Donald Trump and Joe Rogan- SPECIAL PRESENTATION

0:00 Speaker 1: All right, So this is a special presentation. It is

0:04 Speaker 1: going to be an episode from Joe Rogan, him and

0:07 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. I'm going to be in DC this week

0:10 Speaker 1: for the UFO hearings, so there will be no podcast.

0:14 Speaker 1: We're putting this out as a special presentation. Once we

0:17 Speaker 1: get back from DC, i'll put that podcast together. I

0:22 Speaker 1: have a bunch of different full length interviews that I'll

0:26 Speaker 1: be able to put out, and then we're going to

0:29 Speaker 1: compile it into a short film. So it'd be really

0:33 Speaker 1: fun and I can't wait to see guys when.

0:36 Speaker 2: We get back.

0:43 Speaker 3: Here we go. One of the things I wanted to

0:47 Speaker 3: talk to you about. I wanted to play this, but

0:49 Speaker 3: we decided we shouldn't play it because it could get

0:52 Speaker 3: copyright strike and we don't want to get the episode.

0:55 Speaker 3: We don't want anybody to have any sort of a

0:57 Speaker 3: way to get it down. Sure, but it was the

1:00 Speaker 3: episode of you when You're on the View, and I

1:03 Speaker 3: think it was twenty fifteen or two thousand and six,

1:06 Speaker 3: when you were running for president and you sat you

1:10 Speaker 3: got introduced as our friend Donald Trump. Will Be Goldberg

1:15 Speaker 3: gives you a big hug and a kiss. Joy Behar

1:18 Speaker 3: gives you a big hug. Barbara Walters gives you a

1:21 Speaker 3: big hug. They all loved you. They were all talking

1:24 Speaker 3: about how you might be you might be conservative in

1:31 Speaker 3: your financial positions, but you're very liberal socially. They were

1:35 Speaker 3: talking about you is such a favorable light. The audience

1:39 Speaker 3: was cheering, and then you actually started winning in the polls,

1:44 Speaker 3: and then the machine started working towards you. But it's

1:48 Speaker 3: there's probably no one in history that I've ever seen

1:53 Speaker 3: that's been attacked the way you've been attacked and the

1:56 Speaker 3: way they've done it so coordinated and systematic. When you

2:00 Speaker 3: see those same people in the past very favorable to you,

2:03 Speaker 3: like Oprah. When you were on oprah show, she was

2:06 Speaker 3: encouraging you.

2:06 Speaker 2: Last week I did one of her last shows, I

2:08 Speaker 2: think maybe Thursday or that was a big deal being

2:11 Speaker 2: on Oprah's show, the last one, and I was like

2:14 Speaker 2: one of the last shows in that last that final week,

2:17 Speaker 2: and I said, boy, we've come a long way since

2:21 Speaker 2: since that. What was it like, Well, the concept it

2:25 Speaker 2: was really like two different lives. You know. I had

2:28 Speaker 2: a very wonderful life, but I wanted to do this.

2:30 Speaker 2: The Apprentice was still going very strong. We had twelve seasons,

2:34 Speaker 2: and we had actually fourteen seasons, twelve years over. They

2:39 Speaker 2: had a couple well.

2:40 Speaker 3: They canceled the Apprentice when you were running for president. Correct.

2:43 Speaker 2: No, they had Arnold Schwarzenegger do it. I was involved

2:46 Speaker 2: in that and I had enough of it, and we

2:49 Speaker 2: did great. It was doing great. But they wanted me

2:52 Speaker 2: to stay. They all came to see me. They said,

2:55 Speaker 2: we're going to give you a contract. They wanted to

2:56 Speaker 2: extend my contract. Mark Burnett is a great guy, and

3:00 Speaker 2: I wanted to extend the contract. Mark said, you're crazy.

3:02 Speaker 2: Don't run. Don't run. Nobody gives up prime time. They said,

3:05 Speaker 2: you know, it's one of those little things, which is

3:08 Speaker 2: probably true.

3:09 Speaker 3: Nobody for the.

3:09 Speaker 2: Rest, for running well, for running against twenty some odd people.

3:15 Speaker 2: You know, it turned out to be eighteen eighteen professional people,

3:18 Speaker 2: you know, mostly politicians. They said, who would do this?

3:21 Speaker 2: I mean it's a long shot. Actually, the heads of

3:23 Speaker 2: NBC came over, the Paul te Legne, all the top

3:27 Speaker 2: people came over to see me, try and talk me

3:29 Speaker 2: out of it because they wanted to have me extend.

3:31 Speaker 2: The Apprentice was doing well. So it was fourteen seasons.

3:35 Speaker 2: It was twelve years. We had won two seasons where

3:38 Speaker 2: we had a double which rarely happens. It was just

3:40 Speaker 2: a hot show, and I said, you know, I want

3:44 Speaker 2: to do this. What happened is previously, like three years

3:48 Speaker 2: four years before that, they did a poll, they had

3:51 Speaker 2: Mitt Romney, and somehow they put me in a poll

3:54 Speaker 2: and I blew everybody away. I blew him away, which

3:56 Speaker 2: isn't that hard, frankly, but I blew everybody away. And

3:59 Speaker 2: I said, that's interesting because I never really gave it

4:02 Speaker 2: that much real thought. I thought about it, but never

4:04 Speaker 2: real thought. But I saw these polls were very good,

4:07 Speaker 2: and so I was thinking about doing it then, but

4:09 Speaker 2: I had a contract with the Apprentice. Plus I was

4:11 Speaker 2: building two big buildings at the time, and I wanted

4:13 Speaker 2: to make sure they got finished up properly. And it's

4:15 Speaker 2: one of those things the kids were just sort of

4:17 Speaker 2: getting involved. They're very capable kids, but they were getting

4:20 Speaker 2: involved early on. So I did that. I got them done.

4:24 Speaker 2: I had some very good successes and I came on

4:27 Speaker 2: and then I thought about it for the next one

4:29 Speaker 2: after the Romney disaster, and I ran and I won

4:33 Speaker 2: against Hillary and there was quite an experience. But it

4:37 Speaker 2: was a different life because you're right the view. I

4:40 Speaker 2: was in the view many many times, and they loved me.

4:44 Speaker 3: Just the way people would talk. I mean, even if

4:45 Speaker 3: people had criticisms about you, people that didn't like you.

4:48 Speaker 3: There was always feuds and stuff like that. But the

4:50 Speaker 3: reality was the thing turned on you when they found

4:54 Speaker 3: out that you were going to be president. It was

4:55 Speaker 3: very coordinated, and some people are catching onto that now.

5:00 Speaker 3: There's a lot of people that were longtime Democrats like

5:02 Speaker 3: Elon and Bill Ackman and all these different very intelligent people.

5:06 Speaker 2: And they support me. Bill very supportive to.

5:10 Speaker 3: What this one. I wanted to ask you, what was

5:13 Speaker 3: it like when you actually got in, because nobody really

5:16 Speaker 3: can prepare you for that. When you're running for president,

5:18 Speaker 3: you don't really know what it's going to be like

5:20 Speaker 3: when you actually get into office. What was the what

5:23 Speaker 3: did you think there was.

5:24 Speaker 2: Going to be in office? Or when I decided to run,

5:27 Speaker 2: when you got in, when I was so when I

5:29 Speaker 2: was in and won and was in the White House essentially, well,

5:34 Speaker 2: first of all, it was very surreal. It's very interesting.

5:37 Speaker 2: When I got shot, it wasn't surreal. That should have

5:40 Speaker 2: been surreal. When I was laying in the ground, I

5:42 Speaker 2: knew exactly what was going on. I knew exactly where

5:45 Speaker 2: I was hit. They were saying you were hit all

5:47 Speaker 2: over the place because it was so much blood from

5:49 Speaker 2: the ear. You would know that better than anyone when

5:52 Speaker 2: they get the ear turn anyway. So and I was

5:57 Speaker 2: thinking at the other day when when that happened, I

6:00 Speaker 2: really knew where I was. I knew exactly what happened.

6:03 Speaker 2: I said, I wasn't hit anywhere. With the with the presidency.

6:08 Speaker 2: It was a very surreal experience.

6:10 Speaker 3: Okay, and what's day one life? So in Yeah, you

6:13 Speaker 3: get inaugurated. Holy, I'm the president.

6:16 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what happened. So I'm driving down Pennsylvania Avenue.

6:19 Speaker 2: I just built a building on Pennsyl. You know the hotel,

6:22 Speaker 2: the old post office it was. We called it Trump

6:24 Speaker 2: National Hotel, and we sold it to the Waldorf Astoria

6:30 Speaker 2: and it was a wonderful thing. But I'm driving down,

6:32 Speaker 2: I'm passing the hotel. You've never seen so many motorcycles, police, military,

6:39 Speaker 2: you know. It was a major thing. I got off

6:42 Speaker 2: really the first time I used Air Force One landed

6:45 Speaker 2: and we're coming down and there were it was very beauty.

6:49 Speaker 2: I mean, it was incredible, and we're going down Pennsylvania

6:52 Speaker 2: Avenue in the opposite direction. You know, normally you used

6:54 Speaker 2: to go in one way, and all of a sudden,

6:56 Speaker 2: you're going the other way. The street was loaded up,

7:00 Speaker 2: and I wanted to go out and I wanted to

7:03 Speaker 2: wave to everybody, but that wasn't smart. You know, they

7:06 Speaker 2: can a little bit dangerous, right, I mean when you

7:09 Speaker 2: watch like Kennedy and some of else. Right, But I

7:12 Speaker 2: really felt, I don't know, the love was so crazy,

7:15 Speaker 2: and so I did get out of the car for

7:18 Speaker 2: a brief, you know, just for a very short walk.

7:20 Speaker 2: I thought it was very important to do. And Malania

7:22 Speaker 2: got out with a beautiful dress on that became sort

7:25 Speaker 2: of a staple. People loved it. And Barren and were

7:30 Speaker 2: walking down the street, but we're really got amazing. We

7:35 Speaker 2: get to the White House and now it's a little bit,

7:38 Speaker 2: a little bit before dark, beautiful, and we went up

7:42 Speaker 2: to the President's quarters they call them the Presidential Quarters,

7:46 Speaker 2: and I'm standing in this beautiful hallway. You know, it's funny,

7:51 Speaker 2: nobody ever talks about the White House as being beautiful inside.

7:55 Speaker 2: You know, you think it's going to be everything's going

7:56 Speaker 2: to be all metal doors and stuff. It's not it's

8:00 Speaker 2: so beautiful. I made my money largely on luxury. The

8:04 Speaker 2: hallway is like twenty five feet wide. The ceiling heights

8:07 Speaker 2: are know every it's so beautiful. But I was standing

8:11 Speaker 2: there and I said to the guys, I want to

8:13 Speaker 2: see the Lincoln bedroom. I had never seen the Lincoln bedroom.

8:16 Speaker 2: I'd heard about the Lincoln bedroom. And I was standing

8:19 Speaker 2: with my wife. I said, do you believe it? This

8:22 Speaker 2: is the Lincoln bedroom. I mean, it was like it was.

8:28 Speaker 2: It was amazing, because it's luck if you love the country.

8:32 Speaker 2: But he or the Lincoln bedroom and the bed. You know,

8:36 Speaker 2: he was very tall. He was six foot six, which

8:38 Speaker 2: then would be like like Baron would be like Baron

8:42 Speaker 2: Trump he's six ' nine, but six foot six. He

8:46 Speaker 2: was very tall. Then on top of that, he worked there.

8:48 Speaker 2: It is he wore that. Yeah, there it is. It's

8:50 Speaker 2: a long bed, elongated bed and because very you know,

8:53 Speaker 2: people were shorter than you see some of the chairs

8:57 Speaker 2: are very very low to the ground. Actually, but he

9:00 Speaker 2: had the long bed and they had you had the

9:03 Speaker 2: Gettysburg address right on that right under that. You can't

9:07 Speaker 2: see it here, but right there the original version of

9:09 Speaker 2: the Gettysburg address. And this is the original, and I'm

9:13 Speaker 2: looking and I just looked around. I said, do you

9:16 Speaker 2: believe this? Because I was never first So even if

9:20 Speaker 2: you were a politician, but I was never a politician.

9:22 Speaker 2: It just I sort of just started right and all

9:25 Speaker 2: of a sudden, I'm standing at the White House, and

9:27 Speaker 2: it was very, very surreal. That room was so beautiful

9:31 Speaker 2: to me, much more beautiful than it actually is, you know,

9:33 Speaker 2: to me. When I looked at the bed, and the

9:36 Speaker 2: bed you could see it was a little bit longer,

9:37 Speaker 2: had to be a little bit longer. He lost his

9:40 Speaker 2: son and they suffered, The two of them suffered from melancholia.

9:44 Speaker 2: They didn't call it depression. They called it melancholia, and

9:49 Speaker 2: they suffered from it. He was a very depressed guy

9:52 Speaker 2: and she was a very depressed woman, more so than him.

9:57 Speaker 2: And on top of that, they lost their son. His

10:00 Speaker 2: name was Tad, Tad, and it was just seeing it

10:06 Speaker 2: in the little picture, a little tiny picture, I mean,

10:08 Speaker 2: you can't see the details there, a little tiny everything

10:10 Speaker 2: in the wad was a little tiny picture of Tad,

10:14 Speaker 2: who he lost, and it was devastating. And he was,

10:19 Speaker 2: you know, he was look, he was in a war

10:23 Speaker 2: and he was having a hard time because he couldn't

10:25 Speaker 2: beat Robert E. Lee. Roberty Lee won like thirteen battles

10:27 Speaker 2: in a row, and he was getting like a phobia

10:30 Speaker 2: like a fighter, you know, not about the fight stuff.

10:34 Speaker 2: But like I went to a UFC fight and it

10:39 Speaker 2: was a champion who was fourteen and one about a

10:42 Speaker 2: year ago. You would know the names fourteen and one.

10:45 Speaker 2: And the only guy he lost to was this one guy.

10:48 Speaker 2: But the guy that he was fighting was like almost

10:52 Speaker 2: just an average fighter, lost numerous times, but he beat

10:54 Speaker 2: this one guy.

10:55 Speaker 3: So I said, Okay, I really don't know who you're

10:57 Speaker 3: talking about.

10:58 Speaker 2: I will figure it out, but about a year ago.

11:01 Speaker 2: But the point is that he lost. He wasn't nearly

11:03 Speaker 2: the fighters, but the one who was not nearly the

11:07 Speaker 2: fighter had beaten. He's the only guy that beat the

11:10 Speaker 2: champ like five years before. And I said, I'll take

11:13 Speaker 2: the guy that won the other fight, and that's what happened.

11:16 Speaker 2: He beat him a second time. Sometimes is this crazy

11:20 Speaker 2: thing Lincoln had, I don't know, I've never read this.

11:25 Speaker 2: I heard it from people in the White House who

11:28 Speaker 2: really understand what was going on with the whole life

11:32 Speaker 2: of the White House. But Lincoln had the yips about

11:36 Speaker 2: in a way as the golfers would say. He had

11:39 Speaker 2: a phobia about Roberty. Lee said, I can't beat Roberty

11:42 Speaker 2: because Roberty Lee won many battles in a row. He

11:45 Speaker 2: was just beating the hell out of you know. They

11:46 Speaker 2: tried to get Roberty Lee to be on the North,

11:48 Speaker 2: but he said, no, I have to be with my state.

11:51 Speaker 2: You know, the state was his whole thing. And he

11:54 Speaker 2: went to the South and he was I've had generals

11:58 Speaker 2: tell me we have some great generals, the real and

12:00 Speaker 2: it was not the ones you see on television, the

12:01 Speaker 2: ones that beat Isis. With me. We defeated Isis in

12:05 Speaker 2: record time. It was supposed to take years and we

12:08 Speaker 2: did it in a matter of weeks. These are great generals.

12:11 Speaker 2: These are tough guys. These are not woke guys. But

12:14 Speaker 2: their favorite general in terms of genius was Robert E. Lee.

12:18 Speaker 2: He took a strategy, strategy strategically. He took a war

12:22 Speaker 2: that should have been over in a few days, and

12:25 Speaker 2: it was, you know, years of hell, a vicious war.

12:30 Speaker 2: And so here I am standing there and again I

12:36 Speaker 2: had never really done this before. You know, I ran.

12:38 Speaker 2: I ran a number of months before I won, I probably,

12:43 Speaker 2: I guess if you figured max it out, it would

12:45 Speaker 2: be a year something like that. So I had never

12:49 Speaker 2: run for office, and I did well. I mean I

12:52 Speaker 2: went into debates. We had eighteen people including me, and

12:55 Speaker 2: then slowly but surely they started to disappear. We had debates,

12:59 Speaker 2: good debates.

13:00 Speaker 3: Everyone's wear all this stuff. What I want to get

13:02 Speaker 3: to is like, what was the experience once you got inside?

13:05 Speaker 3: It was just what did you think it was going

13:07 Speaker 3: to be like in terms of like your ability to govern? Yeah,

13:09 Speaker 3: like this is your first experience governing anything. You've never

13:12 Speaker 3: been a governor, private, private stuff business, but now all

13:17 Speaker 3: of a sudden, well they're inside the house.

13:19 Speaker 2: The biggest thing was just that first moment of being

13:22 Speaker 2: in this hallowed it was really a hallowed place. To me,

13:25 Speaker 2: it was it was beyond to me. That's that was

13:28 Speaker 2: the experience. It was a surreal experience. And then with

13:32 Speaker 2: time that wears off. With time it becomes you know

13:35 Speaker 2: your place, where you stay. And I was doing a

13:39 Speaker 2: lot of I was I had two things that I

13:42 Speaker 2: really focused on, governing the country and survival because from

13:48 Speaker 2: the moment I won, before I got to office, all

13:52 Speaker 2: of a sudden I mean they came down. I mean,

13:55 Speaker 2: nobody has ever been treated that way. And and you

13:59 Speaker 2: see that, I mean, you see we're in the Washington Post.

14:01 Speaker 2: Very early on they said, well, now the impeachment stuff starts,

14:04 Speaker 2: and it did. I mean it literally started from the beginning.

14:06 Speaker 2: So I had survival and run the nation. I had

14:09 Speaker 2: a combination. Most people don't have the survival they get in.

14:14 Speaker 3: What did you expect though, in terms of like once

14:16 Speaker 3: you got inside, you had to appoint all these people.

14:19 Speaker 3: How many appointments did you have to make?

14:21 Speaker 2: Well, you have actually actually ten thousand appointments. Now they're different.

14:25 Speaker 2: You know, you have big ones and then they appoint

14:27 Speaker 2: one hundred people and two hundred people. But the president

14:31 Speaker 2: really is involved with approximately ten thousand appointments. So you'll

14:35 Speaker 2: appoint a secretary of state and he will he or

14:38 Speaker 2: she will appoint a lot of people. So it's a lot.

14:40 Speaker 2: But in terms of major ones, you probably have like

14:43 Speaker 2: a hundred, but they're big ones, Treasury, State, Military.

14:49 Speaker 3: And how did you know who to appoint?

14:52 Speaker 2: Well I didn't. I had you have to understand. So

14:55 Speaker 2: I was there seventeen times in Washington, and I never

14:59 Speaker 2: stayed over course to the press, which I think is

15:01 Speaker 2: probably right. Over the years, I was only there seventeen times.

15:04 Speaker 2: I never stayed over. So now I'm sitting there, I'm saying,

15:09 Speaker 2: this place is gorgeous, But you know, I don't know anybody.

15:12 Speaker 2: It's like you. You know, you go to certain areas

15:14 Speaker 2: and other areas they may be great. Washington was great,

15:17 Speaker 2: Washington's not so great. Right now they're going to we

15:20 Speaker 2: got to fix it. We're going to make it better.

15:22 Speaker 2: A very dangerous place, very badly maintained place. We're going

15:25 Speaker 2: to make it great. We're going to make it better.

15:27 Speaker 2: We're going to bring it back. But I wasn't a

15:30 Speaker 2: Washington guy. I was a New York guy. I was

15:32 Speaker 2: a New York builder, and I built buildings in New York,

15:35 Speaker 2: and I knew that whole world, but I didn't know

15:37 Speaker 2: the Washington world too well. And all of a sudden,

15:39 Speaker 2: you're supposed to be appointing top people.

15:41 Speaker 3: So what did you think it was going to be

15:43 Speaker 3: like versus like did you have any ideas of what

15:46 Speaker 3: it was going to be like and what was different?

15:48 Speaker 2: Well, I was always involved in politics, but usually from

15:50 Speaker 2: the standpoint of a donor. I was a donor, you know,

15:53 Speaker 2: I was a big donor. I gave money to politicians.

15:55 Speaker 2: I enjoyed postly Democrats, right, both really pretty much both.

16:00 Speaker 2: I actually pictures of Ronald Reagan and me when I.

16:03 Speaker 3: Was very you were a Democrat until like what year.

16:06 Speaker 2: I was a Democrat. I could get you the exact

16:11 Speaker 2: but the early nineties, the early nineties, I switched over eventually.

16:15 Speaker 2: Actually they had a Reform Party. I was thinking about

16:18 Speaker 2: doing that for a little while, but then fortunately I

16:20 Speaker 2: didn't because it's very hard. You know, it's a two

16:23 Speaker 2: party system. And anytime you hear third party, I know

16:26 Speaker 2: you like RFK Jr. And so do. He's a fantastic

16:29 Speaker 2: I too, But I thought that an independent it doesn't work.

