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Speaker 1: Step.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to total disclosure. Everyone. Tonight, we have a
Speaker 2: guest who's been making some serious ways, not just in
Speaker 2: the Christian world, but across the entire UFO and disclosure community.
Speaker 2: Joining us today is Bishop Alan Dido of Revival Nation Church.
Speaker 2: The Bishop had a radical encounter with God at just
Speaker 2: seventeen years old and instantly transformed him from a dogmatic
Speaker 2: atheist into a passionate follower of Jesus Christ. After Bible College,
Speaker 2: he spent over a decades serving in full time ministry,
Speaker 2: including overseeing and International Prayer Center, traveling the world preaching
Speaker 2: the Gospel, and in two thousand and four he founded
Speaker 2: in counter ministries with a clear mandate who awaken believers
Speaker 2: and equip the church. He has carried that message of
Speaker 2: Jesus to nations including Pakistan, China, Israel, Haiti, and Guatemala
Speaker 2: Guatemala while reaching villiads war through his teachings and media platforms.
Speaker 2: But what brings him into the headlines recently, especially here
Speaker 2: in the UFO and Disclosure space, is something a little
Speaker 2: bit different. He is one of the people who publicly
Speaker 2: confirmed being part of this private meeting other church leaders
Speaker 2: and these individuals eating deepenings to intelligence and government circles
Speaker 2: reportedly warned that disclosure of non human intelligence is on
Speaker 2: its way in one form or another, and that the
Speaker 2: people in the church needed to prepare the people because
Speaker 2: it could challenge their onto logic, biblical understandings of reality.
Speaker 2: So tonight join us as we listen to the first
Speaker 2: hand account of what really you was shared in that meeting,
Speaker 2: the spiritual implications discussed, and how Alan believes the church
Speaker 2: should respond to the topic of on human intelligence. And
Speaker 2: this is total disclosure. Apparently, I I needed to practice
Speaker 2: my my saying in Guatemala. But Bishop, it's it's it's
Speaker 2: really great to have you on the show. You know
Speaker 2: what I didn't ask you previously was how do you
Speaker 2: pronounce your last name?
Speaker 1: Ah?
Speaker 3: Yes, the everlasting eternal question. It's did Oh. But I've
Speaker 3: heard of everything under the sun, So if there's any
Speaker 3: type of stutter I did, then I know you're talking
Speaker 3: to me and I accept that I receive it.
Speaker 4: So a valiant effort.
Speaker 2: I heard that or that, I was like, oh shit,
Speaker 2: I Forart to ask him how how phonetically we said this?
Speaker 2: So I was like, I'm going to take a show.
Speaker 3: That means of it means of God. So when you
Speaker 3: get it wrong, it's kind of like blasphemy, but not
Speaker 3: not really. It's between you and your God. Just just
Speaker 3: say a little no, just kidding, But DIO doesn't mean
Speaker 3: of God.
Speaker 4: That deal.
Speaker 2: Well, that's really interesting because so you went starting kind
Speaker 2: of at the beginning here, Uh, you were an atheist
Speaker 2: at one point, you know, in your childhood. How did
Speaker 2: it go? I want to hear that encounter of how
Speaker 2: it went from you know, being really like a dogmatic
Speaker 2: atheist to someone who's reaching the Gospel and made his
Speaker 2: life mission to do.
Speaker 3: So that's a yeah, that's a wild story. By the
Speaker 3: time I was seventeen years of age, i'd been in
Speaker 3: jail twice and I had convinced myself that I was
Speaker 3: an atheist, although today I say there's no such thing
Speaker 3: as atheist and I don't have enough faith to be
Speaker 3: an atheist. But the there's a lot of people who
Speaker 3: purport to be atheists, and being raised in the buckle
Speaker 3: of the Bible belt one of the reasons I claimed
Speaker 3: to be an atheist and I had no desire or
Speaker 3: passion for religion, especially Christianity especially and the reason for
Speaker 3: that is because of the Christian atheist that I knew.
Speaker 3: A Christian atheist is someone who claims to believe in God,
Speaker 3: but they live like he doesn't exist. And that testimony
Speaker 3: of that hypocrisy was enough to convince me that if
Speaker 3: God was real, it certainly could not have been the
Speaker 3: Christian God. But at seventeen years of age, you know,
Speaker 3: I used to give speeches in class attempting to disprove
Speaker 3: the existence of God. I thought I was pretty smart.
Speaker 3: Turns out I'm still not that smart, but certainly wasn't smart.
Speaker 3: At seventeen, I had a radical encounter with Satan as
Speaker 3: well as with Jesus. And that's one of the reasons
Speaker 3: why I say, concerning the UFO discussion, you know, we
Speaker 3: may be late to the conversation concerning UFOs, but we're
Speaker 3: not late to the conversation concerning non human intelligence and
Speaker 3: concerning the Supernatra. And I had a radical encounter that
Speaker 3: transformed my life and just had a complete shift and
Speaker 3: gave my life to Jesus.
Speaker 4: You still there that I lose you. Yeah.
Speaker 3: At seventeen, in being invited to a church that I
Speaker 3: didn't want to go to, I went to a youth
Speaker 3: gathering and in that youth gathering, I had an experience
Speaker 3: where that voice inside my head that I had been
Speaker 3: listening to my entire life, that voice that was telling me,
Speaker 3: you don't believe in any of this, you need to
Speaker 3: stay away from this, get out of here, you don't
Speaker 3: want anything to do with Christianity. That all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: I won't go into the full story, but it became audible,
Speaker 3: and I heard that voice, and I immediately recognized it
Speaker 3: as the voice of Satan, or the voice of some
Speaker 3: sort of demonic entity, and I knew immediately what it was.
Speaker 3: It's like the Wizard of Oz when God, when the
Speaker 3: Toto pulled the curtain back. God pulled the curtain back
Speaker 3: for me and showed me who was really doing the talking,
Speaker 3: and that there's a lot of people across the planet,
Speaker 3: around the world who think that they're making these decisions,
Speaker 3: they're thinking these dolls, not realizing that thoughts can be
Speaker 3: injected or suggested to the human mind from nefarious entities.
Speaker 3: And of course, realizing that it was demonic, I knew, well,
Speaker 3: if Satan's real, then Jesus is real. And I said, Satan,
Speaker 3: you can't have me anymore. Jesus I'm all yours, and
Speaker 3: that's how I gave my life to Jesus.
Speaker 2: You know, it's very interesting. I was I would consider
Speaker 2: myself deafly not atheists, by the way, I think. I
Speaker 2: think you're probably right in saying that that I don't
Speaker 2: think anyone on the planet even really wants to be atheist,
Speaker 2: because I mean, it's so it's so definitive, right, yes,
Speaker 2: And the world that is not black and white. Far
Speaker 2: from it. To think that it would be so simple
Speaker 2: as life, death, black before, black after, and that's it.
Speaker 2: It just one thing the universe isn't. And this is
Speaker 2: something I've always felt in my heart. The universe is
Speaker 2: not wasteful. I mean, it's it's simply not. And you know,
Speaker 2: whether you choose to call the forces of the universe
Speaker 2: God or you know, whatever gets you through the higher
Speaker 2: power of your choosing. You know, I've this sober for
Speaker 2: six years from drinking, and that's a big part of
Speaker 2: it because we congratulations, Yeah, thank you. I really appreciate that.
Speaker 2: You know, six years also the time of the amount
Speaker 2: of time I've been doing this show. So this show
Speaker 2: saved my life.
Speaker 3: Wow, you know, and what a six year, what a
Speaker 3: wild six years to quit drinking. By the way, if
Speaker 3: you're going to start drinking, it would have been the
Speaker 3: next the last six years. But yeah, it's amazing and
Speaker 3: you found your purpose.
Speaker 2: I found my purpose, and you know, it's really all.
Speaker 2: And my audience is gonna be like, dude, if you
Speaker 2: tell this one more time, we're gonna lose my mind.
