielberg could really take it. He's done the he's

18:33 Speaker 2: done the Benevolent One, he's done et he's done Word

18:35 Speaker 2: of the World. It's like, yep, So that makes a

18:38 Speaker 2: lot of sense with actually with reports I heard where

18:43 Speaker 2: there was a nun who's in who you know, lives

18:45 Speaker 2: in a church or a monastery. Spielberg's film was filming there.

18:50 Speaker 2: They were filming, so obviously it's going to touch on

18:52 Speaker 2: religion and stuff. So that actually does tie in to that.

18:56 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, So I wouldn't be surprised if that

19:01 Speaker 1: because now when that got there's a bunch of headlines

19:06 Speaker 1: for it. When it got it came out and like

19:09 Speaker 1: Luna was sharing it and was like, you know, Disclosures coming,

19:13 Speaker 1: and you know she's you just got to ask yourself

19:16 Speaker 1: like why why? And I think there is this notion

19:20 Speaker 1: that you know, the UFO world is kind of always

19:23 Speaker 1: known or at least talked about that. Lawmakers and policymakers

19:29 Speaker 1: and you know, people in the government and military. You know,

19:32 Speaker 1: they do talk to Hollywood and they do exchange information,

19:39 Speaker 1: and you know, by virtuous of association, some of that

19:43 Speaker 1: stuff ends up in the films you go see, and

19:46 Speaker 1: you know, whether you want to call that propaganda or

19:48 Speaker 1: you know, slipping in the truth. You know, a lot

19:50 Speaker 1: of sci fi I think has been riddled with these.

19:53 Speaker 2: Little sci fi I mean zero Doc thirty had a

19:58 Speaker 2: lot of details of the assassinate Osama bin Laden which

20:01 Speaker 2: when not public, and that movie got Catherine Bigelow in

20:04 Speaker 2: quite a bit of trouble, Yeah, because she included so

20:07 Speaker 2: much like real world detail that Yeah, watching it, you

20:12 Speaker 2: wouldn't know that that's actually, like really what happened, but

20:16 Speaker 2: it is. And it pissed the people off who were

20:18 Speaker 2: supposed to keep that secret.

20:19 Speaker 1: So, yeah, did that. That woman that it's based on,

20:24 Speaker 1: they still don't know who it is. They still no

20:27 Speaker 1: one knows who that woman is.

20:28 Speaker 2: And it's not one woman, it's it's a there's a documentary.

20:33 Speaker 2: There's a group of there was a group of women

20:35 Speaker 2: in size.

20:36 Speaker 1: Like a group of analysts that just a group of

20:38 Speaker 1: group of analysts woke up every day and literally woke

20:43 Speaker 1: up every day and breathed and lived like uh.

20:49 Speaker 2: Like Jessicatin's character is an amalgamation of these analysts. It's

20:54 Speaker 2: it's like an analogue. It's just a compilation of different

20:59 Speaker 2: different storybits put into a character. Because obviously you can't

21:03 Speaker 2: have if you want to center the movie around someone,

21:05 Speaker 2: you can't have it be an entire team because then

21:07 Speaker 2: it gets too big in scope with everything else to do.

21:09 Speaker 2: So they slim it down to just one character who's

21:12 Speaker 2: like the Mary Sue of the intelligence world, who can oh,

21:15 Speaker 2: I know where our summer is? And Jason Clark's like, okay.

21:22 Speaker 1: You know, I'll say I'll say this. I just stuttered

21:26 Speaker 1: like a real hard Uh. You know if if if

21:32 Speaker 1: interviews that I conduct here in studio aren't always going

21:36 Speaker 1: to be UFO like disclosure base, I do want to

21:40 Speaker 1: do some like military and for like, uh, if anyone

21:44 Speaker 1: watches Julian Dorry or like Danny Jones, they have a

21:48 Speaker 1: lot of military like x C I A x x FBI,

21:53 Speaker 1: I do want to have some of those conversations. And

21:56 Speaker 1: because I do find spycraft very interesting thing. So it's

22:02 Speaker 1: it's something I do want to branch out into. But

22:04 Speaker 1: it's also an easy way to kind of go back

22:07 Speaker 1: into disclosure because UFOs is such UFOs and UAPs and

22:12 Speaker 1: you know, arguably even the paranormal and consciousness more consciousness

22:16 Speaker 1: based stuff. You know, those people tend to be interested

22:19 Speaker 1: in that kind of topic. So I think it's an

22:22 Speaker 1: easy bridge to gap. And I bring it up because

22:28 Speaker 1: this movie, this Age of Disclosure movie is touting that

22:30 Speaker 1: has thirty four you know, a military government officials now

22:37 Speaker 1: scrap off the top, as gonna say, scrape off the

22:42 Speaker 1: top like Birchet, you know, probably Luna Mace and then Elizondo,

22:48 Speaker 1: Jase Stratt, like everyone that we see in the trailer

22:51 Speaker 1: scratch them out. That still leaves a good amount of

22:54 Speaker 1: people that we don't know, like.

22:55 Speaker 2: At least twenty people, right, I mean, so who could

23:00 Speaker 2: that conceive it?

23:02 Speaker 1: My question to the audience and to you, Sidy. You know,

23:08 Speaker 1: the scenario I pitched is you know, it's spreading word

23:11 Speaker 1: of mouth, you know, combining with good timing. Maybe the

23:14 Speaker 1: timing was I don't know, essential uh, you know, I

23:18 Speaker 1: don't know, maybe that was do you think you can

23:23 Speaker 1: move the needle.

23:26 Speaker 2: Here's my counter question, which we'll answer your question. Do

23:29 Speaker 2: you think that if the movie was immediately picked up

23:32 Speaker 2: itself by Southwest, the UAP Disclosure Act would have passed?

23:43 Speaker 2: Because releasing it after it's failed for the fourth time

23:45 Speaker 2: just seems kind of like.

23:47 Speaker 1: That's a good ques, you know what, that's a good question.

23:52 Speaker 1: That is a good question. Whow Okay, don't don't want

24:00 Speaker 1: to go there. I don't know. I don't I don't know.

24:02 Speaker 1: I'd hate to suggests. I I'd hate to suggest anything

24:07 Speaker 1: or get anyone upset or mad in this context because

24:12 Speaker 1: I think the UAP Disclosure Act it's interesting when you

24:19 Speaker 1: start looking at it, and you start looking at you know,

24:21 Speaker 1: who publicly is willing to talk about it, but then

24:24 Speaker 1: when it really comes time to you know, kind of

24:27 Speaker 1: slam the gavel down, if you will, who don't do it?

24:31 Speaker 1: They're also the same people that, like when the Epstein

24:34 Speaker 1: vote goes out, right, like only only two Republicans voted

24:41 Speaker 1: to release the Epstein files.

24:44 Speaker 2: As a non American, what the is going on? What

24:49 Speaker 2: you guys? Okay, do you need a hug? Like?

24:52 Speaker 1: What's going on? Is going on?

24:55 Speaker 2: Like you guys, you look, you look schizophrenic as a

24:58 Speaker 2: nation when when you do this ship and we when

25:01 Speaker 2: the whole world's kind of watching you, guys look insane,

25:04 Speaker 2: and it's like that would never happen here. Yeah, well okay,

25:08 Speaker 2: maybe in the UK it probably would happen, but like

25:11 Speaker 2: other civilized societies much matter, I think it would happen.

25:16 Speaker 1: But yeah, it does it. But that's why. And you

25:19 Speaker 1: know what, this is a little bit of a segue here.

25:22 Speaker 1: I saw that you thought and and listen, it's cool,

25:25 Speaker 1: Like just remember, it's cool. Right, We're good. I've found

25:31 Speaker 1: a you know, about to go in on you. That's

25:34 Speaker 1: what I've That's what that means. So you called out

25:39 Speaker 1: a guy that I have been really fascinated with lately, Yes,

25:44 Speaker 1: and I have been. I think he's the only now,

25:48 Speaker 1: given whatever you're about to say, given whatever intro, you know, whatever.

25:56 Speaker 2: I'm trying to stay come.

25:59 Speaker 1: Whatever company he's kept in the past, I think Jason

26:03 Speaker 1: does have a very good kind of foundational look at

26:10 Speaker 1: the UFO phenomena. He really and this is something I've

26:13 Speaker 1: been saying, and I guess it's maybe the reason I

26:17 Speaker 1: like him so much right now is because when listening

26:20 Speaker 1: to him, He's bringing up a lot of points that

26:23 Speaker 1: have raised for so long, like that, what are the

26:26 Speaker 1: chances that the guys that are running or the people

26:28 Speaker 1: that I should say the deep state quote unquote, that

26:31 Speaker 1: are running these Epstein's and Ditties of the world are

26:35 Speaker 1: what are the chances that are those aren't the same

26:38 Speaker 1: people that are keeping this technology secret and hiding it

26:43 Speaker 1: from the public and you know, going around and making

26:46 Speaker 1: sure that certain politicians vote in certain ways. Right. UAPDA

26:51 Speaker 1: does in fact come up Why is the Ohio congressman

26:56 Speaker 1: the biggest challenge when it comes to passing anything with

27:00 Speaker 1: the uap related Because because, yes, because of private aerospace

27:06 Speaker 1: and the ability for lobbying campaigns and all these donors

27:12 Speaker 1: to basically influence like the the whole fucking system is broken.

27:18 Speaker 1: It's so broken. And Georgiohnny's bringing up a lot of

27:21 Speaker 1: good points about why, Like, listen, you know, I think

27:24 Speaker 1: these are the same people, and he's not afraid to

27:26 Speaker 1: go in those dark corners and am I saying everyone's perfect? No,

27:31 Speaker 1: far from it, But he raises a very valid point

27:34 Speaker 1: about how a lot of these early like the Adamskis

27:38 Speaker 1: and how they really had cia handlers, and why have

27:43 Speaker 1: we been fed this Nordics and you know archetypal alien

27:47 Speaker 1: grays like angel looking beings, and then what you would

27:53 Speaker 1: considered to be a demon looking being, something that has

27:56 Speaker 1: no soul? Right that that that's.

27:59 Speaker 2: The biggest I think I answer that question.

28:03 Speaker 1: But you see what I'm going like, Georgiohnny is talking

28:07 Speaker 1: about a lot of things that I've been asking about,

28:09 Speaker 1: like why did we shed our fur only need to

28:12 Speaker 1: need pelts in the winter. Why is our biological clock

28:16 Speaker 1: more tuned to Mars than it is to Earth?

28:19 Speaker 2: Why are we the oil We're so our biological clocks

28:26 Speaker 2: are not in tune with the Earth? Are and chowne

28:28 Speaker 2: with Mars?

28:29 Speaker 1: Yeah, our actual biological clock is more attuned to the

28:33 Speaker 1: Martian day than it is to the Earth.

28:36 Speaker 2: What qualitative data are people using to make that?

28:41 Speaker 1: It's that compounded with many other things, like the fact

28:45 Speaker 1: that we think, you know, we could be planet hopping

28:49 Speaker 1: and we find the chemical the zion one the big

28:53 Speaker 1: scar across Mars, Like there's a we we could have

28:57 Speaker 1: been of you know, not of Earth originally, but of Mars,

29:03 Speaker 1: and we'd planted hopped here after some sort of cataclysm.

29:07 Speaker 1: So he's kind of drawing lines and he is making

29:11 Speaker 1: some assumptions and speculation, but he makes it clear when

29:14 Speaker 1: he's speculating. Okay, why was that? Why were the Nazis

29:19 Speaker 1: so obsessed with the Aryan race? The white blonde haired person?

29:26 Speaker 1: Why is why? Why is Epstein? Why is it that

29:29 Speaker 1: they were interested in like Julane Maxwell, all of her handlers,

29:36 Speaker 1: like her boys that she would keep. They were all

29:38 Speaker 1: of Swedish descent, and like there's one of them that

29:41 Speaker 1: talks about it about how he would shower and Glene

29:44 Speaker 1: Mack like he would shower in the in the house

29:47 Speaker 1: and like, you know how your hair goes into the drain,

29:49 Speaker 1: Like his hair would be missing from the drain when

29:51 Speaker 1: he got home, and you, like you start asking these questions.

29:55 Speaker 1: I'm just saying that might be very very I just

30:00 Speaker 1: might have dropped so much.

30:02 Speaker 2: But where do I even start with that?

30:08 Speaker 1: All right, well, let's rock it back to starting with

30:11 Speaker 1: Georgianni just in general.

30:13 Speaker 2: Okay, just for context, So I have you know, I

30:18 Speaker 2: have to go through the context of why you're you're

30:21 Speaker 2: you're putting to georgiourney to me because of what I said,

30:25 Speaker 2: I pointed out correctly that about eight years ago, he

30:29 Speaker 2: worked with Richard Spencer, the Neo NATI, to try and

30:32 Speaker 2: take over and announce ownership of the alt right, which

30:38 Speaker 2: he then since says he walked away and it was

30:40 Speaker 2: a big mistake. I think it backfired pr wise. I

30:44 Speaker 2: think that's what happened, honestly. And then I had a

30:47 Speaker 2: couple of years ago I looked into him and I

30:49 Speaker 2: read he's got like this manifesto called Prometheism, which is

30:53 Speaker 2: just it wouldn't be out of place on Guya dot com, just.

30:57 Speaker 1: Saying, Okay, I think that's fair. That's fair.

31:00 Speaker 2: So my my main problem though, is the creeping fascism

31:05 Speaker 2: people like that you've got. You've got to keep an

31:07 Speaker 2: eye on them and check them.

31:09 Speaker 1: But he's I see, I don't understand where you're coming

31:12 Speaker 1: from on this because he's on these shows talking and

31:19 Speaker 1: bringing it to light that we are being fed this this.

31:24 Speaker 2: I mean, honest, I don't listen to shows because he

31:28 Speaker 2: worked with Richard Spencer, the Neo Nazi, Like this automatic

31:33 Speaker 2: I'm not clicking that video because I know that that

31:35 Speaker 2: guy worked with the Neo Nazi, Like why would why

31:37 Speaker 2: would I do that?

31:39 Speaker 1: I will say this, it was very interesting. In his

31:42 Speaker 1: most recent appearance on Jesse Michaels that the entire No,

31:46 Speaker 1: I don't know whose choice this was, who's set design

31:50 Speaker 1: this was inspired by I'm assuming it was set up

31:52 Speaker 1: by Jesse and his team, But it was like all

31:56 Speaker 1: white and like gave really like a weird heavy vibe.

32:00 Speaker 1: Like there was this like carpet that was only there

32:03 Speaker 1: for camera depth that you could tell, but it was

32:05 Speaker 1: also white on the ta. Now I'm not sure if

32:08 Speaker 1: it was just like I said said, no, this was

32:13 Speaker 1: a very new looking like not not the regular.

32:16 Speaker 2: Jesse Michael house.

32:20 Speaker 1: There's no way, dude, go look at the video. It's

32:23 Speaker 1: it is odd that it's filmed that way. But again

32:26 Speaker 1: I don't think that's Georgiohnny himself making that decision because

32:29 Speaker 1: it's for American Alchemy and Jesse Michaels. It was just weird.

32:32 Speaker 1: It was hard to watch because it's just constant whiteness.

32:36 Speaker 1: Like the whole background, there's no nothing, no thing, literally

32:40 Speaker 1: it's just white. It looks like that movie that that

32:43 Speaker 1: like remember when in the in the Matrix when like

32:47 Speaker 1: the guns are about to come, like that white emptiness,

32:51 Speaker 1: And that's what it felt like. But Georgiohnny, I think

32:55 Speaker 1: it is. I think, you know, if he would, if

32:58 Speaker 1: he agrees, like I, I'm going to bring him to

33:01 Speaker 1: the studio. I want to talk to him. I don't think.

33:05 Speaker 2: I'm not saying that he should be canceled. My point was,

33:10 Speaker 2: I don't I mean, I don't watch this stuff, but

33:12 Speaker 2: I haven't seen anybody else talking about it, so I

33:14 Speaker 2: assume it hasn't been brought up. No, I don't see

33:17 Speaker 2: anybody checking him on this, Like he's talking all of

33:20 Speaker 2: this subject all the subjects he talks about, these are

33:22 Speaker 2: all things that have come from this ideology called Prometheism

33:28 Speaker 2: that he carries. So it's like interrogating the ideas without

33:31 Speaker 2: looking at the underlying like ideology and philosophy there. That's

33:36 Speaker 2: one level, but there's also unless someone can it can

33:40 Speaker 2: time code and send it to me because I don't

33:42 Speaker 2: have time to sit and watch eight episodes or whatever.