16:32 Speaker 2: It doesn't work because even if you do great, you're

16:35 Speaker 2: not going to get Congress. In other words, you need

16:38 Speaker 2: now to say, okay, now I'll get half of Congress

16:40 Speaker 2: that's never going to vote for you. So even if

16:42 Speaker 2: you got there, which is very hard, and but and

16:46 Speaker 2: I know how you feel about Bobby and I feel

16:48 Speaker 2: the same way, and he's now with us, but it

16:51 Speaker 2: doesn't it's really it's pure and simple. It's a two

16:53 Speaker 2: party system. And somebody I won't mention his name, But

16:57 Speaker 2: somebody spent two hundred and fifty million dollars trying to

17:00 Speaker 2: get the nomination as a Reform Party candidate or whatever,

17:03 Speaker 2: and they got just nowhere. You get eaten. You just

17:06 Speaker 2: get eaten. The system eats you alive. So so it

17:11 Speaker 2: was it was really somebody that not only was new

17:14 Speaker 2: to Washington, but was new to politics. So in the

17:21 Speaker 2: office of the presidency over the years, all those presidents

17:26 Speaker 2: you've had, ninety two percent were politicians and eight percent

17:30 Speaker 2: were generals. General Eisenhower or General Washington, right, General George

17:34 Speaker 2: Washington had generals, So it's eight percent no admirals, eight

17:38 Speaker 2: percent generals, and ninety two percent politicians. You know, the politicians,

17:42 Speaker 2: and they go on. So they never had a business

17:45 Speaker 2: guy or they never had a guy that wasn't elected

17:47 Speaker 2: to an office. They were all like Ronald Reagan was

17:50 Speaker 2: really he was a movie actor and then but he

17:52 Speaker 2: became the governor of California for I think two terms

17:55 Speaker 2: and then he ran. So you'd never had a thing

17:59 Speaker 2: like this, But I you know, in terms of me,

18:02 Speaker 2: and sometimes I'd use it as an excuse, and I

18:06 Speaker 2: don't like having excuses, actually, but I'd use it as

18:08 Speaker 2: an excuse. I had to rely on people that I

18:12 Speaker 2: respected or liked, but that I didn't know that well.

18:15 Speaker 2: Because I didn't know them that well. Some of those

18:17 Speaker 2: people I campaigned against, because you know, when you have

18:19 Speaker 2: eighteen people, we had mostly politicians running in the election,

18:23 Speaker 2: you know, running in the primaries, and they got knocked

18:26 Speaker 2: out one by one. But I got to like some

18:28 Speaker 2: of them. Some of them I didn't like at all,

18:30 Speaker 2: and I don't like them now, and i'd rely on them,

18:33 Speaker 2: and i'd rely on other people. So all of a sudden,

18:36 Speaker 2: people would come in. I'd like to recommend so and

18:38 Speaker 2: so to be Secretary of State, and I have three

18:41 Speaker 2: four people recommend one thing. I can tell you everybody

18:44 Speaker 2: wants the position, of course, no doubt. But sometimes I'll

18:47 Speaker 2: hear a lot of people don't want to work with

18:49 Speaker 2: Trump because Trump is tough to work with, et cetera.

18:51 Speaker 2: Let me tell you everybody wants to be any one

18:54 Speaker 2: of these positions. They die for it. Of course, now

18:57 Speaker 2: they don't want to be known. I mean, there's a

18:58 Speaker 2: particular guy in uh New York primarily very big, very big,

19:05 Speaker 2: very successful, very very strong, very political, although he's not

19:10 Speaker 2: a politician. He'd give anything to be secretary of State.

19:14 Speaker 2: But if they ask him, no, I don't think I

19:16 Speaker 2: would do it. But in the meantime, begging for it, okay,

19:20 Speaker 2: begging they all everybody. Look, everybody wants it. And by

19:24 Speaker 2: the way, no matter what you do, every but it's

19:27 Speaker 2: very dangerous to pick somebody outside of a politician because

19:30 Speaker 2: a politician has been basically vetted for years. You pick

19:33 Speaker 2: a business guy and they've never been vetted at all,

19:36 Speaker 2: and they're you know, the head of a big company

19:38 Speaker 2: or something, but they've never been vetted. You know nothing

19:41 Speaker 2: about his personal life, you know nothing about where he's been.

19:44 Speaker 2: When you put him in. It's a little bit dangerous

19:46 Speaker 2: because all of a sudden they get checked up and

19:49 Speaker 2: you hear things that you say, Wow, this is not

19:51 Speaker 2: going to work out too well. So it's very dangerous.

19:53 Speaker 2: Picking people that are outside of politics is somewhat dangerous.

19:58 Speaker 3: So you're kind of stuck in a position, and we

20:00 Speaker 3: have to pick established people. And then the problem with

20:02 Speaker 3: established people is established people already indoctrinated into the system.

20:06 Speaker 2: And there's stiffs. In many cases, the survivors I find

20:11 Speaker 2: that you know.

20:12 Speaker 3: What do you mean by steps when you say stiff.

20:14 Speaker 2: Stiff, they don't have nothing. They have nothing, or they're

20:18 Speaker 2: smart and survival one little thing. So there was a

20:21 Speaker 2: congressman years before I read, and I was very close

20:25 Speaker 2: to him, and I needed a license on something, and

20:27 Speaker 2: he was very important in getting the license. But it

20:30 Speaker 2: was a little bit controversial the license that this particular

20:33 Speaker 2: thing that was being licensed. But I was close to

20:36 Speaker 2: this guy and helped him and everything else. And I

20:39 Speaker 2: went to him, I said, I'd like to have your help,

20:41 Speaker 2: and he said, let me take a look at it.

20:45 Speaker 2: I said, oh, that's not too good, but I really

20:48 Speaker 2: hope you're gonna have it. Anyway, he tapped me along

20:50 Speaker 2: for a long period of time and ultimately didn't do it.

20:53 Speaker 2: And I said, you are a stiff. You could have

20:55 Speaker 2: done this thing so easy, et cetera. But it was controversial.

20:58 Speaker 2: He was in Congress from me years, like twenty eight years.

21:01 Speaker 2: And you know there's a reason when somebody's there for

21:03 Speaker 2: twenty eight years, you got to be sort of smart, right,

21:06 Speaker 2: you know, you have a sur scandals. And I realized

21:08 Speaker 2: he was a survivor.

21:10 Speaker 3: And so they never do anything controversial. They never take

21:13 Speaker 3: any chances or speak their opinion. That's outside of it.

21:16 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and yet I don't disrespect him for it.

21:19 Speaker 2: So I actually respected the guy more in a certain way.

21:22 Speaker 2: You know what, he's been there like for twenty eight years,

21:26 Speaker 2: and he made it through. A lot of people don't

21:28 Speaker 2: make it through.

21:29 Speaker 3: It's a good way for non exceptional people to survive it.

21:31 Speaker 2: Well, it is, I mean it certainly is.

21:34 Speaker 3: So you're you're in there, you have ten thousand appointments

21:37 Speaker 3: you have to make, like, so you're getting advice from people,

21:40 Speaker 3: and at one point in time, did you have a

21:42 Speaker 3: moment in time where you realize, like, these are bad choices,

21:46 Speaker 3: like some of these people I shouldn't have had in there.

21:48 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think so. The one question that you'll

21:51 Speaker 2: ask me that I think you'll ask me that people

21:54 Speaker 2: seem to ask, and I always come up with the

21:56 Speaker 2: same answer, if the one because I had a lot

22:01 Speaker 2: of success, great economy, great, everything, everything was great. The military,

22:06 Speaker 2: we rebuilt it, biggest tax cuts in history, all the

22:09 Speaker 2: stuff we did. We had a great presidency. Uh, three

22:12 Speaker 2: Supreme Court justices. Most people get none. You know, you

22:15 Speaker 2: pick them young. This way, they're there for fifty years, right,

22:19 Speaker 2: so you know, even if a president is there for

22:21 Speaker 2: eight years. Oftentimes they never have a chance. I had three.

22:24 Speaker 2: It was sort of the luck of the draw. But

22:27 Speaker 2: I will say that it always comes back to the

22:30 Speaker 2: same answer. The biggest mistake I made was I picked

22:34 Speaker 2: some people. I picked some great people, you know, but

22:37 Speaker 2: you don't think about that. I picked some people that

22:40 Speaker 2: I shouldn't have picked. I picked a few people that

22:44 Speaker 2: I shouldn't have picked. And neo cons, Yeah, neocons or

22:48 Speaker 2: bad people or disloyal people, or people that were just

22:52 Speaker 2: people that were into these people. Yeah, I mean, look,

22:55 Speaker 2: I mean you're reading about them a little bit today.

22:58 Speaker 2: A guy like Kelly, who was a bully, a bully

23:00 Speaker 2: but a weak person. You know, you know more about

23:03 Speaker 2: bullies than anybody probably around because you deal in a

23:05 Speaker 2: certain sport where the bullies are exposed very quickly. But

23:09 Speaker 2: you know, uh, he's bad. Bolton was an idiot, but

23:13 Speaker 2: he was great for me because I'd go in with

23:16 Speaker 2: a guy like a John Bolton. You know John Bolton.

23:18 Speaker 2: A friend of mine called called me up. I was

23:20 Speaker 2: picking Bolton. He's a very smart guy. His name is

23:23 Speaker 2: Phil Ruffin. He's a very rich guy from Las Vegas,

23:26 Speaker 2: one of the He's a great card player, he doesn't

23:29 Speaker 2: play cards, but he's a great you know, he's just

23:30 Speaker 2: a natural. He got poker sense, right, you know, the

23:34 Speaker 2: good old poker sense. And Phil Rouffin is very, very

23:38 Speaker 2: wise kind of a guy and very one of the

23:41 Speaker 2: richest people around and has got great success and understands people.

23:46 Speaker 2: So it was in that I was picking Bolton or

23:50 Speaker 2: I picked Bolton. He called up, he said, don't pick him.

23:52 Speaker 2: Why he's a bad guy. Now he wasn't in politics

23:56 Speaker 2: at all, He's in various businesses. He said, he's a

24:00 Speaker 2: bad guy. He's just it always works out bad with

24:04 Speaker 2: that guy. I said, oh, I wish you told me

24:07 Speaker 2: this two weeks I already hired him. You know, he's

24:09 Speaker 2: here and and he was right, but he was good

24:14 Speaker 2: in a certain way. He's a nut job. And every

24:17 Speaker 2: time I had to deal with a country, when they

24:20 Speaker 2: saw this whack job standing behind me, they said, oh, man,

24:25 Speaker 2: Trump's going to go to war with us. He was

24:27 Speaker 2: with Bush when they went stupidly into the Middle East.

24:30 Speaker 2: They should have never done it. I used to say

24:31 Speaker 2: it as a civilian, so I always got more publicity

24:35 Speaker 2: than other people, and I didn't. It wasn't like I

24:38 Speaker 2: was trying in fact, I don't know exactly why. Maybe

24:41 Speaker 2: you can tell me why.

24:42 Speaker 3: I could definitely tell you you said a lot of

24:44 Speaker 3: wild shit. Maybe maybe he said a lot of wild shit.

24:48 Speaker 3: And then CNN in there all they're brilliance by highlighting

24:52 Speaker 3: your wild shit made you much more popular. Yeah, and

24:55 Speaker 3: they boost you in the polls because people were tired

24:58 Speaker 3: of someone talking in in this bullshit, pre prepared politician lingo.

25:04 Speaker 3: And even if they didn't agree with you, they at

25:06 Speaker 3: least knew whoever that guy is, that's him, that's really him.

25:10 Speaker 3: When you see certain people talk, certain people in the

25:12 Speaker 3: public eye, you don't know who they are. You have

25:15 Speaker 3: no idea who they are. It's very difficult to know.

25:18 Speaker 3: You see them in conversations. They have these pre planned answers.

25:21 Speaker 3: They say everything. It's very rehearsed. You never get to

25:24 Speaker 3: the meat of it. One of the beautiful things about

25:27 Speaker 3: you is that you free ball like you get out

25:30 Speaker 3: and you do these huge events and you're just talking

25:33 Speaker 3: and you're making We've highlighted you on the show many

25:35 Speaker 3: times when you did this Biden impression where he's walking

25:37 Speaker 3: around he doesn't know what he's doing. It's funny, it's

25:39 Speaker 3: stand up. It's funny stuff, but it's like you and

25:43 Speaker 3: you're making fun of Elon one time, you're doing it

25:45 Speaker 3: in Elon impression. It's great. You have like comedic instincts,

25:49 Speaker 3: like when you said to Hillary you'd be in jail,

25:51 Speaker 3: Like that's great timing. But it's like that kind of

25:55 Speaker 3: stuff was unheard of as a politician, Like no one

25:58 Speaker 3: had done that, And I think it's funny.

26:01 Speaker 2: You need at least the attitude of a comedian when

26:05 Speaker 2: you're doing this business. This is a very dangerous business. First,

26:08 Speaker 2: so it's a very tough business.

26:09 Speaker 3: When it's the most dangerous, Well for a job, yes,

26:13 Speaker 3: I mean other than going for war and being a

26:15 Speaker 3: firefighter or being a cop. It's the most dangerous, the most.

26:20 Speaker 2: Being president is the most dangerous, especially you.

26:22 Speaker 3: I mean when you haven't even got to the election.

26:25 Speaker 3: There's been two assassination attempts and they've brushed those out

26:29 Speaker 3: of the news like it was nothing talk about them.

26:32 Speaker 3: Imagine if there was an assassination attempts on Biden, how

26:35 Speaker 3: hard people would be attacking the right, How they would

26:38 Speaker 3: be trying to get guns taken away from people. They

26:40 Speaker 3: would try to ramp up gun laws, they would try

26:43 Speaker 3: to figure out some way to blame you. If there

26:45 Speaker 3: was a tax on, if Biden got shot in the ear,

26:47 Speaker 3: we would have never heard the end of it.

26:49 Speaker 2: But I think he's in good shape because it's only

26:51 Speaker 2: consequential presidents. If you take a look at what's happened. Look,

26:56 Speaker 2: I'm for having countries pay as billions and billions and trillions,

27:01 Speaker 2: even dollars. I took in hundreds of billions of dollars

27:03 Speaker 2: from China. Nobody took in ten cents, not one other president.

27:06 Speaker 2: I do things that make it. I mean that don't

27:10 Speaker 2: necessarily make me so popular. I just do what's right.

27:13 Speaker 2: And when you do that, you know you're more. Look at.

27:16 Speaker 2: Around Iran, we would have never had the attack on

27:18 Speaker 2: Israel at all. Iran was broke. I told China, if

27:22 Speaker 2: you buy you can't do business in the United States

27:24 Speaker 2: under any circle. I was going to We're going to

27:26 Speaker 2: go cold Turkey with China. Some people think that would

27:29 Speaker 2: have been a good idea anyway, But if you buy

27:31 Speaker 2: any one barrel of oil from them, you're not doing business.

27:34 Speaker 2: I said that to many countries. Iran was broke. They

27:37 Speaker 2: had no money for Hesbola, they had no money for

27:40 Speaker 2: hamas they had no one. But I make myself, you know,

27:44 Speaker 2: I mean I understand what I'm doing. You make yourself

27:48 Speaker 2: a target. And it's a very dangerous business. But if

27:51 Speaker 2: you just look at statistically, so I said, I sat think,

27:56 Speaker 2: I don't know if it's right, but one tenth of

27:57 Speaker 2: one percent for a race car drive yere, it's pretty

28:00 Speaker 2: agers business, right, yeah, one tenth of one percent for

28:04 Speaker 2: a bull rider.

28:05 Speaker 3: I tell you to me, I talk to death.

28:06 Speaker 2: These guys that ride the bulls is worse than UFC. Yeah,

28:09 Speaker 2: these guys that you see these big monster bulls and

28:12 Speaker 2: you see it in slow motion where the foot is like,

28:16 Speaker 2: you know, an inch away from the head if it

28:18 Speaker 2: hits them of the guy's gun. But they die, you know,

28:19 Speaker 2: they die.

28:20 Speaker 3: So one tenth of one percent die.

28:22 Speaker 2: Yeah, one tenth of one percent die. And they certainly

28:25 Speaker 2: get hurt badly. Really, I mean, they can't walk after

28:27 Speaker 2: a certain period of time. But but with the president,

28:31 Speaker 2: if you look at and attempts too and attemps, no,

28:36 Speaker 2: it's a very dangerous position. I never thought of that,

28:38 Speaker 2: by the way, when I did it, you know you

28:40 Speaker 2: don't you don't tend to I.

28:42 Speaker 3: Just assume because if they look you on the Apprentice,

28:44 Speaker 3: they were going to love you as well.

28:45 Speaker 2: It would be so easy. You know, it.

28:47 Speaker 3: Probably would have been if the media didn't attack you

28:50 Speaker 3: the way they did, if they didn't conflate you with Hitler.

28:53 Speaker 3: I mean even today, like Kamla was talking about you

28:56 Speaker 3: and Hitler. You're they're going to take what you said

28:58 Speaker 3: about Robert E. Lee. Oh, Donald Trump just the South one, Yeah,

29:02 Speaker 3: he loves They love to take things out of context

29:05 Speaker 3: and distort things, but.

29:07 Speaker 2: They don't even have to take them out. They make

29:09 Speaker 2: them up entirely. Okay, that too, But you know it's

29:11 Speaker 2: interesting when you mentioned the I was very popular and

29:16 Speaker 2: and all those people love me. I mean, it's uh,

29:19 Speaker 2: some of these these women, they're so they're so stupid

29:24 Speaker 2: and joy She would every time she'd see me, like

29:27 Speaker 2: I'd be in the theater or something, and she's you

29:30 Speaker 2: have to be on the show again. Come on, come on,

29:32 Speaker 2: let's go.

29:32 Speaker 3: We actually loved you love me that episode. People should

29:36 Speaker 3: watch that episode just to see what we're talking about.

29:38 Speaker 3: Like I said, we don't want to get a copyright strike,

29:40 Speaker 3: so we're not going to put it up. But if

29:41 Speaker 3: you watch the episode, it's bananas. It's like an alternative universe,

29:45 Speaker 3: and it's only but years ago. Whoop, be loved, loved

29:49 Speaker 3: you gives you a hugging a kiss, And how.

29:50 Speaker 2: About that other one, the new one on the the

29:53 Speaker 2: one from my administration. She writes me a letter, You're

29:56 Speaker 2: the greatest president. She leaves. You know, she worked as

29:59 Speaker 2: a like an assistant press secretary. I hardly knew her,

30:03 Speaker 2: but she leaves, and she writes me this gorgeous letter.

30:06 Speaker 2: What's their name she was, I don't even know, you know, anyway,

30:10 Speaker 2: she was in the administration. She's on now currently sits

30:13 Speaker 2: on the far right hand side, whatever the hell of

30:15 Speaker 2: the name is. And she writes a letter, the most

30:18 Speaker 2: beautiful letter. She's quoted in the paper. He's a consequential,

30:22 Speaker 2: he was the greatest president. Blah bah bah. Then all

30:24 Speaker 2: of a sudden she goes into view. She sat hitting

30:26 Speaker 2: the hell of me because they won't hire unless. I've

30:29 Speaker 2: had many people go in CNN and they call and said,

30:31 Speaker 2: I don't know what to do what They want to

30:33 Speaker 2: pay me a lot, but I have to be negative,

30:35 Speaker 2: and you, I said, be negative. That's okay. There are

30:37 Speaker 2: guys on like CNN. They won't hire them. Sean Duffy

30:42 Speaker 2: is a congressman and he retired. He got a good

30:45 Speaker 2: job with CNN, but he was only positive about Trump,

30:48 Speaker 2: so they kept him, but they would never put him on.

30:52 Speaker 2: I mean, I respect what he did, he could have gotten,

30:54 Speaker 2: you know, negative, I tell people, go negative, Let my

30:57 Speaker 2: friends make the money. Well, it's so crooked, the press,

31:00 Speaker 2: it is so crooked.

31:01 Speaker 3: It's crooked. But it's also they're diminishing themselves. They they are,

31:05 Speaker 3: they're killing all their credibility, and it's opening up the

31:08 Speaker 3: credibility to new media. It's opened up the credibility to

31:10 Speaker 3: independent media.

31:11 Speaker 2: All these the worst I've ever seen the and I've

31:14 Speaker 2: seen the worst. I mean I've been a part of it.

31:16 Speaker 2: I've been I've seen the worst. Kamala goes on. Sixty

31:19 Speaker 2: minutes gave an answer that a child wouldn't give. It

31:23 Speaker 2: was so bad. And sixty minutes took the answer out.

31:28 Speaker 2: They took the whole and they put another answer in,

31:32 Speaker 2: which didn't make sense either, but it was better. They

31:35 Speaker 2: took the Well, it wasn't editing, it was fraud. This

31:38 Speaker 2: was not editing. You know. Editing is where I'll give

31:40 Speaker 2: an answer and they'll take a couple of words and

31:42 Speaker 2: change around, or they might even take a sentence or

31:44 Speaker 2: two off, which is very bad. But that's it's sort

31:47 Speaker 2: of bad. You know. I'd give an answer which was

31:49 Speaker 2: a very good answer. I always talking about, you know,

31:52 Speaker 2: I like to give long the weave, you know.

31:54 Speaker 3: I like to Yeah, you like to weave things out.

31:56 Speaker 2: But when you do the weaves, and you have to

31:58 Speaker 2: be very smart to do with when you do the weave.

32:00 Speaker 2: Look at this, just in this one thing. We're talking

32:02 Speaker 2: about little pieces.

32:04 Speaker 3: But it always ends out home.

32:05 Speaker 2: No, no, it comes back home for the right paper,

32:07 Speaker 2: for the wrong people. It doesn't come back home when

32:09 Speaker 2: they end up in the wilderness. Right. But they can

32:13 Speaker 2: take my answer, and you know what, they may take

32:15 Speaker 2: a little piece of it out or so and they

32:17 Speaker 2: use the term, yes, we want to save time. Well

32:20 Speaker 2: it's not. But I've never heard. I think it's the

32:23 Speaker 2: biggest scandal in broadcast history. What happened to see CBS?