Speaker 2: But my mom, she took us to church. And the
Speaker 2: reason I say that bring up my views, I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna say what I am. I don't. I just don't
Speaker 2: like to bring that into it. But my mom brought
Speaker 2: us to church, and one thing she would never do
Speaker 2: is put a She never forced us to do anything
Speaker 2: that we didn't really want to do. So she brought
Speaker 2: us to church a couple weekends in a row, and
Speaker 2: then she asked me, my sister, do you guys want
Speaker 2: to go back? And we both said no, and we
Speaker 2: never went back. We never went back with her. I
Speaker 2: think we both found our way back separate to that,
Speaker 2: but she allows us to go explore and to find
Speaker 2: our way to make the mistakes to not you know,
Speaker 2: because a lot of parents they'll force their views and
Speaker 2: their kids. But I think that's what with the UFO topic, too,
Speaker 2: keeps the stigma alive. It's really it sucks, it really does.
Speaker 2: So I mean I was I think I was a
Speaker 2: special case where I didn't have something forced upon me.
Speaker 2: I wasn't told I had to do this, I had
Speaker 2: to do that. It was go find your own way,
Speaker 2: go answer the questions you want answered. And I'm here
Speaker 2: with today.
Speaker 4: So yeah, a similar story.
Speaker 3: You know, we didn't really go to church growing up
Speaker 3: unless there were Christmas points set as or Easter lily
Speaker 3: is decorating the hallway, you know, And so I didn't
Speaker 3: really have any Bible knowledge or any and I think
Speaker 3: that aided me because even as a claiming to be
Speaker 3: an atheist, I had lots of questions that I wanted answered.
Speaker 3: And just because I gave my life to Jesus didn't
Speaker 3: mean I didn't have questions anymore. I still have that
Speaker 3: analytical side that one of these questions answered. And I
Speaker 3: feel like that any search for truth or any religion
Speaker 3: that is true cannot shy away from hard questions. If
Speaker 3: we're just going to say you just need to believe,
Speaker 3: you should just have faith, you know, even when you
Speaker 3: don't understand something and don't ask those questions, we'll find
Speaker 3: out when we're in heaven. Well, you know, maybe there
Speaker 3: are some things that we'll find out when we're in heaven.
Speaker 3: But we serve a God who answers prayer. We serve
Speaker 3: a god. If he is the God of truth, then
Speaker 3: he doesn't mind us pursuing truth. And so I've always
Speaker 3: been analytical in that way. Even in regard to this
Speaker 3: subject matter, alien's UFOs UAPs. I've always been aware of it,
Speaker 3: fascinated by it, interested in it. About three years ago
Speaker 3: I started doing deep research into it from the from
Speaker 3: the role of a skeptic. You know, I'm a big
Speaker 3: fan of The X Files, and the show would not
Speaker 3: be good if there wasn't a Scully.
Speaker 4: Molder, the true believer.
Speaker 3: That's great, but you've got to have the Scully in there,
Speaker 3: who's asking hard questions, who's pushing back. And I've always
Speaker 3: been kind of that way, even in this meeting that
Speaker 3: we're going to talk about today. So I think that's
Speaker 3: that's really valuable.
Speaker 2: So let's I guess let's start with that with the
Speaker 2: elephant in the room. You were one of the people
Speaker 2: that were brought into this private briefing meeting with other
Speaker 2: church members and leaders. Can you walk through exactly what happened,
Speaker 2: who was there, what was presented, and what were you
Speaker 2: told about some sort of incoming disclosure on a non
Speaker 2: human intelligence.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was quoted in the New York Times. How wild
Speaker 3: is this? I was quoted in the New York Times
Speaker 3: as saying, that's the strangest meeting I've ever been a
Speaker 3: part of in my life.
Speaker 4: And it really was.
Speaker 3: And there are people who get upset and say, you're sensationalizing.
Speaker 3: To me, there's no way to sensationalize this because it's
Speaker 3: sensational all by itself. You don't have to do anything
Speaker 3: to it for it to be sensational. But to start with,
Speaker 3: there were two meetings that, at least at the time
Speaker 3: when this went viral, I was aware of, put on
Speaker 3: by the same individuals, and the first I was invited
Speaker 3: to both. The first one it sounded kind of weird,
Speaker 3: my schedules full, so I decided against it. The second
Speaker 3: one we were in Nationale, Tennessee at the National Religious
Speaker 3: Broadcasters Convention, which is amazing. Thousands of Christian leaders and
Speaker 3: content creators gathered together from all over the world, and
Speaker 3: so you have people in a room that you would
Speaker 3: never have in a room together at the same time. Anyway,
Speaker 3: lots of friends and acquaintances that we would never get
Speaker 3: to see one another. We're able to reconnect, fellowship, catch up.
Speaker 3: And a mutual friend whose name is Tony Merkle. He
Speaker 3: runs the Confessionals podcast, which is phenomenal if you're interested
Speaker 3: in UFO UAP stuff. And this is that's his that's
Speaker 3: his stream, and he loves Jesus and but he loves
Speaker 3: getting into those weird subject matter from cryptids to alien
Speaker 3: abductions to anything like that. He's just and he does
Speaker 3: it beautifully, very knowledgeable, and he knew these two gentlemen. Now,
Speaker 3: these two gentlemen who put on this meeting, we're calling
Speaker 3: them a group of private Christian investigators and operators who
Speaker 3: have had extensive experience within the government. They are not
Speaker 3: actively government representatives or government officials, but they are actively
Speaker 3: investigating the government and they have sources within it. And
Speaker 3: it's very difficult to describe what they do. But they
Speaker 3: wished for their identities to remain anonymous, So coming out
Speaker 3: of the meeting, the only reason it's been called a
Speaker 3: secret meeting is because of their identities remaining anonymous, and
Speaker 3: hopefully in the future, one or both of them will
Speaker 3: be able to come out and tell their story and
Speaker 3: identify themselves in their extensive experience. And one of them
Speaker 3: really is an American hero. When I met him at NRB,
Speaker 3: we discovered that we actually knew one another. We had
Speaker 3: communicated in the past, and I knew him This is
Speaker 3: a real warrior, This is a real American hero, and
Speaker 3: I knew him to be sincere. I know that he
Speaker 3: loves Jesus, and I know he believes what he's been
Speaker 3: investigating is a worthwhile endeavor. So that's the reason why
Speaker 3: I agreed to go to this second meeting. And even
Speaker 3: on the way there, a friend of mine, we communicate
Speaker 3: with one another, saying, are you sure you want to
Speaker 3: go to this meeting? Because this is kind of weird
Speaker 3: with this alien disclosure. You kind of turn your phones
Speaker 3: on airplane mode. So we go into this off the
Speaker 3: beaten path neighborhood. The street lights appear to be out.
Speaker 3: It's just this long dark street. You approach this rented
Speaker 3: small airbnb with a host of rented SUVs because you
Speaker 3: got a lot of visiting pasths and ministers just jammed
Speaker 3: in the parking lot and as you approach it. You
Speaker 3: have to turn your phone on airplane mode. And there's
Speaker 3: now a three hour slideshow presentation of what these gentlemen
Speaker 3: have uncovered in their investigation. And they weren't there. Again,
Speaker 3: they're not government. If this was the government telling us
Speaker 3: this is what you need to say, I wouldn't trust
Speaker 3: the government any further that I.
Speaker 4: Can throw it.
Speaker 3: They were saying, here's what's coming, and you need to
Speaker 3: just simply go back and teach the Bible to your people,
Speaker 3: make sure your people have a strong biblical foundation. But
Speaker 3: they were concerned that and this was the big news.
Speaker 3: This was what really convinced us. As the days went on,
Speaker 3: this was legitimate. They said, disclosures coming immediately. It will
Speaker 3: begin as a drip, drip drip, the government discussing talking
Speaker 3: about officials saying aliens non human UAPs UFOs are real,
Speaker 3: and then it will ultimately culminate, possibly by July in
Speaker 3: an official disclosure, if not before then. And brother within
Speaker 3: it was within I think days before this meeting, Barack
Speaker 3: Obama came out and said, oh, they're real, they're just
Speaker 3: not in area fifty one unless they're hiding it from
Speaker 3: the president as if you know that's an impossibility. And
Speaker 3: then within hours of our meeting, within the same day,
Speaker 3: Trump comes out and addresses that, saying Obama released classified
Speaker 3: information and then there was verification from that point on
Speaker 3: leading up to the historic disclosure that took place beginning
Speaker 3: May eighth, and it's a process that began on May eighth.
Speaker 4: So that's kind of the gist of the meeting.