33:46 Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't think anybody's checked him and gone, hey,

33:51 Speaker 2: like eight years ago, you were literally trying to take

33:53 Speaker 2: over the right, So like, what's going on, buddy, Okay,

33:57 Speaker 2: that's all I want. I'm not saying, like, cancel him

33:59 Speaker 2: and talk to him or anything like that. But I

34:01 Speaker 2: think he should be interrogated on this stuff.

34:04 Speaker 1: And can't use that word. Though you cannot use that.

34:07 Speaker 2: You can interrogate. I interrogate and interrogate ideas, interrogating events

34:11 Speaker 2: that happened. All right, I see, I don't mean. I

34:15 Speaker 2: don't mean it in like the I think that there

34:18 Speaker 2: is a negative connotation or outcome to it, but I'm

34:21 Speaker 2: interrogating the idea of that. It's it's it's an English

34:26 Speaker 2: way of saying.

34:27 Speaker 1: Okay, well, okay here when you say interrogate, I I want.

34:33 Speaker 2: To be clear. I'm not saying like he has done

34:35 Speaker 2: anything wrong or.

34:36 Speaker 1: Okay, so you know, anything like that. But you know,

34:40 Speaker 1: given that, I think there are many, many, many individuals

34:47 Speaker 1: in the UFO community that you could arguably pull up

34:51 Speaker 1: something not similar but like.

34:56 Speaker 2: Not as egregious. But I mean, yeah, and I think

34:59 Speaker 2: a lot of those people. I wouldn't consider myself like

35:04 Speaker 2: a leftist.

35:05 Speaker 1: But I don't even see the connection that you're like,

35:09 Speaker 1: I don't.

35:10 Speaker 2: There is a lot of connections between the fascist right

35:15 Speaker 2: and euthology. There's a lot of linkage through the New

35:19 Speaker 2: Age world and like the real society and oh, Germany

35:23 Speaker 2: had secret space programs, and they're making diaglogue, you know,

35:27 Speaker 2: all mythology that came from the seventies from neo Nazi groups.

35:33 Speaker 1: I see where you're going with this.

35:34 Speaker 2: So if you actually trace the history of a lot

35:36 Speaker 2: of this stuff back, a lot of this kind German

35:40 Speaker 2: ideal ideation of trying to make the Nazis look like

35:45 Speaker 2: they were more successful, it's almost like it's a response

35:47 Speaker 2: to the American exceptionalism that drove this whiteness of the

35:51 Speaker 2: Nordics and all of this, all of these alien races

35:54 Speaker 2: that came back in the fifties when America was a

35:55 Speaker 2: very white Christian nation in a Cold War looking to

35:59 Speaker 2: have a marketing age over its enemy. That's why they

36:01 Speaker 2: had spacemen in flying sauces and all of this stuff.

36:05 Speaker 1: Valiant Thor, right.

36:07 Speaker 2: Valiant Thor is literally like a comic, a real life

36:12 Speaker 2: comic book character to promote American exceptionalism and white America essentially.

36:18 Speaker 1: But then they're like, okay, but by the same token,

36:24 Speaker 1: people like why why are we not asking questions? Who's

36:28 Speaker 1: the guy that built the the what?

36:34 Speaker 2: Echo is making a very very good point. It's called

36:36 Speaker 2: the new age to alt right pipeline and there's books

36:38 Speaker 2: about it. Oh well, so if you get stuck, if

36:43 Speaker 2: you get stuck in to the New Age world like Gia,

36:45 Speaker 2: Gia is a massive pipeline to being exposed to like eugenics,

36:50 Speaker 2: stuff like the ancient Aliens, anunarchy, all of this stuff

36:55 Speaker 2: is like white centric.

36:59 Speaker 1: What are you talking The Annaki comes from the Sumerian tablets.

37:05 Speaker 1: That's like from the cradle of civilization. They're clearly not white, right,

37:11 Speaker 1: that's clearly I don't see how that gets thrown in there.

37:16 Speaker 2: I mean, maybe not white.

37:17 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean I think that's like.

37:20 Speaker 2: The Nordics, like the My main point here is the

37:23 Speaker 2: early alien races, especially the ones that you brought up

37:26 Speaker 2: as Jason bringing up these questions. I've thought about those

37:29 Speaker 2: questions too, and it's it's not like a profound thing,

37:33 Speaker 2: it's it was literally just white Christian America. As Christianity

37:38 Speaker 2: was waning, sci fi went on the rise because people

37:40 Speaker 2: weren't afraid to kind of go outside tenets of Christianity

37:43 Speaker 2: to find entertainment and whatever. And at the same time,

37:46 Speaker 2: you're in the Cold War of Russia that wants to

37:48 Speaker 2: promote American exceptionalism through marketing. And at the same time,

37:51 Speaker 2: you've got sci fi going everywhere, so you mix and

37:57 Speaker 2: you're right, you mix all those in the part and

37:58 Speaker 2: you get white savior aliens. That's why I keep saying

38:02 Speaker 2: they're very white, because they are. They're white. It's almost

38:06 Speaker 2: the same as like the Aryan genetic thing. But that's

38:10 Speaker 2: where that's where the linkage comes in. Is because the

38:13 Speaker 2: the the whiteness of like the Nordics. That's why, like

38:17 Speaker 2: the neo Nazi movement has kind of stolen the idea

38:23 Speaker 2: of like the Galactic Federation and the Nordics and and

38:26 Speaker 2: and from the New Age because it's similar. Look if

38:31 Speaker 2: you get.

38:31 Speaker 1: What I mean, Okay, Okay, here's my thing. Okay, what

38:36 Speaker 1: if what like what if it were like why were

38:43 Speaker 1: the Nazis so fixated on blonde haired, blue eyed people

38:48 Speaker 1: and that that you know, we that build and type

38:53 Speaker 1: of person like you know.

38:56 Speaker 2: Why type of person was not Jewish.

39:01 Speaker 1: Specifically, like why why would you want to eliminate? Like

39:06 Speaker 1: I feel like what the at least what I'm getting

39:09 Speaker 1: out of what Georgianni is saying right is is he's

39:12 Speaker 1: he's pointing at it and saying, why are these why

39:15 Speaker 1: do they want like, why is that seemingly what we've

39:18 Speaker 1: been told for so long is that there's these angeled

39:23 Speaker 1: Like he's he's pointing it out. I can't see why

39:25 Speaker 1: he would be promoting it at Like he seems to

39:28 Speaker 1: be the one that at least now is calling it.

39:30 Speaker 2: Out because Okay, that's that's good.

39:33 Speaker 1: He's he's brought that to my attention, right, that this

39:36 Speaker 1: whole the idea that there's the two races and that

39:39 Speaker 1: one is the other, one is angels, one is demons,

39:42 Speaker 1: and I mean, I.

39:43 Speaker 2: Mean I haven't heard it described like that. I heard

39:47 Speaker 2: the New Age has a lot more races going on, right,

39:51 Speaker 2: It's not just this good bad dichotomy's.

39:53 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah.

39:54 Speaker 2: This is where the whole idea of the Galactic Federation

39:56 Speaker 2: comes from, is that there's there's like twenty seven different

39:59 Speaker 2: species and they're all there's a little different law and

40:02 Speaker 2: whatever going on, none of it.

40:06 Speaker 1: Yeah, I I that I didn't want to spin that out,

40:10 Speaker 1: but I do think there are like a lot of

40:14 Speaker 1: things that that that do fascinate me in the terms

40:18 Speaker 1: of like what's that, what's that thing that I went

40:21 Speaker 1: to it? Oh God, I can't even remember it was

40:24 Speaker 1: built at like in near Palm Springs, it was in

40:27 Speaker 1: it's in California. It's that it was supposed to be

40:29 Speaker 1: a UFO integer chon, thank you who it was.

40:33 Speaker 2: It wasn't a U. It was a healing that's right, right,

40:35 Speaker 2: right right.

40:37 Speaker 1: But that guy literally was a Nazi sympathizer. Like he

40:44 Speaker 1: he had his didn't he have like people his family

40:49 Speaker 1: living under a rock of of a known Nazi sympathizer

40:54 Speaker 1: who ended up blowing himself up and blew his brains

40:57 Speaker 1: all over the wall of this wint Stones ask house

41:01 Speaker 1: that he had his family in. And then George Fantasal

41:04 Speaker 1: buys the place, puts his family in there and starts

41:07 Speaker 1: building the integratron, and then him and a Dabsky are

41:10 Speaker 1: are They both seemingly have these intelligence connections, one having

41:17 Speaker 1: a CIA handler and the other, you know, being some

41:20 Speaker 1: sort of like you know.

41:21 Speaker 2: You're interesting. Giant Rock wasn't airport like you need like

41:30 Speaker 2: back then like now, it's just it's just a plot

41:33 Speaker 2: of land. You can drive up and see the rock

41:34 Speaker 2: that you lived on. But back then so ridiculous where

41:38 Speaker 2: they held the the the UFO, I mean literally literally

41:46 Speaker 2: literally the rock he lived on in fact, I'm going

41:48 Speaker 2: to get some photos to illustrate what I'm talking about.

41:51 Speaker 2: Nineteen fifty three. Sorry it's very loud.

41:55 Speaker 1: But so Georgianni is, So I'm gonna mute you for

42:00 Speaker 1: a second while you type like a my coworker, God,

42:05 Speaker 1: my coworker types. She like has one of those keyboards

42:08 Speaker 1: that's meant to click. It drives me crazy, like I

42:13 Speaker 1: have to go in the other room. It's wild. So

42:17 Speaker 1: what's your point with all this?

42:19 Speaker 2: So I just wanted to illustrate. So back then, here's

42:22 Speaker 2: the rock, Here's where he lived under the rock.

42:26 Speaker 1: And so you know what Nazi sympathizer blew himself up

42:30 Speaker 1: in that rock? Right?

42:32 Speaker 2: I did not know that. I probably I probably did,

42:35 Speaker 2: but it was it's not like super important to the

42:37 Speaker 2: idea of what when I was. It wasn't important to

42:40 Speaker 2: what I was doing.

42:41 Speaker 1: But but yeah, so Georgianni is bringing that up, saying,

42:46 Speaker 1: you know why is is?

42:49 Speaker 2: This is what I was going to say in response

42:51 Speaker 2: to that. I find this is why I bring up

42:53 Speaker 2: the fact it was an airport. Back then, you had

42:58 Speaker 2: like a fledgling intelligence service, and you've got a guy

43:01 Speaker 2: with a very private airfield out in the desert's perfect.

43:07 Speaker 2: It's very useful, right, that's very useful. That guy starts

43:11 Speaker 2: pushing stories that it inevitably pushed the idea of white

43:20 Speaker 2: savior aliens and I guess American exceptionalism because he's the

43:26 Speaker 2: one having contact now, so the the split between him

43:31 Speaker 2: and Roger what's his face? It's in the beginning of

43:36 Speaker 2: the documentary. I made a Darcy wear I honestly can't remember.

43:39 Speaker 1: Which for anyone doesn't know, it's a Dark Alliance available

43:43 Speaker 1: anywhere you get your films, Amazon, Apple, all those places

43:49 Speaker 1: by it.

43:50 Speaker 2: Now, that was a fantastic promoter.

43:54 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll take that check.

43:56 Speaker 2: So he he he ended up having like a big

43:59 Speaker 2: sp lit with this guy. And this is where the

44:02 Speaker 2: Ashtark command comes from. So Ashtark command was actually I know,

44:06 Speaker 2: we were kind of off track of Georgiohnny book.

44:10 Speaker 1: No, it's actually all along the same So.

44:15 Speaker 2: I actually this is why a bookended Dark Alliance one

44:18 Speaker 2: with this story when when I was writing. Because the

44:23 Speaker 2: idea of like ownership over contact narratives is something that

44:28 Speaker 2: that film investigates with Corey Good and David Wilcock, especially

44:31 Speaker 2: Corey Good and his his want to trademark Space Program,

44:37 Speaker 2: the Secret Space all this stuff. So back then Van

44:41 Speaker 2: Tassell had a friend who was like, he was publishing

44:44 Speaker 2: like Interplanetary Weekly, which was a publication.

44:48 Speaker 1: And probably under mocking Bird this is another thing.

44:53 Speaker 2: But he he wanted to he wanted to like monetize it.

44:58 Speaker 2: He wanted to push it out to the masses. He

45:00 Speaker 2: wanted big billboards. And Van Tassel was more like, no,

45:03 Speaker 2: I think we should just keep it more humble, like

45:05 Speaker 2: it's about introspection and connection like and that split is

45:09 Speaker 2: how it's basically this this this other.

45:12 Speaker 1: Guy Roger Eger. No, I can't I can't remember I

45:16 Speaker 1: can't I remember the last name.

45:19 Speaker 4: Anyway anyway, so he he, he goes off and creates

45:25 Speaker 4: Ashtark Command, and then Van Tassel had to release a

45:27 Speaker 4: big statement saying this Ashtark command has nothing to do

45:31 Speaker 4: with my own ashtar, which again is an echo of

45:33 Speaker 4: Corey good saying I'm the only person that can have

45:35 Speaker 4: contact with these beings.

45:37 Speaker 1: Which is so can we can? Can I bookend here

45:41 Speaker 1: that Corey is such he is so greedy, that he's

45:45 Speaker 1: so stupid, because dude, when someone comes up and says, hey, dude,

45:51 Speaker 1: I was in the Secret space program to twenty year back,

45:53 Speaker 1: fucking Urah dude, you embrace that instead this fucking idiot

46:00 Speaker 1: like can't even look the guy in the eye right,

46:04 Speaker 1: Like it's so weird, Like, ah, dude, it drives me insane,

46:07 Speaker 1: how stupid and greedy he is. Like you should have

46:10 Speaker 1: leaned it. If you were really trying to sell this,

46:13 Speaker 1: you should have leaned in, and you should have said, yeah,

46:15 Speaker 1: you were in fucking twenty and back. This is fucking great,

46:20 Speaker 1: we have another witness. Let's lie together.

46:23 Speaker 2: What yes, if your primary motivation wasn't the ultimate ownership

46:28 Speaker 2: of that narrative, which that was his plan the whole time, allegedly, But.

46:34 Speaker 1: Then it's worth the thing. You see what I'm see

46:36 Speaker 1: him going though, Like if it ultimately comes out that

46:39 Speaker 1: it's his intellectual property and no one else could possibly

46:42 Speaker 1: be involved, Well, yet he cites other people being involved.

46:45 Speaker 2: Right, but if he if he allowed other people to

46:48 Speaker 2: use his IP and it came out that they made

46:50 Speaker 2: it up again put him at risk. So I get it.

46:55 Speaker 2: It's stupid. I get it. And if you're trying to

46:58 Speaker 2: protect an IP, it makes sense if you're trying to

47:03 Speaker 2: get your story out there, because it's true then yeah,

47:06 Speaker 2: obviously you'd embrace it, you'd be you'd own it and

47:10 Speaker 2: be looking for other people. There was a moment early

47:13 Speaker 2: on in Cosmic Disclosure where he said, eventually I want

47:15 Speaker 2: other people to be coming out and talking about their

47:17 Speaker 2: own contact with these beings, and then when they did,

47:20 Speaker 2: he like ruined their careers or you know, like Jason

47:23 Speaker 2: Rice literally lost his job at NASA for to bew

47:26 Speaker 2: Like whether it's true or not, I doubt, but they

47:30 Speaker 2: brigaded the fact he spoke out on Gaya, and then

47:34 Speaker 2: guy Corey and his group allegedly went to NASA and

47:38 Speaker 2: brigaded them until they quietly let Jason go. And Jason

47:42 Speaker 2: has only been seen like a handful of time since.

47:44 Speaker 2: Really yeah, he pops up at conferences every now and

47:47 Speaker 2: then it's like, oh shit, that's Jason.

47:50 Speaker 1: Right, So that part of it had always seemed very,

47:53 Speaker 1: very stupid to me, that he had kind of almost

47:57 Speaker 1: self sabotaged because then you know, he ends up in court.

48:03 Speaker 1: But yeah, anyway, I just you know what I find

48:06 Speaker 1: really like really bizarre about this whole thing, you know,

48:10 Speaker 1: because Corey Good has kind of went away for the

48:13 Speaker 1: most part, like people know, like people know that he's

48:16 Speaker 1: bullshit enough to the fact enough at least there are faction.