32:27 Speaker 2: So you have CBS sixty minutes. It's a news program,

32:30 Speaker 2: it's not an entertainment program. It's under their news, it's

32:33 Speaker 2: the head of their news thing. She gives an answer

32:36 Speaker 2: that was that shows that she's essentially incompetent, and they

32:40 Speaker 2: took the answer, could you imagine them doing nothing?

32:43 Speaker 3: We can show it if you want people to see it,

32:45 Speaker 3: can we show it. No, we'll get in trouble, we'll

32:47 Speaker 3: get copyright strike. Okay, but it's it's drastic. But what

32:53 Speaker 3: was interesting was the other full version was available. Initially

32:58 Speaker 3: it was like a preview.

33:00 Speaker 2: Somebody made a big mistake.

33:01 Speaker 3: Somebody put that preview out.

33:02 Speaker 2: Some kn't put the preview out, and then the bosses

33:04 Speaker 2: did this or that, and then all of a sudden

33:06 Speaker 2: they said, we got a problem exactly, and then they

33:09 Speaker 2: got caught by mistake. Well, but don't you think that's

33:12 Speaker 2: a bit to me, And don't forget this is election

33:15 Speaker 2: interference and fraud and it's sixty minutes. It's their news division,

33:20 Speaker 2: So they a big deal. They give those licenses out,

33:24 Speaker 2: Joe for free. They should pay fortune. They're worth a fortune.

33:27 Speaker 2: They give them out for free because they're using the

33:30 Speaker 2: public airwaves. With cable, you don't have that. Cable's different,

33:34 Speaker 2: but you know, it's just a different deal. But with

33:37 Speaker 2: the networks, they give those license they're worth billions of dollars.

33:42 Speaker 2: They give them out free, but you have to be

33:43 Speaker 2: honest and all that was bad. I think that David

33:46 Speaker 2: Muir and that woman that was a site. I never

33:48 Speaker 2: even heard of her, but they kept interrupting me. It

33:51 Speaker 2: was like, I said, how many people am I debating here?

33:53 Speaker 2: I got this one and I got you two, but

33:56 Speaker 2: he went after me eleven different times. You know, It's interesting.

33:59 Speaker 2: I always thought he was a nice guy, but he's

34:01 Speaker 2: just like the rest of him.

34:02 Speaker 3: You know, Well, that's his job, unfortunately, and I'm sure

34:06 Speaker 3: what they want. You're right, Well, the problem was they

34:09 Speaker 3: fact checked you and they didn't fact check her. And

34:11 Speaker 3: one of the most egregious examples of that was when

34:14 Speaker 3: she said that there is there are no troops right

34:17 Speaker 3: now deployed in war zones. There's a very famous viral

34:21 Speaker 3: video that went online of troops in a war zone saying, well,

34:24 Speaker 3: what the fuck are we then? Because there's thousands of them.

34:28 Speaker 3: Dan Crenshaw, the congressman, posted on his Instagram all of

34:33 Speaker 3: the various examples of troops that are deployed, thousands and

34:38 Speaker 3: thousands of troops that are currently deployed.

34:40 Speaker 2: Stupid.

34:41 Speaker 3: But the point is, if this is going to be

34:43 Speaker 3: an actual, real debate and not a propaganda exercise, if

34:46 Speaker 3: it's going to be a real debate, you have to

34:47 Speaker 3: fact check everybody, Like if somebody says she thought there

34:51 Speaker 3: was no which is also a problem. So it's one

34:53 Speaker 3: of two things. It's either it was not true it

34:57 Speaker 3: was a lie on purpose, which is terrible, or it

35:00 Speaker 3: was the opposite, it was ignorance, which is also terrible.

35:03 Speaker 2: Well, Joe, when I said crime is sharing, he said, no,

35:06 Speaker 2: no crime has gone down. I said, when did you

35:09 Speaker 2: hear that one crime has gone down? I mean, I'm

35:11 Speaker 2: debating with this guy, but I've had that.

35:14 Speaker 3: There was a mended FBI statistics that came out after

35:17 Speaker 3: that that showed the crime had gone up substantial.

35:19 Speaker 2: And by the way, the statistics were a fraud because

35:21 Speaker 2: when they put out the statistics, they didn't include some

35:24 Speaker 2: of the worst places. They didn't include some of the

35:26 Speaker 2: worst cities, some of the most deadly places. But when

35:29 Speaker 2: the realtors came out, I turned out to be right, But.

35:32 Speaker 3: You turn out to be right. But then there's another problem.

35:34 Speaker 3: Unreported crime is way up because people have lost the

35:38 Speaker 3: morale that the police department has in a lot of

35:40 Speaker 3: these cities where they've done this defund the police bullshit.

35:43 Speaker 3: These the moralities pore cops. It's fucking horrible. It's the

35:46 Speaker 3: dumbest idea of all time. But what they've done is

35:49 Speaker 3: they've made these cops feel terrible. Like good cops. I

35:53 Speaker 3: think cops are just like everybody else. Most of them

35:55 Speaker 3: are great. It's like everybody else. But if you run

35:57 Speaker 3: into one carpenter and he does a shitty job in

35:59 Speaker 3: your house, he say, carpenters fucking suck. But they don't suck.

36:03 Speaker 3: Most of them are great, And let you keep it

36:05 Speaker 3: with cops. But the point is, like they did all

36:08 Speaker 3: of these things in this very foolish way, and these

36:12 Speaker 3: cops are suffering the consequences of it. And so subsequently

36:15 Speaker 3: what happens is a lot of crime is unreported. A

36:18 Speaker 3: lot of crime, like you call the cops, they're too busy,

36:21 Speaker 3: they can't even get to you. Or your house got

36:22 Speaker 3: broken into, sorry, you know, it doesn't even make a report.

36:26 Speaker 3: There's a lot of people that they just give up.

36:28 Speaker 2: It's so sad. What's happened? And I'll tell you what.

36:32 Speaker 2: I go to police funerals, and we went to one

36:36 Speaker 2: in Long Island. I visited the family in the Long Island,

36:38 Speaker 2: A very big deal it's so dangerous. People don't use

36:43 Speaker 2: the car dark windows. Pull over, he's a gentleman, Please

36:48 Speaker 2: pull over. Door opens, guy comes out firing. Even if

36:52 Speaker 2: they were allowed to pull out their gun, which they're not,

36:54 Speaker 2: they can't you know, put.

36:55 Speaker 3: You in time.

36:56 Speaker 2: They still wouldn't have times every cops first nightmare, they

36:59 Speaker 2: open the door and he was killed and his partner

37:03 Speaker 2: was hurt. He was killed and you don't have I mean,

37:06 Speaker 2: you don't even have an eighth of a second to think.

37:09 Speaker 2: And it is such a dangerous job that in particular,

37:13 Speaker 2: think of it. You go up to a car, you

37:14 Speaker 2: don't know who's sitting there with a gun, and if

37:16 Speaker 2: they have a gun, you really don't have a chance.

37:18 Speaker 2: You're not allowed to have your gun out, by the way,

37:20 Speaker 2: you have. They're very strict rules, so number one there.

37:23 Speaker 2: But even if you could have your gun out, the

37:26 Speaker 2: door opens in the gun and bullets start firing out,

37:29 Speaker 2: you know, and especially where they have the dark windows,

37:31 Speaker 2: where they have the darkened windows. It is such a

37:34 Speaker 2: dangerous profession and it's very hard to get cops now

37:38 Speaker 2: because they're not given any backup. And you're right, you

37:43 Speaker 2: can you know, they have like an eighth of a

37:44 Speaker 2: second to make a decision that's going to change their life.

37:47 Speaker 2: If they make the wrong decision, they're gonna end up

37:49 Speaker 2: on the front page of every newspaper in the country,

37:53 Speaker 2: and they're going to lose their house and their pension

37:55 Speaker 2: and their their job, and their wife is going to

37:57 Speaker 2: be gone, and everything's going to be gone.

37:59 Speaker 3: And there's nothing that people don't talk about. How many

38:01 Speaker 3: of them have PTSD probably most of them. These guys

38:04 Speaker 3: are seeing people shot all the time. You know, I've

38:07 Speaker 3: talked to a ton of cops about it, and you know,

38:09 Speaker 3: a lot of cops commit suicide. A lot of cops

38:11 Speaker 3: are deeply depressed.

38:13 Speaker 2: A lot. We have to give them back the dignity.

38:15 Speaker 2: We have to. We can't. We just have to give

38:18 Speaker 2: them back. You said it's so good. You never hear

38:21 Speaker 2: anybody say that. You're never gonna have it perfect. You're

38:24 Speaker 2: gonna have a bad.

38:24 Speaker 3: Apple in everything, in every profession.

38:26 Speaker 2: But every time there's a bad apple, that gets massive

38:29 Speaker 2: publicity and it taints everybody.

38:31 Speaker 3: But it's also this very irresponsible thing where people say,

38:34 Speaker 3: defund the police, get rid of the police. You know,

38:36 Speaker 3: even Kamala Harris was a part of that. It's a.

38:39 Speaker 3: It's a very stupid way to look at it. We

38:40 Speaker 3: should do is fund the police. You should have better training,

38:43 Speaker 3: You should have cops that feel more appreciated you do.

38:46 Speaker 3: You should have some something that helps mitigate this PTSD

38:49 Speaker 3: that all of them suffer through.

38:51 Speaker 2: She was a big part of defund the police. That

38:54 Speaker 2: was a big thing for her. Defund the police. Always

38:56 Speaker 2: defund the police.

38:57 Speaker 3: It's a political idea, But.

38:59 Speaker 2: Any anybody with that political thought, I don't think she'd

39:02 Speaker 2: be running for president. And I think people are getting

39:05 Speaker 2: wise to it. You know, we're doing pretty well now.

39:07 Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe in a week from now say

39:09 Speaker 2: sorry about that. I was wrong, But we're leading everything

39:13 Speaker 2: and I think we're going to have a very good election.

39:15 Speaker 2: But I tell you because people are starting to get

39:18 Speaker 2: to know her. But she was defund the police. She

39:21 Speaker 2: was all these transgender operations. You know, if you wanted

39:24 Speaker 2: a sex change and you were in detention and you

39:27 Speaker 2: demanded a sex change, they would give you a sex change.

39:30 Speaker 3: Well, the wildest one is this idea of giving free

39:33 Speaker 3: sex change to illegal immigrants.

39:35 Speaker 2: That's right in detention.

39:38 Speaker 3: That is the wildest. But she is that the biggest

39:41 Speaker 3: problem you have, You just walked here for Guatemala, you

39:43 Speaker 3: need to become a girl.

39:44 Speaker 2: But she was in favor of it, so think of it. Now.

39:47 Speaker 2: She changed, she changed fifteen policies. In fact, I'm going

39:51 Speaker 2: to send her a maga ap.

39:52 Speaker 3: She tole your idea about no tax for tips.

39:56 Speaker 2: I came up with this idea, but honestly, nobody ever

39:59 Speaker 2: heard of And now it took her two months. But

40:02 Speaker 2: you know what, all of a sudden, it well, it

40:03 Speaker 2: caught fire and she just put it into a little speech. Yeah. Well,

40:07 Speaker 2: but I think we have I think we still have

40:08 Speaker 2: that issue. I think that issue is a good one

40:10 Speaker 2: for us. But now we have a lot of good issues.

40:13 Speaker 2: You know we had the other day. I think of

40:14 Speaker 2: how simple some of these things are. We're trying to

40:16 Speaker 2: get cars built in the United States. Detroit has been

40:19 Speaker 2: really tough. It's been a disaster. They have a huge factor,

40:23 Speaker 2: a huge car auto plant being built by China in Mexico,

40:26 Speaker 2: make cars, sell them in the United States. Put everybody

40:28 Speaker 2: out of business. Right here we go again. I said,

40:31 Speaker 2: if that plant is there when I'm president, I will

40:33 Speaker 2: put one hundred or two hundred percent tariffs on every car.

40:37 Speaker 2: They'll be unsaleable in the United States. And they just

40:41 Speaker 2: announced they're not going to build the plan because they

40:43 Speaker 2: think I'm going to think of it. They're not going

40:44 Speaker 2: to build the plant. This was the biggest plant in

40:47 Speaker 2: the world. It would have more than all of Michigan makes.

40:51 Speaker 2: That's how big you know. This is what we're getting to.

40:55 Speaker 2: And I said, if that plan goes up, I want

40:58 Speaker 2: them to understand, if I win, I'm going to tax

41:00 Speaker 2: those cars at the rate of one hundred or two

41:03 Speaker 2: hundred percent apiece so that you won't be able to

41:05 Speaker 2: sell them in the United States. They just announce they're

41:07 Speaker 2: not going to build a plant. Yeah, I did a

41:09 Speaker 2: big favor for our country by doing that, and I'm

41:13 Speaker 2: not even there yet. To me, the most beautiful word,

41:17 Speaker 2: and I've said this for the last couple of weeks

41:19 Speaker 2: in the dictionary today, is the word tariff. It's more

41:24 Speaker 2: beautiful than love. It's more beautiful than It's the most

41:28 Speaker 2: beautiful word. This country can become rich with the use

41:33 Speaker 2: the proper use of tariffs. It'll Can you.

41:36 Speaker 3: Just float out the idea of getting rid of income

41:39 Speaker 3: taxes and replacing it with tariffs, Well, okay, we're serious

41:42 Speaker 3: about that.

41:43 Speaker 2: Our yeah, sure, but why not because we ready our

41:46 Speaker 2: country was the richest in the relatively in the eighteen

41:50 Speaker 2: eighties and eighteen nineties, a president who was assassinated named McKinley.

41:56 Speaker 2: He was the tariff king. He spoke beautifully of tariffs.

41:59 Speaker 2: Is language was really beautiful. We will not allow the

42:05 Speaker 2: enemy to come in and take our jobs, and take

42:07 Speaker 2: our factories, and take our workers, and take our families

42:11 Speaker 2: unless they pay a big price. And the big price

42:14 Speaker 2: is tariffs. And he'd speak like that, but he was right.

42:18 Speaker 2: And then around in the early nineteen hundreds they switched

42:21 Speaker 2: over stupidly to frankly an income text. And you know why,

42:25 Speaker 2: because countries were putting a lot of pressure in America,

42:27 Speaker 2: we don't want to pay tariffs, please, don't you. You

42:29 Speaker 2: know they believe me. They control our politicians if you

42:33 Speaker 2: look at the kind of numbers that these guys make

42:37 Speaker 2: then and now. But we had a commission meeting in

42:42 Speaker 2: the eight I think it was eighteen eighty seven, think

42:45 Speaker 2: of this problem. We were so rich, we had so

42:49 Speaker 2: much money, we didn't know what to do. So they

42:52 Speaker 2: set up a Blue Ribbon Commission on tariffs. And the

42:56 Speaker 2: sole purpose is what to do with all the money

42:59 Speaker 2: we had. We were so rich because we were taxing

43:02 Speaker 2: other people for coming in and taking our jobs. And

43:07 Speaker 2: China does it. That's what China did. If you want

43:09 Speaker 2: to open a factory and sell cars, if you build

43:12 Speaker 2: a factory here or have a factory, they don't take

43:14 Speaker 2: our cars. They wouldn't take our cars. But if you

43:16 Speaker 2: build a plant in China, you can do that. Elon

43:21 Speaker 2: did that. By the way, Elon is great. That guy

43:24 Speaker 2: is such a great guy. I think you're a fan

43:26 Speaker 2: of Elan. He is from a different planet. He's the

43:29 Speaker 2: greatest guy. That rocket coming in I told I told

43:34 Speaker 2: the story once or twice, so you may have heard it,

43:37 Speaker 2: because these speeches have been good. Did you see the

43:39 Speaker 2: one last night, Yeah, twenty nine thousand people, And the

43:42 Speaker 2: one the night before was the same thing. We are.

43:45 Speaker 2: We are rocket and rolling. But Elon, and I'm talking

43:49 Speaker 2: to this very important guy. I said, wait a minute,

43:52 Speaker 2: I'm looking at something that television's are muted, right, And

43:55 Speaker 2: I see this rocket so brown from the heat, you know,

44:00 Speaker 2: thousand degrees pouring down at thousands of miles an hour.

44:03 Speaker 2: And I see this thing, you know, it's like a

44:05 Speaker 2: twenty story building, and I say to this guy's an

44:08 Speaker 2: important guy. Wait a minute, let me just put you

44:11 Speaker 2: to hold it. I got to see this, and I

44:14 Speaker 2: see this and it's going to crash. I said, it's

44:16 Speaker 2: going to crash into the gantry. They call it a gantry.

44:19 Speaker 2: I said, oh, man, that's going to be a disaster

44:21 Speaker 2: because it's starting to get very close. And then all

44:23 Speaker 2: of a sudden, you see the flames in a bottle,

44:25 Speaker 2: rear in it, boom, and then you see the two

44:27 Speaker 2: arms grab it crazy and I forgot the guy I

44:30 Speaker 2: had him on the front. I forgot no. I said no.

44:34 Speaker 2: I called Elon. I said, was that you? He said

44:36 Speaker 2: that was me? And I said, who else can do that?

44:39 Speaker 2: He said nobody. Russia can't do it, the United States,

44:41 Speaker 2: nobody can do it. You know. I set up Space Force.

44:44 Speaker 2: That was me. And that's the first time in eighty

44:46 Speaker 2: two years that we opened another branch since the Air Force,

44:50 Speaker 2: and that's going to be one of our most important things.

44:52 Speaker 2: But think of what Eland does. And he did one

44:55 Speaker 2: other thing that I never heard of. It it's starlink.

45:00 Speaker 2: I went down to North Carolina, Georgia, the different places right.

45:03 Speaker 2: I followed it right down and they had no communication.

45:07 Speaker 2: The polls were all knocked down. Every and one of

45:10 Speaker 2: the guys in North Carolina said, could you do me

45:13 Speaker 2: a favorite? Do you know Elon Muskis. He endorsed me,

45:16 Speaker 2: by the way. He gave me the nicest endorsement too,

45:18 Speaker 2: the tougher. He said, the country's going to fail. You

45:21 Speaker 2: should do the same thing, Joe, because you cannot be

45:24 Speaker 2: voting for Kamala Kamala. You're not a Kamala person. I

45:27 Speaker 2: know you. I've watched you. I know him better than

45:30 Speaker 2: he is. You know what, without speaking to you, I

45:32 Speaker 2: think I know you, maybe almost as well as your wife.

45:35 Speaker 2: I have watched you for so many years. You're not

45:37 Speaker 2: a Kamala person. You're a Kabibe person, but you're not

45:41 Speaker 2: a Commala person. Nobody's going to know who Kebibe is.

45:44 Speaker 2: But he was, he was not He was not bad,

45:47 Speaker 2: right that guy.

45:48 Speaker 3: He was phenomenal. But that's your kind of was getting wide.

45:51 Speaker 3: No way but to tariff.

45:53 Speaker 2: But but one said, before we finished with tariffs, I

45:56 Speaker 2: just so. They said, they said, could you get him?

45:59 Speaker 2: We need start link and I call Elon. He got

46:02 Speaker 2: it for him so fast, saved so many lives. And

46:04 Speaker 2: I said, how was it. They said, better than the wires.

46:07 Speaker 2: You know, they couldn't put them in. They were all

46:09 Speaker 2: they were all gone.

46:10 Speaker 3: So I used it recently in Utah in the mountains.

46:13 Speaker 2: Did you find it good?

46:13 Speaker 3: Oh, it's phenomenal. It's the size of a like a

46:16 Speaker 3: iPad and you just set it down on the ground

46:18 Speaker 3: you get high speed Internet. It's incredible.

46:19 Speaker 2: We're spending just to show you, we're spending a trillion

46:23 Speaker 2: dollars to get cables all over the country, right up

46:27 Speaker 2: to upstate areas where you have like two farms, and

46:31 Speaker 2: they're spending millions of dollars.

46:32 Speaker 3: That we talk about the Elon can do a million

46:35 Speaker 3: dollars that was wasted on this Internet access program that

46:39 Speaker 3: they didn't get anybody.

46:40 Speaker 2: They haven't hooked up one person.

46:43 Speaker 3: One person. They spend forty two billion dollars. They could

46:45 Speaker 3: have gotten star links to everybody with that kind of money.

46:48 Speaker 2: For almost nothing for a monthly charge.

46:51 Speaker 3: It would have been incredible. And he want the Internet

46:53 Speaker 3: everywhere you want to go, and he wanted to do that,

46:55 Speaker 3: and he wanted to do it.

46:56 Speaker 2: How about this, They built, uh, the charger stations right

47:00 Speaker 2: in the midwest, Midwest, they built eight of them because

47:04 Speaker 2: nine billion dollars. That's like a gas pump, right, They

47:08 Speaker 2: built nine gas pumps, except electricity comes out. They spent

47:12 Speaker 2: nine billion dollars. Three of them don't work. The whole thing.

47:16 Speaker 2: There's so much waste. I could I could sit here

47:18 Speaker 2: and tell you about things that that. There's so much waste,

47:23 Speaker 2: abuse and fraud.

47:24 Speaker 3: Oh there's yeah, I'm sure. I mean, I think everybody's

47:28 Speaker 3: aware of that.

47:28 Speaker 2: Let's get back to Terry.

47:29 Speaker 3: But when you're talking about one of the criticisms of

47:32 Speaker 3: your administration was with tax cuts and with tariffs, you

47:35 Speaker 3: increased the deficit. So was the strategy, What was the

47:40 Speaker 3: strategy behind that? And did you think it was going

47:42 Speaker 3: to increase the deficit by amount?