Speaker 2: Well, okay, and so when he that person's people they're
Speaker 2: giving in this brief and they say that you need
Speaker 2: to start teaching the Bible, you know the way it was.
Speaker 2: What's the wording there that they chose to use, because
Speaker 2: what aren't you doing now or what isn't the church
Speaker 2: do now that they should be doing to prepare people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're treating this as let's say, for an example,
Speaker 3: a major cult was coming into a pastor city and
Speaker 3: it was very convincing, and thousands of people were going
Speaker 3: to potentially buy into these lives if they weren't prepared
Speaker 3: with answers. And that was simply their goal. That there
Speaker 3: are many in the church who may not have a
Speaker 3: grid for this, they don't even know how to process
Speaker 3: this information that may maybe they're easily manipulated. There are
Speaker 3: people within the church that will not be moved by this.
Speaker 3: I mean solid Christians, people who followed programs like ours,
Speaker 3: who talk about these kinds of things regularly and dive
Speaker 3: into the supernatural.
Speaker 4: They're not going to be moved by anything.
Speaker 3: I mean solid believers across all denominations, who read their Bibles,
Speaker 3: who pray, who are active within their church community. They
Speaker 3: know what the Bible says. None of these things that
Speaker 3: could come out are going to be shocking. But they're
Speaker 3: concerned about people who were in the pews but on
Speaker 3: the fence as well as you know, people were trying
Speaker 3: to evangelize. We want to reach for the gospel, and
Speaker 3: they may be convinced by a lot of the narrative
Speaker 3: that comes out. So if we can just get to
Speaker 3: them first, it's like raising kids, you know, if you
Speaker 3: can talk to them about a subject first, before you know,
Speaker 3: the worldly teacher gets to them, or before they get
Speaker 3: it from TV or from music, you can help frame
Speaker 3: the narratives so they're able to process it. I was
Speaker 3: on timcast and Ian mentioned this Ian's my favorite, and
Speaker 3: he mentioned that if he sees something that's going to
Speaker 3: come out on the news that would upset his mom.
Speaker 3: He will call her ahead of time and like frame
Speaker 3: it for her so that she won't be upset by
Speaker 3: it or kind of deceived by whatever's in the news.
Speaker 3: And that's really what their agenda was, because these two
Speaker 3: gentlemen love Jesus, they love the Church, and they're like,
Speaker 3: I don't think the church. There's not a lot of
Speaker 3: churches talking about the supernatural, not a lot of churches
Speaker 3: talking about end time deception, and there's not a lot
Speaker 3: of Christians who think this is worthy of conversation. This
Speaker 3: whole alien ufo uf thing. That's fringe stuff. I mean,
Speaker 3: that's sci fi stuff.
Speaker 4: That's the joke.
Speaker 3: There's no reason we need to talk about that. And
Speaker 3: as a result, many Christians will be unprepared for whatever
Speaker 3: will drop.
Speaker 2: Right, right, And that's actually you know, one of the
Speaker 2: things that people talk about in the disclosure community is
Speaker 2: this ontological shock, right, And having seen a craft when
Speaker 2: I was younger, there is a period of time where,
Speaker 2: you know, because I do consider there was a life
Speaker 2: I had before I saw what I saw, and a
Speaker 2: life I had after I saw what I saw both times,
Speaker 2: because the first time was the craft. The second time
Speaker 2: was with my mother when she passed. The moment she
Speaker 2: passed away, I saw this or be in the room
Speaker 2: with me, and it just kind of left the room.
Speaker 2: And then when I looked back at my mother, she
Speaker 2: was gone. And her death date is four three to one, So,
Speaker 2: you know, sh I wasn't happy at the time, like
Speaker 2: I still needed to find my bearings. I was freshly sober,
Speaker 2: and it was almost like her way of like pushing
Speaker 2: me back on track and re sparking my I for answer.
Speaker 2: So unfortunately, the day she took her last breath, you know,
Speaker 2: uh was it is a moment that I often have
Speaker 2: to think about because something I don't know if it
Speaker 2: was real, but I know what I what I saw
Speaker 2: and what it made me think and made me feel. So,
Speaker 2: you know, getting people ready for that, I think is
Speaker 2: a is a noble thing. It sounds like the people
Speaker 2: who delivered this breathing or this meeting, I should say
Speaker 2: they were doing it because no one else would.
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, yeah.
Speaker 2: And are they saying that that the that the US government,
Speaker 2: I was a little bit unclear on this part. Are
Speaker 2: they saying that the disclosure that's coming is going to
Speaker 2: be framed in a way that is like is it's
Speaker 2: not real. That isn't the whole truth.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: They what they did was is they set up several
Speaker 3: potential narratives. So they went through because I think even
Speaker 3: in my research in this, I think the the government, corporations,
Speaker 3: whatever the powers that be that are in control, follow
Speaker 3: the money, right, follow the follow follow the greed and
Speaker 3: the lust for power. Whoever is controlling the narrative, they're
Speaker 3: going to attempt to put forth. Just throw things against
Speaker 3: the wall and see see what will what will the
Speaker 3: American people digest? Even if what we're dealing with, and
Speaker 3: a lot of this disclosure is real, how do we
Speaker 3: frame it? And how much of it that's real do
Speaker 3: we share? How much of a lie do we share?
Speaker 3: And they're gonna they're going to try to use this,
Speaker 3: of course, to advance their own agendas. So they actually
Speaker 3: much of the time in the meeting they shared with
Speaker 3: us different front faithcing ufoologists, if you will, or spokes
Speaker 3: people that you often see on the news, and they're saying, Okay,
Speaker 3: here's this person's background, here's what they believe. And you know,
Speaker 3: one of the interesting things in this meeting was that
Speaker 3: they said the United States government operates in such silos
Speaker 3: that the left hand doesn't know what the right hand
Speaker 3: is doing. And as a result of that, you have
Speaker 3: certain segments who truly believe one thing, while others who
Speaker 3: truly believe something entirely different, and they have no idea
Speaker 3: what the other is doing. And so who knows what
Speaker 3: cream will rise to the top, what narrative will be
Speaker 3: the one that sticks, Which is why we need to
Speaker 3: be prepared for it by simply grounding people in Bible truth.
Speaker 3: And what that means is Christians need to know that
Speaker 3: non human entities exist in the Bible, that the supernatural
Speaker 3: is there, and the Bible says that even Satan can
Speaker 3: show up as an angel of light. So appearance can't
Speaker 3: be what moves us. Appearance should not affect us. What
Speaker 3: should affect us is the substance of what message these
Speaker 3: things bring. Troy Brewer who often says, you know, we
Speaker 3: talk about a lot of crazy things I do and
Speaker 3: many of my ministerial friends do, and we do a
Speaker 3: program together called the Counter and it's basically like a
Speaker 3: bunch of pastors sitting around the ministers talking about X
Speaker 3: files type stuff, and the whole purpose of it is
Speaker 3: to raise support to rescue kids out of human trafficking.
Speaker 3: So we have a lot of fun with this conversation
Speaker 3: for very serious calls. And in fact, these operators who
Speaker 3: are doing this work, who held these two meetings, there's
Speaker 3: an aspect to their investigation that involves human trafficking, which
Speaker 3: is why they wish to remain anonymous until they've completed
Speaker 3: their investigation. And even to add to this, by the way,
Speaker 3: I know there's been a lot of confusion. Perry Stone
Speaker 3: came out with his video and people are saying, well,
Speaker 3: so and so said this, and so and so says that.
Speaker 3: So Perry Stone's operating off of secondhand information and he's
Speaker 3: as far as I'm concerned, he's correct in what he communicated.
Speaker 4: There were two meetings.
Speaker 3: One had representative Burlison calling into one of those meetings,
Speaker 3: that was the first meeting, and the second meeting did
Speaker 3: not have a representative calling into. But even with that,
Speaker 3: we're discovering that there have been other meetings going on
Speaker 3: put on by other operators or individuals, and we don't
Speaker 3: know who they are or exactly what they're shaying. So
Speaker 3: we're actually looking into that now trying to figure that out.
Speaker 3: So something is happening where there's a ground swell, it
Speaker 3: seems of Christians who see this coming down the pike
Speaker 3: and are saying, Okay, we've got to prepare the church
Speaker 3: for this conversation.