48:21 Speaker 1: I understand that there's like this weird faction of people

48:24 Speaker 1: that that definitely probably still stand with Gory to some degree.

48:29 Speaker 1: Uh maybe some that are private. But why how is

48:39 Speaker 1: David Wilcox still profiting off of this nonsensical I.

48:49 Speaker 2: Think you know, well, I mean that the original wepisodes

48:54 Speaker 2: across my disclosure were taken off of Gaya when they

48:57 Speaker 2: left the movies. That profit nobody's been paid out from

49:02 Speaker 2: those movies. Like that's why there's all these court cases.

49:06 Speaker 2: So he doesn't get profit from Corey. His main source

49:10 Speaker 2: of profit is YouTube.

49:15 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, and doesn't he have hundreds of thousands of

49:18 Speaker 1: us like watchers and they're always giving donations and so.

49:23 Speaker 2: He's not talking about Corey though. So he's getting a lot,

49:26 Speaker 2: he gets money, but like he's selling this new age bullshit,

49:30 Speaker 2: but he's not he's not making money of Corey.

49:32 Speaker 1: Specifically understood, I'm saying Corey only comes into the picture

49:37 Speaker 1: with David. So how is David not implicated in the

49:41 Speaker 1: Corey good like grift? If you will like what I mean,

49:47 Speaker 1: obviously it did end up hurting David. You know, like

49:51 Speaker 1: most of his actions. I mean, he kind of built

49:53 Speaker 1: a career around this, this this idea that the world

49:56 Speaker 1: was gonna end in twenty twelve and or at least

49:59 Speaker 1: our content. You know, you know the story better than

50:01 Speaker 1: I do, and we should probably move on in a minute.

50:06 Speaker 1: But how I mean so, I guess I did maybe

50:10 Speaker 1: answer my own question because he did lose like the

50:12 Speaker 1: ancient alien stuff. He lost like any credibility and like

50:16 Speaker 1: actual documentary filmmaking with other people in the disclosure movement

50:21 Speaker 1: because his name had become tainted, so that relegated him

50:24 Speaker 1: just to the faces of YouTube and new age you have.

50:28 Speaker 2: As soon as he hit Geya, the only like he

50:33 Speaker 2: couldn't get into other things once he was on Guy,

50:36 Speaker 2: it was like they locked him down. It probably also

50:39 Speaker 2: controlled could It's probably we couldn't just go do other documentaries.

50:44 Speaker 2: That's why they waited until after they left GIA to

50:47 Speaker 2: release Above Top Secret and the cosmet oh Secret, right right?

50:54 Speaker 1: Or yeah Majestic Yeah, which you know again, like it's

51:01 Speaker 1: kind of crazy to me thinking about it, because you know,

51:04 Speaker 1: I really do eat up all like the UFO documentaries,

51:07 Speaker 1: and for a while I was watching all of them

51:10 Speaker 1: it didn't matter, like it didn't matter who was making it.

51:14 Speaker 1: You know. I wouldn't go back to like the Strange

51:17 Speaker 1: Harvest Days, but anything that was like two thousand post

51:22 Speaker 1: two thousand and one I would. I would watch and

51:25 Speaker 1: just like whether it was popcorn movie watching it or

51:28 Speaker 1: I was consuming it all and that stuff interested me.

51:33 Speaker 1: But I never got to the point of like subscribing

51:35 Speaker 1: to Gaya and don't like donating to David Wilcox or

51:38 Speaker 1: anything like that. And I know that some people's lives,

51:41 Speaker 1: like some people's lives were ruined in the course of

51:44 Speaker 1: this whole secret Space program nonsense. So it like we

51:49 Speaker 1: have to be cognizant as a community that there are

51:52 Speaker 1: people that are trying to take advantage of you. Yeah,

51:57 Speaker 1: And that is a good segue because the next thing

52:00 Speaker 1: that I want to talk about is something that it's

52:06 Speaker 1: it's hard to talk about, but it's also easy to

52:11 Speaker 1: talk about. And the reason I say it's hard to

52:13 Speaker 1: talk about is because it's almost like if you talk

52:17 Speaker 1: about it, you're giving it merit. We're in one of

52:19 Speaker 1: those situations, uh, the UFO community. And the reason I

52:23 Speaker 1: bring it up is because I know Jene Sticcko and

52:29 Speaker 1: a video came out on ex Twitter whatever you call

52:34 Speaker 1: it of Jean who had met up with lou Elizondo

52:40 Speaker 1: and I've Jeane called me and texted me like right

52:44 Speaker 1: after it happened, and I was like, oh, that's cool whatever.

52:47 Speaker 1: But little did I know there was a video and

52:51 Speaker 1: there was It went out on Disco Disclosure tonight. I

52:55 Speaker 1: think it's the show with Thomas Wessler and Mike something

53:00 Speaker 1: whistling mic on X and essentially there's like this war

53:08 Speaker 1: of the narratives going around, and this is something I

53:13 Speaker 1: think that has been a very big presence in the

53:16 Speaker 1: on And I want to stress this the online UFO

53:22 Speaker 1: community because nowhere, to my knowledge, on paper or in

53:28 Speaker 1: real life, is any of this talked about. I've been

53:31 Speaker 1: to contact in the desert, I've been to different conferences.

53:35 Speaker 1: None of this is ever really playing. I've never seen it,

53:38 Speaker 1: you know, as a presentation or this or that. It's

53:43 Speaker 1: seemingly only on X and the UFO quote unquote community.

53:48 Speaker 1: And I don't say that because like red Pandicuala or Tupacabra,

53:53 Speaker 1: they don't make videos and they don't I'm not saying that,

53:58 Speaker 1: and I'm not saying Alizado them theyn't make videos and

54:02 Speaker 1: aren't relevant. I'm saying, the drama of trying, you know,

54:08 Speaker 1: to get each other deplatform, demonetize, I mean, and the

54:14 Speaker 1: illegality of it. I'm really unclear as to what is

54:17 Speaker 1: going on. It's very hard to follow. And it seems

54:21 Speaker 1: like the UFO communities almost and I say this like

54:24 Speaker 1: really with the most sincerity. It seems like we can

54:27 Speaker 1: be our own worst enemy.

54:31 Speaker 2: Yeah.

54:32 Speaker 1: And so the video in the video, it's Jane sitting

54:40 Speaker 1: down with Elizondo and I know where they were because

54:43 Speaker 1: Gene told me and he sent me the picture and

54:46 Speaker 1: I knew where they were, and he ivan handled the

54:51 Speaker 1: lawyer and Jane, you know, they made Lewis in town

54:57 Speaker 1: and he's like, oh, I'll go see him. So then

55:00 Speaker 1: Geene is good friends with Mike and Tom of Disclosure

55:05 Speaker 1: Tonight and he call like did like a live call

55:10 Speaker 1: in on Disclosure tonight because that's how that's run. And

55:14 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's really just caused a lot of waves.

55:16 Speaker 1: Did you see the video?

55:18 Speaker 2: Nope? Oh I don't watch.

55:22 Speaker 1: Just slammed a brick wall right there.

55:25 Speaker 2: Also, I heard about it. I heard about it.

55:28 Speaker 1: But backtracking, Echo, thank you for the super chat again.

55:32 Speaker 1: We are guys, we are here, going to be here

55:34 Speaker 1: live every Thursday. Your super chats are super encouraged and

55:38 Speaker 1: really really help going into keeping the lights on literally

55:43 Speaker 1: and paying keeping Yeah should Yeah, that would be a

55:49 Speaker 1: good idea. But I want the audience to be as

55:52 Speaker 1: engaged as possible, and I want you guys to ask questions.

55:55 Speaker 1: And I want you guys you know, if you disagree

55:57 Speaker 1: or I think someone called us, I don't. I don't

56:00 Speaker 1: think it's acceptable to use the R word anymore. Uh,

56:03 Speaker 1: But I mean, listen, you want to say that that's cool?

56:06 Speaker 1: Like me, right, he called us a retard, which I

56:12 Speaker 1: think is cancel that man, cancel him, but give your thoughts.

56:17 Speaker 1: Become the third uh, the third host.

56:20 Speaker 2: Become the awkward third third wheel in the sport.

56:24 Speaker 1: Yeah, eventually you want to break this up into segments

56:26 Speaker 1: and have some stuff. But yeah, so there's just a

56:30 Speaker 1: lot of a lot of a lot of drama in

56:33 Speaker 1: the community online. No. The thing is is it's been

56:38 Speaker 1: happening for so long. Uh Like, whether it's guys like KMF,

56:42 Speaker 1: it seems like and hear me out on this, it

56:45 Speaker 1: seems like but and I cannot say that if al

56:50 Speaker 1: Zonda was not sitting right here that I wouldn't be

56:54 Speaker 1: interested in asking questions and having a discussion. I absolutely would.

57:00 Speaker 1: My questions would be a little bit different than the

57:02 Speaker 1: ones that have been asked of him now or to

57:06 Speaker 1: this time. But I think that's what would make it interesting.

57:10 Speaker 1: And you know it's being talked about. I do know Ivan,

57:14 Speaker 1: So I plan on having Tim Phillips on and now

57:18 Speaker 1: I can say that because we've confirmed it, and the

57:22 Speaker 1: questions I ask him are going to be hard. The

57:25 Speaker 1: point is to, you know, ask the questions that no

57:27 Speaker 1: one else is willing to ask.

57:29 Speaker 2: And can I just put a pin on that. Yeah,

57:33 Speaker 2: Whilst you ask those questions, it's important to give meaningful

57:37 Speaker 2: pushback when answers don't necessarily make sense. Yeah, because like

57:43 Speaker 2: asking those questions but just getting a stock reply, then

57:46 Speaker 2: you've done absolutely no.

57:47 Speaker 1: Work, right, There has to be a knack for So

57:51 Speaker 1: this is my point is a lot of people and

57:54 Speaker 1: you know my heart Like I love Chris Ramsey. I've

57:59 Speaker 1: I say that like in a non weird way. I

58:02 Speaker 1: think he has one of the I mean, his studio

58:06 Speaker 1: is amazing, His ability to produce the stuff that he

58:10 Speaker 1: produces amazing, Like guy who got who isn't just famous

58:15 Speaker 1: for UFO stuff, you know, was an illusionist, a magician

58:19 Speaker 1: and really made his first real big name by doing

58:22 Speaker 1: that and then having that interest in the UFO world,

58:26 Speaker 1: you know, creating Area fifty two. But when he interviewed Alexondo,

58:30 Speaker 1: it was just like just he took everything at fakes value,

58:34 Speaker 1: and I'm like pushback, Like all I wanted was just

58:37 Speaker 1: even a little bit of follow up to this something

58:39 Speaker 1: that didn't quite make sense right, and you know, he'd

58:43 Speaker 1: even ask for clarity. And he's not the only one,

58:46 Speaker 1: make no mistake about it, But it seems that Alizondo,

58:50 Speaker 1: in the interviews that he gets, there is a lot

58:53 Speaker 1: of like there is a lot of things that the

58:59 Speaker 1: host is just seeming not willing to do. And it

59:03 Speaker 1: also bothered me when like Rogan had how put off

59:05 Speaker 1: on and not once does he bring up scientology after

59:09 Speaker 1: having lea remedion and making huge deals about scientology and

59:17 Speaker 1: what they're doing. And you know, not to not to

59:20 Speaker 1: sugarcoat things because I love Danny Jones as well, but

59:23 Speaker 1: Danny Jones just had Luna on and there was a

59:25 Speaker 1: couple of times that I would have pushed back, but

59:27 Speaker 1: Danny just took took it all and just you know,

59:30 Speaker 1: it's I understand what it's like to have one of these,

59:33 Speaker 1: like really high profile guests and you want to appease them.

59:36 Speaker 1: But listen, we need to hold ourselves to that journalistic standard.

59:40 Speaker 1: As podcasters and as interviewers amen to that. So that's

59:46 Speaker 1: some of the stuff that bothers me in the community

59:50 Speaker 1: a big you know, I don't know, do you what's

59:53 Speaker 1: your I just want to ask you a question. Okay,

59:56 Speaker 1: being who you are.

59:59 Speaker 2: I am me, I may meet the other me.

1:00:03 Speaker 1: Yeah, what is your take on the ALEC? What is

1:00:09 Speaker 1: your take on Alex Jones.

1:00:12 Speaker 2: Is a mimetic machine who said some really stupid shit.

1:00:21 Speaker 2: I think he stole with Bill Cooper's grift. But yeah,

1:00:27 Speaker 2: I mean, I mean if you'd asked me ten to

1:00:31 Speaker 2: fifteen years ago, yes, but I grew up, so I

1:00:37 Speaker 2: now recognize the harm that he has done through erroneous reporting.

1:00:45 Speaker 2: But he's also been right about a lot of shit.

1:00:46 Speaker 2: So it's like, I'm not going to discount him completely.

1:00:49 Speaker 2: I think he's just an idiot, Like he's an idiot

1:00:52 Speaker 2: with an organization that's right quite a lot of the time.

1:00:54 Speaker 2: But it's also wrong a lot of the time, like

1:00:56 Speaker 2: hilariously wrong. Just full disclosure for the audio. By the

1:01:00 Speaker 2: age of like twelve, I was watching info Wars. My

1:01:03 Speaker 2: first game attack was terror Storm, which is the name

1:01:07 Speaker 2: of Alex Jones' two thousand and four documentary. Like, I

1:01:11 Speaker 2: was all in on Alex Drurans from like a very

1:01:14 Speaker 2: early age, and then I grew up. So like I've

1:01:18 Speaker 2: grown up with Alex Drurance. He's almost like a weird uncle,

1:01:21 Speaker 2: you know, because I've just I've literally been watching him

1:01:24 Speaker 2: since I was a child almost, So it be I

1:01:28 Speaker 2: can't conceive of a world of an Internet because he

1:01:32 Speaker 2: was there for basically when I got on the Internet.

1:01:35 Speaker 2: I can't conceive of an Internet that doesn't contain.

1:01:37 Speaker 1: Alex rand right and war.

1:01:40 Speaker 2: And yeah, Info Wars kind of went away with the

1:01:43 Speaker 2: whole Sandy Hook thing anyway, now it's the Alex Stroones show.

1:01:46 Speaker 2: But yeah, so if he loses the trademark to Info Wars,

1:01:51 Speaker 2: it's really.

1:01:52 Speaker 1: Well, that's what I wanted to bring up. So the Onion,

1:01:55 Speaker 1: I think it was last year the Onion had picked

1:01:58 Speaker 1: up and bought Info Wars, and the Onion is is

1:02:04 Speaker 1: uh pretty satirical in nature in its nature. Uh so

1:02:08 Speaker 1: I thought it was. I mean, it made sense why

1:02:12 Speaker 1: they would buy info Wars, but they seem to have purchased,

1:02:17 Speaker 1: you know, a lot of debt from what it from

1:02:21 Speaker 1: what it seemed like it was going to happen now

1:02:24 Speaker 1: he owes. So the judge just ruled again, so not

1:02:29 Speaker 1: in favor of Alex to appeal. The one point for uh?

1:02:34 Speaker 1: Is it billion dollars?

1:02:37 Speaker 2: Something like that?

1:02:39 Speaker 1: I can't hear anybody can't hear me? Is it just me?

1:02:43 Speaker 1: Can anyone hear Cary?

1:02:44 Speaker 2: Hell? Are testing testing?

1:02:49 Speaker 1: I can't hear you? Can someone in the comments let

1:02:52 Speaker 1: us know? Is can you hear Cary?

1:02:57 Speaker 2: What's happened?

1:03:00 Speaker 1: Okay, it's just you must be me? Oh yeah, that's what.

1:03:07 Speaker 1: That's weird.

1:03:08 Speaker 2: What was the question?

1:03:11 Speaker 1: Wait? What the hell?

1:03:15 Speaker 2: What we have here is a failure to communicate?

1:03:20 Speaker 1: Why did I one second? I'm gonna have to back

1:03:26 Speaker 1: out in real time.

1:03:35 Speaker 2: I'm the captain now, welcome to the carriage show. Can

1:03:39 Speaker 2: I get rid of that? Can I? Can I get

1:03:41 Speaker 2: rid of the thing? I hope no one screenshots this.

1:03:44 Speaker 2: I can't go behind it. Damn it. I was trying

1:03:47 Speaker 2: to what I was trying to cover up the total

1:03:50 Speaker 2: disclosure logo because it's the carriage show now. Now now,

1:03:53 Speaker 2: people are probably just gonna screenshot me. And it looks

1:03:55 Speaker 2: like I'm doing the Nazi salute, so you're welcome.