47:46 Speaker 2: Okay, we were ready to rock it was all you know.

47:49 Speaker 2: I had a bad system, We had horrible tax policy.

47:53 Speaker 2: I made it great with a much lower tax rate.

47:57 Speaker 2: So I took it from almost forty percent down to

47:59 Speaker 2: twenty one one percent. Now I'm bringing it from twenty

48:02 Speaker 2: one down to fifteen. But only if you make your

48:05 Speaker 2: product in the United States, which is great. People called me,

48:09 Speaker 2: they said, what a great idea. Nobody ever heard of

48:11 Speaker 2: that before. I don't care if they make the product

48:13 Speaker 2: in Japan? Why should I give up? So it's a

48:15 Speaker 2: twenty one that at twenty one, in the first year,

48:20 Speaker 2: we took in much more revenue than we did at

48:22 Speaker 2: almost forty. Think of that. It inspired Now we had

48:26 Speaker 2: other things too. We were able to get people to

48:28 Speaker 2: bring back their money. You couldn't bring back your money

48:32 Speaker 2: if you had money in Europe, like Apple. Apple had

48:37 Speaker 2: many billions of dollars outside. They couldn't bring it. There

48:39 Speaker 2: was no way to bring it back in the bureaucracy,

48:43 Speaker 2: the documents, the whole thing, and also the tax was

48:45 Speaker 2: too high. You know, they wanted like half of it

48:47 Speaker 2: or something. Nobody's going to do that. So they leave

48:49 Speaker 2: their money in Japan and they spend their money there.

48:53 Speaker 2: That was part of what I did. The money came

48:55 Speaker 2: pouring back in. Apple took in hundreds of billions of dollars.

48:58 Speaker 2: They brought it back from overseat. They brought it in.

49:00 Speaker 3: So how does the deficit increase?

49:02 Speaker 2: Because so what happened is this, We were ready to

49:05 Speaker 2: rock and roll, and then we had the COVID thing

49:08 Speaker 2: and we had a focus on that. And if we

49:11 Speaker 2: didn't give some businesses a hand, they would have all

49:14 Speaker 2: you would have had a depression like in nineteen twenty nine,

49:17 Speaker 2: but we were ready to start. We were going to

49:19 Speaker 2: we would have very shortly been paying off debt. You know,

49:22 Speaker 2: we have thirty five trillion dollars in debt and I'll

49:26 Speaker 2: never forget it. We were it was talking about from

49:30 Speaker 2: you know, the standpoint of being in office. I'm in

49:32 Speaker 2: the Oval office and I have John McLaughlin and Fabrizio

49:36 Speaker 2: the two very good polsters. Probably I don't know, I

49:38 Speaker 2: would say the two best who knows, but very good polsters.

49:42 Speaker 2: And we're starting to think about running for a second term.

49:46 Speaker 2: And we had the greatest economy in history. Never has

49:51 Speaker 2: there been an economy.

49:52 Speaker 3: And you attribute that to lowering time two things.

49:55 Speaker 2: And also I cut regulations more than anybody else. And

50:00 Speaker 2: I asked many of the businessmen, you know from the

50:02 Speaker 2: big companies, you know, the guys running the big companies.

50:04 Speaker 2: Let's say, so, if you had your choice, you've had

50:06 Speaker 2: it now for a long time, what's more important to

50:09 Speaker 2: you the tax cuts you paid less tax or the

50:13 Speaker 2: regulation cuts. Every one of them said, the regulation cuts

50:16 Speaker 2: meant more. Who would think that, right, because you don't

50:19 Speaker 2: equate it the dollars, but it actually has more dollars.

50:24 Speaker 2: We had it going and then we just had to

50:26 Speaker 2: focus on something else. But they were still you. These

50:30 Speaker 2: two posters were sitting there and they said, Sir, if

50:34 Speaker 2: George Washington came back and Abraham Lincoln was his VP

50:39 Speaker 2: as opposed to Waltz, how bad is he? By the way,

50:43 Speaker 2: But if Abraham Lincoln was his VP, they couldn't beat you.

50:47 Speaker 2: You have and I'll never forget it. The following day,

50:52 Speaker 2: they said, something's happening in China, Sir, could we meet?

50:56 Speaker 2: They said, what's happening? People are dying and it was

51:00 Speaker 2: all around the Wuhan lamp. By the way, there are

51:03 Speaker 2: pictures with little lines their body bags all around the

51:09 Speaker 2: Wuhan lamb. And I always said that from the beginning, Joe.

51:12 Speaker 2: You know they tried to say. First they said it

51:13 Speaker 2: was France, and you know, they blamed everybody, but then

51:16 Speaker 2: they say it was Batster Froom, a cave two thousand

51:18 Speaker 2: miles away. So we got hit with that, and despite that,

51:24 Speaker 2: we had the best economy, and when I gave it over,

51:28 Speaker 2: the stock market was higher than it was pre COVID.

51:30 Speaker 2: I mean, nobody could even believe it, but we saved it,

51:34 Speaker 2: and we were helping businesses they were dying, you know

51:38 Speaker 2: they would.

51:38 Speaker 3: So it's your belief that if you had a second term,

51:42 Speaker 3: given the policies in place, the way the economy was booming,

51:45 Speaker 3: that you would have been able to pay off a

51:47 Speaker 3: lot of the debt.

51:48 Speaker 2: And now we didn't have COVID, we would have been

51:51 Speaker 2: paying off debt and we would have had and don't

51:54 Speaker 2: forget by growth. The word growth is actually more important

51:57 Speaker 2: in a way because you could have the same debt.

51:59 Speaker 2: But if you double your growth, all of a sudden

52:01 Speaker 2: you're under levered. But still we should pay off debt.

52:05 Speaker 2: You know, if you viewed this thirty five trillion dollars

52:09 Speaker 2: right now, it's a lot. But if you look at

52:11 Speaker 2: the asset value, if you looked at it purely as

52:13 Speaker 2: an asset value, we have oil underground, we have water,

52:18 Speaker 2: we have mountains, we have I mean, the assets are

52:21 Speaker 2: so enormous. But regardless of that, we've got thirty five

52:25 Speaker 2: trillion in debt. We should pay it off and we

52:28 Speaker 2: would have started paying off debt and probably even giving

52:31 Speaker 2: further given further tax reductions. I want to get it

52:35 Speaker 2: down to fifteen percent. We're going to do more business.

52:39 Speaker 2: But when you get hit with the COVID, everything stops

52:41 Speaker 2: and you have to keep these businesses alive. The businesses

52:43 Speaker 2: were dying. I mean they were just dying. This whole place,

52:46 Speaker 2: this country is going to die.

52:48 Speaker 3: Are there influences outside of environmental that keep people from

52:53 Speaker 3: wanting to drill for oil and frack and do those

52:56 Speaker 3: sort of things outside of the environmental concerns which are

52:59 Speaker 3: legitimate of course, What are there other influences that maybe

53:04 Speaker 3: over accentuate or over exaggerate these environmental effects. Are people

53:09 Speaker 3: being influenced in a way where they're trying to keep

53:12 Speaker 3: us from producing American oil?

53:14 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, So the environmental is the biggest tool for

53:19 Speaker 2: stopping growth, the biggest tool. The other is regulation. And

53:23 Speaker 2: if you speak to Elon, he said, the regulation now

53:25 Speaker 2: to send a rocket up to anywhere. Even if you

53:28 Speaker 2: do everything, it's it's almost it's becoming impossible. But they

53:34 Speaker 2: use environmental in order to get people not to do anything.

53:40 Speaker 2: And sometimes I say, you know, I look at some

53:43 Speaker 2: of the I know the environmentals have better because I

53:46 Speaker 2: had to build buildings in New York. I had to

53:47 Speaker 2: build I had to do environmental impact studies, and I

53:50 Speaker 2: would see some of these guys that I'd hire for

53:52 Speaker 2: a lot of money, environmentalists that would get you through

53:54 Speaker 2: the process. And they'd be up in Albany, that's the

53:57 Speaker 2: capital of New York, and they're up there trying to

54:00 Speaker 2: make it tougher for guys like me that were builders

54:04 Speaker 2: because they'd get paid more money. In other words, I

54:08 Speaker 2: had one guy highly recommend it all. You know. I

54:12 Speaker 2: was good at getting permits. I was one of the

54:13 Speaker 2: kings of I was always very good. But the environmental

54:17 Speaker 2: stuff was always horrible. They could slow a project down

54:21 Speaker 2: ten years, fifteen years. I had a project in Louisiana

54:24 Speaker 2: built big LNG plant. It was for fourteen years. It

54:29 Speaker 2: was going to cost eighteen million, eighteen billion dollars. One

54:32 Speaker 2: of the biggest thing like the Empire State biler laying

54:34 Speaker 2: down on side times four massive in the coast on

54:38 Speaker 2: the Gulf Coast. And they said, sir, they're going to

54:41 Speaker 2: give it up. I said that they shouldn't give it up.

54:43 Speaker 2: What's the problem. They can't get their environmental They had

54:46 Speaker 2: environmental permits that would fill this whole room up to

54:49 Speaker 2: the ceiling, and they said there was one mistake on

54:52 Speaker 2: one little line. They wanted to do it all over

54:54 Speaker 2: against it is not going to happen. And I got

54:57 Speaker 2: them their permit instantly and they built the plant. It's massive.

55:02 Speaker 3: So when you're saying that there's people that are making

55:06 Speaker 3: money by making it difficult lawyers.

55:09 Speaker 2: I'm talking about environmental process and environmental consultants profit off

55:15 Speaker 2: of dragging out the process and they and I probably

55:20 Speaker 2: do the same thing about with them. To be honest

55:22 Speaker 2: with you, I want to be honest with you.

55:23 Speaker 3: How do they do that? How do they make it?

55:25 Speaker 2: They go, let's say New York, they go to Albany,

55:28 Speaker 2: and they convince people that if you have a certain

55:30 Speaker 2: type of plant on the ground that's this big and

55:33 Speaker 2: in theory valueless, that it's a rare plant and you

55:37 Speaker 2: cannot even touch it. You can't go near it, you

55:41 Speaker 2: can't put a building on it, you can't do anything.

55:44 Speaker 2: Or there's a little puddle and they call it a

55:47 Speaker 2: lake and you have to go by the standards of

55:49 Speaker 2: a lake. I said, no, no, that's a puddle. Oh

55:52 Speaker 2: you have no idea. Guys are filling a little puddle.

55:55 Speaker 2: You have no idea what they do and so, but

55:57 Speaker 2: they use it as a way to stop you.

55:59 Speaker 3: These are the way to stop you. And also is

56:01 Speaker 3: the way to generate money. How they're generating money that

56:05 Speaker 3: way though.

56:05 Speaker 2: Well, they get fees, They get fees, massive fees, and

56:09 Speaker 2: pay these guys.

56:09 Speaker 3: People rely on them as experts because they're the people

56:13 Speaker 3: that they go to when they have to run these

56:15 Speaker 3: studies in the first place.

56:15 Speaker 2: But some of them are just bad guys and they're

56:17 Speaker 2: trying to make it more and more different, and.

56:19 Speaker 3: They have a lot of power.

56:21 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they maybe had more. They didn't have

56:23 Speaker 2: as much with me because I would get through them

56:26 Speaker 2: and I understood it. Look, I've had I've done so

56:29 Speaker 2: many they call it environmental impact study. I did so

56:33 Speaker 2: much to build a building. To build a building in

56:34 Speaker 2: New York is very tough. You got to be very

56:37 Speaker 2: You got to deal with think of it, financing unions,

56:42 Speaker 2: all the municipal stuff, environmental of all of it. To me,

56:46 Speaker 2: the toughest thing was the environmental because they could stop

56:50 Speaker 2: you cold with the environmental impact studies stuff. And you

56:55 Speaker 2: hire a so called expert, they say, sir, he's the

56:57 Speaker 2: one guy. He can get you through the morass. Some morass.

57:00 Speaker 2: It's horrible. They use it as a weapon. They use

57:03 Speaker 2: it all over the country.

57:04 Speaker 3: But there are legitimate concerns about environmental impact crackt like

57:07 Speaker 3: look about the VP oil spill. There's a lot of

57:09 Speaker 3: things that do happen that are environmentally devastating, and you

57:13 Speaker 3: want to mitigate that as much as possible.

57:15 Speaker 2: You do. Look, I had during our four years, we

57:17 Speaker 2: had the cleanest air in the cleanest water. I view

57:20 Speaker 2: it differently, I say air and water. Remember this, it

57:25 Speaker 2: costs much more to do things environmentally clean. China doesn't

57:30 Speaker 2: do anything right. When Carrie goes to see President Chia China,

57:35 Speaker 2: which he probably doesn't even get to see him, but

57:38 Speaker 2: they look at him, Oh, yes, yes, we will do

57:40 Speaker 2: Oh yes, yes, we're going to do that. No more call,

57:42 Speaker 2: no more cold just and then they approve fifty eight

57:45 Speaker 2: coal plants for the next you know, every they build

57:47 Speaker 2: a coal plant a week.

57:48 Speaker 3: Okay, they build a lot of coal plants.

57:50 Speaker 2: But let me just say so here we are cleaning

57:53 Speaker 2: and scrubbing everything, and everything's got in the year's got

57:55 Speaker 2: to be pure. But in three point eight days, that

58:00 Speaker 2: stuff floating over China's right over the top of us.

58:03 Speaker 2: Same thing with the oceans. They dump their garbage into

58:08 Speaker 2: the Pacific Ocean. If you take a little cork and

58:11 Speaker 2: put it there. In about a week and a half,

58:14 Speaker 2: it'll be in front of Los Angeles. We're picking up

58:17 Speaker 2: their garbage. So nobody ever talks about that. But in

58:22 Speaker 2: a way, the bigger one is even the air. It's

58:24 Speaker 2: the currents. It's an amazing thing. It's been flowing that

58:28 Speaker 2: way for a million years, long.

58:29 Speaker 3: Before the whole world. Yeah. No, if we clean Sahara

58:34 Speaker 3: dust clouds over here. Absolutely, we get dust clouds in

58:37 Speaker 3: Austin from the Sahara desert.

58:39 Speaker 2: But we get the China. You know, they call it

58:42 Speaker 2: the China curse. We get the China curse. They're better

58:45 Speaker 2: and their area is dirty. You know, when I went there,

58:49 Speaker 2: I had a great relationship with Presidency. We got along

58:51 Speaker 2: very well and they treated me better than anybody has

58:55 Speaker 2: ever been treated. Same thing with Saudi Arabic number of them,

58:58 Speaker 2: but they aid it out and I said, this air

59:02 Speaker 2: is good. Do you know they closed every factory one

59:05 Speaker 2: week before I got there, from within two hundred miles.

59:08 Speaker 3: That's like what Gavin Newsom did when Jijingpin came to

59:11 Speaker 3: San Franciscle.

59:12 Speaker 2: He cleaned it up a little terrible away to think,

59:16 Speaker 2: you know, he cleaned it up and then it became

59:18 Speaker 2: a pig.

59:19 Speaker 3: Say, well, the dumbest thing is he said, when your

59:21 Speaker 3: friends come by, when you have visitors, you clean up

59:24 Speaker 3: your house, Like, how about just keep your fucking house clean?

59:26 Speaker 2: Can you imagine?

59:27 Speaker 3: That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard anybody say, ever

59:29 Speaker 3: as a governor, as to excuse to why you finally

59:32 Speaker 3: cleaned up your homeless problem.

59:34 Speaker 2: And the day he left right back, it went right back.

59:37 Speaker 2: But in a way that was a bad thing that

59:40 Speaker 2: he did because he should. What a disgrace that was?

59:44 Speaker 2: What a disgrace.

59:45 Speaker 3: Well, this is the thing that like shows you how

59:48 Speaker 3: foolish a lot of these people that are running these

59:49 Speaker 3: cities think a lot of these people that are running

59:52 Speaker 3: these states think it's it's foolish like you, you're insulting

59:55 Speaker 3: the intelligence of the people that live in that city

59:57 Speaker 3: that are impacted by the these people just camping and

1:00:02 Speaker 3: needles and human feces. There's an app that you can buy.

1:00:06 Speaker 3: There's an app that you can get rather that will

1:00:08 Speaker 3: show you where the human feces has been documented in

1:00:11 Speaker 3: San Francisco. It's a Pooh app and it's just everywhere.

1:00:15 Speaker 3: It's just bump crap everywhere.

1:00:16 Speaker 2: But let me give you one that you may not know,

1:00:20 Speaker 2: which I think you know everything actually as a student,

1:00:23 Speaker 2: as a student of yours. But water. You know, in

1:00:28 Speaker 2: Los Angeles you can't get proper amounts of water, and

1:00:32 Speaker 2: it's unbelievably expensive. And you might have a house in

1:00:34 Speaker 2: Beverly Hills and they're actually thinking about rationing water. Could

1:00:38 Speaker 2: you believe it. I was in the farm court country

1:00:42 Speaker 2: where some of the congressmen were driving up highway, and

1:00:46 Speaker 2: I say, how come all this land is so barren?

1:00:50 Speaker 2: It's farmland? And it looked terrible. It was just brown

1:00:54 Speaker 2: and bad. I said, but there's always that little corner

1:00:58 Speaker 2: that's so green and beautiful. They said, we have no water.

1:01:02 Speaker 2: I said, do you have a drought? No, we don't

1:01:04 Speaker 2: have a drought. I said, Watern't you have no water

1:01:06 Speaker 2: because the water isn't allowed to flow down. It's got

1:01:09 Speaker 2: a natural flow from Canada all the way up north,

1:01:12 Speaker 2: more water than they could have used. And in order

1:01:16 Speaker 2: to protect a tiny little fish, the water up north

1:01:21 Speaker 2: gets routed into the Pacific Ocean. Millions and millions of

1:01:25 Speaker 2: gallons of water gets poured. You get to see this.

1:01:28 Speaker 2: We're driving up and I had never seen it before.

1:01:31 Speaker 2: It's the most It's like Iowa, it's the most fertile land.

1:01:34 Speaker 2: I always blessed with great land Idaho for a potato, right,

1:01:37 Speaker 2: But these they're just by the way. You know, some

1:01:40 Speaker 2: land is good for a potato, some land is good

1:01:42 Speaker 2: for corner. It's the craziest thing. I love the farmers.

1:01:45 Speaker 2: They're great, they're the greatest. And by the way, they're

1:01:47 Speaker 2: getting killed right now. They're getting killed because of this

1:01:49 Speaker 2: stupid administration. But so I see this and I said,

1:01:53 Speaker 2: you gotta be kidding. I said, you mean you have water?

1:01:56 Speaker 2: And I looked at it. It's like a valve and

1:01:59 Speaker 2: you sink. Accept It's massive, the things five times totally

1:02:02 Speaker 2: than your ceiling.

1:02:03 Speaker 3: Did you know the center of California was a giant lake?

1:02:07 Speaker 3: They have so much You ever see what it looks

1:02:08 Speaker 3: like before they re routed the center of California, Like,

1:02:11 Speaker 3: was it two hundred years ago? How long ago did

1:02:14 Speaker 3: they do that, Jamie? The center of California had a

1:02:17 Speaker 3: fucking enormous lake in the middle of California.

1:02:20 Speaker 2: They dumped it into the Pacific.

1:02:21 Speaker 3: Who knows what they did, but whatever foolishness that they

1:02:25 Speaker 3: did led to the situation they're in now.

1:02:28 Speaker 2: Think of those dry forests that burned down all over

1:02:32 Speaker 2: you know the head of Austria.

1:02:34 Speaker 3: Tulayir Lake or Tachi Lake, it's a freshwater lake in

1:02:38 Speaker 3: the southern San Joaquin Valley, United States. Historically, Tulaya Lake

1:02:42 Speaker 3: was one of the largest freshwater lakes west. The Mississippi

1:02:44 Speaker 3: Show photo would it look like back then?

1:02:48 Speaker 2: That's a great sis.

1:02:49 Speaker 3: So that's what it looked like. Look at that image.

1:02:51 Speaker 3: Another one, go to the one on the third from

1:02:53 Speaker 3: the right.

1:02:53 Speaker 2: Yeah.

1:02:53 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was an enormous lake in the middle of California.

1:02:57 Speaker 2: Imagine that that'd be much more valuable.

1:02:59 Speaker 3: How crazy is that? But how crazy is that?

1:03:01 Speaker 2: What you look like?

1:03:02 Speaker 3: And human beings screwed that?

1:03:03 Speaker 2: No, they let it go into the Pacific and then

1:03:05 Speaker 2: they I don't.

1:03:06 Speaker 3: Know what they did. What did they do that? How

1:03:08 Speaker 3: did it go missing?

1:03:11 Speaker 2: Yeah, they drained it nineteen nineteen eighty three.

1:03:16 Speaker 3: Oh my god, it was full of times. Oh dry,

1:03:19 Speaker 3: a handful of times. Well, you know, lakes do go dry,

1:03:23 Speaker 3: but that's a big one. But think of a big one.

1:03:24 Speaker 2: You could have all of the water you need, All

1:03:28 Speaker 2: of that land would have more water. The whole thing

1:03:31 Speaker 2: could be like that little patch. Literally, I'd say. I

1:03:34 Speaker 2: was with Devin known as a congressman and other congressmen.

1:03:36 Speaker 2: We were going up. I was visiting that because they

1:03:39 Speaker 2: asked me to go up and visit their territory, and

1:03:41 Speaker 2: I did. But I kept saying, look at this land.

1:03:43 Speaker 2: It's beautiful, but it's so dry. And I thought they

1:03:46 Speaker 2: were going through like a desert, like a drought. They said, no,

1:03:49 Speaker 2: we have water, but it gets rd. So I looked

1:03:51 Speaker 2: into it is. I got it done. I got it done.