Speaker 2: Right. And Eric is a good friend of mine, the representative, Yeah,
Speaker 2: he sought me out and we've been good friends practically
Speaker 2: ever since. Bircht and a few, yeah, a few others,
Speaker 2: but they're a little bit more polarizing. So that's we
Speaker 2: keep it on the you know, because I tried to
Speaker 2: let that the part lines affect yes, right, because well
Speaker 2: we don't get into that.
Speaker 4: We don't have time, all of us. Right, this should be,
Speaker 4: it really does.
Speaker 2: It's the only top I've seen in the past five
Speaker 2: to ten years, maybe even longer that is completely utterly
Speaker 2: nonpartisan and continues to be throughouts throughout its journey and
Speaker 2: as throws. I think people be this is one of
Speaker 2: those topics, I mean, what we're dealing with, and I
Speaker 2: think a lot of people forget this, Like you know,
Speaker 2: when when we're kids, we have a couple of questions,
Speaker 2: what happens when we die? Are we alone? This is
Speaker 2: one of the few fundamental questions that affects every single
Speaker 2: person equally, whether you're it doesn't matter your race, religious sex, creed,
Speaker 2: any of it. It's you when you look in the mirror,
Speaker 2: your place in the cosmos, in the universe, in this
Speaker 2: vast place we call reality, It's going to be what
Speaker 2: it what it means to you, and how it changes
Speaker 2: you to know that you know, non human intelligence exists,
Speaker 2: and it has probably been visiting this planet. And there's
Speaker 2: a good chance that our ancestors may maybe misidentified some
Speaker 2: things as gods when they were actually extraterrestrial. And I
Speaker 2: want to talk about this. In your book Summing the Demon,
Speaker 2: you explore connections between AI aliens and the Antichrist. Do
Speaker 2: you believe non human intelligence could be connected to biblical
Speaker 2: concepts like fallen angels, nephilim, democ deception, rather than say,
Speaker 2: physical extraterrestrials from other planets.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Even the investigators who put on the meeting, that was
Speaker 3: their main point that they believe that a lot of
Speaker 3: what we're seeing is falling angel technology. Of course, if
Speaker 3: you take out ninety percent of what we're seeing is
Speaker 3: military technology, right, ninety percent of that is what we're
Speaker 3: seeing is military tech. And you also have misidentified natural phenomenon,
Speaker 3: You have social contagion. You have to factor all of
Speaker 3: that in, But there is that sliver of these things
Speaker 3: that are supernatural, if you will. Now, I think one
Speaker 3: of the biggest mistakes the Western culture of the Western
Speaker 3: Church has made in this culture is separating the spirit
Speaker 3: from the natural. And we we ask when we see
Speaker 3: these things, well, is that spiritual or is it natural?
Speaker 3: And often what we're asking is is it real or
Speaker 3: is it imaginary? Is really what we're asking is it?
Speaker 3: Is it tangible or is it you know, wispy or
Speaker 3: ethereal in some way, And we have forgotten that spiritual
Speaker 3: things are tangible and can be tangible. Even when Jesus
Speaker 3: appeared to the disciples after his resurrection, they thought he
Speaker 3: was merely a spirit, and he proved to them that
Speaker 3: he was not a spirit by eating with them. So
Speaker 3: that's that was that was That's jesus theology on how
Speaker 3: you prove some things not merely a spirit. But if
Speaker 3: you take that, then back to Abraham and he sits
Speaker 3: down with angels, and what do they do? They eat
Speaker 3: with him, so angels can show up in a natural form.
Speaker 3: And then you mentioned I think you referenced the Genesis
Speaker 3: chapter six where you have angels in rebellion to God
Speaker 3: come down and mate with the daughters of men, creating
Speaker 3: a race of giants. So not only are they natural
Speaker 3: enough to have some sort of relations with human women,
Speaker 3: but they give birth to something that is entirely different.
Speaker 3: Could part of what we're seeing be this nephilum, this
Speaker 3: hybrid spiritual natural entity that is just as real and
Speaker 3: tangible as you and me in the earth. Could there
Speaker 3: be advanced nephelum civilizations that have advanced technology. All of
Speaker 3: that is within the biblical purview. So when we say,
Speaker 3: as Christians, and a lot of Christians will say, it's demons,
Speaker 3: it's demons, It's just demons. Even the Vice President came
Speaker 3: out and said aliens. I know, I think they're demons.
Speaker 3: And what they're saying is an oversimplification. What they mean
Speaker 3: is demonic. That's what they mean. And by demonic you
Speaker 3: get all these things from fallen angels demons. Even if
Speaker 3: you want to say demons are disembodied spirits of the
Speaker 3: nephilom or nephilum, actual hybrid beings. They could be a
Speaker 3: hybrid of technology mingled demonic technology mingled with human biology,
Speaker 3: cursed human beings. This is another one nobody ever talks
Speaker 3: about nebucan Has are cursed God, and he was literally
Speaker 3: turned into a beast for seven years. And so there's
Speaker 3: a lot of things within the biblical purview of what
Speaker 3: these things could be. So when we say demons, what
Speaker 3: most Christians meaning is just simply demonic, but certainly they're
Speaker 3: not benevolent. And that's kind of the warning we want
Speaker 3: to bring to this conversation because you have people like
Speaker 3: Stephen Greer, who I think truly believes what he's saying.
Speaker 3: He truly believes what he's saying is done extensive research,
Speaker 3: and there's some great research in what he's done. He
Speaker 3: thinks these are benevolent beings that we need to communicate with,
Speaker 3: and that fundamental Christianity who thinks these things are demonic
Speaker 3: are a threat to galactic peace.
Speaker 4: That's m hm.
Speaker 3: So could that be part of the in time deception?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: And the one thing I've always actually I've been told
Speaker 2: this by other UFO researchers and media people, is anyone
Speaker 2: who's telling you it's all all and they have a
Speaker 2: PayPal link, turn around, walk away, get get as far
Speaker 2: away as you can. No one knows the whole truth.
Speaker 2: I mean, no one understands exactly every detail. And so
Speaker 2: when you use definitive statements like they're all benevolent, right,
Speaker 2: if they're all advanced past this idea of you know,
Speaker 2: acting in whatever in different self interest, whatever it be.
Speaker 2: If if that's what you're saying, you know, Steven Greer,
Speaker 2: I hate to break a tea. I just I don't.
Speaker 2: That is a very naive way to look at But
Speaker 2: also we can't say they're all demons either, right, Like
Speaker 2: you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I think I think the Christian community is not unique
Speaker 3: in this area. It's social media, it's people in general.
Speaker 3: We are allergic to nuance and so we try to
Speaker 3: simplify things is as easily as we can as make
Speaker 3: it as digestible as possible. And the problem with saying
Speaker 3: it's just demons is people process that as a spiritual entity,
Speaker 3: that it's purely spiritual, and so what is going to
Speaker 3: happen then when they're confronted with real tangible entity, how
Speaker 3: are they going to explain that that going to affect theology?
Speaker 3: So that's why, yeah, you're right about that, what we
Speaker 3: do want to be cautious about. So when we When
Speaker 3: I talk about people attempting to make it too complicated,
Speaker 3: I'm not referring to how complicated it can be scripturally
Speaker 3: on what these things are. I'm referring to people who say, well,
Speaker 3: these things are actually benevolent and they're here to help us.
Speaker 3: And I think that's when we need to we need
Speaker 3: to watch out because in my research, these encounters with
Speaker 3: these entities always turn always turned bad, always turned really yeah, eventually.
Speaker 2: Tell me more. I mean, what do you what do
Speaker 2: you mean? What are you referencing here? People are coming
Speaker 2: to because I mean, you are who you are, right,
Speaker 2: So if I was someone who watched followed you, and
Speaker 2: I had a story, I would come to you, right,
Speaker 2: I would relay my story to you because you're someone
Speaker 2: I trust. You know, you're someone I listened to preach
Speaker 2: the gospel. If I am like religio, If I am religious,
Speaker 2: is that what we're talking about or are you talking
Speaker 2: about any personal experience?
Speaker 3: Well it started when I when I first began in ministry,
Speaker 3: I wasn't a preacher. I was a prayer So I
Speaker 3: ran a prayer center and I just prayed for people
Speaker 3: eight hours a day.