1:03:59 Speaker 1: What do you you.

1:04:04 Speaker 2: Wait, isn't isn't that? Isn't the Nazi sweet with the

1:04:07 Speaker 2: left hand?

1:04:08 Speaker 1: I don't know. Uh no, it'd be the right because

1:04:11 Speaker 1: it's coming.

1:04:11 Speaker 2: Over your heart right. I didn't do it like that.

1:04:14 Speaker 2: I just just did that. But like it looks bad, right.

1:04:17 Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks pretty bad when you do anything like this.

1:04:20 Speaker 1: Don't wave anyone off anymore. Like it's just it's seen

1:04:24 Speaker 1: certain way.

1:04:25 Speaker 2: It's okay, you just did it way more than I did,

1:04:28 Speaker 2: like five times.

1:04:29 Speaker 1: If anyone wants.

1:04:33 Speaker 2: Don't, don't. Okay, I thought you just got to do it.

1:04:36 Speaker 2: I was.

1:04:38 Speaker 1: Sich, don't do it. He's behind the scenes, Like, fuck, dude,

1:04:43 Speaker 1: we haven't even got started. Yeah, we're already out of

1:04:48 Speaker 1: the game. Also, guys, if you want to, you can

1:04:51 Speaker 1: scare the QR codes up in the corner to you know,

1:04:56 Speaker 1: given a donation. Uh on PayPal. We don't get charged

1:05:01 Speaker 1: for those ones aside from the cash out fee. But yeah,

1:05:05 Speaker 1: so and then there are multiple QR codes that the

1:05:09 Speaker 1: black one is for all my links and that includes

1:05:12 Speaker 1: Care's links as well, so it just brings you all

1:05:15 Speaker 1: my links.

1:05:16 Speaker 2: You know what we need to do. We need to

1:05:17 Speaker 2: add a link to the dock Lines documentary to the

1:05:20 Speaker 2: description of the videos as well as my Twitter account. Yeah,

1:05:25 Speaker 2: I've just realized in real time we need to do this.

1:05:27 Speaker 2: So look, actually you're seeing the show being constructed in

1:05:30 Speaker 2: real time.

1:05:31 Speaker 1: As we Yeah, I actually do.

1:05:33 Speaker 2: You're in at the ground floor.

1:05:34 Speaker 1: No, we did get an offer. So there's something I

1:05:38 Speaker 1: wanted to talk to you about offscreen. But there's a

1:05:41 Speaker 1: cannabis seltzer company that wants us to do an ad

1:05:44 Speaker 1: read So.

1:05:47 Speaker 2: I mean, actually can I don't. I'm not sure that

1:05:49 Speaker 2: I can have that shipped to me here in the UK.

1:05:52 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll do it so it's legal. But there's also

1:05:56 Speaker 1: another one Strong Coffee. It's called the brand is Strong Coffe.

1:06:00 Speaker 2: I could absolutely review that coffee.

1:06:03 Speaker 1: Yeah. So look, people are already seeing that the show

1:06:09 Speaker 1: is interesting enough to do that. So Alex Jones Info

1:06:15 Speaker 1: Wars again kind of bet as he's he's been a

1:06:19 Speaker 1: staple of like Conspira. He's like if conspiracy, you know,

1:06:27 Speaker 1: is in like the dictionary and it is like jokingly,

1:06:31 Speaker 1: there would be a picture of him next to it. Right,

1:06:34 Speaker 1: he seems to throw shit at the wall and whatever

1:06:37 Speaker 1: stick sticks. But in the nineties he was doing some

1:06:40 Speaker 1: actually good like journalism, like breaking into like not breaking in,

1:06:46 Speaker 1: but he was got he did break in.

1:06:50 Speaker 2: I stole Bill Cooper's grift because when Bill Cooper died

1:06:53 Speaker 2: in November of two thousand and one, right after nine

1:06:56 Speaker 2: to eleven, Bill Cooper predicted nine to eleven.

1:06:59 Speaker 1: By the way, yeah, but it's.

1:07:00 Speaker 2: Funny because Alex terrarn says I predicted nine to eleven

1:07:03 Speaker 2: when Bill Cooper went on his radio show and predicted

1:07:05 Speaker 2: nine to eleven. But even the next day, the next day,

1:07:09 Speaker 2: Alex sturns steals that idea and prediction, and there's it

1:07:13 Speaker 2: on his show and goes, see I predicted nine eleven.

1:07:15 Speaker 2: It's like, no, you didn't, Bill Cooper. Did you just

1:07:18 Speaker 2: stole his report? Everyone can.

1:07:22 Speaker 1: Even Tucker Carlson had Alex on and was like, you know.

1:07:28 Speaker 2: That happened like two days ago.

1:07:29 Speaker 1: Right, No, this is this is actually he just did

1:07:32 Speaker 1: another interview and a new one's called What's what Comes

1:07:36 Speaker 1: next or whatever, But the one he had done with

1:07:38 Speaker 1: Alex recently. And listen, Alex has like really gotten he

1:07:43 Speaker 1: It seems like the court stuff kind of like got

1:07:46 Speaker 1: in his head and he was drinking a lot. And listen,

1:07:49 Speaker 1: I as a as a as someone who sobered myself.

1:07:53 Speaker 1: I'm not giving Alex a pass on the stuff that

1:07:55 Speaker 1: he said about anything about that, because he has got

1:08:00 Speaker 1: a lot, right, you are right, and you know he is.

1:08:05 Speaker 1: He's controversial in in the in the way that you

1:08:09 Speaker 1: know your conspiratorial uncle Joe at Thanksgiving is like that

1:08:14 Speaker 1: there's always one in the family, right, And like Alex

1:08:17 Speaker 1: is like the top up of the pier that stuff.

1:08:22 Speaker 1: You know, he's the he's famous for, you know, being

1:08:25 Speaker 1: on Rogan half in the bag, you know, screaming at

1:08:29 Speaker 1: Joe about how the frogs are gay, and like turns

1:08:34 Speaker 1: out that's it was actually true to a degree that

1:08:38 Speaker 1: they would turning the frog. Yeah. So like it's just

1:08:42 Speaker 1: the weirdest shit, and like it makes you think, like

1:08:46 Speaker 1: if this isn't by the way, if we're in the

1:08:49 Speaker 1: matrix and and we have some writers, they deserve awards

1:08:55 Speaker 1: for what they've come up with the past, you know,

1:08:59 Speaker 1: twenty thirty forty years, Because I mean God damn. They

1:09:03 Speaker 1: told a good story, a tragic story, but a good one.

1:09:09 Speaker 2: Two years.

1:09:10 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're doing a reboot.

1:09:13 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're they're currently changed. The story, arcs have changed.

1:09:19 Speaker 2: I don't know what the end thing is going to

1:09:20 Speaker 2: be anymore.

1:09:21 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like a new season a doctor Who. Right,

1:09:23 Speaker 1: they're recasting everyone, but Alex could do you think that

1:09:29 Speaker 1: Alex Jones is going to do you think that he's

1:09:33 Speaker 1: going to essentially be thrust into bankruptcy because the the

1:09:39 Speaker 1: victims the quote unquote like because victims is used in, Yeah,

1:09:45 Speaker 1: victims is used in a really weird way here because

1:09:47 Speaker 1: they are actually victims. They did have losses in Sandy

1:09:52 Speaker 1: Hook from that the right the thing, and so they

1:09:57 Speaker 1: are victims. But then they're also the that they're utilizing

1:10:00 Speaker 1: the word victim in this is victims of the defamation.

1:10:06 Speaker 1: That's that is specifically what's on trial here. It's not

1:10:12 Speaker 1: the fact, it's not anything else aside from that.

1:10:14 Speaker 2: It's the fast many it's mainly that parent that was

1:10:17 Speaker 2: like kind of.

1:10:18 Speaker 1: But they want to take they they don't they say

1:10:22 Speaker 1: this is what they say. They don't care about the money.

1:10:24 Speaker 1: They want him off the air, and they won't stop

1:10:27 Speaker 1: until he's off the air.

1:10:28 Speaker 2: Do you think that that's not that's no, because that's

1:10:31 Speaker 2: not how the fucking First Amendment works.

1:10:33 Speaker 1: Like, thank you so much, thank you?

1:10:37 Speaker 2: Like, do I disagree with what he said and did? Yes?

1:10:39 Speaker 2: But he had like as.

1:10:41 Speaker 1: Well, No, no, no, no, you know you don't.

1:10:44 Speaker 2: No, no, I don't.

1:10:47 Speaker 1: Okay, yes, pull that back.

1:10:49 Speaker 2: You're like, do I agree with what he said? No?

1:10:51 Speaker 2: But yes, I agree that I jumped like four words

1:10:56 Speaker 2: in my sense, I know, I know. I thank you

1:10:58 Speaker 2: for catching me because I even notice I've done that.

1:11:03 Speaker 2: So yeah, like I disagree with that, but I agree

1:11:09 Speaker 2: that he has the right to say it as long

1:11:12 Speaker 2: as he's not inciting violence or directing anything towards a

1:11:17 Speaker 2: specific individual or I guess in this situation. Yeah, he

1:11:21 Speaker 2: he defamed, right, he defamed the parents and implied their

1:11:25 Speaker 2: crisis actor the stuff. Yep, that obviously wrong, huge mistake.

1:11:30 Speaker 2: But apart from that, he didn't violate any constitutional law.

1:11:36 Speaker 2: He didn't violate or he doesn't deserve to have his

1:11:40 Speaker 2: constitutional rights violated to appease the emotions of some people

1:11:44 Speaker 2: that he defamed. That's not how that's not how the

1:11:47 Speaker 2: constitution works. So yeah, find him, liquidate info Wars as

1:11:53 Speaker 2: a brand, do all of that stuff to satisfy this

1:11:57 Speaker 2: this this bloodlust for vengeance, which probably does come.

1:12:03 Speaker 1: It has become that because it's almost like it's almost

1:12:07 Speaker 1: like and I hate to say this, but you know

1:12:11 Speaker 1: that the loss of the the loss of somebody is

1:12:14 Speaker 1: a very strong motivator, right yea, And especially the scenario that.

1:12:21 Speaker 2: This is why I don't think the parents are wrong

1:12:22 Speaker 2: for Chase.

1:12:23 Speaker 1: I don't either.

1:12:24 Speaker 2: I just think the stated goal being we're not going

1:12:28 Speaker 2: to stop until he's off the air, well, you can't

1:12:30 Speaker 2: tape his mouth shut, you can't keep him off the internet.

1:12:34 Speaker 2: Like that's not an objective, that's actually reasonable, even though

1:12:38 Speaker 2: that's my problem with it.

1:12:39 Speaker 1: He was really the first person to be canceled in

1:12:43 Speaker 1: the modern day media. So he was removed in one day.

1:12:47 Speaker 1: He was removed from Apple, YouTube x on Twitter at

1:12:54 Speaker 1: the time.

1:12:54 Speaker 2: I believe, right, just the situation that led to him

1:12:59 Speaker 2: being because it wasn't soundyho, what was I think it was?

1:13:04 Speaker 2: It wasn't in twenty twelve, This was in like twenty twenty,

1:13:07 Speaker 2: twenty eight, nineteen. Well, I want to think it was

1:13:11 Speaker 2: like stuff and q Q and if anyone in anyone

1:13:17 Speaker 2: else why Alex Rans was deleted from it from X

1:13:21 Speaker 2: and Twitter and Facebook and Apple and everything in twenty eighteen,

1:13:24 Speaker 2: twenty nineteen era.

1:13:25 Speaker 1: And here's the thing, So that is legal. It is

1:13:30 Speaker 1: those are private so right now, for instance, we are

1:13:33 Speaker 1: on YouTube, we're on Rumble, and we're on Acts right now,

1:13:40 Speaker 1: So those are private entities. They have every right to

1:13:45 Speaker 1: take you and remove you and ban you from their

1:13:48 Speaker 1: private platform, right.

1:13:52 Speaker 2: I mean, that's that is in life, if you.

1:13:54 Speaker 1: Create your own website.

1:13:56 Speaker 2: Yeah, like he has done what he can't He can

1:14:00 Speaker 2: just say whatever he wants on the show because it's

1:14:02 Speaker 2: broadcast primarily to his own website. Now they'd have to

1:14:06 Speaker 2: go after the server farm is it Amazon Web Services?

1:14:09 Speaker 1: Is it?

1:14:10 Speaker 2: Or has he brought his own servers to host the show,

1:14:14 Speaker 2: which given his infrastructure, probably wouldn't be that hard for him.

1:14:18 Speaker 1: I think he does, right, So it's.

1:14:22 Speaker 2: I Whilst I'm sympathetic to what they're doing, the stated

1:14:26 Speaker 2: goal is not reasonable and not achievable, so they should

1:14:30 Speaker 2: take the payout and go and live their lives.

1:14:34 Speaker 1: But it's not behind.

1:14:36 Speaker 2: Once once they get the money, there's nothing more that

1:14:39 Speaker 2: they can get. There's nothing, there's no other judgment that

1:14:42 Speaker 2: they can get for it.

1:14:43 Speaker 1: Well, they want they want.

1:14:45 Speaker 2: Alex jump Scare, they want.

1:14:47 Speaker 1: Alex off the air. They want him, they want info

1:14:51 Speaker 1: Wars gone, they want Alex Jahn. And like I said,

1:14:56 Speaker 1: I've now this. That is a direct quote. They that

1:15:01 Speaker 1: multiple people. There's a quote from them saying the money

1:15:06 Speaker 1: is not what we're after here. It's the fact that

1:15:09 Speaker 1: Alex is still able to broadcast. And you know that

1:15:13 Speaker 1: is again it brings up this fundamental like this this

1:15:20 Speaker 1: really interesting talk about free speech and the right a

1:15:27 Speaker 1: free a free press in the United States and the constitution,

1:15:30 Speaker 1: like because the internet, the Constitution was always like people think,

1:15:36 Speaker 1: like even when it comes to gun laws, they're like, okay,

1:15:40 Speaker 1: the laws are antiquated, right, Well, it was always meant

1:15:44 Speaker 1: to be able to adapt. That's why amendments were a thing. Right,

1:15:50 Speaker 1: It was always meant to change and and change with

1:15:53 Speaker 1: the times to be the best version of self governance.

1:15:59 Speaker 2: Isn't it as long as the amendment doesn't actually violate

1:16:05 Speaker 2: the constitutional statute that it's amending the fundamentally change the

1:16:10 Speaker 2: the what was codified in the original in the original

1:16:14 Speaker 2: like amendment to the Constitution.

1:16:18 Speaker 1: Right right, right, right. So the fact that the Internet

1:16:22 Speaker 1: came around and it really became like it became whether

1:16:28 Speaker 1: it wanted to or not. You start asking like is

1:16:33 Speaker 1: X is Facebook? Are these especially post pandemic and the

1:16:38 Speaker 1: way that society is heading? Are these places? Do they

1:16:43 Speaker 1: represent free speech? They are they a right? At this point?

1:16:50 Speaker 1: Like where is that line? Eventually? You know it's going

1:16:55 Speaker 1: to have to be addressed, because it's it's this very

1:16:59 Speaker 1: weird like limb that we're in because you know, people

1:17:05 Speaker 1: people are obviously have their opinions in real life and

1:17:07 Speaker 1: like what I call quote unquote real life. But the

1:17:11 Speaker 1: fact is the Internet and social media is life like

1:17:14 Speaker 1: it is part of life now. And you know people

1:17:18 Speaker 1: are getting arrested in certain countries over posts and I

1:17:25 Speaker 1: mean it's it's just it's becoming this Orwellian nightmare.

1:17:32 Speaker 2: Yes, well, I agree with the a Wellian nightmare bit.

1:17:35 Speaker 1: For sure, especially in your country, bro.

1:17:39 Speaker 2: I mean yeah, I mean I don't really pay attention

1:17:41 Speaker 2: to that kind of stuff because I know that.

1:17:43 Speaker 1: The comedian arrested for five.

1:17:47 Speaker 2: Like, there's gonna it's they're gonna hit a wall with

1:17:50 Speaker 2: it where the people go enough is enough because I

1:17:52 Speaker 2: know what I know what my country is like. So

1:17:53 Speaker 2: I'm not too worried about. But anyway back, yeah, in

1:17:59 Speaker 2: terms of the Constitution and whether platforms have constitutional protections. See,

1:18:09 Speaker 2: this is this is a really this is a very

1:18:11 Speaker 2: complicated issue. Of course it is because this gets into

1:18:15 Speaker 2: what's what's the act that protects protects platforms from speech

1:18:20 Speaker 2: made on the platform. I can't remember the I don't

1:18:23 Speaker 2: know which one it is, but you know.