1:03:55 Speaker 2: I could have water for all of that land, water

1:03:58 Speaker 2: for your forest. You know, your far said dry as

1:04:00 Speaker 2: a bone. Okay, dangerous. That water could be routed. You know,

1:04:04 Speaker 2: you could have everything, not only dangerous. Billions of dollars

1:04:08 Speaker 2: a year they spend on forest fires, and you know,

1:04:10 Speaker 2: there's a case with the environment. They're not allowed to

1:04:13 Speaker 2: rake their forests because you're not allowed to touch it.

1:04:16 Speaker 2: When a tree foils down after eighteen months, it becomes

1:04:19 Speaker 2: very dry. It's like, you know, like real firewood. It's bad.

1:04:22 Speaker 2: You know, a tree that's up. These are all things

1:04:25 Speaker 2: I learned the hard way, the easy way. But when

1:04:29 Speaker 2: a tree is up, it sucks water. It's wet. I

1:04:32 Speaker 2: went to that the hard They had a couple of

1:04:34 Speaker 2: horrible forest fires in California, and what I said, you know,

1:04:37 Speaker 2: you had a lot of trees standing. Yes, they were

1:04:38 Speaker 2: healthy trees there, I said, with this intense heat that

1:04:42 Speaker 2: you could see they were charred a little bit on

1:04:43 Speaker 2: the bottom. But they were going to be all right

1:04:45 Speaker 2: because they're soaking wet because they suck up the water, right,

1:04:48 Speaker 2: But when they fall, they're like, you know, it's like

1:04:51 Speaker 2: lighting a match. Yeah, and you've got to be able

1:04:53 Speaker 2: to clean they call maintain your forest. So it's with

1:04:56 Speaker 2: the head of Austria. He said, you know, it's a shame.

1:04:59 Speaker 2: I see all those forest fires in California and all

1:05:02 Speaker 2: they have to do is clean their forest, meaning rake

1:05:05 Speaker 2: it up, get rid of the leaves, get rid of

1:05:07 Speaker 2: you know, leaves that are sitting there for five years.

1:05:09 Speaker 3: And they'll certainly get rid of the dead fall.

1:05:11 Speaker 2: And get rid of the trees that are falling and

1:05:13 Speaker 2: that you know, are like uh, so many things this country.

1:05:18 Speaker 3: By the way, could you have it all forest? Though?

1:05:21 Speaker 3: I don't think you could break the whole forest. I

1:05:23 Speaker 3: think you get rid of the dead fall, but raking all.

1:05:24 Speaker 2: You could you certainly get rid of the dead. Okay,

1:05:28 Speaker 2: you know environmentally they don't want to do that. They don't.

1:05:30 Speaker 2: They said, you know, it's got to be nature and

1:05:31 Speaker 2: all this stuff. But in the meantime, this is exactly right.

1:05:35 Speaker 2: But you could have so it was the Department of

1:05:38 Speaker 2: Commerce that needed the approvals, but Gavin Newsoen had to

1:05:42 Speaker 2: sign them. I got it all done. Nobody could believe it.

1:05:45 Speaker 2: It was all done. I said, I got it. You

1:05:48 Speaker 2: got so much water, all you have to do is sign.

1:05:53 Speaker 2: And that guy didn't want to sign.

1:05:55 Speaker 3: Did he not want to sign because that would be

1:05:57 Speaker 3: a political victory for you?

1:05:58 Speaker 2: I think no, you didn't know. I don't think so.

1:06:01 Speaker 2: You know, he used to say he's a great president,

1:06:04 Speaker 2: that we got along. We did, we actually got along

1:06:06 Speaker 2: at that point. But I think somebody said, you just

1:06:09 Speaker 2: can't continue to call him a great president. You know,

1:06:12 Speaker 2: they do say that. But we had it all done.

1:06:15 Speaker 2: He didn't sign, and then we got onto other things.

1:06:18 Speaker 2: And every time I go to California, said, you have

1:06:21 Speaker 2: so much water. They don't know it. I'm telling you,

1:06:25 Speaker 2: people living in Beverly Hills they turn off the water.

1:06:27 Speaker 2: Same thing with the electric. They want to go to

1:06:29 Speaker 2: all electric cars, but they have Brandon ass every weekend.

1:06:31 Speaker 2: You know.

1:06:32 Speaker 3: Well, right after they made the announcement that as of

1:06:34 Speaker 3: twenty thirty five, you're not going to be able to

1:06:36 Speaker 3: buy an internal combustion engine in California, like within a

1:06:39 Speaker 3: month they had some announcement asking people to not charge

1:06:43 Speaker 3: their teslas because the grid couldn't handle it.

1:06:47 Speaker 2: Well, how I will terminate the mandate, I media, This

1:06:50 Speaker 2: is mandata that will be done, I would say in

1:06:52 Speaker 2: my first day, maybe two days, because you know.

1:06:55 Speaker 3: Let me ask you about nuclear One of the things

1:06:58 Speaker 3: that when I've talked to people that have a real

1:07:00 Speaker 3: understanding of nuclear power, what their position is, it's probably

1:07:04 Speaker 3: the cleanest, safest form of electricity that we could generate,

1:07:08 Speaker 3: and that the fears of nuclear power are really about

1:07:13 Speaker 3: a few disasters the Fukushima through my island, that these

1:07:19 Speaker 3: these are old systems, and that they could they're much

1:07:22 Speaker 3: more capable now and they're capable of making even better systems.

1:07:25 Speaker 3: But it's a difficult political issue because you think nuclear power,

1:07:30 Speaker 3: you think Chernobyl, that's what everybody does. They have this connection,

1:07:33 Speaker 3: they had the potentials.

1:07:36 Speaker 2: You're not supposed to enter the land for three thousand years.

1:07:38 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's probably. I think it's worse than that. I

1:07:40 Speaker 3: think that area is like going to be radioactive for

1:07:43 Speaker 3: probably longer than you could imagine. But the point is

1:07:47 Speaker 3: they're better at it now and that they could do

1:07:49 Speaker 3: it now, and you can generate power in a way

1:07:52 Speaker 3: that you don't have to worry about these One of

1:07:54 Speaker 3: the most ridiculous things is electric cars being powered by

1:07:58 Speaker 3: coal fired plants.

1:08:00 Speaker 2: So what's happening.

1:08:01 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is, what's happening. And people want to think

1:08:03 Speaker 3: they're being green, you know, but it's.

1:08:06 Speaker 2: Well if that you look at the way the battery

1:08:07 Speaker 2: has been But here's the other thing we don't have,

1:08:10 Speaker 2: well we do, actually it's being held. You know. We

1:08:12 Speaker 2: have certain areas where we have great raw earth material

1:08:16 Speaker 2: and we're not allowed to use it because of the environment.

1:08:18 Speaker 2: And we have areas in California that have incredible raw

1:08:21 Speaker 2: earth and they're not allowing and I'm going to open

1:08:24 Speaker 2: it up. I'm going to let him use it.

1:08:26 Speaker 3: But how do you do that, China? How do you

1:08:28 Speaker 3: do that and protect the environment.

1:08:29 Speaker 2: Because the environment's going to be protected. You can do it.

1:08:32 Speaker 2: You can make a lake out of it. Okay, we'll

1:08:33 Speaker 2: put back a lake I mean something nice about like

1:08:36 Speaker 2: you can do things magnificently.

1:08:39 Speaker 3: You just have to do it carefully.

1:08:41 Speaker 2: Absolutely, you have to do it carefully. But the problem,

1:08:44 Speaker 2: you know, China has all of those areas, most of

1:08:47 Speaker 2: those areas, and yet when they say go electric with

1:08:51 Speaker 2: the cars, China is going to be the one that

1:08:53 Speaker 2: gives us the cars. All of those guys in Detroit

1:08:56 Speaker 2: are going to be out of business. You're going to

1:08:57 Speaker 2: make your electric cars over there. We have a thing

1:08:59 Speaker 2: called gasoline, and we have more oil and gas under

1:09:03 Speaker 2: our feet than any other nation. You know. I had

1:09:06 Speaker 2: in Alaska. There's a fine it's called n war. I

1:09:10 Speaker 2: got it approved. Reagan couldn't get it. Nobody could get it.

1:09:12 Speaker 2: I got it all done. It was amazing. They were

1:09:15 Speaker 2: getting ready to start drilling the equivalent they think of

1:09:19 Speaker 2: Saudi Arabia, one of the biggest finds in the world.

1:09:22 Speaker 2: It was all set to go, and Biden comes in

1:09:25 Speaker 2: his one of his first orders were we're not going

1:09:28 Speaker 2: to use it. It would have been so good for

1:09:30 Speaker 2: the We could have supplied all of Asia with oil

1:09:33 Speaker 2: and gamestive, and you talk about money. The negative was politically,

1:09:38 Speaker 2: they didn't think it was good for them. That's all.

1:09:40 Speaker 3: That's all it was. So you don't think that it's

1:09:41 Speaker 3: environmentally dangerous.

1:09:42 Speaker 2: Taking it from way down deep in the earth. Environmentally

1:09:46 Speaker 2: it would have been.

1:09:46 Speaker 3: Fined, so it can be done responsible.

1:09:48 Speaker 2: Absolutely.

1:09:49 Speaker 3: Oh otherwise, let's take the environment.

1:09:50 Speaker 2: Well, I think windmills. Okay, so they talk about winds.

1:09:54 Speaker 2: I think windmills are really disruptive when you talk about

1:09:57 Speaker 2: the environment. They killed the birds. You want to see

1:10:00 Speaker 2: a bird cemetery go under a windmill someday that hasn't

1:10:03 Speaker 2: been cleaned out with all the bird carcasses. You it's

1:10:07 Speaker 2: like massive amounts of.

1:10:09 Speaker 3: They're also a massive ice ore. I went to a

1:10:12 Speaker 3: ranch in South Texas. We had to drive past this

1:10:14 Speaker 3: enormous windmill farm, and it's gross. It's dystopian. You're you're

1:10:19 Speaker 3: looking in the left and the right. All he sees

1:10:20 Speaker 3: these big spinning machines that aren't even that effective at generating.

1:10:24 Speaker 2: Elecity most expensive form of electricity is a windmill. And

1:10:29 Speaker 2: then they start to rust and rout and you have

1:10:31 Speaker 2: to and then they get abandoned by the people that

1:10:33 Speaker 2: built them.

1:10:34 Speaker 3: Well, you have to get rid of all that material too.

1:10:36 Speaker 3: When you replace those blades. Now you have a problem

1:10:39 Speaker 3: because you have to dispose, right, you have to dispose

1:10:42 Speaker 3: these enormous windmills.

1:10:44 Speaker 2: And by the way, they say you can't bury them,

1:10:46 Speaker 2: so I even question that, but I'm not going to

1:10:48 Speaker 2: get into it. But they say you can't bury the bust.

1:10:50 Speaker 2: So you have the blades and you can't bury the blazes.

1:10:53 Speaker 2: You can bury the blades. It's not going about it.

1:10:54 Speaker 2: You can bury that. You'll find areas you can bury.

1:10:56 Speaker 2: But they come up this is what I mean, they

1:10:58 Speaker 2: come up with this. But the vironmentalist dream is windmills everywhere.

1:11:02 Speaker 2: You know what happens to them? After five years they

1:11:04 Speaker 2: start to rout. After ten years, you have to replace them.

1:11:07 Speaker 2: Did you ever look at certain parts of California where

1:11:10 Speaker 2: they have heavy windmills and they've been abandoned, and they're

1:11:13 Speaker 2: all different manufacturers, in all different companies, and they are

1:11:17 Speaker 2: It is the ugliest thing. It looks like a graveyard,

1:11:20 Speaker 2: almost a graveyard of windmills.

1:11:22 Speaker 3: It's pollution.

1:11:23 Speaker 2: It's so bad.

1:11:24 Speaker 3: It's in the oceans. It's no different than leaving garbage

1:11:27 Speaker 3: on the ground.

1:11:28 Speaker 2: How about in New Jersey. Off the coast of New Jersey,

1:11:30 Speaker 2: they want to build that. People are going crazy not

1:11:34 Speaker 2: to build them, but we have them. The whales are

1:11:36 Speaker 2: washing up on shore. So in fifty years they had

1:11:40 Speaker 2: one whale come ashore, now they had like eighteen come

1:11:43 Speaker 2: in the last year.

1:11:44 Speaker 3: What is the What is happening with the whales? I've

1:11:46 Speaker 3: read about this.

1:11:47 Speaker 2: Well, they say that the wind drives them crazy. You know,

1:11:49 Speaker 2: it's a vibration because you have those you know those

1:11:52 Speaker 2: things that fifty story buildings, some of.

1:11:54 Speaker 3: Them right, and they're super sensitive to vibrations.

1:11:56 Speaker 2: They have those. You know, the wind is rushing, the

1:11:59 Speaker 2: things are blowing. It's vibration and it makes noise. You

1:12:02 Speaker 2: know what it is. I want to be a whale psychiatrist.

1:12:05 Speaker 2: It drives the whales freaking crazy, and something happens with them.

1:12:10 Speaker 2: But for whatever reason, they're getting washed up on shore.

1:12:14 Speaker 2: And you know, and yet the environment, but the environments,

1:12:18 Speaker 2: they don't talk about it. I think there's nothing uglier.

1:12:20 Speaker 2: I see it in Scotland, I see it all over

1:12:22 Speaker 2: the world. You have this beautiful valley, it's been there

1:12:26 Speaker 2: for you know, in civilization thousands of years, but millions

1:12:30 Speaker 2: of years, and all of a sudden you have these

1:12:32 Speaker 2: ugly windmills.

1:12:33 Speaker 3: Up to replace that with nuclear what would.

1:12:36 Speaker 2: You do well, nuclear is better. I mean, I think

1:12:38 Speaker 2: there's a little danger of nuclear. But you know, we

1:12:40 Speaker 2: had some really bad nuclear They did one in Alabama,

1:12:44 Speaker 2: they did one in I think South Carolina. They do

1:12:48 Speaker 2: them wrong. They build these massive things, then the environmentals

1:12:52 Speaker 2: get in. It's I don't want to go into a

1:12:54 Speaker 2: long story because it's too long for the show. This

1:12:56 Speaker 2: show is too valuable to talk about concrete. But they

1:12:59 Speaker 2: have hardened concrete. It's number twelve concrete. It's the hardest.

1:13:02 Speaker 2: It's harder than steel. It's incredible. They put up a

1:13:05 Speaker 2: wall and an inspector comes along those Nope, nope, you're

1:13:07 Speaker 2: a quarter of an inch to the wall might be

1:13:10 Speaker 2: eight feet wide, you're a quarter of an inch too short.

1:13:13 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. You gotta rip down the wall. You got

1:13:15 Speaker 2: it because it's got to be poured contiguously. Right, you're

1:13:18 Speaker 2: one quarter of an inch, I'm sorry, ripped down it.

1:13:20 Speaker 2: You can't rip it down. This stuff. You can't put

1:13:22 Speaker 2: a hammer through it. You can't. It's it's incredible. Concrete

1:13:26 Speaker 2: technology is unbelievable. What you know, what's happened? You think of.

1:13:29 Speaker 3: Compete, that's an example of overregulation.

1:13:32 Speaker 2: Yeah, pointless, Well, you have an inspector that comes along

1:13:35 Speaker 2: and he says, take down at twenty five zillion dollar wall.

1:13:38 Speaker 2: These things ended up costing twenty five billion dollars and

1:13:42 Speaker 2: one of them never got opened. But here's the story.

1:13:45 Speaker 2: So France does it. France is largely nuclear and they

1:13:50 Speaker 2: build small, little compact plants and if they need more,

1:13:53 Speaker 2: they build the same thing and they hook it up,

1:13:55 Speaker 2: and they hook it up because they get too big

1:13:58 Speaker 2: and too complex and two and it is very clean.

1:14:03 Speaker 2: They say, it's it's absolutely you know my uncle I

1:14:06 Speaker 2: had a great uncle who was a great genius, just

1:14:09 Speaker 2: like other members of my family. But he was a

1:14:13 Speaker 2: professor at MIT for I think forty one years. He

1:14:17 Speaker 2: was the longest. When I was in the White House,

1:14:20 Speaker 2: they head of a MIT Princeton and Harvard came down

1:14:23 Speaker 2: to meet me and the MIT person said, I have

1:14:26 Speaker 2: a book on your uncle, doctor John Trump. He was

1:14:29 Speaker 2: our longest serving professor. He was a great genius, sir,

1:14:31 Speaker 2: do you know how? And he had he knew everything

1:14:35 Speaker 2: about from math to chemistry to nuclear He knew it.

1:14:40 Speaker 2: And he said, someday it's going to be the way

1:14:42 Speaker 2: to go. But the problem is so dangerous in terms

1:14:45 Speaker 2: of war.

1:14:46 Speaker 3: He said.

1:14:48 Speaker 2: Donald, Someday, and this was a long time uncle John,

1:14:51 Speaker 2: doctor John Trump. He said, someday, you'll have a little

1:14:55 Speaker 2: satchel at your side and you'll go into a building

1:14:59 Speaker 2: and you'll be able to blow up New York City.

1:15:01 Speaker 2: I said, oh God, John, that'll never happen. He's right,

1:15:03 Speaker 2: you know, he's right.

1:15:04 Speaker 3: Well, that was powerlo giving nuclear power to other countries,

1:15:09 Speaker 3: right like that was the problem that happened with India

1:15:11 Speaker 3: and Pakistan. They got nuclear power and then they were

1:15:14 Speaker 3: able to weaponize it.

1:15:15 Speaker 2: The biggest problem in the world today is not global warming,

1:15:19 Speaker 2: it's nuclear warming. And we have idiots that are negotiating

1:15:24 Speaker 2: for us. We have a guy that doesn't make it

1:15:26 Speaker 2: past four o'clock. And it's not because of age. You know.

1:15:30 Speaker 2: I know so many guys in their late eighties, and

1:15:32 Speaker 2: they're better than there. I said to one guy the other,

1:15:34 Speaker 2: I think he's smarter than you were twenty five years ago.

1:15:36 Speaker 2: I've known him a long time. He's eighty nine years old.

1:15:38 Speaker 2: He's sharp. I mean, he's great. Biden gives people a

1:15:43 Speaker 2: bad name because that's not an old, that's not an age.

1:15:46 Speaker 2: I think they say it because I'm three or four

1:15:48 Speaker 2: years younger, you know. I think that's why they say it.

1:15:50 Speaker 2: They say his age. It's not his age. He's got

1:15:52 Speaker 2: a problem. Two major brain spatories he did, he did

1:15:56 Speaker 2: those are not good operations.

1:15:57 Speaker 3: And do you see what he did today? He went

1:16:00 Speaker 3: running towards the camera and made some apology to Native

1:16:04 Speaker 3: Americans and that he said, that's why he's had it

1:16:06 Speaker 3: out west, like he's off the reservation, so to speak,

1:16:10 Speaker 3: for lack of a better term.

1:16:12 Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting because during the debate, I was

1:16:16 Speaker 2: looking over, I'm saying, this is strange. It's just like

1:16:20 Speaker 2: strange things were happening.

1:16:21 Speaker 3: Yeah, but he couldn't keep it together. But do you

1:16:23 Speaker 3: think they knew he couldn't keep it together? I do

1:16:25 Speaker 3: you think that they wanted? Is that why, like historically

1:16:28 Speaker 3: that debate was earlier than they've been in the past, right.

1:16:32 Speaker 2: I think they wanted to get well, there's a lot

1:16:34 Speaker 2: of theories. A lot of people said do the debate

1:16:36 Speaker 2: now and we'll get him out, right. I think that

1:16:39 Speaker 2: maybe could be.

1:16:40 Speaker 3: Well that is what happened.

1:16:42 Speaker 2: I think they also said do the debate now and

1:16:44 Speaker 2: get it over with. I don't think anybody thought he

1:16:48 Speaker 2: was going to get out really.

1:16:49 Speaker 3: I don't make any sense the debate.

1:16:51 Speaker 2: The debate got him out, but I think it's very unfair. Look,

1:16:54 Speaker 2: you have a bad debate. His numbers went down. But

1:16:58 Speaker 2: I think she's not doing very well right now, and

1:17:00 Speaker 2: I think she looks well.

1:17:02 Speaker 3: I get to that too, because it's hard to know.

1:17:04 Speaker 3: Like the whole Pole thing is very bizarre for most people,

1:17:07 Speaker 3: because most people don't answer poles, so they read the polls.

1:17:10 Speaker 3: Then where you have all from a pole. I I

1:17:12 Speaker 3: didn't hang out.

1:17:12 Speaker 2: I was never called by a pulse.

1:17:14 Speaker 3: If I did, I wouldn't answer. I'm busy.

1:17:15 Speaker 2: You know how poles had done. Oh I'm going to

1:17:17 Speaker 2: get my sleep in trouble. But so I really don't

1:17:20 Speaker 2: believe too much in it.

1:17:22 Speaker 3: So well twenty sixteen taught a lot of people about

1:17:24 Speaker 3: the ineffective.

1:17:25 Speaker 2: Well, they were very effective because I thought I was

1:17:27 Speaker 2: doing well. I'd go to a place and I'd have

1:17:30 Speaker 2: thirty forty thousand people. Hillary would go they have five

1:17:32 Speaker 2: hundred people, and they tell me I'm going to lose.