Speaker 4: What a job.
Speaker 3: By the way, what an honor too, to be able
Speaker 3: to stand in faith with people and partner with them
Speaker 3: in some of the most sensitive areas of their lives.
Speaker 3: And to start with, I began and I prayed for
Speaker 3: more than one hundred thousand people like that, one on one,
Speaker 3: not crowds, just one on one with people praying with them.
Speaker 3: And in that time I began to encounter people who
Speaker 3: had abduction stories and abduction experiences, and at first I thought,
Speaker 3: you know, these were just people who were unstable, until
Speaker 3: they began to pile up and align at the same time,
Speaker 3: across cultures, countries, creeds, denominations, races, it didn't matter. Their
Speaker 3: stories were just very, very similar, which which got me
Speaker 3: to be interested in the subject matter. And then twenty
Speaker 3: seventeen we had some disclosure took place. Twenty twenty. Of course,
Speaker 3: in the midst of that mess, they came out identifying
Speaker 3: these things as yes, these things are real, and nobody
Speaker 3: batter than I. So I really began to dig into
Speaker 3: this then. And of course when I released the book
Speaker 3: Something the Demon, it was like it gave people permission,
Speaker 3: as you said, to come talk to me. And it
Speaker 3: has been wild hearing these people's stories reputable people, sometimes
Speaker 3: people that everyone would know and recognize who there's a
Speaker 3: stigma attached to this, and so they don't want to
Speaker 3: come out in public and share these stories. But in
Speaker 3: each and every one they have many and varied experiences.
Speaker 3: But if they continued, it all turned really dark, really
Speaker 3: bleak side effects and the alignment. I even have a
Speaker 3: chapter in my book something that eme it about the
Speaker 3: comparison between alien abduction stories and stories of demonic possession,
Speaker 3: and it just it just overlaps almost seamlessly when you
Speaker 3: really begin to dig into those things. So, yeah, that's
Speaker 3: kind of been my journey in discovering this.
Speaker 2: These beings are real and they're visiting Earth by means
Speaker 2: unknown to us. How should Christians discern whether they represent
Speaker 2: genuine extraterrestrial reality? I actually you might have already answer
Speaker 2: this in a way. Interdimension interdimension entities are something more
Speaker 2: to say, like a trickster demon gin with a cultural
Speaker 2: name you want to give it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it that's kind of The Catholic Church was having
Speaker 3: a conversation similar to do we baptize them or do
Speaker 3: they baptize us? You know, And it's it's an interesting
Speaker 3: it's an interesting it's it's the funnest conversation to have
Speaker 3: around the dinner table. But ultimately, I think Troy Brewer
Speaker 3: says it best. He says, the question isn't exactly what
Speaker 3: they are, because that's going to be a fun conversation,
Speaker 3: and who knows if we'll ever agree. Even if we
Speaker 3: saw a video of them on the White House, even
Speaker 3: if we saw with our own two eyes, how do
Speaker 3: we know it's not AI? How do we know it's
Speaker 3: not some sort of robotics? How do we know that
Speaker 3: what we're seeing is actually real? So the question isn't
Speaker 3: really what are they? The question is whose camp are
Speaker 3: they in? So are they in the Jesus camp or
Speaker 3: are they in the are they in Satan's camp? What
Speaker 3: message are they bringing? What do they say about Jesus Christ?
Speaker 3: And it's interesting many of them come uniquely with a message.
Speaker 3: They've come all the way from many star systems and
Speaker 3: galaxies and just to tell us Jesus was close but
Speaker 3: no cigar. Well that's that's a red flag. That's a
Speaker 3: red flag to me. But I think that is dividing line.
Speaker 3: What do they say about Jesus? That'll be what determines
Speaker 3: their mission.
Speaker 2: That is something I don't think I've actually ever thought
Speaker 2: about before. And it's crazy that you say that, because
Speaker 2: if oh my, I'm having like an existential moment right
Speaker 2: now actually thinking about this, because my God, if they
Speaker 2: came down and they said that Jesus was the way,
Speaker 2: I think I'd have to I'd have to be like,
Speaker 2: you know what, Jesus is the way. Jesus, Jesus is
Speaker 2: the way. But if they came down talking about Satan,
Speaker 2: I'd be very concerned. Ah, that's an interesting thought experience.
Speaker 3: Well, again, earlier Satan comes down as an angel of light,
Speaker 3: so he can change it.
Speaker 2: He was an angel of light, of course.
Speaker 4: And he can.
Speaker 3: He is technically, yeah, he can, so we see we
Speaker 3: see his description is interesting in the Bible that at first,
Speaker 3: when he is this anointed cherub that is a guardian
Speaker 3: of the presence of God, and he seems to have
Speaker 3: some role here on the earth, that even within him
Speaker 3: he's got musical instruments in his inner parts, that when
Speaker 3: he moves, it appears that even music flows out of them.
Speaker 3: And yet then when we see him in the Garden
Speaker 3: of Eden, he appears as a serpent. And then when
Speaker 3: we see him mentioned in the Gospels, he can show
Speaker 3: up as an angel of light, so he is able
Speaker 3: to change his appearance. Where we say appearance matters, doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: What matters is what is the message that's being brought?
Speaker 3: And if it is, Jesus was close, you know, he
Speaker 3: was one of us that could be what they're saying,
Speaker 3: and he was in tune with a lot of our message.
Speaker 3: But really what the real truth is, Well, then I'm out,
Speaker 3: I'm out.
Speaker 2: Right. And then you know what, I wouldn't blame you
Speaker 2: a point out. I just know that's I mean, that's
Speaker 2: a real ponderous question or thought, thought process. I guess
Speaker 2: maybe that is the what the briefing even boils down to,
Speaker 2: is these underlying questions that we really haven't thought about
Speaker 2: because we're so caught up in Look shiny object, right,
Speaker 2: Look this new information. Look this exciting cutting edge. But
Speaker 2: is it really exciting and cutting edge or it's been
Speaker 2: talked about and warned about in almost every culture across
Speaker 2: the globe, because I mean, there seems, at least to me,
Speaker 2: throughout history, almost every ancient culture has a story of
Speaker 2: gods right coming from the sky, They interact humanity, they
Speaker 2: maybe create or even influence civilizations and then they leave
Speaker 2: and they'vew to return narrative.
Speaker 3: It's the Nephila narrative that we see in every single culture,
Speaker 3: where these beings come down from come down from wherever
Speaker 3: they're coming down from, and there's these hybrid individuals that
Speaker 3: have supernatural capabilities, supernatural power, and that all stems from
Speaker 3: Genesis chapter six. We see it a second incursion. Somehow
Speaker 3: it happens again, and we have David and Goliath. We
Speaker 3: have the children of Israel trying to go into the
Speaker 3: Promised Land, but there are giants in the land. So
Speaker 3: this is this is consistent throughout scripture, and you see it,
Speaker 3: of course in the in the hybrid gods of the
Speaker 3: of the Egyptians. You see it in the mind culture.
Speaker 3: You see see this hybridization take place. And it's interesting
Speaker 3: Jesus predicted, as it was in the days of Noah's
Speaker 3: so shall it be in the days of the coming
Speaker 3: of the Son of Man that at the second coming,
Speaker 3: the conditions will be similar to when Noah was alive.
Speaker 3: And of course when Noah was alive in Genesis six,
Speaker 3: you have that hybridization taking place, these beings coming down,
Speaker 3: people becoming infatuated with them the giving birth to a
Speaker 3: race of giants. So there's some kind of genetic manipulation
Speaker 3: that's going on and just mass corruption. And here's the
Speaker 3: telltale sign men's hearts were evil continually. It wasn't just
Speaker 3: that men's hearts were evil, because we're all born in
Speaker 3: and we're shaped in iniquity. But it was the proximity
Speaker 3: of the evil thoughts in their minds that there's not
Speaker 3: even a moment of relief from evil. You're always thinking evil,
Speaker 3: and we're getting closer and closer to that, by the way,
Speaker 3: with devices like this, where we're just we're just constantly
Speaker 3: being inundated. But as it was in the days of Noah,
Speaker 3: which by the way, interesting when you look at nineteen
Speaker 3: forty eight, which is a fascinating year, you have a
Speaker 3: coarsination of Israel being reconstituted for the first time in
Speaker 3: two thousand years. In a day the Bible says, shall
Speaker 3: a nation be born in Today the gavel comes down
Speaker 3: in the inter nations of the inner Chambers of the
Speaker 3: United Nations. Israel becomes a nation. At the same time
Speaker 3: the Dead Sea Scrolls are being uncovered. I've transferred back
Speaker 3: into the possession of the Jewish people, And at the
Speaker 3: exact same time, you have an earthquake in the mountains
Speaker 3: of Ararat that uncurvas what we believe to be the
Speaker 3: ark of the Covenant. So all as it was in
Speaker 3: the days of Noah, so shall it be in the
Speaker 3: days of the coming of the Southern Man. I think
Speaker 3: that's just the beginning of the signs, as if God
Speaker 3: stopped watch started to take the count.