1:18:25 Speaker 1: Yes, it's it's I think it's like, oh god, it's

1:18:29 Speaker 1: on the tip of my tongue. It was put in

1:18:31 Speaker 1: the place so that, like you said, the the user

1:18:37 Speaker 1: and what they said. So again it's it's it's like

1:18:40 Speaker 1: proposition something I think I believe it's.

1:18:42 Speaker 2: Called something like that.

1:18:44 Speaker 1: But it protects like X itself from like say, Hamas

1:18:53 Speaker 1: is tweeting God, I think, like I'm pretty sure organized

1:18:58 Speaker 1: like terrorist organizations have a kind of and they tweet

1:19:01 Speaker 1: like they post.

1:19:02 Speaker 2: And I've seen them.

1:19:04 Speaker 1: There's protection there that so that X cannot be held

1:19:09 Speaker 1: liable for what the user says. However, they are obligated

1:19:15 Speaker 1: in a sense. Yes, section I knew it was like

1:19:19 Speaker 1: proposition or section. But there is also this fine line between.

1:19:24 Speaker 1: So you see that the lines are getting blurred, right,

1:19:28 Speaker 1: and that like newspapers are going away, so journalism is

1:19:34 Speaker 1: now like substack medium that kind of thing.

1:19:38 Speaker 2: SOMs. Text media that's been decentralized. Now we're getting to

1:19:44 Speaker 2: the point where video news production that's getting decentralized right

1:19:48 Speaker 2: where everybody's running their own their own network like candae

1:19:52 Speaker 2: Oms or Tarker Carlson or extras. Like Funnily enough, all

1:19:56 Speaker 2: conservative people. I don't see anybody on the left having

1:19:58 Speaker 2: their own network a really.

1:20:00 Speaker 1: Well that's their problem, that's one of their issue thing. Well,

1:20:05 Speaker 1: like even Gavin Newsome as a podcast now and they

1:20:08 Speaker 1: think they're all like they think they're.

1:20:10 Speaker 2: Like, yeah, this is the other things. There's this oh

1:20:13 Speaker 2: I've got my own network. It's like, no, you've got

1:20:16 Speaker 2: a website and a podcast. Yeah, does not a network

1:20:20 Speaker 2: make Yeah?

1:20:22 Speaker 1: All right, push him back, pushing, push him back, Push

1:20:24 Speaker 1: him back. Alex Jones, though, you know, did you I

1:20:27 Speaker 1: remember he had uh Lou on And you know what's

1:20:31 Speaker 1: weird if you actually go back and watch the coverage

1:20:35 Speaker 1: that he has had of Lou since then, he's actually

1:20:39 Speaker 1: been very critical.

1:20:41 Speaker 2: Of them and who had Lou on?

1:20:43 Speaker 1: Sorry Jones, Alex Jones had him on, you know for

1:20:48 Speaker 1: Wars is like twenty four to seven.

1:20:50 Speaker 2: On Alex.

1:20:52 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, when did that happen? A while back?

1:20:56 Speaker 1: A while back, But since then he's been sort of

1:20:59 Speaker 1: critical of.

1:21:02 Speaker 2: Of Yeah because they smell fed. Literally was like, ah,

1:21:10 Speaker 2: these guys are running disclosure. Yeah, well I just I

1:21:15 Speaker 2: just want to address Colm Buckley. I'm not sure if

1:21:17 Speaker 2: we actually did say it earlier. So November twenty first,

1:21:21 Speaker 2: I think we didn't say it. November twenty first is

1:21:24 Speaker 2: when Age of Disclosure comes out on Prime Video, and it.

1:21:27 Speaker 1: Will be also rerun simultaneously in three cities for a

1:21:33 Speaker 1: at least we're guessing fourteen to twenty one day theatrical run.

1:21:38 Speaker 2: Right, and so actually chimed in earlier that it's a

1:21:42 Speaker 2: seven day minimum for OSCAR qualification, with a longer run

1:21:45 Speaker 2: required for best Picture.

1:21:48 Speaker 1: That's right, that's right, that's right. Ah, And I should

1:21:52 Speaker 1: know that stuff because I I literally was anyway, Ah,

1:21:59 Speaker 1: you had some things you wanted to show.

1:22:01 Speaker 2: I think I did. I did. I had a bunch

1:22:03 Speaker 2: of all right, I let you, I let you drive

1:22:06 Speaker 2: the boat today.

1:22:07 Speaker 1: So yeah, pick one and let's go. So we're gonna

1:22:11 Speaker 1: go to a quick uh tension palette cleanser. Oh, what's

1:22:29 Speaker 1: the Age of Disclosure? Pig shows up there?

1:22:33 Speaker 2: Do you work for Dan?

1:22:34 Speaker 1: Yeah? I think I have a stock in Age of

1:22:38 Speaker 1: Disclosure documentary. I knew it.

1:22:39 Speaker 2: That's that's what I am.

1:22:41 Speaker 1: One of the producers. Actually, just kidding, I wish, just kidding.

1:22:46 Speaker 2: Actually you felt thet.

1:22:48 Speaker 1: Yep, all right, so what is it? But Dronah Paloza

1:22:52 Speaker 1: does continue in the in the in the Europe area.

1:22:58 Speaker 2: Oh ship, I got too many? No, not that one.

1:23:04 Speaker 2: I can't bloody go that one. So this one is in.

1:23:08 Speaker 2: You think it's a UFO, but it's not. So there's

1:23:13 Speaker 2: this spiral video going around.

1:23:15 Speaker 1: Then get rid of the batter. This one full screens.

1:23:23 Speaker 1: So oh that does look very interesting. But it seems this.

1:23:30 Speaker 2: Week's Oh my god, I can't believe people believe this video.

1:23:36 Speaker 2: We've got to name the segment. We've got to name

1:23:38 Speaker 2: the segment.

1:23:38 Speaker 1: But the obvious AI, yeah this is.

1:23:45 Speaker 2: But it's it's an it's an example.

1:23:48 Speaker 1: It's getting way too good though, that is way too good.

1:23:52 Speaker 2: This isn't even new. This is the thing. So this

1:23:56 Speaker 2: was actually meant that you're sorry, that's all right, it's

1:24:01 Speaker 2: from five years ago.

1:24:03 Speaker 1: So and they're repurposing and saying happened yesterday or whatever.

1:24:06 Speaker 2: Right, yeah, so like this is a repert this even

1:24:08 Speaker 2: be hard you look at that.

1:24:10 Speaker 1: Yeah, but they like made it grainy, and that's that's

1:24:14 Speaker 1: a huge tell, at least in my opinion, because but

1:24:19 Speaker 1: there is a point at one point when they zoom

1:24:21 Speaker 1: in and it does that like like the thing that

1:24:24 Speaker 1: the iPhone does when you zoom and it gets like

1:24:27 Speaker 1: lighter to darker. It goes like a really quick transition.

1:24:30 Speaker 1: So this seems like it's some sort of video that

1:24:34 Speaker 1: was put you know that was our that was filmed

1:24:38 Speaker 1: with nothing and then something was added in, like the

1:24:42 Speaker 1: craft is added in to follow and track the motion.

1:24:46 Speaker 2: I think this was done with an app and then

1:24:48 Speaker 2: they applied grain to it.

1:24:50 Speaker 1: After Yeah, but you said it was five years old,

1:24:53 Speaker 1: so there's no AI in it then.

1:24:55 Speaker 2: Right, Well no, it would just be an app or

1:24:57 Speaker 2: it's it's someone just animated it and then grain over.

1:25:02 Speaker 1: Right. So that's what I mean. So for people who

1:25:05 Speaker 1: don't people watching, so oftentimes when you're watching a fake

1:25:10 Speaker 1: UFO video, there's there's these weird things they do that

1:25:14 Speaker 1: are that that should be red flags immediately. And that

1:25:17 Speaker 1: is very like distortions of the actual picture, like over over, grainy,

1:25:27 Speaker 1: over exposed, like some something that will mask the fact

1:25:33 Speaker 1: that there are sloppy cuts and mask the fact that

1:25:38 Speaker 1: there's an you know, a blemish or an imperfection in

1:25:42 Speaker 1: the actual effect that they're trying to achieve.

1:25:47 Speaker 2: Yep, so like this, like this, what makes it not

1:25:57 Speaker 2: make sense is this light over here?

1:26:02 Speaker 1: There's no boat off of the light. What is that?

1:26:08 Speaker 2: Like it would be distorting the view.

1:26:11 Speaker 1: But see how it gets darker right there. So it's

1:26:14 Speaker 1: like he took the greeny It's like he took the

1:26:16 Speaker 1: grainy filter off and cut in that moment back to

1:26:23 Speaker 1: the actual sort of.

1:26:25 Speaker 2: Did you see it?

1:26:26 Speaker 1: Yeah?

1:26:27 Speaker 3: So did you?

1:26:28 Speaker 1: Yeah?

1:26:29 Speaker 2: Slow motion because.

1:26:32 Speaker 1: Yeah so so it's like it goes back, the greeniness

1:26:35 Speaker 1: disappears and it's hidden in that moment. See how it

1:26:42 Speaker 1: just it fades. No greenness, that doesn't fade like that?

1:26:46 Speaker 1: What are you fucking crazy?

1:26:47 Speaker 2: That could be that could be just ramping down the

1:26:51 Speaker 2: ramping down the brightness or whatever. But I was more

1:26:54 Speaker 2: interested in the clear key framing on the transition where

1:26:58 Speaker 2: it starts to move it you could see the look

1:27:03 Speaker 2: at it, so look in relation to this light. Yeah, yeah,

1:27:13 Speaker 2: you see the shrink shrink in the swerve. Yes, so

1:27:16 Speaker 2: that that was not a natural lens phenomenon.

1:27:20 Speaker 1: So this is yeah, okay, that's funny, good good good

1:27:24 Speaker 1: good fake though like.

1:27:26 Speaker 2: For yeah, it was an interest. It's a good example

1:27:29 Speaker 2: of like how many views does it have? Seven thousand

1:27:33 Speaker 2: views over five years and then four thousand views on

1:27:36 Speaker 2: that tweet, So no, it's not super viral, but I

1:27:38 Speaker 2: thought it was an example of like one of these

1:27:41 Speaker 2: videos that gets shared around is like old and fake

1:27:44 Speaker 2: and gets repurposed. And that's that's something I want to

1:27:47 Speaker 2: do at least once every show is call out these

1:27:49 Speaker 2: idiotic accounts that repurpose videos because.

1:27:52 Speaker 1: There's a lot of them X that do it.

1:27:54 Speaker 2: There are a lot of them.

1:27:56 Speaker 1: Those are the ones we should be watching and calling out.

1:28:00 Speaker 1: So what else do you get for us for a video?

1:28:02 Speaker 6: I have.

1:28:05 Speaker 1: This time?

1:28:05 Speaker 2: Instead? This was I actual meant to show this last week.

1:28:09 Speaker 2: I got distrected.

1:28:11 Speaker 1: So this is Washington.

1:28:13 Speaker 2: Wait for it? You see it? Oh ship spoke the clouds.

1:28:22 Speaker 1: And it curved if I'm not mistaken, right, Yeah, it's

1:28:27 Speaker 1: like hooks like it's it's on a oh and then

1:28:32 Speaker 1: it turns again.

1:28:34 Speaker 2: What is that? I don't know what it is what.

1:28:41 Speaker 1: So this is a city cam again, so I'm seeing

1:28:44 Speaker 1: a city camp again. That one an awfully good detail.

1:28:52 Speaker 1: That is right over the capitol too.

1:28:57 Speaker 2: Dude, I'm not going to say that's Aliens, but I

1:29:02 Speaker 2: can't identify that from the footage, so that's definitely unidentified.

1:29:06 Speaker 1: So look it goes.

1:29:10 Speaker 2: Warp from the original series movies.

1:29:13 Speaker 1: Right, but you see at the end there, So I've

1:29:16 Speaker 1: I've noticed that at least in the videos I that

1:29:21 Speaker 1: I kind of have the most intrigue in they They

1:29:25 Speaker 1: they sort of have this like ripple effect behind them.

1:29:29 Speaker 1: It's almost like it's uh distorted, and it's like skipping,

1:29:35 Speaker 1: and it has it right at the end, right as

1:29:37 Speaker 1: it gets to the top of the frame, it does

1:29:40 Speaker 1: that like skipping thing distorts. So watch here as it

1:29:45 Speaker 1: goes up, it curls around and then it makes kind

1:29:49 Speaker 1: of like one final change of course and then it

1:29:52 Speaker 1: skips a couple of times. See that. But I'm actually

1:29:58 Speaker 1: i'd be really can you send me this? Yeah, I'd

1:30:02 Speaker 1: like to put this into ah, but we don't have

1:30:05 Speaker 1: the original source video, do we.

1:30:07 Speaker 3: No?

1:30:08 Speaker 1: Ah, that's what we have to do a good job of.

1:30:11 Speaker 1: We have to build a team like that. That's that's

1:30:13 Speaker 1: what I want, Brion, and.

1:30:15 Speaker 2: Uh, good luck.

1:30:21 Speaker 1: I want a team. We're gonna build a Christina Goz.

1:30:26 Speaker 1: We're gonna build. We're gonna build.

1:30:29 Speaker 2: But there's no way you never get come down from us. Friend,

1:30:32 Speaker 2: it's never gonna happen.

1:30:34 Speaker 1: Pree, come on for you, come down one day.

1:30:38 Speaker 2: One day. I'll get the goat doesn't The goat doesn't.

1:30:44 Speaker 1: Guess what's coming tomorrow?

1:30:46 Speaker 2: What's coming tomorrow?

1:30:47 Speaker 1: Tyler camera switcher like in studio. Yeah, and so you

1:30:52 Speaker 1: can have angles. I can have four angles.

1:30:56 Speaker 2: Oh, I mean I have a webcam as well, so

1:30:59 Speaker 2: maybe I could say to angles.

1:31:00 Speaker 1: Just to be yeah, we can actual Well, so we

1:31:05 Speaker 1: got the we got the ship. I don't know what

1:31:09 Speaker 1: model it is, but it's got fo Yeah. Anyway, for

1:31:13 Speaker 1: you nerds out there for content creation, uh, you know

1:31:17 Speaker 1: the I have an audio box that the microphone goes

1:31:21 Speaker 1: into for in studio. And you know the point is

1:31:25 Speaker 1: what we're trying to do is eventually get car to

1:31:28 Speaker 1: uh come live in the United States and then be

1:31:31 Speaker 1: the in house Jamie of of the my Rogan and

1:31:36 Speaker 1: have it you know him in studio producing the show,

1:31:40 Speaker 1: the podcast aspect of it, and you know, while we're

1:31:45 Speaker 1: doing this eventually, so that's that's our goals. Those are

1:31:48 Speaker 1: our goals. So you know, with your help, with some

1:31:51 Speaker 1: super chats, uh, with some memberships, and you know, we'll

1:31:54 Speaker 1: we'll we'll be what we really do. We're gonna be

1:31:58 Speaker 1: putting a lot of effort into the podcast, uh, the

1:32:03 Speaker 1: live show weekly and you know, doing a lot more

1:32:07 Speaker 1: fun stuff as well. You know, I have ideas for

1:32:11 Speaker 1: a certain show that I pitched to Cary, and I think,

1:32:15 Speaker 1: you know, the debate is whether it's shooting it practical,

1:32:18 Speaker 1: but it's it's really cool. So uh yeah, anyway, that

1:32:22 Speaker 1: was I wanted to.

1:32:23 Speaker 2: Just I wanted to just segue onto that. But tomorrow

1:32:26 Speaker 2: we have the premiere of the edit.

1:32:30 Speaker 1: Which is already available for members. By the way, as

1:32:32 Speaker 1: soon as Cary gets it to me, I put it

1:32:35 Speaker 1: right up for members. I might even.

1:32:39 Speaker 2: I haven't spoken to you about because.