1:17:34 Speaker 2: I said, why am I going to lose? I had

1:17:36 Speaker 2: forty thousand people. She had two hundred people. But you know,

1:17:39 Speaker 2: I have a theory of these pulses. They charge you

1:17:41 Speaker 2: a lot of money too, you know, they charge you

1:17:42 Speaker 2: half a million bucks to do some stupid pole and

1:17:44 Speaker 2: they interview like two hundred and fifty one people. I

1:17:47 Speaker 2: don't think they interview In many cases, I don't want

1:17:50 Speaker 2: to get myself in too much showing bullshit. I think

1:17:53 Speaker 2: they sit there, they make a deal, they get a

1:17:54 Speaker 2: half a million bucks, and they say Trump's leading fifty

1:17:58 Speaker 2: one to forty nine. They announced it, and everybody says, oh,

1:18:01 Speaker 2: do you understand I've heard. I don't think they I

1:18:04 Speaker 2: think in a lot. Look, I'm a very common sense person.

1:18:08 Speaker 2: I think that they probably don't always Paul. Some of

1:18:12 Speaker 2: them probably never Paul, what's the difference between forty nine

1:18:17 Speaker 2: to fifty one and forty seven and a half.

1:18:20 Speaker 3: Well, it's also a tiny percentage of the population. I

1:18:23 Speaker 3: don't think it's representative of the overall population. I just don't.

1:18:27 Speaker 2: I don't know of one person in my whole life

1:18:29 Speaker 2: that ever got called by.

1:18:30 Speaker 3: A pulse exactly. That's my point. So here's here's my question.

1:18:35 Speaker 2: But I shouldn't say that because I'm doing very you know,

1:18:37 Speaker 2: really well in the polls, and I think that's so

1:18:39 Speaker 2: this week I happen to believe in a verse, I

1:18:41 Speaker 2: only believe if they could.

1:18:43 Speaker 3: No.

1:18:44 Speaker 2: I like them this month, but no, I honestly believe

1:18:47 Speaker 2: that this is probably a lot of fraud. I had

1:18:49 Speaker 2: a Paul Washington post ABC in the Hillary thing on Wisconsin.

1:18:53 Speaker 2: They had me down seventeen points the day before the election.

1:18:57 Speaker 2: I knew it was wrong because I had a rally

1:19:00 Speaker 2: only nine thousand people at a racetrack and it was

1:19:02 Speaker 2: like zero do is Wisconsin, and they had me down

1:19:05 Speaker 2: seventeen points. In other words, you had no chance. And

1:19:08 Speaker 2: I won. And I called up my posters, good guy, good,

1:19:12 Speaker 2: good guy, and I believe he's legitimate, and you know,

1:19:15 Speaker 2: and some of them are and some of them are.

1:19:17 Speaker 2: I said, tell me, why did they have me down

1:19:20 Speaker 2: so much? I mean, nobody's going to believe them the

1:19:23 Speaker 2: next time. They said, they don't care. When you're down

1:19:25 Speaker 2: seventeen points, people are going to stay home. They're not

1:19:28 Speaker 2: going to vote right because they're going to say, I

1:19:30 Speaker 2: love Trump, but I'm not going to waste my time.

1:19:32 Speaker 2: It's cold out. I said, but what do they make it?

1:19:34 Speaker 2: Four or five? He said, at four or five, they're

1:19:37 Speaker 2: going to go and vote. At seventeen they're not going

1:19:39 Speaker 2: to go and vote, so think of it. I was seven,

1:19:41 Speaker 2: This is the Washington Post, ABC, Paul, I was down

1:19:44 Speaker 2: seventeen points in Wisconsin and I won. It's crooked stuff.

1:19:49 Speaker 3: There's a lot of crooked stuff. And I wanted to

1:19:51 Speaker 3: talk about that too, because one of the things that

1:19:53 Speaker 3: people talk about with you is the denial of the results.

1:19:59 Speaker 3: And I think JD. Van Instead a brilliant job. The

1:20:01 Speaker 3: other day when he was being interviewed UH and they

1:20:03 Speaker 3: asked him, did Trump lose the twenty twenty election? And

1:20:06 Speaker 3: he turned it around and said, was their legitimate election

1:20:10 Speaker 3: interference in suppressing the Hunter Biden laptop story on social media?

1:20:15 Speaker 3: And was that a concerted effort?

1:20:18 Speaker 2: Well difference and I lost by one one tenth of

1:20:24 Speaker 2: a point. It is They say it was twenty two

1:20:26 Speaker 2: thousand of us, but look it was much more than that.

1:20:29 Speaker 2: And I appreciate J. Devens saying that. And by the way,

1:20:31 Speaker 2: I think he was a great pick.

1:20:34 Speaker 3: Like I like him a lot.

1:20:35 Speaker 2: You're allowed to say that.

1:20:37 Speaker 3: I think he's a brilliant guy, and I think his

1:20:40 Speaker 3: ability to talk like a normal human being. He did

1:20:43 Speaker 3: you did, my friend THEO Vaughan's podcast and he just

1:20:45 Speaker 3: did it.

1:20:46 Speaker 2: How did he do it?

1:20:47 Speaker 3: Did great? And he just talks like a human being?

1:20:50 Speaker 2: Is that what you called me to do?

1:20:52 Speaker 3: No?

1:20:52 Speaker 2: No, we really I was he was they shot you.

1:20:56 Speaker 3: I was like, he's got to come in here. It's

1:20:57 Speaker 3: all about timing. It's all about the timing.

1:20:59 Speaker 2: Time.

1:21:00 Speaker 3: Think timing is perfect. Do you even have a scar

1:21:01 Speaker 3: in your ear? You got anything on there? I do

1:21:03 Speaker 3: what we say?

1:21:05 Speaker 2: So right over here. It zicked right there.

1:21:11 Speaker 3: It healed up pretty fucking good man.

1:21:13 Speaker 2: That's pretty good. Yeah, it's a little it's not like

1:21:16 Speaker 2: some of the wrestlers, some of the UFC fighters. No, no,

1:21:21 Speaker 2: it got it was sort of like a top shot.

1:21:24 Speaker 2: The point of the bullet was older thes but you

1:21:26 Speaker 2: see the things take it off a little bit. But uh,

1:21:31 Speaker 2: it makes me a tougher guy. You know the fighters,

1:21:33 Speaker 2: you know, the fighters love their you know, Bo Nichol

1:21:36 Speaker 2: is a great fight. How's he going to do?

1:21:38 Speaker 3: I think he's great.

1:21:39 Speaker 2: He's a fantastic He was almost like undefeated and he still.

1:21:42 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a fantastic wrestler and one of the one

1:21:44 Speaker 3: of the best mixed martins.

1:21:45 Speaker 2: When is he fighting again?

1:21:46 Speaker 3: He's fighting a masters square garden in November.

1:21:49 Speaker 2: Oh, that's going to be an after the election. Yep.

1:21:52 Speaker 2: So I'll either go as president or I'll be depressed

1:21:54 Speaker 2: and I won't bother them. Yeah, I think they're having

1:21:58 Speaker 2: a fight right at.

1:21:58 Speaker 3: One of the things that was fastening also was the

1:22:01 Speaker 3: denial of the election results is a pretty common thing.

1:22:05 Speaker 3: Hillary Clinton famously denied that. She called you an illegitimate president,

1:22:09 Speaker 3: and she said that Russia put you in place.

1:22:11 Speaker 2: Even though she conceded, yes, you know, she conceded the

1:22:13 Speaker 2: night of the election because she was beaten.

1:22:15 Speaker 3: Yes. And it was a thing that was pretty common

1:22:19 Speaker 3: for people, especially Democrats, to deny the elections. There's been

1:22:24 Speaker 3: many of them, the Bush administration, the you know, the

1:22:27 Speaker 3: dangling chads, all that stuff.

1:22:29 Speaker 2: Well, look at these guys in Congress, all these sleaves

1:22:31 Speaker 2: bags in Congress that are Democrats. They are still denying

1:22:34 Speaker 2: twenty sixteen. But now they don't so much because you know,

1:22:37 Speaker 2: they try and pin it on me. You don't hear

1:22:39 Speaker 2: them saying, but here's what they denied it right up

1:22:41 Speaker 2: until the end.

1:22:42 Speaker 3: My point is this idea of election fraud is a

1:22:46 Speaker 3: forbidden topic, and you get labeled an election deny. It's

1:22:49 Speaker 3: like being labeled an anti vaxer. If you question some

1:22:52 Speaker 3: of the health consequences that people have from the COVID

1:22:55 Speaker 3: nineteen shots, Oh my god, anti you're an anti vaxer.

1:22:58 Speaker 3: If you say and what I say publicly, and I've

1:23:01 Speaker 3: said this a lot, it's not zero percent. So if

1:23:05 Speaker 3: you ask me, what is the amount of election fraud

1:23:07 Speaker 3: in this country? Is it zero percent? No one thinks

1:23:10 Speaker 3: it's zero percent. I've never met one person, not of

1:23:14 Speaker 3: super liberal, progressive, far left person or a right wing conservative.

1:23:19 Speaker 3: Not one person thinks it's zero percent. They think when

1:23:22 Speaker 3: you have human beings. And also you have a lot

1:23:25 Speaker 3: of weirdness that was going on during the twenty twenty elections,

1:23:29 Speaker 3: particularly with mail in ballots.

1:23:31 Speaker 2: And you had legislatures that had to approve and they

1:23:34 Speaker 2: didn't approve, and they went out and did it anyway.

1:23:37 Speaker 2: And you had ballot you had old fashioned ballot screwing.

1:23:41 Speaker 2: I mean, you had well you have people going up

1:23:44 Speaker 2: and dropping in phony votes. You had unsigned ballots, et cetera,

1:23:47 Speaker 2: et cetera.

1:23:47 Speaker 3: There's certain people that think they have and there's the

1:23:50 Speaker 3: rhetoric is also that you're Hitler, and that in order

1:23:53 Speaker 3: to stop Hitler you have to do whatever it is.

1:23:56 Speaker 2: It was okay, yeah, yeah, and this is I mean.

1:23:57 Speaker 3: You're hearing this now. Kamala compared you to said your

1:24:00 Speaker 3: love of Hitler yesterday.

1:24:02 Speaker 2: It's you know, Kamla is a very low IQ person.

1:24:05 Speaker 2: She's a very low acute you know. I'm for taking

1:24:08 Speaker 2: tests too. I think anybody that runs for president should

1:24:11 Speaker 2: take they should give them tests. And it's not an

1:24:13 Speaker 2: age thing. It's not based If you look back on

1:24:16 Speaker 2: history seventies and eighties, your greatest some of your greatest

1:24:19 Speaker 2: leaders in the world's world history, longtime world history, they

1:24:23 Speaker 2: were in their seventies and their eighties. But I think

1:24:26 Speaker 2: you should take cognitive tests. I think everybody they say

1:24:29 Speaker 2: it's unconstitutional, but I.

1:24:31 Speaker 3: Think that's ridiculous.

1:24:32 Speaker 2: I think Kamala should have a test because there's something missing,

1:24:34 Speaker 2: there's something wrong with her.

1:24:35 Speaker 3: Well, I think it's pressure. I think the pressure and

1:24:38 Speaker 3: the scrutiny. You've been a celebrity for a long time

1:24:40 Speaker 3: and you understand what this is like. But for someone

1:24:43 Speaker 3: who's in her late forties, who becomes the vice president,

1:24:46 Speaker 3: who runs for president, becomes the vice president, and then

1:24:48 Speaker 3: all of a sudden, the weight of the world is

1:24:50 Speaker 3: on your shoulders and there's all these people paying to

1:24:52 Speaker 3: a lot of people clam up.

1:24:54 Speaker 2: But you'll be the havity you don't correct. Look, this

1:24:57 Speaker 2: is an interview. You've we've covered a lot of territory, right,

1:25:00 Speaker 2: and you know it's fine. I don't care. I want to.

1:25:03 Speaker 2: I think it's much more interesting. She to do an

1:25:07 Speaker 2: interview with Anderson Cooper, a softball, crazy softball interview. She

1:25:14 Speaker 2: took two days off and she studied and studied all

1:25:17 Speaker 2: day long, and then she comes out with a result

1:25:19 Speaker 2: that was a real embarrassment. That was a really bad interview.

1:25:21 Speaker 2: She couldn't answer a question and every question is not answered.

1:25:25 Speaker 2: I mean, like, what would you do your first day

1:25:28 Speaker 2: in office? Okay, I'll build a wall. I won't build

1:25:30 Speaker 2: a wall. There's one hundred things you can say, just

1:25:33 Speaker 2: say anything, right, there's something off with her. Well, we're

1:25:37 Speaker 2: dealing we're dealing with the smartest people. They hate when

1:25:41 Speaker 2: I say, you know, when the press when I call presidency,

1:25:43 Speaker 2: they said he called president she brilliant. Well he's a

1:25:46 Speaker 2: brilliant guy. He controls one point four billion people with

1:25:48 Speaker 2: an iron fist. I mean, he's a brilliant guy. Whether

1:25:50 Speaker 2: you like it, or not, and they go crazy.

1:25:53 Speaker 3: Right, it doesn't mean he's not evil, or it doesn't

1:25:55 Speaker 3: mean he's not Yeah, of course not dangerous.

1:25:57 Speaker 2: But actually we have evil people in our country. If

1:26:01 Speaker 2: you have a smart president, he can deal with Russia.

1:26:04 Speaker 2: He can deal with all of it. Russia would have

1:26:07 Speaker 2: never gone into Ukraine if I were president.

1:26:09 Speaker 3: How would you have stopped it?

1:26:11 Speaker 2: Automatic Two things I told him. I said, Vladimir, you're

1:26:15 Speaker 2: not gone in. I used to talk to him all

1:26:17 Speaker 2: the time, You're not going in. I can't tell you

1:26:20 Speaker 2: what I told him because I think it would be inappropriate.

1:26:23 Speaker 2: But someday he'll tell you. But he would have never

1:26:25 Speaker 2: gone in. But you know why else? He wouldn't have

1:26:27 Speaker 2: gone in. Oil prices at forty dollars a barrow wouldn't

1:26:30 Speaker 2: have allowed him, wouldn't have given him the money to

1:26:33 Speaker 2: prosecute that war, wouldn't have given him the money. I

1:26:36 Speaker 2: said it with President I was with President She. I said,

1:26:39 Speaker 2: it was almost the same conversation. With Vladimir. It was Moscow.

1:26:46 Speaker 2: With President she it was Beijing. It was almost the

1:26:50 Speaker 2: exact same conversation. I said, don't do it. He would

1:26:53 Speaker 2: have never done it. The day I left, they flew

1:26:55 Speaker 2: twenty eight bombers over the middle of Taiwan, twenty eight bombers,

1:27:00 Speaker 2: and it's the apple of his eye. And the same

1:27:02 Speaker 2: thing with Russia, it's the apple Ukraine is the apple

1:27:05 Speaker 2: of his eye. I used to talk to me. I

1:27:07 Speaker 2: had a very good relationship with him. He wouldn't have

1:27:10 Speaker 2: done it, he would have never done it. But he

1:27:12 Speaker 2: also wouldn't have done it because of the you know,

1:27:14 Speaker 2: one of the reasons that what happened is number One,

1:27:17 Speaker 2: he doesn't respect by at all, not even a little bit.

1:27:20 Speaker 2: And who the hell would but he doesn't respect him.

1:27:23 Speaker 2: But when he saw what happened in Afghanistan, how horribly

1:27:26 Speaker 2: that was handled. Number One, you take the soldiers out last,

1:27:30 Speaker 2: not first. Okay, that was their big mistake, and we

1:27:33 Speaker 2: had that thing charted out and they weren't obeying us.

1:27:35 Speaker 2: They weren't. Abdul is the head of the Taliban Boom boom.

1:27:40 Speaker 2: He had to do all these things. Some he didn't do.

1:27:42 Speaker 2: I said, nope, you're not doing it. You got to

1:27:44 Speaker 2: do them all. This guy took he immediately took all.

1:27:48 Speaker 2: He left the equipment behind. Thirteen soldiers did, but he

1:27:51 Speaker 2: took everybody out. He took his soldiers out before a

1:27:56 Speaker 2: child would know. That's where Millie was so stupid. He

1:27:58 Speaker 2: was such a stupid guy, Millie. Okay, those generals should

1:28:03 Speaker 2: have o been fired. The afghan the people that were

1:28:06 Speaker 2: involved with Afghanistan should have oben fired. Then they'd be

1:28:10 Speaker 2: writing books about him, how stupid he was and bad

1:28:12 Speaker 2: he was. But you take your soldiers out last. I

1:28:16 Speaker 2: had a big rally and I saw a child in

1:28:19 Speaker 2: the front row about a year and a half ago,

1:28:22 Speaker 2: and I called the child up. I said, you mind

1:28:24 Speaker 2: if I borrow your child? Oh? Yes, please, And they

1:28:27 Speaker 2: came up, kids five years. I gave him a quick details,

1:28:30 Speaker 2: you know, I said, we want to get out of

1:28:32 Speaker 2: this place, and we have this, so we have this,

1:28:34 Speaker 2: and we have the equipment. I gave him a little thing.

1:28:36 Speaker 2: I said, do you take your soldiers out first or last?

1:28:40 Speaker 2: After everything's done, you take them out last, sir, A

1:28:44 Speaker 2: child would know that we took our soldiers out first.

1:28:47 Speaker 2: What you were left and we left the backroom.

1:28:51 Speaker 3: Well, not only that, billions of dollars worth of equipment

1:28:54 Speaker 3: and military vehicles that are use for parades now.

1:28:57 Speaker 2: The best equipment you had to embarrass us them, the

1:29:00 Speaker 2: best equipment in the world.

1:29:01 Speaker 3: The Taliban parade where there it got tanks rolling down

1:29:04 Speaker 3: the streets and black hawks flying is the craziest thing

1:29:06 Speaker 3: I've ever seen. We left, and we left the.

1:29:08 Speaker 2: Best equipment in the world behind.

1:29:11 Speaker 3: What would you have done differently, Well.

1:29:14 Speaker 2: Number one, we would have taken it out, just saying

1:29:16 Speaker 2: go back a little bit further. I had a couple

1:29:19 Speaker 2: of conversations with Abdul and from the time I had

1:29:22 Speaker 2: those conversations because they were shooting our soldiers, you know,

1:29:25 Speaker 2: with the sniper stuff they were shooting. They were shooting

1:29:28 Speaker 2: a lot of them. They were shooting a lot with Obama,

1:29:30 Speaker 2: much less with me, but they were shooting them. And

1:29:33 Speaker 2: I said, get this guy in the phone. The press

1:29:36 Speaker 2: what nuts when they heard this. I had a great

1:29:38 Speaker 2: conversation with It was a tough conversation. Eighteen months later,

1:29:42 Speaker 2: there wasn't one soldier that was ever shot at, And

1:29:45 Speaker 2: even Biden admitted it in a moment of stupidity, because

1:29:48 Speaker 2: he shouldn't admit it. His people were nuts. He said, yeah, well,

1:29:51 Speaker 2: I will admit no soldier. We didn't have a soldier

1:29:54 Speaker 2: killed in eighteen months in Afghanistan. Not one soldier was

1:29:59 Speaker 2: killed because he understood what was going to happen. If

1:30:03 Speaker 2: that happened, I didn't have one. So then when I left,

1:30:07 Speaker 2: after having gotten more votes than any sitting president in

1:30:10 Speaker 2: the history of the country, and much more votes that

1:30:13 Speaker 2: he got in twenty sixteen, when I left, they started

1:30:17 Speaker 2: shooting ourselvesers. But more importantly what they did is they

1:30:22 Speaker 2: did that whole thing with you know, leaving. He shouldn't

1:30:25 Speaker 2: have left. Number one. Should have left from Bargram because

1:30:28 Speaker 2: Bargram's this massive base. It's got tremendous acreage around, a

1:30:32 Speaker 2: tremendous it's a very big. It was built many years ago,

1:30:35 Speaker 2: and part of the reason you wouldn't have taken that

1:30:37 Speaker 2: is because it goes to China, one hour from where

1:30:40 Speaker 2: China makes its nuclear missiles. You should have never left Bargram.

1:30:46 Speaker 2: Number one. They should have left from Bargram. They should

1:30:49 Speaker 2: have left last. They should have gotten you know, we

1:30:52 Speaker 2: have Americans that are still there. They should have taken

1:30:54 Speaker 2: all their equipment out. Everything should every plane, every screw

1:30:58 Speaker 2: should have been taken out, every t And I said

1:31:01 Speaker 2: that That's when I realized that really was a dummy.

1:31:03 Speaker 2: I said, we're leaving, but I want to get everything

1:31:06 Speaker 2: out search cheaper to leave it. I said, what do

1:31:10 Speaker 2: you mean cheaper? Yeah, he said it's cheaper to leave it.

1:31:12 Speaker 2: That was cheaper, cheaper. He said, it's cheaper, sir, not

1:31:15 Speaker 2: more dangerous. He just said cheaper. I said, I want

1:31:19 Speaker 2: every plane, I want every tank, I want the goggles.

1:31:22 Speaker 2: They have night goggles, they have all this stuff that

1:31:24 Speaker 2: these guys now have. He said, sir, it's cheaper to

1:31:27 Speaker 2: get out and leave it. I said, so you think

1:31:30 Speaker 2: it's cheaper to leave one hundred and fifty million dollar

1:31:32 Speaker 2: brand new airplane in there than it is to fly

1:31:35 Speaker 2: it out with a tank of jet fuel and put

1:31:37 Speaker 2: it in Pakistan or just fly it directly back. It's

1:31:41 Speaker 2: cheaper to live. I said, this guy's nuts. I'm telling you.

1:31:44 Speaker 2: He was so stupid. He was so unwise. He was

1:31:47 Speaker 2: like an unwise man. And there were a number of them.