Speaker 4: In that moment.
Speaker 2: Right, what do you what do you make of you know,
Speaker 2: this narrative. I'm sure you you heard Steven Spielberg, you know,
Speaker 2: his film Disclosure Day just came out and he was
Speaker 2: saying how it's going to challenge uh people's religions. I mean,
Speaker 2: what do you make of comments like that? And then
Speaker 2: how it really doesn't it didn't really follow through, Like
Speaker 2: I don't think that movie will challenge anybody's faith. But
Speaker 2: there is a much larger conversation there obviously. This that's
Speaker 2: what this briefing is about. So do I mean, I
Speaker 2: just want to hear it from you. What what do
Speaker 2: you think we are dealing with here? And do you
Speaker 2: think that the United States government is in possession of
Speaker 2: any of these these craft that they that they used
Speaker 2: to move around out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I believe they are. I believe they are. And
Speaker 3: Grush just came out over the weekend as a matter
Speaker 3: of fact, yes, stating more in regard to disclosure that
Speaker 3: he has seen. Normally, when we hear these stories, it's
Speaker 3: I know, someone who told me we're getting, you know,
Speaker 3: more than second hand information, David Grush says, I've seen
Speaker 3: these photos myself. I'm aware of the wreckage. I've seen
Speaker 3: it with my own two eyes. And this is the
Speaker 3: issue now. One of the things that came one of
Speaker 3: the reasons why this is so difficult to get people
Speaker 3: to come forward. And this is what was shocking in
Speaker 3: the meeting that I was in, that they shared with
Speaker 3: us that in order and you know this, in order
Speaker 3: to get around for your request, in order to get
Speaker 3: around oversight, the United States government will actually create and
Speaker 3: operate through corporations separate from the government, so they're extent
Speaker 3: from those things. But here's even the more nefarious part
Speaker 3: of that is that true American heroes will go to
Speaker 3: work thinking they're working for the United States government and
Speaker 3: they'll be involved in things, potentially illegal activities, thinking that
Speaker 3: this is what the government has asked them.
Speaker 4: To do.
Speaker 3: And when they push back and they decide I'm not
Speaker 3: going to do this anymore or I'm going to blow
Speaker 3: the whistle. They find out then that they actually weren't
Speaker 3: working for the government. They were working for a corporation.
Speaker 3: Therefore whistleblower laws or protections don't apply to them, and
Speaker 3: so now they can't say anything unless they implicate themselves
Speaker 3: in the process. So it's very murky, very murky. It's
Speaker 3: a stranglehold scrub, it is, for sure.
Speaker 2: It's a way of bottlenecking the truth and really, like
Speaker 2: you said earlier, compartmentalizing and putting it into a silo
Speaker 2: where it can't escape from. And you know, when we
Speaker 2: start classifying reality, like imagine the government came out and
Speaker 2: said that, you know, angels didn't exist, or demons didn't exist,
Speaker 2: or God didn't exist. Like that's not their place to do,
Speaker 2: you understand, You see what I'm saying, Yes, you can't.
Speaker 2: That'd be like saying you know, and maybe not exactly
Speaker 2: like it. That's like passifying as a zebra, right or
Speaker 2: an alligator.
Speaker 3: I like alixator because that reminds me of these entities
Speaker 3: because people think that benevolent.
Speaker 2: Alligator right, right, no, No, it's it's hungry or it's
Speaker 2: that it So what do you what do you make
Speaker 2: of like topics like the Book of Enoch? Why why
Speaker 2: was this left out of the proper Bible when it
Speaker 2: could it could potentially open up that conversation and have
Speaker 2: it had opened up when it could have, it could
Speaker 2: have informed it could have informed us for many, many
Speaker 2: years at this point in getting us ready.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the.
Speaker 3: Book of enic is a fascinating to read. I encourage
Speaker 3: every Christian to read the Book of Enoch. But there's
Speaker 3: such a mixture. Enoch is a sit of pigarful book,
Speaker 3: meaning it's a book claiming to be written by Enuch,
Speaker 3: but it wasn't actually written by Enuch. It was written,
Speaker 3: you know, century centuries, centuries later, maybe three hundred we're
Speaker 3: thinking maybe around three hundred BC, particularly in regard to
Speaker 3: the three paragraphs that we have from the Dead Seas
Speaker 3: culls confirming the existence of such a book. So it's
Speaker 3: hard to tell what Book of Enoch where people are referencing,
Speaker 3: when they're referencing, where did it actually come from? And
Speaker 3: how much of it is myth versus how much of
Speaker 3: it is true? So when you're looking at the Book
Speaker 3: of Nic. It was never considered to be scripture, never
Speaker 3: considered to be scripture by the Jewish people, never considered
Speaker 3: to be scripture by Jesus. He never references it. In fact,
Speaker 3: he's after he's been resurrected. When he's talking about himself
Speaker 3: to the disciples. The Bible says he goes from Moses
Speaker 3: all the way through the prophets. Well, if he was
Speaker 3: including the Book of Nich, it would have said he
Speaker 3: went from Enoch all the way through the prophets. And
Speaker 3: when you look at the Decalogue, for example, or the
Speaker 3: Word of God that was included in the arc of
Speaker 3: the Covenant. If the Book of Innuch was hail as
Speaker 3: divine inspiration, it would have pre existed Moses and it
Speaker 3: would have been included. Now, there's no question that the
Speaker 3: teachings of Nich, the life of Enich, the story of Enich,
Speaker 3: was passed down through the generations. We see that, of
Speaker 3: course through the writings of Moses as well, and there
Speaker 3: were probably additional teachings that were passed down. So he
Speaker 3: was probably revered. He probably spent three hundred years with Adham.
Speaker 3: Think about that. Adam lived to be nine hundred and
Speaker 3: whatever years of age. Enoch probably spent around three hundred
Speaker 3: years with Adam, and he was a prophetic voice during
Speaker 3: his time. And so a lot of people try to
Speaker 3: claim Enich. You have Enoke in magic. I think many
Speaker 3: in the Mason Mason community attempt to claim him as
Speaker 3: an originator. But the Bible has some interesting things to
Speaker 3: say about him. But the Book of enic was never
Speaker 3: considered actual inspired scripture. It was more considered, oh, here's
Speaker 3: kind of the myth, the legend surrounding these stories. What's
Speaker 3: will what's not? We don't really know in the Book
Speaker 3: of Enuch. So that's the reason why it was never
Speaker 3: really included in scripture. But it is to know what
Speaker 3: they were talking about back then and how they thought
Speaker 3: about these things because they had access to this writing.
Speaker 2: Almost like supplemental rather than the main. The main thing
Speaker 2: that makes I'm comfortable with that answer it something I've
Speaker 2: been thinking about a lot, and for anyone watching right now, three,
Speaker 2: I'm kind of just like skipping through and hitting a
Speaker 2: lot of main points. Is we only have an hour,
Speaker 2: and we're already at that like almost that hour mark.
Speaker 2: So I'm going to get him back. I'm going to
Speaker 2: get the bishop back on for a long form conversation.
Speaker 2: But this is kind of hitting all bullet points you
Speaker 2: brought up AI. A lot of people have been talking about,
Speaker 2: even guy like Joe Rogan have made the comparisons between
Speaker 2: say a Christ and AI and this idea of like
Speaker 2: immaculate conception. Do you what's what's your gauge on on AI?