1:32:42 Speaker 1: Again, shot it contact in the desert, just a simple

1:32:46 Speaker 1: two camera angle. I could have sent you the angles

1:32:49 Speaker 1: that the cameraman shot, but I really didn't want to go,

1:32:53 Speaker 1: you know, with a with a sweeping cam on this

1:32:57 Speaker 1: one because it was this one was the first one

1:32:59 Speaker 1: we shot when we got to Contact. I actually the

1:33:03 Speaker 1: first one I shot was with Greg Rodgers, but that

1:33:06 Speaker 1: was at the hotel. The first interview I shot in

1:33:10 Speaker 1: the media room at Contact was with Peter, so we

1:33:14 Speaker 1: were still kind of like shaking off and getting used

1:33:17 Speaker 1: to the setup. So, but fascinating conversation about you know,

1:33:22 Speaker 1: Peter's you know, Peter was kind of lost a lot

1:33:26 Speaker 1: of credibility at one point for his for his investigation

1:33:31 Speaker 1: into Randallsham and he has since gained it back. And

1:33:34 Speaker 1: then I worked at them again at the Exeter UFO Festival,

1:33:37 Speaker 1: and I really, I really love Peter.

1:33:40 Speaker 2: I really do like a cool production story. I didn't

1:33:45 Speaker 2: know about that until I didn't know he was. Someone

1:33:47 Speaker 2: pointed it out to me on next and I was like, wait,

1:33:49 Speaker 2: what that's the thing.

1:33:50 Speaker 1: Yeah, So again that was me not having the information,

1:33:54 Speaker 1: and you know, you weren't there, We didn't really know

1:33:57 Speaker 1: each other when we weren't really working like that together yet.

1:34:00 Speaker 2: Yeah, not at that point.

1:34:01 Speaker 1: But the Contact Desert twenty twenty six. You better believe

1:34:07 Speaker 1: that Cary and I are going and you better believe

1:34:10 Speaker 1: that the content that we produce out of that like

1:34:14 Speaker 1: it's going to be fucking incredible. It's gone.

1:34:18 Speaker 2: I'm excited for it. I know there are people in

1:34:21 Speaker 2: the chat watching, so Enzo I hope will be a contact.

1:34:26 Speaker 2: I've met him at Contact a few times. Who else

1:34:30 Speaker 2: I think maybe Echo Echo might come.

1:34:36 Speaker 1: Well. This the contact in Contact twenty twenty five was

1:34:39 Speaker 1: the biggest one, the most attendance they've had ever, and

1:34:46 Speaker 1: I think next year is going to be even bigger,

1:34:48 Speaker 1: just because you know, these kind of things build. You know,

1:34:53 Speaker 1: I walked in so I you know, Contact of the

1:34:57 Speaker 1: Desert was fucking crazy for me, Like it was the

1:35:02 Speaker 1: first time I had ever been. I got, you know,

1:35:06 Speaker 1: Earl Gray Anderson, who was a mentor of mine, passes away, right,

1:35:11 Speaker 1: and he's supposed to do some some introductions because he's

1:35:15 Speaker 1: early and he's Earl fucking Anderson, and you know, he's

1:35:19 Speaker 1: the he was the Moufon director for Southern California.

1:35:22 Speaker 2: It's the that's the like as I met him in

1:35:26 Speaker 2: twenty four years.

1:35:27 Speaker 1: Yeah, as a director of any chapter of Moufon Southern

1:35:32 Speaker 1: California is that is the one, right, that's the chapter

1:35:39 Speaker 1: of Moufon. So there was a lot of stress involved

1:35:42 Speaker 1: in that job. It's a it's a volunteer job. There

1:35:45 Speaker 1: is a lot of cases in southern California, so Earl

1:35:48 Speaker 1: ends up tragically tragically passing away, and it's kind of

1:35:54 Speaker 1: fitting in a way that then you know I had

1:35:59 Speaker 1: made a good impression on some of the people that

1:36:02 Speaker 1: are behind the scenes at Contact by having you on

1:36:06 Speaker 1: to talk about Dark Alliance, and then I bonded with

1:36:09 Speaker 1: those persons over you and the similarities, and I think

1:36:15 Speaker 1: the realness that that person saw that I had. They

1:36:19 Speaker 1: were like, hey, when so when the when the unfortunate

1:36:22 Speaker 1: opportunity was there, they asked me to fill in. I

1:36:27 Speaker 1: got to introduce. They shifted it around, so then I

1:36:30 Speaker 1: introduced Chris Bledsoe. Introducing Chris bledso is not easy. It's

1:36:35 Speaker 1: so I had to get up on stage for the

1:36:38 Speaker 1: for the first time ever at a Contacts at a

1:36:41 Speaker 1: UFO conference. I'd done comic cons and other things like that,

1:36:45 Speaker 1: but at the biggest UFO conference, I had to get

1:36:48 Speaker 1: up in front of the people and introduce someone like

1:36:52 Speaker 1: Chris Bledsoe and I got I was shaking, but then

1:36:57 Speaker 1: I fell Earl and uh, you know he he had

1:37:01 Speaker 1: the record I think for most appearances on my podcast,

1:37:04 Speaker 1: aside from Bassett which is the next interview you're working on,

1:37:07 Speaker 1: ironically the one we filmed there. But that's what I

1:37:11 Speaker 1: mean when I say that I've been fortunate enough to

1:37:18 Speaker 1: be in the right place at the right time so

1:37:21 Speaker 1: many times, whether it was to facilitate conversations with nuclear

1:37:25 Speaker 1: witnesses like Salas and Mace and Salas and Burleson at

1:37:29 Speaker 1: both the hearings, you know, I found what I was

1:37:33 Speaker 1: meant to do, and I was meant to facilitate conversation,

1:37:38 Speaker 1: to produce this kind of content and work with someone

1:37:42 Speaker 1: like you. I found my place, and I feel like

1:37:45 Speaker 1: a lot of people in the UFO community, And I

1:37:47 Speaker 1: guess that's the moral to all of this, to everything

1:37:49 Speaker 1: that I've been saying, is instead of sitting on X

1:37:54 Speaker 1: and just falling into the drama of the Lou cru

1:37:59 Speaker 1: versus Den Lou crew or this and that, if we're

1:38:03 Speaker 1: defending and I've said this many times, if you're defending

1:38:05 Speaker 1: your favorite UFO researcher or experiencer or advocate like it's

1:38:11 Speaker 1: your fantasy football team, then you have an issue. We

1:38:16 Speaker 1: need to step back. This is a team sport and

1:38:20 Speaker 1: everyone's vowing to be the quarterback. It's like we need

1:38:25 Speaker 1: special teams. We need the punter, we need the offensive line,

1:38:29 Speaker 1: we need a united front.

1:38:33 Speaker 2: And now I feel like we need I feel like

1:38:35 Speaker 2: we need the silent.

1:38:36 Speaker 1: Middle to like, yeah, we need the spectators.

1:38:40 Speaker 2: Not be silent anymore. When you've got both extremes on

1:38:43 Speaker 2: on the spectrum. You've got the super believers and the

1:38:45 Speaker 2: super whatever the heck they are fighting and dosing and

1:38:52 Speaker 2: it's just been this never ending war and people get

1:38:54 Speaker 2: used as porns. And if you associate with one personnel

1:38:56 Speaker 2: and then you're bind by the other group and then

1:38:59 Speaker 2: they swell room. It's all this stuff. It's never ending.

1:39:02 Speaker 2: I mean, this has been I mean I've been tangentially

1:39:05 Speaker 2: involved in some of this since since to twenty twenty.

1:39:09 Speaker 2: Just because some people on one side didn't like my

1:39:11 Speaker 2: opinion about luel Azando, I get roped into this huge thing.

1:39:14 Speaker 2: So I know all about it. And I feel like

1:39:19 Speaker 2: there's a huge majority in the middle who have nothing

1:39:22 Speaker 2: to do with any of this, and all of it's

1:39:24 Speaker 2: just being fired over their heads and they're just like,

1:39:27 Speaker 2: they don't say anything. They see it happening, and it's

1:39:30 Speaker 2: just what it is, right right, And I feel like

1:39:32 Speaker 2: that group of people that silent majority in the middle

1:39:36 Speaker 2: should be less silent and say, hey, fucking knock it off,

1:39:42 Speaker 2: both sides of you, like this is not substantively important.

1:39:47 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I would agree. I would agree, and

1:39:51 Speaker 1: I think, but what I mean is like when you

1:39:56 Speaker 1: get out there, when you get out there and you

1:40:00 Speaker 1: go to something like a hearing, and when like I

1:40:05 Speaker 1: can't describe it, but when you're in the room and

1:40:09 Speaker 1: you're watching silence brief a sitting member of Congress, and

1:40:15 Speaker 1: you made that happen right without you? That without you,

1:40:20 Speaker 1: that does not happen simply period. It doesn't happen. You

1:40:27 Speaker 1: put your ego aside, like I was, so I and

1:40:30 Speaker 1: I'm not like I hear. I'm not like like pumping

1:40:35 Speaker 1: air at myself. What I'm saying is and I'm not

1:40:38 Speaker 1: better than anyone. Like I can be fucking petty, and

1:40:41 Speaker 1: I can be annoying, and I can be you know, condescending,

1:40:47 Speaker 1: and I know all these things because I'm very self

1:40:49 Speaker 1: aware about it, and I try to be the best

1:40:52 Speaker 1: version I can be for the most part, and I

1:40:54 Speaker 1: think I am. I try to stay neutral. You know,

1:40:57 Speaker 1: I've made mistakes, but we all, we all need to

1:41:04 Speaker 1: be able to put our like I wish more people

1:41:07 Speaker 1: could experience things in like like actually, whether it's investigating

1:41:12 Speaker 1: a case and becoming an investigator for whatever entity, whether

1:41:16 Speaker 1: it's move On or the International Uphobia or whatever, or

1:41:20 Speaker 1: like doing actual work, like whether it's volunteer work or

1:41:24 Speaker 1: you work with whatever, whatever it is, once you find

1:41:28 Speaker 1: an actual place something you're passionate about, whether that's you know,

1:41:32 Speaker 1: talking to members of Congress and interviewing like people, whatever

1:41:38 Speaker 1: it ends up being, you know, being a producer on

1:41:40 Speaker 1: a show that you know does this, does story, whatever

1:41:46 Speaker 1: it contributes them this way, like if more people can

1:41:49 Speaker 1: find their place and what they like and what they

1:41:52 Speaker 1: want to get, get out there and get it. Go

1:41:55 Speaker 1: change it. You don't like it, go change it. If

1:41:58 Speaker 1: you don't like it, stand out, speak on it, like

1:42:03 Speaker 1: get involved other than tweeting.

1:42:06 Speaker 2: Well, I feel like there's a lot that there's a

1:42:08 Speaker 2: large sector of euthology that doesn't take place on Twitter.

1:42:10 Speaker 2: So I mean that's what I mean, Like it's an

1:42:14 Speaker 2: echo chamber. It's a very loud, loud minority on both

1:42:18 Speaker 2: sides that fight each other and act like what they're

1:42:21 Speaker 2: doing on a microblogging site means anything at all, which

1:42:26 Speaker 2: I not really in the grand scheme of things, like, yeah,

1:42:29 Speaker 2: you might get an occasional quote from someone in a space,

1:42:31 Speaker 2: or you might break the story, but like it's more

1:42:35 Speaker 2: for like real time news and not like doing important work,

1:42:40 Speaker 2: if that makes any sense. Like important work in this

1:42:43 Speaker 2: subject is not going to take place in a Twitter space.

1:42:46 Speaker 2: It's just not. It's it's too low boundaridth for that kind.

1:42:49 Speaker 1: Of work, right, But it has its place, It has its.

1:42:55 Speaker 2: I would disagree with that, but that's just a me

1:42:57 Speaker 2: thing because I absolutely hate pot spaces.

1:42:59 Speaker 1: But but but I'm saying spaces are you know, spaces

1:43:03 Speaker 1: aside because space, you can argue what we're doing is

1:43:05 Speaker 1: a glorified space, right, It's just a different way of

1:43:09 Speaker 1: doing it.

1:43:10 Speaker 2: Oh well no, no, no, I mean we're able to

1:43:12 Speaker 2: see each other and communicate and actually discourse instead of

1:43:16 Speaker 2: it being and then have it or you can pop

1:43:20 Speaker 2: in and talk ship.

1:43:24 Speaker 1: But I guess, okay, I see that it has as

1:43:26 Speaker 1: its place. But the like Internet, like it does have

1:43:31 Speaker 1: its place, like when Alexando or someone shows a picture

1:43:37 Speaker 1: and it can immediately be debunked, like with what happened

1:43:42 Speaker 1: at the thing in Congress where Alexander Unfortunately, I'm bringing

1:43:45 Speaker 1: Alexando up again. And I don't mean to pick on him,

1:43:48 Speaker 1: because you know, I really don't. Yeah, I I, like

1:43:54 Speaker 1: I said, I would love to interview Alexando. I have

1:43:57 Speaker 1: a lot of I have a lot of questions, uh,

1:44:02 Speaker 1: and I would very much treat him respectively, respectfully, with

1:44:07 Speaker 1: respect and you know, cordially. But I would ask very

1:44:12 Speaker 1: good questions and you know, not be afraid, uh to

1:44:18 Speaker 1: to ask the ones that some people might not be

1:44:20 Speaker 1: comfortable with.

1:44:22 Speaker 2: I think the most important thing that people can ask

1:44:25 Speaker 2: in an interview or do in an interview is when

1:44:27 Speaker 2: you ask a question and they didn't fucking answer it.

1:44:30 Speaker 2: You say, I'm sorry, but that was not that was

1:44:32 Speaker 2: an answer to some question, but unfortunately it wasn't an

1:44:35 Speaker 2: answer to my question.

1:44:36 Speaker 1: And it was really good at that and I recommend

1:44:40 Speaker 1: the content. Uh So it's this God, oh my god,

1:44:45 Speaker 1: why is this happening to me today? I can't remember anybody?

1:44:52 Speaker 2: Geez is it the financial guy? No user comes to mind.

1:44:57 Speaker 2: There's a guy who the interviews like young young zoomers

1:45:01 Speaker 2: or whatever about zoomers.

1:45:04 Speaker 1: The hell's a zoomer?

1:45:05 Speaker 2: Oh my god, you really are a boom Tyler.

1:45:09 Speaker 1: Millennia. I think I was born in ninety three.

1:45:12 Speaker 2: I mean, so was I.

1:45:14 Speaker 1: But okay, I'm definitely that boomer mindset.

1:45:17 Speaker 2: I guess zoomer is like, what's the opposite of a boomer?

1:45:22 Speaker 1: A zoomer is the opposite of a boomer that doesn't

1:45:25 Speaker 1: give you a clear picture, or what's a boomer? Uh,

1:45:29 Speaker 1: they're an old person, well not an older person who like,

1:45:34 Speaker 1: for me, the ideal boomer is like a Fox News dad.

1:45:38 Speaker 2: I don't think there's any ideal ideal in the boomer industry.

1:45:44 Speaker 2: But a zoomer is basically is basically anyone born after

1:45:50 Speaker 2: the millennium.

1:45:51 Speaker 1: All right, yeah, I don't I can't keep up with

1:45:54 Speaker 1: that ship. So I think it's Alex g No, that

1:46:00 Speaker 1: can't be right.

1:46:02 Speaker 2: Oh right, that's what I would saying. So this guy

1:46:03 Speaker 2: has like young young people on who are like in

1:46:06 Speaker 2: debt or they they made bad financial decisions, and then

1:46:09 Speaker 2: he like he'll he'll like quiz them on it, and

1:46:13 Speaker 2: then they'll give some bullshit answer and then he's like, well,

1:46:16 Speaker 2: you're not answering my question.

1:46:18 Speaker 6: Like that.

1:46:20 Speaker 2: Those are the best interviews, Like, yeah, you're never gonna

1:46:23 Speaker 2: get everybody because once people know that that's your interview style,

1:46:28 Speaker 2: or that can be your interview style. Either they're gonna

1:46:30 Speaker 2: put stipulations or they flat out won't go on your

1:46:32 Speaker 2: show because most people want pr they.