1:31:51 Speaker 2: But I defeated ISIS with the greatest generals. I had

1:31:55 Speaker 2: a guy who was so great. I flew to a

1:31:59 Speaker 2: rack and I met the real generals, not these idiots

1:32:03 Speaker 2: that we deal with, and we knocked out. You know,

1:32:07 Speaker 2: I defeated one hundred percent of the ISIS caliphate. They

1:32:10 Speaker 2: said it would take five years. I did it in

1:32:12 Speaker 2: a manner of a few literally a few weeks, and

1:32:16 Speaker 2: we hit them hard. And he said, said, we're gonna

1:32:19 Speaker 2: hit him here, We're gonna hit him there. We're gonna

1:32:20 Speaker 2: hit him here there. And I said, this guy's great.

1:32:23 Speaker 2: I like this guy. I was told it would take

1:32:26 Speaker 2: five years. That's why I went. I said, how could

1:32:29 Speaker 2: it take five years? We have brand new fighters, We

1:32:31 Speaker 2: have the best planes, the best weapons, the best guns,

1:32:33 Speaker 2: the best bombs. How could it possibly take that long?

1:32:37 Speaker 2: And I flew to I flew and left at three

1:32:42 Speaker 2: o'clock in the morning. Nobody knewere I was going. I

1:32:44 Speaker 2: got an air Force one and we started flying. And

1:32:48 Speaker 2: when we reached about half an hour away from Iraq,

1:32:51 Speaker 2: that was where the airport was, big airport, about a

1:32:54 Speaker 2: half an hour away, they said, sir, I'm sorry, you'll

1:32:57 Speaker 2: have to turn off all your lights. Why getting close

1:33:00 Speaker 2: to our site land, I said, I mean, we spent

1:33:03 Speaker 2: eight trillion dollars or we can't leave the lights. I

1:33:06 Speaker 2: think of this twenty years, eight trillion dollars, and we

1:33:09 Speaker 2: can't leave the lights on in a plane. I said,

1:33:12 Speaker 2: that's okay, turn the lights on. I'm not going to

1:33:14 Speaker 2: fight them to this one.

1:33:15 Speaker 3: This is because it's too dangerous.

1:33:16 Speaker 2: It's too dangerous because they see the light up in

1:33:18 Speaker 2: the you know, so I said, turn the lights. So

1:33:23 Speaker 2: then they said, so we're can also pull your shades off.

1:33:25 Speaker 2: That's okay. I said, that's okay. The plane was pitch black.

1:33:28 Speaker 2: All the lights outside, you know, the blinking, the blinking reds,

1:33:32 Speaker 2: they were all turned off. And I like to sit

1:33:35 Speaker 2: with pilots a lot of times, and these guys are specimens.

1:33:37 Speaker 2: I always say, they're better looking than Tom Cruise, okay,

1:33:43 Speaker 2: and they're even taller, like perfect specimens. These guys, Like

1:33:48 Speaker 2: for a fighter, you know, you have some guys that

1:33:49 Speaker 2: are perfect specimen. And you know they picked they picked

1:33:53 Speaker 2: the best pilots in the Air Force United States Air

1:33:55 Speaker 2: Force to fly Air Force one. And I get up

1:33:58 Speaker 2: there and I'm sitting and I'm feeling my way up.

1:34:03 Speaker 2: You know it's up. I cast seven forty seven, so

1:34:04 Speaker 2: you go through the stairs. But I sort of knew

1:34:06 Speaker 2: my way up. There wasn't a light in the planet.

1:34:09 Speaker 2: I'm saying, can you imagine we spent trillions of dollars

1:34:13 Speaker 2: and we're trying to fly in blind. But I got

1:34:17 Speaker 2: into the planet the cockpit is dark, black, little tiny light.

1:34:20 Speaker 2: You could see the pilot, a perfect looking human being,

1:34:24 Speaker 2: his coat, pilot, everybody was perfect. They were all like

1:34:26 Speaker 2: movie stars. You know. It's like I could have cast

1:34:28 Speaker 2: a movie with these guys and nobody would believe it

1:34:30 Speaker 2: because they were too good looking. So I said, how

1:34:34 Speaker 2: are we doing? So there will be landing in ten

1:34:36 Speaker 2: minutes and I look outside. There's not a light, and

1:34:39 Speaker 2: I'm you know, I've landed a lot of planes and

1:34:42 Speaker 2: you see like little lights. At least there's nothing. It's

1:34:46 Speaker 2: just pure desert. And I said, okay, captain. Good but

1:34:51 Speaker 2: I'm looking. Now where did you've been in many plants

1:34:54 Speaker 2: where it has the computer? So I'm saying one thousand

1:34:56 Speaker 2: feet nine goes one thousand, eight hundred. It's a computer voice,

1:35:03 Speaker 2: but it sounds like but it's an incredible voice seven hundred.

1:35:07 Speaker 2: I said, captain, Are we okay? I'm looking? Are we okay? Captain?

1:35:11 Speaker 2: There's no lights and I'm looking, you know, normally when

1:35:14 Speaker 2: you land upon Because I sit with loss a lot,

1:35:16 Speaker 2: I think it's great. I think it's a great profession.

1:35:18 Speaker 2: Everything it's They're incredible. These machines are gud. You said

1:35:22 Speaker 2: sir We're fine, no problem, sir, I said, you know,

1:35:26 Speaker 2: I don't see the lights up there. Captain. Sure, we're okay,

1:35:30 Speaker 2: you know, so I mean I'm exaggerating a little bit.

1:35:32 Speaker 2: You know. Probably probably with exaggerating will tell the story

1:35:35 Speaker 2: they say Trump was a coward. So I'm sitting with

1:35:38 Speaker 2: the use five hundred and I'm telling you there wasn't

1:35:42 Speaker 2: a light on the runway, nothing, And we're going in

1:35:48 Speaker 2: you okay, Captain, Everything good, yes, sir, no problem. We'll

1:35:51 Speaker 2: be down at about one minute, sir. And I'm telling you, Joe,

1:35:56 Speaker 2: you know there's always a light. There's not a little

1:35:58 Speaker 2: pin and all of a suddensh and you hear it,

1:36:02 Speaker 2: wah woah, perfect land. They like glass. That's how good

1:36:06 Speaker 2: I mean, these guys between the equipment and it's genius.

1:36:09 Speaker 2: It was so dark you couldn't see a thing. There

1:36:13 Speaker 2: was no runway. You wouldn't know where the hell you're

1:36:16 Speaker 2: here in the middle of the desert. And then I

1:36:18 Speaker 2: got out of the plane. I said, thank you, captain,

1:36:20 Speaker 2: it's a great job. Then I get out of the

1:36:22 Speaker 2: plane and I'm going down and I see a general

1:36:26 Speaker 2: and another general, and I see a staff sergeant, a

1:36:29 Speaker 2: drill sergeant and the various guys all central casting, Central casting.

1:36:37 Speaker 2: They said, sir, would you like to rest? I said,

1:36:39 Speaker 2: I don't want to rest. I wanted to figure out

1:36:40 Speaker 2: what the hell are we doing with ISIS. I'm here.

1:36:42 Speaker 2: We can't it's gonna take years. No, sir, we can

1:36:46 Speaker 2: do it very quickly, sir. And anyway, we go into

1:36:49 Speaker 2: the room we're going. I mean Biden would have taken

1:36:51 Speaker 2: a nap for four days and then left without a meeting.

1:36:54 Speaker 2: So we go into the room and they have these guys.

1:36:58 Speaker 2: I say, how long can you do it? How long

1:37:00 Speaker 2: we can do it in a couple of weeks there

1:37:02 Speaker 2: they said, wait a minute. They told me five years

1:37:04 Speaker 2: we can do it, and he gave me a number

1:37:07 Speaker 2: like just like in no time. I said, why haven't

1:37:12 Speaker 2: you done it? Because the orders came in from Washington, sir,

1:37:16 Speaker 2: and they would come here and tell us what to do.

1:37:18 Speaker 2: Don't you challenge us. We're not allowed to do that, sir.

1:37:21 Speaker 2: That's not the military way. They tell us what to

1:37:23 Speaker 2: do and we have to respect them.

1:37:25 Speaker 3: So do you think that it was incompetence why they

1:37:27 Speaker 3: didn't go after ISIS.

1:37:29 Speaker 2: I think it's a bad system. You know, when Madis

1:37:31 Speaker 2: goes there or when Millie goes there, who's stupid And

1:37:34 Speaker 2: they tell these guys that are actually smart what to do,

1:37:37 Speaker 2: and the guys that are smart are saying, we don't

1:37:39 Speaker 2: like what they're doing, but they're not allowed to sort

1:37:42 Speaker 2: of counteract. Plus, the guys that went there are arrogant.

1:37:45 Speaker 2: You know, they're arrogant fools. They're like stupid fools. The

1:37:49 Speaker 2: way they pulled out of you know, the way they

1:37:51 Speaker 2: as an example, the way they pulled out of Afghanistan

1:37:54 Speaker 2: with the people falling off the plane so also it

1:37:57 Speaker 2: was so it was it was worse than Vietnam with

1:38:00 Speaker 2: the helicopters followed them. It was so bad. There was

1:38:03 Speaker 2: no reason for it anyway. So we knocked them out.

1:38:06 Speaker 2: And I mean, we have great military, we have great people,

1:38:10 Speaker 2: but not the television guys. And I rebuilt the military,

1:38:14 Speaker 2: and then they gave a chunk of it. Now I

1:38:16 Speaker 2: have to tell, as much as it is, it's a

1:38:18 Speaker 2: tiny little piece, believe it or not, we have an

1:38:21 Speaker 2: unbelievable I rebuilt the military. I rebuilt our nuclear and

1:38:26 Speaker 2: in a way I hated to redo it, but I

1:38:27 Speaker 2: got to realize how powerful that nuclear is Joe, one bomb,

1:38:34 Speaker 2: Israel was gone, but forget one bomb could take out

1:38:37 Speaker 2: the entire East coast. It's so bad. And I watched

1:38:41 Speaker 2: these poor fools talking about our oceans will rise one

1:38:45 Speaker 2: eighth of an inch over the next five hundred years.

1:38:48 Speaker 2: I mean, we have people, we have countries right now,

1:38:51 Speaker 2: you have five countries, and don't underestimate North North if

1:38:56 Speaker 2: you take a look at North Korea. Then I was there.

1:39:00 Speaker 2: I mean I was with Kim John. I had a

1:39:01 Speaker 2: great really, I got along great with him. You know

1:39:03 Speaker 2: the presses. He got along good. That's a good thing.

1:39:05 Speaker 2: It's not a bad I think it's a great thing.

1:39:08 Speaker 2: Obama thought we were going to go to war with

1:39:10 Speaker 2: North Korea. When I met with Obama just prior to

1:39:12 Speaker 2: the takeoff. You know, you meet, you have it's a

1:39:14 Speaker 2: sort of a ceremonial meeting. But it lasted a long time,

1:39:18 Speaker 2: a lot longer than it was supposed to last. I said,

1:39:20 Speaker 2: what's the biggest problem? He said, North Korea. By the

1:39:23 Speaker 2: time I finished, I was we would had no problem

1:39:26 Speaker 2: with North Korea. We were really it was a little

1:39:28 Speaker 2: tough at the beginning. Remember m hm. He said, I

1:39:32 Speaker 2: have a red button on my desk. I said, I

1:39:34 Speaker 2: have a red button also, but mine's bigger than yours

1:39:37 Speaker 2: and mine works.

1:39:38 Speaker 3: I liked how you call them little rocket man, I said.

1:39:40 Speaker 2: I said, yeah, a little rocket. I said, little rocket man,

1:39:43 Speaker 2: you're going to burn in hell. And it was a

1:39:45 Speaker 2: rough yeah, oh so rough that people were worried. This

1:39:48 Speaker 2: is crazy. And then one day I got a call

1:39:51 Speaker 2: sort of like a fight. I got a call. You know,

1:39:53 Speaker 2: you ever see pounding and then all of a sudden,

1:39:56 Speaker 2: but I got a call and it was from him,

1:39:59 Speaker 2: meaning his people. They wanted to meet. They wouldn't meet Obama.

1:40:04 Speaker 2: He tried to meet. They wouldn't even talk to him

1:40:05 Speaker 2: about it. And I think he expected to go to war.

1:40:09 Speaker 2: I actually do. I believe he expected to go. And

1:40:12 Speaker 2: we checked their nuclear stock. But it is substantial. I mean,

1:40:15 Speaker 2: it's that's I said, do you do anything? I got

1:40:17 Speaker 2: to know him very well. I got to know him

1:40:19 Speaker 2: better than anybody anybody, And I said, do you ever

1:40:23 Speaker 2: do anything else? Why don't you go take it easy

1:40:25 Speaker 2: and relax, Go to the beach. You have beautiful beach,

1:40:28 Speaker 2: nice beach, fun property, you know. Kiddingly, I said, you're

1:40:31 Speaker 2: always building nuclear Just relax, you don't have to do it.

1:40:35 Speaker 2: Let's build some condos on your shoreline. They actually have

1:40:37 Speaker 2: gorgeous stuff. And he said, I just have to do

1:40:41 Speaker 2: it because I needed for my safety. It said. I

1:40:44 Speaker 2: got to know him very well. We had no problem

1:40:46 Speaker 2: with him. If you have a smart problem, if you

1:40:48 Speaker 2: have a smart really the right president, the smart president,

1:40:53 Speaker 2: you're not going to have a problem. And I say

1:40:55 Speaker 2: it to people, we have a bigger problem, in my opinion,

1:40:58 Speaker 2: with the enemy from within. And it drives them crazy

1:41:01 Speaker 2: when I use that term. But we have an enemy

1:41:03 Speaker 2: from within. We have people that are really bad, people

1:41:07 Speaker 2: that I really think want to make this country unsuccessful.

1:41:11 Speaker 2: When you look at what's happening at our border, Joe,

1:41:13 Speaker 2: when you have people coming in that when other countries

1:41:16 Speaker 2: are allowed to empty their prisons into our country with murderers.

1:41:21 Speaker 2: We had thirteen thousand and ninety nine murderers dropped in

1:41:24 Speaker 2: our country over the last three years.

1:41:27 Speaker 3: And fifteen thousand rapists, convicted.

1:41:29 Speaker 2: Rapists, drug dealers, drug lords, just the pars correct people

1:41:36 Speaker 2: from mental institutions.

1:41:38 Speaker 3: What do you think this one?

1:41:39 Speaker 2: Hundreds are Joe, hundreds of thousands of major criminals tougher

1:41:44 Speaker 2: and worse than anybody. We have these.

1:41:47 Speaker 3: We're seeing the consequences of it. In San Antonio, they've

1:41:49 Speaker 3: taken over apartment buildings. In Aurora, Colorado, they take their

1:41:52 Speaker 3: more apartment buildings, these venezuelan and gangs. At the beginning,

1:41:55 Speaker 3: what do you think the strategy is? You know, one

1:41:59 Speaker 3: of the things that they've said is that you stopped

1:42:02 Speaker 3: a bill from being passed, But didn't that bill also

1:42:06 Speaker 3: include amnesty for the people that already hear?

1:42:09 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is years after the fact. The damage was

1:42:12 Speaker 2: already done.

1:42:13 Speaker 3: But what was the bill when the bill was the problem?

1:42:15 Speaker 2: It allowed two million people and they were going to

1:42:18 Speaker 2: get amnesty. It was a horrible bill. It didn't protect

1:42:22 Speaker 2: us at all.

1:42:23 Speaker 3: But we should just tell people what the strategy is.

1:42:25 Speaker 3: So one of the things their strategy, one of the

1:42:28 Speaker 3: things that's been very clear is that they've moved a

1:42:31 Speaker 3: large percentage of these migrants they're coming across the border illegally.

1:42:35 Speaker 3: They've moved them to swing states. This is what's going

1:42:39 Speaker 3: on in Springfield, Ohio.

1:42:40 Speaker 2: Right in swing states. Well, that's not a swing stead.

1:42:43 Speaker 2: I'm going to win Ohio by a lot, so that's

1:42:45 Speaker 2: that swing. But it's called Springfield, Ohio. To be exactly,

1:42:48 Speaker 2: and Springfield, Ohio, is this very nice community of fifty

1:42:53 Speaker 2: two thousand people that just had thirty two thousand migrants

1:42:59 Speaker 2: that don't speak the language dropped into their community. You

1:43:03 Speaker 2: can't get into a hospital, you can't get into a school.

1:43:06 Speaker 2: It's gone from a beautiful little place to a horror show.

1:43:11 Speaker 2: And the mayor is a nice guy. And the mayor says,

1:43:14 Speaker 2: we're looking for interpreters. I said, no, you've got to

1:43:18 Speaker 2: remove them and bring them back to their country, mostly

1:43:20 Speaker 2: Haitians in this case. But they speak no they speak

1:43:23 Speaker 2: no language, they speak no Englishmen. In fact, even the

1:43:27 Speaker 2: language they do speak, it's I mean, they can't get interpreters,

1:43:30 Speaker 2: they can't do anything. And the mayor's trying to be

1:43:32 Speaker 2: politically correct. They're all trying to be In Aurora, Colorado,

1:43:36 Speaker 2: you have the worst, probably the worst gang, MS thirteen

1:43:40 Speaker 2: might even be. You know, those two are the worst gangs.

1:43:42 Speaker 2: These are Venezuela gangs. They have taken over apartment complexes

1:43:47 Speaker 2: and they're going to want to take over the whole thing.

1:43:49 Speaker 2: And you have a weak governor, pathetic governor who's a

1:43:53 Speaker 2: radical left Democrat. He doesn't know what the hell to do.

1:43:57 Speaker 2: But you have it in many other communities, but they

1:43:58 Speaker 2: don't like to talk about it because because it's you know,

1:44:00 Speaker 2: it's bad for the community to talk about it. These

1:44:03 Speaker 2: people have been let in here by this imbecile. She's

1:44:09 Speaker 2: I mean, she's a low IQ person, low IQ.

1:44:13 Speaker 3: But it's also it's obviously not just herre's there's a strategy.

1:44:18 Speaker 2: In charge of the border.

1:44:19 Speaker 3: Well she's in charge of the border. But they also

1:44:21 Speaker 3: they utilize that app, the app that used to be used.

1:44:25 Speaker 3: It used to be used I think essentially, wasn't it

1:44:27 Speaker 3: for shipping? Wasn't it when people were in this country?

1:44:30 Speaker 2: It was used for shipping? And now it's used to

1:44:32 Speaker 2: deal with the cartels, the cartel heads of the cartel,

1:44:36 Speaker 2: rich people, by the way, these are loaded. These people

1:44:39 Speaker 2: have so much money. They would call up think of this.

1:44:42 Speaker 2: They call up the app and the app tells them

1:44:45 Speaker 2: where they should take their load of illegal migrants from

1:44:50 Speaker 2: the Congo. You know, we have a lot from the

1:44:52 Speaker 2: Congo prisons in the Congo. I made a little bit

1:44:57 Speaker 2: of a sarcastic joke. A man named Dana White, who

1:44:59 Speaker 2: you love? Who I love? I assume you love? I

1:45:01 Speaker 2: think I think he's in a class by me.

1:45:04 Speaker 3: He's probably the reason why you're here. I don't know,

1:45:08 Speaker 3: maybe he's one of the big ones.

1:45:10 Speaker 2: He is the greatest guy.

1:45:12 Speaker 3: You know.

1:45:12 Speaker 2: I always say, every nobody's indispensable. You know, everybody can

1:45:16 Speaker 2: be replaced. Maybe you can't be, you might not be.

1:45:19 Speaker 2: But they know what truly, I don't think you know

1:45:22 Speaker 2: the things they sort of for four billion. I said,

1:45:24 Speaker 2: what a herald. Who the hell is going to pay

1:45:27 Speaker 2: four billion? And they made it like a great deal.

1:45:30 Speaker 2: I mean, because take him out. I think it's all different.

1:45:34 Speaker 2: He's the best, and he's also the greatest guy. He

1:45:37 Speaker 2: spoke at the whole thing with you know, I had

1:45:40 Speaker 2: just been shot and he got up and he spoke

1:45:42 Speaker 2: so better than anybody. I mean, who would be better

1:45:45 Speaker 2: to introduce you? I asked of all the people, and

1:45:48 Speaker 2: I know, the biggest people in the world, and they

1:45:50 Speaker 2: all would have loved to have done it. I said, Dana,

1:45:52 Speaker 2: would you do it? You know? It was interesting he

1:45:54 Speaker 2: was away and he said to the people that, you know,

1:45:57 Speaker 2: one of my guys called. He said, I won't be

1:46:00 Speaker 2: able to do it. I'm sure had just left with

1:46:02 Speaker 2: my wife and family. Well, I said, he said, no, Yeah.

1:46:05 Speaker 2: I was a little surprised, even though I knew he

1:46:07 Speaker 2: was very far away. He was in some place, you know,

1:46:09 Speaker 2: and he deserved it with his family, you know, the

1:46:12 Speaker 2: all things. And then I said, all right, and I said,

1:46:15 Speaker 2: we'll look at who are we going to get? And

1:46:17 Speaker 2: all of a sudden she comes in, Sir Dana White

1:46:19 Speaker 2: just said he's going to do it and he's coming

1:46:21 Speaker 2: back in tonight. He's taking But you know, the guy

1:46:24 Speaker 2: is just an incredible guy, and he's like a tough

1:46:28 Speaker 2: champion but loyal. Yeah, he's got to be one of

1:46:31 Speaker 2: your favorite people. He's one of my favorite people.

1:46:33 Speaker 3: I've been friends with him for twenty three years.