Speaker 2: And you know whether it's demonic or from from from
Speaker 2: Hell or like some people claim, what's your take on
Speaker 2: AI in general?
Speaker 3: Well, Christians are always late adopters, you know, when the
Speaker 3: TV came out, he said, look at those Look at
Speaker 3: that antenna, that's the horns and the cable, that's the
Speaker 3: table devil. It's demonic. Yeah, everything's demonic. And as a result,
Speaker 3: we get behind the eight ball and we're not able
Speaker 3: to use it for the glory of God. So we're
Speaker 3: always we're always asking the question, how's the devil going
Speaker 3: to use this thing? And we never asked how does
Speaker 3: Jesus want to use this thing, you know, for the
Speaker 3: glory of God? And people will say, well, the Antichrist
Speaker 3: is going to use it to advance his agenda. I
Speaker 3: agree with you. He's also going to use guns to
Speaker 3: advance this agenda. But you're not taking mine either. It's
Speaker 3: just a tool. It's just a tool. And even if
Speaker 3: it was demonically inspired, we have a pattern throughout history.
Speaker 3: Goliath and the giants of Gath, they had advanced technology
Speaker 3: over the nation of Israel, in their in their iron,
Speaker 3: in their swords. And what David did is he and
Speaker 3: sheath glias On's sword and separated his head from his shoulders.
Speaker 3: He used enemy technology against him. Hayman in the story
Speaker 3: of Esther built gallows in order to destroy the people
Speaker 3: of God, and in the end he was hanging from
Speaker 3: the gallows he created. So God has a pattern of
Speaker 3: taking what the enemy creates and turning around and using
Speaker 3: it as a weapon against the enemy. When it comes
Speaker 3: to artificial intelligence, I don't think there's any question that
Speaker 3: it is going to be used for nefarious purposes. But
Speaker 3: until then we need to be using it to advance
Speaker 3: the Kingdom of God. But when we think of here's
Speaker 3: an interesting thought I had just the other day. Six
Speaker 3: six' six, right, that is the number of the beast. Yeah,
Speaker 3: the mark of the beast. Those numbers three, six's six
Speaker 3: represents humanity, three represents perfection. So what we're seeing is
Speaker 3: the peak of human achievement. That's what the Antichrist will be.
Speaker 1: He will be.
Speaker 3: He may even be some sort of Nephelum type entity
Speaker 3: with maybe he's got an early adopter to neuralink and
Speaker 3: he can appear to be supernaturally. You even will be supernatural,
Speaker 3: but even appear to be with technology. But six sixty six,
Speaker 3: what that means is peak human achievement. What is going
Speaker 3: to happen as a result of AI? We have reached officially,
Speaker 3: this is my prediction, peak human achievement. What is going
Speaker 3: to happen the moment you're no longer driving your own
Speaker 3: car you have AI assisting you. Well, within a few months,
Speaker 3: are you going to be a better driver or a
Speaker 3: worse driver? Well, you're going to be a worst driver.
Speaker 3: And that's going to be the case for so many things.
Speaker 3: We have reached the peak of human achievement and now
Speaker 3: it's just going to start to go downhill because we
Speaker 3: have AI doing our thinking for us.
Speaker 2: Just like you know, people used to peep. I know,
Speaker 2: you know, I might look young, but I'm thirty thirty three.
Speaker 2: I lived in a world pre Internet. People used to
Speaker 2: drive with no GPS, people used to remember phone numbers
Speaker 2: and then and actually you weren't even really allowed to
Speaker 2: use a calculator in math alone, you know whatever they're
Speaker 2: using now, like my little brother when he was in
Speaker 2: high school, like they were letting them use their phone
Speaker 2: in the internet in school, like at their desk, and
Speaker 2: it's like we were. We were barely allowed to use
Speaker 2: a T nine calculator on a map. What do you
Speaker 2: and now everyone all that information? I can't remember a
Speaker 2: phone number to save my life, I can't.
Speaker 4: I couldn't get forget map quests.
Speaker 3: I had the you know, the big unfold I had
Speaker 3: to travel across the country with big maps that you
Speaker 3: got to unfold and get hoped.
Speaker 2: That was my dad's a mover, so he had every
Speaker 2: one of those books because he was like.
Speaker 3: Jack Sparrow navigating the nation with the map.
Speaker 2: It's so good. Do you think is it possible? I
Speaker 2: know it's no one knows when the end of times
Speaker 2: is only they say only God knows the exact moment
Speaker 2: or the exact time. But looking around, I can't help
Speaker 2: but think, and maybe everybody thinks this way. If the
Speaker 2: Bible is correct in saying that there will be an
Speaker 2: end of times, I look around, and I see the
Speaker 2: world on fire, people more bided than ever. You can't
Speaker 2: trust what's real or not. So many other things. I mean,
Speaker 2: I could list them on and on and on.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're exactly right.
Speaker 2: Does it not? Yeah? Does it not? Is it not
Speaker 2: reminiscent at least of what the Bible says in terms
Speaker 2: of the end of time and what it might look like?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I wrote a book called They Lied to You About
Speaker 3: the Rapture, which I was concerned with people in my
Speaker 3: own camp and I'm a believer in the Rapture, but
Speaker 3: they were misrepresenting it. So heineously, I thought, we need
Speaker 3: to address this, and as I researched it, one of
Speaker 3: the most shocking things I found was thirty five to
Speaker 3: forty two percent of Americans believe we're living in the
Speaker 3: last days. There's not thirty five to forty two percent
Speaker 3: of Americans that are practicing Christians, so there's a large
Speaker 3: swath of people who believe we're in the en times.
Speaker 3: And even more shocking, I believe it's eighteen percent of agnostics,
Speaker 3: nine percent of atheists believe we're living in the last days.
Speaker 4: So what is that?
Speaker 3: It means that they're picking up on exactly what you said.
Speaker 3: Everyone regardless of their background, is getting this sense that
Speaker 3: this is not normal what we're seeing, this is not natural,
Speaker 3: this is not normal. That's evil. And so people are
Speaker 3: beginning to ask this question. And I think that when
Speaker 3: you see what we mentioned earlier, this confluence or this
Speaker 3: convergence of what appears to be Bible prophecy being fulfilled,
Speaker 3: from the Nation visual being re established, Noah's art being rediscovered,
Speaker 3: a whole host of prophecies concerning the Nation visual all
Speaker 3: falling into play. It's hard not to say we could
Speaker 3: be the generation and people mock and scoff at that.
Speaker 3: But even one of the prophecies that Peter gave, he said,
Speaker 3: there will come in the last day Scott for saying, Ah,
Speaker 3: every generation said.
Speaker 4: Everybody said that.
Speaker 3: And so when you start to talk about this, people say, yeah,
Speaker 3: every generation said that. And my response is you're right
Speaker 3: until you And now we have this mass mocking of
Speaker 3: the subject matter, which I think is fulfillment a Bible
Speaker 3: prophecy itself. So I do believe we are living in
Speaker 3: the last days. I think it's one of the most
Speaker 3: consistent commands in the New Testament. Twenty two times explicitly
Speaker 3: it says you better watch for be ready, be ready
Speaker 3: in any moment. Jesus could return at any moment, and
Speaker 3: I think we're in that any moment period.
Speaker 2: Do you think the Antichrist is honored at this moment?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I believe he's alive right now.
Speaker 3: Of course, I believe he's the Satan always has an
Speaker 3: Antichrist because Satan doesn't know the time or this is.
Speaker 3: He's always trying to accomplish this mission. So he's always
Speaker 3: got someone or in place. Yeah, he's always got candidates
Speaker 3: that he's trying to put in place. But there's something
Speaker 3: holding him back. There's salt and there's light. Salt holds
Speaker 3: back decay. Light holds back darkness. So every time he
Speaker 3: almost accomplishes it, the light rises and overcomes him. The
Speaker 3: salt enters in and holds back the decay. But there's
Speaker 3: coming a time when that salt, that light will be
Speaker 3: removed and he'll be able to do what he's desired
Speaker 3: to do from the beginning.
Speaker 2: Well, last question. Megalic structures around like the Age prove
Speaker 2: Ballbeck Turkey. They show technology and precision that some say
Speaker 2: is just simply way beyond human capability at the time.
Speaker 2: Do you see any biblical or spiritual connection between these
Speaker 2: ancient achievements impossible non human influence.