1:46:35 Speaker 1: Don't want Tommy G. Sorry guys. So Tommy G on

1:46:40 Speaker 1: YouTube Amazing Amazing Amazing channel does a lot of like

1:46:48 Speaker 1: documentary style videos. But he is he he's like this

1:46:55 Speaker 1: very soft spoken like he's he's got this like he

1:47:01 Speaker 1: you know, not not not not that high. I'm making

1:47:04 Speaker 1: him sound very like kind of like feminine, but I

1:47:06 Speaker 1: don't really do impressions well. But he's got this like

1:47:11 Speaker 1: kind of like his very unique voice and it's like hi,

1:47:17 Speaker 1: you like, but he's also like very jacked. So he's

1:47:21 Speaker 1: got he's got this big he's got this big presence,

1:47:24 Speaker 1: but it kind of a softer voice. And but someone

1:47:28 Speaker 1: will like steam roll him or try to steam roll him,

1:47:33 Speaker 1: and then he'll go like, wait, you just steamrolled me,

1:47:37 Speaker 1: like you didn't answer the question. Then like he'll like

1:47:40 Speaker 1: he'll just like call it out like very very like

1:47:45 Speaker 1: like like it's I hate to even say it, but

1:47:49 Speaker 1: like maybe on the spectrum a little bit like the

1:47:53 Speaker 1: way he calls it out, like my the girl I

1:47:56 Speaker 1: am dating is on the spectrum, so like I see

1:47:58 Speaker 1: the same thing in her. He's like, there's that I

1:48:02 Speaker 1: And I mean that with sincerity like and genuineness, like

1:48:05 Speaker 1: the way he like he won't if you don't answer

1:48:10 Speaker 1: his question, he just circles back and then tells you

1:48:14 Speaker 1: exactly how you just like circled around it. It's just

1:48:18 Speaker 1: it's very.

1:48:20 Speaker 2: You need something like that. For a while, I thought

1:48:23 Speaker 2: about making you know, like content copy content cop. I

1:48:27 Speaker 2: wanted to do that for upology, like UFO content cop,

1:48:31 Speaker 2: but I just never got around to it.

1:48:34 Speaker 1: Yeah.

1:48:34 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it would have been like it would have

1:48:36 Speaker 2: been that, it would have been examining these interviews and

1:48:38 Speaker 2: saying exactly what they fucking did wrong.

1:48:40 Speaker 1: Yeah. Shout out shout out to Tommy G for tackling

1:48:44 Speaker 1: the subjects that rarely get talked about or rarely get

1:48:50 Speaker 1: like the people he has involved. Although if I could

1:48:53 Speaker 1: give him some advice, I would say, stop shooting at

1:48:56 Speaker 1: such a high frame rate. His car's gonna go watch

1:49:01 Speaker 1: and see what I mean now, But he shoots a

1:49:03 Speaker 1: very high frame rate.

1:49:04 Speaker 2: It gives it this like very Oh, I'll just be

1:49:07 Speaker 2: sixty fbs. Yeah, it's just like we're at thirty right now,

1:49:10 Speaker 2: and it's it's.

1:49:11 Speaker 1: Yeah, he shoots a hot like super high frame rate

1:49:14 Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh god, it's like it's like it's

1:49:19 Speaker 1: it's like when you've taken mushrooms and you get HD vision.

1:49:23 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I was.

1:49:24 Speaker 2: Gonna use So you remember when the first Hobbit movie

1:49:28 Speaker 2: came out and they released it in forty eight frames

1:49:30 Speaker 2: for like some weird reason they tried to.

1:49:32 Speaker 1: I didn't watch it.

1:49:33 Speaker 2: I saw that in the theaters and forty eight frames

1:49:35 Speaker 2: a second and it was the worst fucking film experience

1:49:39 Speaker 2: of my life. And I'd waited so long to see

1:49:42 Speaker 2: the Hobbit movie and I'm sitting there like, what the

1:49:45 Speaker 2: fuck is this?

1:49:47 Speaker 1: Like the whole thing is like a odd frame rate

1:49:50 Speaker 1: to choose what.

1:49:50 Speaker 2: It's double twenty four right, so it's just double. They're

1:49:53 Speaker 2: just doubling the speed at which the film is is

1:49:56 Speaker 2: exposed and.

1:49:57 Speaker 1: It yeah, no, but if it doesn't do any think

1:50:00 Speaker 1: for the actual like if it doesn't add to.

1:50:02 Speaker 2: The I mean it did, it made it. I know

1:50:07 Speaker 2: it made it. It made it smoother, but it was

1:50:09 Speaker 2: also it felt so artificial compared to normal film. Right,

1:50:15 Speaker 2: It was like how I never want to see this again.

1:50:18 Speaker 2: Like I was always I'm a PC player right on gaming,

1:50:21 Speaker 2: so I'm always like I'm trying to get sixty frames

1:50:24 Speaker 2: and trying to get over over one hundred frames whatever.

1:50:27 Speaker 2: That one cinema experience proved to me that cinema needs

1:50:32 Speaker 2: to be twenty four frames a second. Yeah, Like it

1:50:36 Speaker 2: just has to be, because that's that's just how we're

1:50:39 Speaker 2: how we've been culturally ingrained.

1:50:41 Speaker 1: For something you can play with aspect ratios, but you

1:50:44 Speaker 1: can't really you can't really like.

1:50:46 Speaker 2: The only time you want to shoot in the higher

1:50:47 Speaker 2: frame rate is if you're going to slow it down.

1:50:50 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, very good point, very good point. And

1:50:53 Speaker 1: that's what like Zack Snyder is like his slow most

1:51:00 Speaker 1: of is I could you it's really just like films. Yeah, arguably,

1:51:07 Speaker 1: But what James I thought, you know, with Superman and

1:51:12 Speaker 1: even with the Suicide Squad. Uh, you could start and

1:51:15 Speaker 1: I'm about to nerd out here, uh and kind of

1:51:17 Speaker 1: like reach back into my old days of podcasting with

1:51:21 Speaker 1: Pop Culture Corner. But what I really like what James

1:51:25 Speaker 1: Gunn is doing with DC so starting because with Guardians

1:51:29 Speaker 1: he was very rigid his his shooting style. It was

1:51:34 Speaker 1: very you know paint by numbers, play by the like,

1:51:39 Speaker 1: play by the rules. Yeah, of course, and he wanted

1:51:43 Speaker 1: to get it right right, he wanted to get and

1:51:46 Speaker 1: there was no Again, the studios made by I mean,

1:51:52 Speaker 1: films made by committee ultimately suffer like the created, the

1:51:58 Speaker 1: creator creation and the creator suffer and it's terrible. But

1:52:04 Speaker 1: and that's the problem. That was the huge problem at DC,

1:52:08 Speaker 1: even though it was in a different way. Leadership kept

1:52:14 Speaker 1: coming in and fucking everything up. But with James Gunn

1:52:18 Speaker 1: and Saffron, what I really like what James Gunn is

1:52:21 Speaker 1: doing is exploring camera movement. And you know, I think

1:52:26 Speaker 1: he used a a really wide angle lens for some

1:52:30 Speaker 1: of the shots of Superman flying and people had it

1:52:34 Speaker 1: was kind of like jarring people, jarring to people. And

1:52:37 Speaker 1: like they said, David corn Sweat was like it looked

1:52:41 Speaker 1: like there was you know, his face was like it

1:52:44 Speaker 1: made him look uglier.

1:52:47 Speaker 2: And again like how they shot that, I saw like

1:52:50 Speaker 2: a behind the scenes thing where he's something like he's

1:52:53 Speaker 2: laying on the gyro and then you know, like the

1:52:55 Speaker 2: rack around scene.

1:52:56 Speaker 1: Yeah, I watched the whole thing. Yeah, so that for

1:53:00 Speaker 1: the audience, like.

1:53:01 Speaker 2: They so then they wrap around the sky as he's

1:53:04 Speaker 2: flying by and they blow wind and whatever in his face.

1:53:06 Speaker 2: So although didn't they see g as eyes or something? No, No,

1:53:11 Speaker 2: James gun He related, he released he removed the shot

1:53:14 Speaker 2: I remember now. He removed the shot from the final

1:53:17 Speaker 2: from the final card changed it. Yeah. Oh no, there's

1:53:22 Speaker 2: one shot where in the original trailer Can hits him

1:53:24 Speaker 2: on the back of the head, and they changed that

1:53:28 Speaker 2: shot to change that, and then they changed the one

1:53:31 Speaker 2: of Superman flying where he looks like his cross eyed.

1:53:34 Speaker 2: They got rid of that shot.

1:53:35 Speaker 1: Yeah. So, but James Gunn confirmed that there was no

1:53:37 Speaker 1: c G. I in, there is no CGI used on

1:53:41 Speaker 1: David gordanswhen in those shots of him.

1:53:43 Speaker 2: Flying helicopter shot and a physical wrap around on the

1:53:48 Speaker 2: actual screen, why, I thought it was awesome. I was like,

1:53:52 Speaker 2: that's that's actually like better than you would have got

1:53:57 Speaker 2: from Man of Steel and Steel was good. But that

1:54:00 Speaker 2: was all CG.

1:54:01 Speaker 1: So yeah, very very CG. But uh anyway, yeah, back

1:54:05 Speaker 1: on uh, back on track here. So tonight uh we

1:54:10 Speaker 1: covered uh Alex Jones and the Court's ruling against his appeal.

1:54:19 Speaker 1: Uh for the one point for I think it's billion

1:54:23 Speaker 1: dollars settlement and you know the inevitable bankruptcy of Info

1:54:31 Speaker 1: Wars and Alex Jones. I think that would pretty much

1:54:33 Speaker 1: cause it. Uh so there's a huge, you know debate about, uh,

1:54:39 Speaker 1: what happens next for Alex. We also covered uh, some

1:54:44 Speaker 1: weird drama with Alzando and how that took place and

1:54:49 Speaker 1: the date that Age of Disclosure will debut, what its

1:54:53 Speaker 1: theatrical run will bring, and why they've chosen the route chosen.

1:54:59 Speaker 1: Is there anything else that you wanted.

1:55:01 Speaker 2: To not especially I do want so anybody listening, obviously,

1:55:08 Speaker 2: if you're listening to the audio, this is a very

1:55:09 Speaker 2: visual show, so we highly advise you come over to

1:55:13 Speaker 2: YouTube or x or rumble. I think that's where we

1:55:16 Speaker 2: are and check the well. Yeah, I had another thing

1:55:21 Speaker 2: I was going to say, and I've totally forgotten it. Yeah,

1:55:29 Speaker 2: scan the QR codes, hit the like button. Oh that

1:55:33 Speaker 2: was it. If anybody in the chat, anybody listening or watching,

1:55:36 Speaker 2: is going going to go physically to a premiere showing

1:55:40 Speaker 2: of Age of Disclosure, let us know. We love to

1:55:43 Speaker 2: the interview.

1:55:44 Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be great.

1:55:46 Speaker 2: I'd love to talk to somebody that physically.

1:55:49 Speaker 1: It's pretty d C and l A very fitting. That's

1:55:54 Speaker 1: a smart choice for d C obviously having a lot

1:55:58 Speaker 1: of people in d C in it. That's pretty smart move.

1:56:02 Speaker 1: And it's like it's also meant for that marketing kind of.

1:56:06 Speaker 1: It's like it's definitely used marketing wise. So that's gonna

1:56:10 Speaker 1: be cool to see it finally and see what it

1:56:14 Speaker 1: has to offer. Uh, last question, do you think it

1:56:17 Speaker 1: will move the needle at all?

1:56:20 Speaker 2: The needle is a lie, that's my answer. Where can

1:56:24 Speaker 2: people find you? Tyler?

1:56:27 Speaker 3: Oh?

1:56:28 Speaker 1: God, Well, you can find me on X Disclosure pod

1:56:34 Speaker 1: or search Total Disclosure. Look for the red ufo on

1:56:37 Speaker 1: any platform like YouTube. The podcast is on any podcast platform,

1:56:43 Speaker 1: so you're gonna just search Total Disclosure. All the wigs

1:56:45 Speaker 1: are in the description below. What about you, Cary? Where

1:56:50 Speaker 1: can they find you?

1:56:51 Speaker 2: You can find me on the internet at Fires of Truth.

1:56:53 Speaker 1: Waiting for a cub.

1:56:55 Speaker 2: I was waiting for a cube.

1:56:56 Speaker 1: Okay.

1:56:57 Speaker 2: I thought you were gonna go out Where can they

1:56:58 Speaker 2: find you? But it's okay, you can find me.

1:57:04 Speaker 1: Oh Jesus, yeah, I didn't think it was that loud.

1:57:08 Speaker 2: That's very loud. You find me on Twitter at Fires

1:57:12 Speaker 2: the Truth. You can find me moderating the chat in

1:57:18 Speaker 2: the truth Seekers Discord or the Truth seekers show. If

1:57:20 Speaker 2: you like documentary films, there is one on Amazon Prime

1:57:25 Speaker 2: or two B or Apple TV called Dark Alliance The

1:57:28 Speaker 2: Inside Story of the Cosmic con Go watch it. I

1:57:33 Speaker 2: had a huge hand in the in the making of it.

1:57:35 Speaker 2: I made it with Darcy Weir. I narrate it, and

1:57:38 Speaker 2: I have a cameo. Very cool. There are there's two versions,

1:57:43 Speaker 2: but they're the same. They're the same thing. There's there's

1:57:46 Speaker 2: you can watch it in episodic form, or you can

1:57:48 Speaker 2: buy it as one long flow with just the credits

1:57:51 Speaker 2: between one and two cut out.

1:57:54 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I watched it as a wonner.

1:57:59 Speaker 2: Right. Well, the reason we did that is because Amazon

1:58:01 Speaker 2: TV doesn't like TV shows like the way that the

1:58:05 Speaker 2: algorithm works. Amazon Prime Video doesn't like TV shows. They

1:58:08 Speaker 2: actually like films way more.

1:58:10 Speaker 1: So.

1:58:10 Speaker 2: That's why we recut it because it was it got

1:58:14 Speaker 2: it had like no visibility in the algorithm because it

1:58:16 Speaker 2: was it was like a self published TV show as

1:58:18 Speaker 2: opposed to a self published movie. Well, yeah, we just

1:58:22 Speaker 2: redid it.

1:58:23 Speaker 1: Darcy also released the past.

1:58:28 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's again I was like, why did you

1:58:33 Speaker 2: do that? I think that's why After that release, I

1:58:36 Speaker 2: think that's why we we pivoted away with because I mean,

1:58:41 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know yes or no with that.

1:58:46 Speaker 2: But I assume the reason that we that Dark Lights

1:58:49 Speaker 2: one was recut and re released as a film was

1:58:52 Speaker 2: because the visibility of the series is series series.

1:59:00 Speaker 1: And that because Dark Alliance, you know what, that's kind

1:59:04 Speaker 1: of I need.

1:59:04 Speaker 2: To I watched the Pascal Google one when it came out.

1:59:07 Speaker 2: I need to rewatch that because I remember it being

1:59:09 Speaker 2: pretty good.

1:59:10 Speaker 1: Is there a trailer for Dark Alliance that we could show?

1:59:13 Speaker 1: I don't think we've showed it, yes yet on the show.

1:59:16 Speaker 2: Come on, it's on the IMDb page.

1:59:19 Speaker 1: Come on, pull it out. I have an im We'll

1:59:22 Speaker 1: pull out on that. I have an IMDb page too.

1:59:25 Speaker 1: Come on, let's get real.

1:59:27 Speaker 2: Yeah, you worked in Hollywood. I'm a country bumpkin from

1:59:30 Speaker 2: the UK. I shouldn't be here, dude.

1:59:34 Speaker 1: Anyone is a filmmaker. If they pick up a camera,

1:59:40 Speaker 1: just go make a movie. Do Do Do Do Do

1:59:42 Speaker 1: Do Do Do.

1:59:45 Speaker 2: So. I would love it if anybody watching could go

1:59:47 Speaker 2: and check out this film that I made with Darcy.

1:59:51 Speaker 1: It's actually really good.

1:59:52 Speaker 2: It's like I had a lot of fun. It's like

1:59:54 Speaker 2: four years. That's great.

2:00:01 Speaker 1: Gaya and the cybersuckers are the dark forces.

2:00:04 Speaker 2: All right, So my clients are not the dark force.

2:00:06 Speaker 7: No, But I would say to those of you that

2:00:12 Speaker 7: are supporting him and helping him to defend himself, what's

2:00:17 Speaker 7: he defending himself from? Who is the dark side? Because see,

2:00:22 Speaker 7: if you really look at it and dissect it, no

2:00:25 Speaker 7: one is suing Corey. He's the one suing everybody. Nobody's

2:00:29 Speaker 7: suing him.

2:00:31 Speaker 1: Who is the dark force? Who is the cabal? Yeah,

2:00:33 Speaker 1: the cab?

2:00:39 Speaker 3: You know. He said things like I couldn't couldn't believe,

2:00:42 Speaker 3: to be honest with He told me he was talking

2:00:44 Speaker 3: about twenty and back and bases.