Speaker 3: Well, of course, the narrative is we're getting smarter and smarter, right,
Speaker 3: Humanity is evolving and we're getting smarter and smarter and smarter.
Speaker 3: And these these structures, these ziggurats, these megalithic structures, are
Speaker 3: proving the exact opposite that we have advanced technology. Not
Speaker 3: only that they had beyond their ears, we don't know
Speaker 3: how they did it. Even to this day, we don't
Speaker 3: know how they did and built many of these structures
Speaker 3: and moved many of these stones and placed them with
Speaker 3: the precision that they placed them. So I think that
Speaker 3: shows that proves the biblical narrative, even when you go
Speaker 3: back to the Tower of Bible where you see this
Speaker 3: construction attempting to build a portal to heaven. So yeah,
Speaker 3: I do think that this could be evidence of advanced
Speaker 3: intelligence and that human beings are always attempting to partner
Speaker 3: with it, even at the cost of their own souls.
Speaker 3: You know, they told us that the government operates in
Speaker 3: these silos. Some believe that these are benevolent beings. They
Speaker 3: truly do believe that that we should partner with. But
Speaker 3: then there are others within the government think of this,
Speaker 3: who believe these are demonic, that these are demons, but
Speaker 3: they are still willing to partner with them in exchange
Speaker 3: for influence, for money, for power.
Speaker 4: That's what we're dealing with.
Speaker 2: And well, look at like the Epstein stuff, exactly right,
Speaker 2: and these are separate conversations. No they're not. And that's
Speaker 2: the dirty true that no one wants to get into.
Speaker 2: A lot of people in the UFO community don't want
Speaker 2: to touch it with a tempt pole because it's so
Speaker 2: dark and and and dirty. I hate to say it.
Speaker 2: The look at what he was interested in? Gravity? Why
Speaker 2: did he have all these scientists, Why was he hanging
Speaker 2: around Why was he hanging around the ranch at the
Speaker 2: at the ranch trying to pick up scientists who lost
Speaker 2: their funding? Why? Why why is it that Glene macdwell
Speaker 2: Uh had a these Norwegian Nordic looking assistants and their
Speaker 2: hair would consistently disappear from the dreams in the shower?
Speaker 2: What what is it that that was really going on?
Speaker 2: Because obviously the child stuff that was that was obviously
Speaker 2: one aspect of it. But what was large pit, what
Speaker 2: was the larger pad, What was his what was his achievement?
Speaker 2: What did he want to see happen? I think some
Speaker 2: sort of I mean I can't pretend to know, but
Speaker 2: I can't imagine it was it was going to be
Speaker 2: a good thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a traffic element to this that causes an
Speaker 3: overlap something. That's where these entities want to experiment on
Speaker 3: human beings. Some say that they see us as vessels.
Speaker 3: Some researchers have said that they see us as vessels.
Speaker 3: Others say what they're actually experimenting on is our soul.
Speaker 3: Others say they're creating these representative Matt Gate said, there's
Speaker 3: these hybridization programs.
Speaker 2: So do you think they do that work among us? Yeah,
Speaker 2: and to let us let our guard down, let these things,
Speaker 2: let these things into some degree.
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course. And it's all a distraction. It's all
Speaker 3: a distraction. Look over here, don't pay attention. There's no god.
Speaker 3: You're not accountable to any god. Actually, there's no god,
Speaker 3: alien seated life on this planet. So we're not accountable
Speaker 3: to any creator for our behavior. We just our lineages.
Speaker 3: Actually them, and they'll show us the way. They'll show
Speaker 3: us right.
Speaker 4: With them.
Speaker 2: Morality is a choice being, but is a choice right,
Speaker 2: It's not something that is necessary Once that's off the table.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's a scary thought. Bishop. I'd love to
Speaker 2: have you back on. I know we have a very
Speaker 2: short limited time today. If there's one thing from the
Speaker 2: thank you, there's one thing from the briefing and the
Speaker 2: meeting that you that you could that we didn't touch
Speaker 2: on that is there something that you want people to
Speaker 2: know that isn't getting a lot of attention.
Speaker 3: Just that the Bible has the most interesting and true
Speaker 3: narrative about this subject matter. And I want to encourage
Speaker 3: pastors and church leaders. Number One, we need to fight
Speaker 3: for disclosure. We need to make sure even if you know,
Speaker 3: even when we get disclosure, we're not going to get
Speaker 3: everything that we want, but we need to fight for it.
Speaker 3: Number Two, pastors need to begin preaching and teaching from
Speaker 3: their pulpits what the Bible says about these entities and
Speaker 3: about the believers authority. And I don't want anybody listening
Speaker 3: to this to be fearful. We're not saying this to
Speaker 3: scare you. We're saying this to prepare you. When we
Speaker 3: talk about the end times, I don't want you to be.
Speaker 3: I'm not trying to sensationalize or fear monger it because
Speaker 3: if you're if you trust in Jesus Christ, the end
Speaker 3: times aren't happening to you. You're happening to the end times.
Speaker 3: It's completely inverted. And so the real message is who
Speaker 3: are you trusting in? And are you trusting in Jesus
Speaker 3: for your eternal salvation. If you'll do that, you can
Speaker 3: have peace even in these turbulent times, and victory and
Speaker 3: authority in the name of Jesus.
Speaker 2: Wow. Well, like I said, I'd really love to have
Speaker 2: you back on for a proper you know, like a
Speaker 2: long form maybe even fly into Boston. Uh, sit down
Speaker 2: in the studio. Yeah. I have a lot of questions.
Speaker 2: I mean I have a lot of real, real questions
Speaker 2: about you know, like, well, for Jesus, how do people
Speaker 2: get into heaven? That kind of stuff, stuff that if
Speaker 2: I get out of church, like they won't talk to
Speaker 2: me anymore. When I introduced the idea of you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, so I have I'm a very natchal
Speaker 2: curious person and I do have lots of questions and
Speaker 2: you know, exorcisms like I'm what ever seen you know,
Speaker 2: have you seen one like, what does it look like?
Speaker 2: What does it sound like? You've you've seen them, you.
Speaker 4: Have performed hundreds, hundreds.
Speaker 2: Oh all right, we're bringing you in.
Speaker 4: I will for one hundred thousand people.
Speaker 3: You encounter a lot of stuff, a lot of stuff,
Speaker 3: especially when around the world as we have.
Speaker 2: Oh man, I have so many questions now and I've
Speaker 2: now I'm hyped up. But where can people find? I
Speaker 2: know you do? Uh? You you do the internet? So
Speaker 2: you have uh an internet based mystery that you preached through.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we have a church in Charlotte, North Carolina called Revival.
Speaker 2: You have a mortar too though, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been pastoring for nearly a quarter of a century,
Speaker 3: been in full time ministry for a quarter of a century.
Speaker 4: And we have a website.
Speaker 3: We have a strong online ministry and reach tons of
Speaker 3: free resources. But you can go to Revival Nation dot
Speaker 3: com even in a store. We've got some free books.
Speaker 3: And when you go on the website Revopination dot com,
Speaker 3: there's even a section on the homepage there with is
Speaker 3: all kinds of alien UFO, uIP information, teachings, articles, stuff
Speaker 3: that you'll be blessed by.
Speaker 2: So check it out, all right, and uh to everyone
Speaker 2: listen watching Thank you. It's a bit of a shorter segment,
Speaker 2: but again I have now I really really want to
Speaker 2: keep going. But we'll we'll we'll teasey here, we'll end
Speaker 2: it here. We'll definitely be hearing more from the bishop.
Speaker 2: And I really thank you for taking the time tonight.
Speaker 2: I know you have another show you get to jump on, though.
Speaker 2: Thanks again for your time and for your service, your service.
Speaker 2: It's you know, I know we didn't get talk about
Speaker 2: it a lot, but you know I havn't been InCAR.
Speaker 2: You know, found your way. I think that is such
Speaker 2: a beautiful story just by itself. So uh, you know,
Speaker 2: you give people inspiration and you keep their inspiration alive
Speaker 2: on a daily and that is service with no guarantee,
Speaker 2: and I respect that no matter what religion it comes from.
Speaker 2: So thank you and do you everyone out there, We'll
Speaker 2: see you on the next one.
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