2:00:47 Speaker 1: On Mars and the moon and all this, although none

2:00:50 Speaker 1: of that was in his book.

2:00:51 Speaker 3: I do believe that there was an information contamination.

2:00:55 Speaker 6: I was contacted by Roger Ranso or Roger Richards, who

2:01:00 Speaker 6: at the time was Corey Goods business partner manager, something

2:01:05 Speaker 6: to that effect. I believe he contacted me in about

2:01:09 Speaker 6: March twenty seventeen. I think if you look up sensational

2:01:16 Speaker 6: in the dictionary, you'll probably find David Wilcock's face in there.

2:01:20 Speaker 6: Like it is kind of like a cult cult tactics,

2:01:23 Speaker 6: cult like behaviors that are going on around that group.

2:01:26 Speaker 7: So I called Corey and I said, Corey, I'm calling

2:01:29 Speaker 7: on behalf of David. How much of a percentage is

2:01:33 Speaker 7: David gonna get? Corey said to me, I'm not giving

2:01:36 Speaker 7: David a percentage.

2:01:39 Speaker 6: Corey literally called himself the Enoch of our modern times.

2:01:42 Speaker 6: And David claims to have all these insiders and they

2:01:46 Speaker 6: propped themselves up to be these larger than life personalities.

2:01:50 Speaker 7: Hundreds of people have been on Guya having different TV

2:01:53 Speaker 7: shows and different personalities. Have any of them turned around

2:01:57 Speaker 7: and sued Gaya nobody, but we're good.

2:02:01 Speaker 1: David is going to lead a con conversation to raise

2:02:04 Speaker 1: our classes.

2:02:05 Speaker 2: To Bill William Popkins.

2:02:09 Speaker 3: I forget the name of the company that created the

2:02:12 Speaker 3: sky net in the Terminator films. He said he started

2:02:16 Speaker 3: Cyberdye years before the Terminator film came out.

2:02:21 Speaker 6: Jesus, let's go back to the beginning. I first met

2:02:24 Speaker 6: Corey and David. Well, let me back up a little

2:02:27 Speaker 6: bit from there.

2:02:28 Speaker 1: So I.

2:02:35 Speaker 2: Urke alliance. So so I see someone in the chat going,

2:02:44 Speaker 2: oh my god, haven't seen this. Please go check that out.

2:02:47 Speaker 2: That's something that I worked on for a long time.

2:02:49 Speaker 2: I wrote a large majority of it. I know rated it.

2:02:53 Speaker 2: Please go and go and watch it. Watching it back

2:02:56 Speaker 2: at the beginning, I was like, wait a minute, I

2:02:58 Speaker 2: remember that's actually the old version of the trailer. I

2:03:01 Speaker 2: rescored it within the Hall of the Mountain King. I

2:03:03 Speaker 2: have it somewhere. It's so much better. But that's not

2:03:07 Speaker 2: a bad trailer by any stretch of the imagination. But

2:03:11 Speaker 2: I remember there was I had to do some work

2:03:13 Speaker 2: and rescore that trailer, so I added in the Hall

2:03:17 Speaker 2: of the Mountain King and it fit perfectly. It was

2:03:20 Speaker 2: like such an inspired choice, and I wish that I

2:03:25 Speaker 2: had shown that version because it was a lot more

2:03:27 Speaker 2: upbeat than the the cult thrillery vibe we got from them,

2:03:31 Speaker 2: which is still accurate to what we did.

2:03:33 Speaker 1: Well. I think overall, that is actually a pretty pretty

2:03:38 Speaker 1: great trailer for Yeah.

2:03:41 Speaker 2: It's a great trailer, and it does you know, someone

2:03:44 Speaker 2: said it did the great job for the first six months,

2:03:46 Speaker 2: and it really.

2:03:48 Speaker 1: It really is like it's almost like one of those

2:03:53 Speaker 1: Netflix documentaries about a cult. It's just this also has

2:03:59 Speaker 1: to do with the UFO, and it's primarily based on

2:04:02 Speaker 1: the like the clear vacuum that this topic occupies of

2:04:13 Speaker 1: people's lives. Because it's everything. It's it becomes like a religion, right,

2:04:18 Speaker 1: like it's it's your reality, and people get so vested

2:04:23 Speaker 1: into these these narratives. And again, I think that's one

2:04:28 Speaker 1: of the fundamental problems here, is like we're dealing with

2:04:32 Speaker 1: such a complex and it's crazy to think about we're

2:04:36 Speaker 1: dealing with such a complex phenomena and you think that

2:04:39 Speaker 1: like like the top minds and beyond it, and you know,

2:04:46 Speaker 1: we're talking about like life after death, what happens? What

2:04:49 Speaker 1: is the soul? Like these New Age kind of like

2:04:53 Speaker 1: questions and like the things that we all wonder, are

2:04:56 Speaker 1: we alone in the universe? What happens after life? I mean,

2:04:59 Speaker 1: what happens through death? Is there afterlife? They're old questions,

2:05:03 Speaker 1: but like the New Age perspective on it and the

2:05:10 Speaker 1: old old perspective on it are similar, but two different worlds. Well,

2:05:19 Speaker 1: it became religion back then, like it morphed into modern

2:05:24 Speaker 1: day religion, and like now people look at it, they're

2:05:28 Speaker 1: a little bit less religious, but they're they're more spiritual.

2:05:32 Speaker 1: But then they are, you know, the ones that like

2:05:37 Speaker 1: to talk about like living in the astral plane and

2:05:40 Speaker 1: like traveling to like other planets for the galactic federation.

2:05:44 Speaker 1: That's also comes with the territory. It's like we there's

2:05:48 Speaker 1: the smartest people, but there's also the most gullible people.

2:05:52 Speaker 2: Well it's a spectrum. You've got serious research all the

2:05:55 Speaker 2: way down to religious appeasement.

2:05:58 Speaker 1: Right, But like what I'm saying is advanced mathematician, Like

2:06:04 Speaker 1: you're going to your community is going to be advanced mathematicians.

2:06:07 Speaker 6: Right.

2:06:08 Speaker 1: It's just the UFO community allows for like really really

2:06:12 Speaker 1: like intelligent people, but then it's also susceptible to people

2:06:16 Speaker 1: that want to take advantage of others and on their

2:06:19 Speaker 1: their their want to believe. That's why it's like it's

2:06:23 Speaker 1: it's cutting edge of of philosophical of like every it's

2:06:29 Speaker 1: the most important story, right, but it's also the most flawed.

2:06:35 Speaker 2: And I saw you actually you posted a comment on

2:06:38 Speaker 2: my post about this exact problem about that being no

2:06:40 Speaker 2: established metric, and my my comment about it was more

2:06:46 Speaker 2: geared towards So say you debunk a video and like

2:06:49 Speaker 2: you can very much prove that that was key framed whatever,

2:06:52 Speaker 2: and then the next day ten accounts will post that

2:06:54 Speaker 2: same video and go oh my god, a UFO and

2:06:56 Speaker 2: they get like two hundred thousand views and if you

2:06:58 Speaker 2: call them out like oh, I'm just asking questions, man,

2:07:01 Speaker 2: It's like that, it just makes the value of debunking

2:07:05 Speaker 2: a video pointless, absolutely pointless. When unless you it's funny

2:07:11 Speaker 2: actually that I said this in the post, like, unless

2:07:15 Speaker 2: unless you go on Joe Rogan or you've got your

2:07:17 Speaker 2: own massive reach, then it's pointless. And then today it's funny.

2:07:20 Speaker 2: I said that because then today I saw a video.

2:07:23 Speaker 2: I actually had it ready to share, but we haven't

2:07:25 Speaker 2: got time today.

2:07:26 Speaker 6: Uh.

2:07:26 Speaker 2: If someone went on Joe Rogan and said that the

2:07:28 Speaker 2: hell fire video was real, and I'm like, this is

2:07:31 Speaker 2: this is exactly what I'm fucking talking about.

2:07:33 Speaker 1: Well, Luna Luna on Danny Jones was like, when he

2:07:37 Speaker 1: asked her what the most like incredible thing that she's seen,

2:07:41 Speaker 1: she said the hell fire missile video.

2:07:44 Speaker 2: And I was like, she has no understanding of parallax.

2:07:46 Speaker 1: I was like, what the fuck? Why would like really

2:07:50 Speaker 1: the hell fire missile video. You couldn't have picked anything else.

2:07:54 Speaker 1: You had default to the latest thing, which is clearly

2:07:58 Speaker 1: like has its issues.

2:08:01 Speaker 2: Yeah, but because it's currently even the.

2:08:04 Speaker 1: Gas station guy that knows me as the UFO guy,

2:08:07 Speaker 1: because we have the studio here, and the gas stations

2:08:10 Speaker 1: right there, so like the studio is visible, and uh

2:08:14 Speaker 1: so people know that I do the podcast and they're

2:08:17 Speaker 1: interested in it. And uh there's actually one guy I

2:08:20 Speaker 1: want to bring on because he's like in a Buddhist

2:08:23 Speaker 1: monk as well, and he and he works at the

2:08:25 Speaker 1: gas station.

2:08:26 Speaker 2: Is like A.

2:08:29 Speaker 1: Like, I don't know, I don't he really doesn't. No, yeah,

2:08:34 Speaker 1: I guess you could say that, but the guy is

2:08:35 Speaker 1: so interesting and every time I have a conversation with him,

2:08:38 Speaker 1: it's like the deepest conversation I've ever had, and it's

2:08:41 Speaker 1: a I was like, dude, I gotta bring you on

2:08:42 Speaker 1: the show.

2:08:44 Speaker 2: Get that man in the in the in the seat, d.

2:08:46 Speaker 1: So as it said, as it as it stands.

2:08:50 Speaker 2: When I'm you know, well, okay, here's my question, and

2:08:53 Speaker 2: then we'll lend on this question because I think it's

2:08:55 Speaker 2: it's good for the audience to think about. So you're

2:08:59 Speaker 2: talking about how there's like these New Age beliefs and

2:09:05 Speaker 2: these extreme beliefs surrounding surrounding UFOs and whatnot, So I

2:09:10 Speaker 2: have a question. Generally, our idea of what a UFO

2:09:16 Speaker 2: craft is has evolved over the years, as in line

2:09:20 Speaker 2: with our own technological understanding. Yes, So like back in

2:09:28 Speaker 2: the fifties it was flying sources and boomerang type shapes

2:09:32 Speaker 2: and it was.

2:09:32 Speaker 1: Cigar eighteen hundred airships.

2:09:35 Speaker 2: Right, So like that connection there leads me to think

2:09:42 Speaker 2: that there is some kind of perceptual aspect to this

2:09:47 Speaker 2: where it's like it exists on the fringes of what

2:09:54 Speaker 2: we think is possible as a collective consciousness, not to

2:09:59 Speaker 2: say to new age, but like collectively, what our vibe is,

2:10:04 Speaker 2: what our technological level is, what the extreme level of

2:10:07 Speaker 2: our imagination. I mean, now we're in the future, so

2:10:10 Speaker 2: it's all orbs, and it's all non non Euclidean shapes

2:10:16 Speaker 2: and warping orbs and all this stuff we don't really

2:10:18 Speaker 2: hear about physical craft. Even the tic TACs of the

2:10:22 Speaker 2: tic tac craft is a smooth, oblong shape. It's no

2:10:25 Speaker 2: longer like mechanical sources or anything like that. So I

2:10:29 Speaker 2: feel like, what's the next step. That's the question I've

2:10:33 Speaker 2: got is what's after orbs? But what's after orbs?

2:10:40 Speaker 1: After orbs?

2:10:41 Speaker 2: I think if we keep following this concept, this this

2:10:46 Speaker 2: like process of it kind of evolving as we evolve

2:10:50 Speaker 2: our scientific scientific knowledge of the universe, what's what's after?

2:10:56 Speaker 2: That's that's my question, and I'm gonna end on religion.

2:11:02 Speaker 1: Religion is just a cult plus one hundred years.

2:11:04 Speaker 2: Yeah.

2:11:05 Speaker 1: Joe Rogan has actually like a a really good bit

2:11:09 Speaker 1: about this, and he says, to some degree, he says,

2:11:14 Speaker 1: what is the difference between a religion and a cult?

2:11:17 Speaker 1: And he said, well, the only difference is there's that

2:11:24 Speaker 1: the one guy that made it up and knows it's

2:11:27 Speaker 1: bullshit is dead. That's the only difference, right, the guy

2:11:33 Speaker 1: that that started it was.

2:11:36 Speaker 2: I mean, scientology is an example. Hubbet dies and becomes

2:11:41 Speaker 2: religion between within like three years, Miss Gavage manages to like,

2:11:46 Speaker 2: the war is over, We've beaten the I R S.

2:11:51 Speaker 1: So it did take one guy that knows this bullshit

2:11:56 Speaker 1: and then he dies and it comes to religion.

2:12:00 Speaker 2: Right, isn't that what happened with Joseph.

2:12:02 Speaker 1: Smith scientology, with with the with like the Jonestown well

2:12:09 Speaker 1: they didn't get like but it was all headed like

2:12:11 Speaker 1: the cults. The cult side of it you can see

2:12:14 Speaker 1: was there right, like the Jim Jones side of it.

2:12:18 Speaker 1: But also in scientology they have the rigidness of.

2:12:24 Speaker 2: You know, well, Jim Jones charismatic psychopath.

2:12:28 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's just like it's just repackaged like scientology

2:12:38 Speaker 1: could have could could you know, like I put it

2:12:41 Speaker 1: in the same bracket as all that stuff. But it's

2:12:45 Speaker 1: just like more organized and you know, like the Christianity.

2:12:49 Speaker 2: But the thing, the thing with John Styne is once

2:12:51 Speaker 2: Jim Jones was dead, it didn't like expand it didn't go, oh,

2:12:57 Speaker 2: he's dead, let's create fifty more Jonestownes.

2:12:59 Speaker 1: Let's then there's like Heaven's Gate that was like literal

2:13:03 Speaker 1: UFO cult. Yeah it's Marshall and if if if AI

2:13:09 Speaker 1: keeps going the way it's going, then there's going to

2:13:13 Speaker 1: become like I could see a time where what's next

2:13:16 Speaker 1: is people form religion around the alien beings, this this

2:13:21 Speaker 1: idea of aliens instead of like God. I know, and

2:13:27 Speaker 1: that's what I mean.

2:13:27 Speaker 2: Like this that's the New Age is a new religious

2:13:31 Speaker 2: next that hasn't reached the level of being a bona

2:13:34 Speaker 2: fide religion. In some cases, it's reached a cult level

2:13:37 Speaker 2: status in certain insular groups, but as a whole, the

2:13:41 Speaker 2: New Age is very fractured and splintered, so it can't

2:13:44 Speaker 2: reach that kind of crescendo moment kind of thing. Thank you, Jeremiah.

2:13:48 Speaker 2: I hope you check out the film. I hope you

2:13:51 Speaker 2: enjoy it. So keep your minds open and doing the

2:13:55 Speaker 2: Lord's work. They just misspelled that that lords the Lords.

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2:14:07 Speaker 2: Praise the cash is just I want to see you

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2:14:37 Speaker 2: Uh, it would be just trashing your whole business models

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2:14:54 Speaker 2: My level is river Moon coffee.

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2:15:01 Speaker 6: Get a.

2:15:04 Speaker 2: Bradley Whitford just sent me a message. What the fuck? No,

2:15:08 Speaker 2: we did, literally did. Bradley Whitford. Thanks for the love

2:15:12 Speaker 2: and support. What is my life right now? I'm a

2:15:14 Speaker 2: massive west Wing fan. If this is real, I'm gonna die.

2:15:17 Speaker 2: Just look, I'm checking this on there. Let's look, I

2:15:21 Speaker 2: want to know Bradley Whitford, the actor. You've never heard

2:15:26 Speaker 2: Bradley Whitford. Am I losing my mind?

2:15:29 Speaker 1: Yeah?

2:15:31 Speaker 2: I just got to check this because if that's real,

2:15:33 Speaker 2: I want to I want to be like, hey, oh

2:15:34 Speaker 2: my god, it's real. I can't even get to his

2:15:36 Speaker 2: profile from his chat. What the fuck?

2:15:39 Speaker 1: Well? I would like to wrap up and eat all right,

2:15:42 Speaker 1: So alright, I had a great Sorry time, I had

2:15:45 Speaker 1: a great time.

2:15:46 Speaker 2: Me too. Sorry for that random distraction at the end.

2:15:50 Speaker 2: But when when you get.

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