1:46:36 Speaker 2: I love him. So would you have? Because you're what

1:46:39 Speaker 2: you're doing here is incredible. I mean, everybody tells me, well,

1:46:42 Speaker 2: I know is today I'm going you know you're on

1:46:44 Speaker 2: Joe Rogan take. People are telling me, like I said,

1:46:47 Speaker 2: I say, how to help you know that? But it's

1:46:50 Speaker 2: it's sort of what you've done here is amazing. Where

1:46:53 Speaker 2: would you be if you didn't do the UFC stuff?

1:46:55 Speaker 2: Would you have this show? Do you think?

1:46:56 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll still be doing it for sure.

1:46:58 Speaker 2: Yeah. Would it be at the same would it be

1:46:59 Speaker 2: at the same? I don't know, but you would have.

1:47:02 Speaker 3: It's hard to know. I think, you know. One of

1:47:04 Speaker 3: the things that works for this show, I guess is

1:47:06 Speaker 3: that I'm involved in so many different things, you know,

1:47:09 Speaker 3: stand up comedy, UFC and all the interests that I

1:47:12 Speaker 3: have that lead to the podcast.

1:47:14 Speaker 2: Well you always want to do you first of all,

1:47:16 Speaker 2: you love UFC.

1:47:17 Speaker 3: I love it.

1:47:17 Speaker 2: Yeah, you love the fights. I mean I watched you

1:47:19 Speaker 2: you I love it. They could pay you nothing, it'd

1:47:22 Speaker 2: be verat.

1:47:22 Speaker 3: They didn't pay me anything for the first like thirteen shows.

1:47:24 Speaker 3: I did it for free because they were hemorrhaging money.

1:47:27 Speaker 3: And I became friends with Dana, and my my position was,

1:47:30 Speaker 3: you're gonna give me the best seat in the house.

1:47:32 Speaker 3: I get to sit cage side for the fights, I'll

1:47:35 Speaker 3: do it. And I wanted to help. I was like,

1:47:37 Speaker 3: I think these are the guys that we had always

1:47:39 Speaker 3: hoped for in those early days of the sport. I

1:47:41 Speaker 3: started working for the company in nineteen ninety seven. I

1:47:44 Speaker 3: was the before the UFC was purchased by Zufo, which

1:47:46 Speaker 3: Dana worked for, so I was a part of the

1:47:48 Speaker 3: previous owners and I only did it for a couple

1:47:51 Speaker 3: of years. It was just too much, and I was

1:47:52 Speaker 3: losing money, and it was banned from cable because of

1:47:55 Speaker 3: Budweiser and John McCain and you can only get it

1:47:58 Speaker 3: on during TV and.

1:47:59 Speaker 2: So and then I came along and I gave him

1:48:01 Speaker 2: the sights and he never forgot it.

1:48:04 Speaker 3: He loves you.

1:48:06 Speaker 2: Just interrupted for one so they couldn't get a sight

1:48:09 Speaker 2: because it was too dangerous and everybody was against it,

1:48:12 Speaker 2: and they couldn't get license. And I gave him the

1:48:15 Speaker 2: first two or three sites, yep, and they were great.

1:48:18 Speaker 2: And by the way I went to the first fight,

1:48:20 Speaker 2: I said, I never saw anything like this. It was crazy.

1:48:23 Speaker 2: It was so good. Take the best fight you've ever

1:48:25 Speaker 2: It was like that fight, right, It was so good

1:48:28 Speaker 2: that it gave it to me again. Get and all

1:48:29 Speaker 2: of a sudden they caught on. But you know, when

1:48:32 Speaker 2: I wasn't in vogue, you know, I've had time. You

1:48:35 Speaker 2: probably never had a time, But I had times when

1:48:37 Speaker 2: I wasn't exactly in vogue. Dana, they called him. He said,

1:48:41 Speaker 2: he's the greatest guy. There's nobody like he said. I'll

1:48:45 Speaker 2: never say anything bad about that guy. Because when I

1:48:48 Speaker 2: needed because they were having a hard time at the beginning,

1:48:50 Speaker 2: they once pulled the plug a couple of times, right,

1:48:53 Speaker 2: he said, he stood up and he gave us stuff

1:48:55 Speaker 2: that nobody else gave us, and nobody wanted anything to do.

1:48:59 Speaker 2: And I will never And there was a time where

1:49:03 Speaker 2: it would have been very popular for him to say

1:49:05 Speaker 2: bad stuff about me. He said the greatest stuff about me.

1:49:09 Speaker 2: He said, you're gonna try and get me to say

1:49:10 Speaker 2: bad stuff about Trump. I'm never doing it. No, He's

1:49:13 Speaker 2: an un guy, very unusual guy. He's a fantastic, a perfect.

1:49:17 Speaker 3: Guy to be at the helm of something so controversial

1:49:20 Speaker 3: as the UFC.

1:49:21 Speaker 2: Less controversial now, well, now it's huge.

1:49:23 Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, this was always the thing that I would

1:49:25 Speaker 3: hope that it would be. I always knew that it

1:49:27 Speaker 3: was unbelievably entertaining, but I just didn't know if maybe

1:49:29 Speaker 3: I was crazy. Maybe I loved it because I've had

1:49:32 Speaker 3: this long history of being involved in martial arts, and maybe,

1:49:35 Speaker 3: like other people just think it's too violent.

1:49:37 Speaker 2: But can boxing make it?

1:49:39 Speaker 3: Yeah? Boxing is still a great sport.

1:49:41 Speaker 2: I love boxing, but it seems to be so unimportant

1:49:45 Speaker 2: now by comparison to UFC, don't you think.

1:49:47 Speaker 3: I think? Well, you know, Dana is working with the

1:49:50 Speaker 3: Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, they're gonna be promoting boxing now,

1:49:54 Speaker 3: and with Dana at the helm of it, I think

1:49:56 Speaker 3: boxing can return because the thing is they want to

1:49:59 Speaker 3: make fights that other maybe you know, promoters don't want

1:50:03 Speaker 3: to make because they want to protect their fighter, controversial

1:50:05 Speaker 3: fights where you know it's dangerous, like you don't know,

1:50:07 Speaker 3: this guy could lose. And so the Saudi's they're smart.

1:50:10 Speaker 3: They just offer a tremendous amount of money and they're

1:50:13 Speaker 3: putting together fighter fights that no one else can put together.

1:50:15 Speaker 3: They're doing that in boxing.

1:50:17 Speaker 2: If Dana's involved, they'll probably make it good. You know.

1:50:20 Speaker 2: The amazing thing though, the in fighting, no UFC fighter,

1:50:24 Speaker 2: they say, has ever died, and it looks to be

1:50:27 Speaker 2: much more violent than bucks many boxes have died. Isn't

1:50:30 Speaker 2: it interesting? And Dana tells me because they take so

1:50:32 Speaker 2: many shots to the face.

1:50:34 Speaker 3: Yes, And there's also no other options to preserve yourself,

1:50:37 Speaker 3: to protect yourself. So if you get hit in a

1:50:38 Speaker 3: UFC fight, you can clinch, you can try to take

1:50:41 Speaker 3: the fight to the ground. You get options. Also, you

1:50:43 Speaker 3: don't get allowed to get knocked down and then get

1:50:45 Speaker 3: back up. When you get knocked down, you're concussed and generally,

1:50:48 Speaker 3: you know, if a guy's really hurt, they could be

1:50:50 Speaker 3: finished on the ground and the fight's over. If it's boxing,

1:50:54 Speaker 3: you have ten seconds to get up. You get up,

1:50:57 Speaker 3: your head kind of clears you're still in bad trouble,

1:51:00 Speaker 3: and then you can kind of run away and survive

1:51:02 Speaker 3: until the bell rings. There are only three minute rounds

1:51:05 Speaker 3: and then you start again, so you're getting repeated punishment

1:51:07 Speaker 3: to the head, you know. And then there's also the

1:51:10 Speaker 3: issue of guys weight cutting, you know, which is a

1:51:12 Speaker 3: problem with the UFC as well. But weightcutting and boxing

1:51:15 Speaker 3: has led to if you look at deaths in boxing,

1:51:17 Speaker 3: there's very few of them in the heavyweight division. Most

1:51:20 Speaker 3: of the deaths in boxing are the lightweight divisions because

1:51:22 Speaker 3: when guys dehydrate themselves to lose to lose weight to

1:51:25 Speaker 3: make weight, their brain is the last thing that gets rehydrated.

1:51:29 Speaker 3: Like it's very difficult to completely hydrate your brain quickly,

1:51:34 Speaker 3: and you only have twenty four hours between the weigh

1:51:36 Speaker 3: and and the fight. And it used to be the

1:51:38 Speaker 3: weigh ins were the day of the fight, like when

1:51:41 Speaker 3: Boom Boom Mancini had a fight with Duck Hu Kim

1:51:43 Speaker 3: and killed him in the ring, which is one of

1:51:45 Speaker 3: the last ones on television that we've seen. That was

1:51:48 Speaker 3: a crazy event for people and heartbreaking, and it led

1:51:51 Speaker 3: to a bunch of different changes, and one of them

1:51:52 Speaker 3: is day before weighans to allow people to rehydrate better.

1:51:56 Speaker 3: And the other one is they dropped it from fifteen

1:51:57 Speaker 3: rounds down to twelve.

1:52:00 Speaker 2: Look, they should do that. I get you know, I'm

1:52:01 Speaker 2: not I'm not the fighter, so but those fifteen round

1:52:05 Speaker 2: fights were unbelieved.

1:52:05 Speaker 3: They were unbelievable.

1:52:07 Speaker 2: Yeah, in terms of Golden Age, Yeah, in terms of entertainment,

1:52:11 Speaker 2: oh yeah, those were the championship reps, those were the

1:52:14 Speaker 2: greatest fights.

1:52:15 Speaker 3: Those last three rounds were crazy. I mean, it's such

1:52:18 Speaker 3: a war of attrition. You know, a lot of people

1:52:20 Speaker 3: think even like a five round UFC fight, The UFC

1:52:23 Speaker 3: is five minute rounds. It's so much energy you're burning out.

1:52:26 Speaker 3: And those last couple of rounds, those five round fights,

1:52:29 Speaker 3: the fourth and the fifth round unbelievably brutal.

1:52:32 Speaker 2: Who's the greatest UFC fighter? And are you allowed to

1:52:34 Speaker 2: say in your opinion? It's tough for you to say

1:52:36 Speaker 2: because you do this, but who do you think is

1:52:38 Speaker 2: the greatest.

1:52:39 Speaker 3: Of the fighters there's there's a lot of arguments for

1:52:42 Speaker 3: who's the greatest of all time. You know, John Jones,

1:52:46 Speaker 3: most people would say it's the greatest of all time,

1:52:48 Speaker 3: never lost. Uh it's there's certainly a really good argument

1:52:52 Speaker 3: for that. There's another argument for George Saint Pierre. I

1:52:55 Speaker 3: always leave in BJ Penn in his prime, Anderson Silva

1:52:58 Speaker 3: in his prime. You know, Mighty Mouse. People forget about

1:53:02 Speaker 3: Mighty Mouse because unfortunately he's a smaller guy. It's one

1:53:04 Speaker 3: hundred and twenty five pounds flyweight champion. He's one of

1:53:07 Speaker 3: the greatest expressions of mixed martial arts I've ever seen,

1:53:10 Speaker 3: I think to this day, and was fantastic. But if

1:53:14 Speaker 3: you looked at the accomplishments in terms of championship fights,

1:53:17 Speaker 3: kuld be retired twenty nine and zero, but he didn't.

1:53:19 Speaker 2: Have probably never lost around.

1:53:22 Speaker 3: They might have lost to Glason Tebow. He might have

1:53:25 Speaker 3: lost to him. He might have lost a round. And

1:53:27 Speaker 3: that was a controversial fight where people think that Glason

1:53:30 Speaker 3: Teabow could have even got the decision in that fight.

1:53:32 Speaker 3: I'd have to go back and watch it again to

1:53:33 Speaker 3: make a decision. But uh, oh, the best athletes in

1:53:37 Speaker 3: the world and the most dangerous sport in terms of

1:53:41 Speaker 3: like it's I always call it high level problem solving

1:53:45 Speaker 3: with dire physical consequence. That's what fighting is, you know,

1:53:48 Speaker 3: I'll never forget.

1:53:50 Speaker 2: So there was a fighter named James Tony.

1:53:52 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I love James Tony.

1:53:54 Speaker 2: He thought as a very light fighter and he ended

1:53:56 Speaker 2: up as a heavyweight. And this guy went through everything.

1:53:58 Speaker 2: He was almost like a light eight.

1:54:00 Speaker 3: He went from middleweight all the way up to heavyweight.

1:54:02 Speaker 2: Yeah, and heavyweight and he was a real fighter. Oh yeah,

1:54:06 Speaker 2: so James Tony and I think it was uh say, George,

1:54:11 Speaker 2: George Saint Pierre, Saint Pierre, I think it was him.

1:54:14 Speaker 2: Who did he fight James Tony.

1:54:16 Speaker 3: No, James Tony didn't fight George.

1:54:18 Speaker 2: He fought a UFC fight.

1:54:19 Speaker 3: Yeah, Randy Cotur fought James Tony was but that was

1:54:22 Speaker 3: like an easy fight. That was a very easy fight.

1:54:24 Speaker 3: Randy co George just took him down.

1:54:26 Speaker 2: And it was the most and he's half the size

1:54:28 Speaker 2: and he just once he got to the end because

1:54:31 Speaker 2: back then just said it's over yea.

1:54:33 Speaker 3: And he put him. He took him down, mounted them

1:54:35 Speaker 3: strangled him.

1:54:36 Speaker 2: And James he was but he was talking big because

1:54:38 Speaker 2: he was much bigger.

1:54:39 Speaker 3: He was a pretty big James just wanted to make

1:54:41 Speaker 3: some money and you.

1:54:41 Speaker 2: Think so, Yeah, I never forgot it. It was it

1:54:44 Speaker 2: was over very quickly and he was lying sleeping on

1:54:47 Speaker 2: the mat and he was talking, you know, he was

1:54:49 Speaker 2: doing the Muhammad all this stuff. But it didn't work out.

1:54:51 Speaker 3: But I remember the fight.

1:54:52 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was co tour.

1:54:53 Speaker 3: Probably George never fought a boxer in an m M

1:54:57 Speaker 3: A fight. If he did, he would kill them. Was

1:54:59 Speaker 3: he was one of the greatest, Yes, unquestionably, that's the argument.

1:55:03 Speaker 3: There's like a handful of guys you can make the argument,

1:55:05 Speaker 3: is the greatest of all time. People forget about Anderson

1:55:07 Speaker 3: Silva in his prime he was unstoppable. It's but that's

1:55:10 Speaker 3: the thing in this fatal or a million inco who

1:55:13 Speaker 3: fought Pride in his prime, he was unstoppable. There's there's

1:55:16 Speaker 3: this and you have a couple now that Oh we've

1:55:18 Speaker 3: got so many Now Alex Pereira's there's an argument that

1:55:21 Speaker 3: he's the Yeah, he's unbelievable, but it's like fighters can

1:55:27 Speaker 3: only compete at that level for so many years, and

1:55:30 Speaker 3: so my opinion, you have to judge them at their

1:55:32 Speaker 3: very peak. You can't judge them when they're hanging on

1:55:35 Speaker 3: and still fighting. You can't judge them when they're coming up.

1:55:37 Speaker 3: You got to judge them in that championship peak, and

1:55:41 Speaker 3: that championship peak. There's a handful of guys that you

1:55:43 Speaker 3: would consider at the very time.

1:55:45 Speaker 2: If they stopped a little bit sooner. Yeah, some of

1:55:48 Speaker 2: them would have had, you know. I mean there are

1:55:50 Speaker 2: a couple of that you just mentioned without mentioning names.

1:55:52 Speaker 2: And they stopped at the perfect they were unbelievable, and

1:55:55 Speaker 2: then at a certain age they start getting knocked out.

1:55:58 Speaker 3: Right, Yes, it's unfortunate, But the thing is that same

1:56:01 Speaker 3: belief in themselves that lets them become a champion makes

1:56:04 Speaker 3: them think that they can do it long past the

1:56:06 Speaker 3: time that they actually can.

1:56:07 Speaker 2: Well, Anderson Silver was essentially unbeatable, and then he lost

1:56:11 Speaker 2: a Class one.

1:56:11 Speaker 3: Then all of a sudden he got knocked out. He

1:56:13 Speaker 3: got knocked out by Chris Widman. He was kind of

1:56:15 Speaker 3: clowning in that fight famously, and clicked. Chris Widman had

1:56:18 Speaker 3: a vicious left hook, knocked him out, and then they

1:56:21 Speaker 3: fought a second time and he broke his leg on

1:56:23 Speaker 3: Chris Widman. And after that fight he was kind of

1:56:26 Speaker 3: never the same because that leg break injury which Connor

1:56:30 Speaker 3: McGregor had, there's quite a few fighters there. Wyman actually

1:56:33 Speaker 3: wound up having the same injury. Ironically, it's only been

1:56:36 Speaker 3: like it because you can't never the same. Well, you can.

1:56:39 Speaker 3: Widman is still kicking with that leg, you can, but

1:56:42 Speaker 3: psychologically when you throw a kick and your leg snaps

1:56:45 Speaker 3: in half and you're in agony for a year, right,

1:56:48 Speaker 3: you have to get surgery. You have to get bolts

1:56:49 Speaker 3: and plates to keep your leg together, and then it

1:56:52 Speaker 3: takes forever for it to heal.

1:56:54 Speaker 2: It always amazed me how the kicker, I mean, you

1:56:57 Speaker 2: have those cases. But the kicker will do tremendous damage

1:57:00 Speaker 2: to somebody's leg, but their leg doesn't seem to get damage,

1:57:03 Speaker 2: isn't it.

1:57:04 Speaker 3: It does get damaged. It hurts more than you. Yeah,

1:57:06 Speaker 3: but your shin, Your shin gets very numb after a while.

1:57:10 Speaker 3: And guys that are really good kickers, they're kicking the

1:57:12 Speaker 3: thigh and they're kicking the kicking. They're kicking soft areas

1:57:16 Speaker 3: and they're slamming this hard numb shin. Their shin gets

1:57:20 Speaker 3: all these like micro fractures all over the shin and

1:57:23 Speaker 3: it calcifies, like these guys can kick baseball bats. They

1:57:26 Speaker 3: ever seem to break baseball bats with their shins. It's crazy.

1:57:29 Speaker 3: Some guys can do two baseball bats. Someone to hold

1:57:31 Speaker 3: the baseball bat and they just kick right through them.

1:57:35 Speaker 2: Enthusiasm now right, yeah, and it's like that's the way

1:57:38 Speaker 2: you're good at what? That's what? Nobody does this better

1:57:41 Speaker 2: that without the enthusiasm, forget it.

1:57:43 Speaker 3: What it has to be authentic like that. I mean,

1:57:45 Speaker 3: the only reason why I do MMA commentary is because

1:57:48 Speaker 3: I'm very interested in it. For real. It's I don't

1:57:51 Speaker 3: have to manufacture it. I'm very interested.

1:57:54 Speaker 2: So going in there after the fight and they're sweating

1:57:57 Speaker 2: all of you, they're slapping all of you, your beautiful bleeding.

1:58:02 Speaker 3: A little bit.

1:58:03 Speaker 2: Yeah, like two weeks ago with was He, I never

1:58:05 Speaker 2: saw Yeah he more stuff came out of his nose.

1:58:09 Speaker 3: Yes, it was pretty nasty, but no, I'm very used

1:58:12 Speaker 3: to it. I just wanted him to be able to

1:58:14 Speaker 3: express himself. Job, thank you, thank you, so back to

1:58:18 Speaker 3: you and back to what what are you? And first

1:58:22 Speaker 3: of all, I love this idea of you teaming up

1:58:24 Speaker 3: with Robert Kennedy, right, And I love this make America

1:58:27 Speaker 3: healthy again idea, because there are chemicals and ingredients, and

1:58:32 Speaker 3: there are food that are illegal in other countries because

1:58:35 Speaker 3: they've been shown to be toxic. There's pesticides and herbicides,

1:58:40 Speaker 3: and there's a lot of ship that's been sprayed on

1:58:42 Speaker 3: our food that really is unnecessary. And there's a lot

1:58:45 Speaker 3: of health consequences that people are suffering from a lot

1:58:49 Speaker 3: of these things.

1:58:50 Speaker 2: And to you, beautiful, because I had a feeling you'd

1:58:52 Speaker 2: be asking me, look at this chart. These are healthier countries.

1:58:56 Speaker 2: Look where the United States is. I'm going to send

1:58:57 Speaker 2: this to RFKR, so this.

1:59:01 Speaker 3: Is well something along the I was actually talking to

1:59:04 Speaker 3: RFK today and he told me that more than seventy

1:59:08 Speaker 3: percent of young men are ineligible for the military because

1:59:12 Speaker 3: of their health.

1:59:13 Speaker 2: I could say it.

1:59:16 Speaker 3: So, here's the life expectancy versus health expenditure.

1:59:20 Speaker 2: Same chart.

1:59:21 Speaker 3: Yeah, did you see that USA?

1:59:22 Speaker 2: Well that's pretty good, James, he's very good.

1:59:25 Speaker 3: He's the best.

1:59:27 Speaker 2: But look at that.

1:59:27 Speaker 3: Look at the not good. And that's that's our diet.

1:59:31 Speaker 3: That's that sedentary lifestyle. That's our diet. That's the chemicals

1:59:34 Speaker 3: we ingest, that's what that is.

1:59:36 Speaker 2: But RFK is going to be very you know. I

1:59:39 Speaker 2: think he's a great guy.

1:59:41 Speaker 3: I love the fact that you guys teamed up. Yeah,

1:59:43 Speaker 3: And are you guys, are you completely committed to have

1:59:45 Speaker 3: him a part of your administration?

1:59:47 Speaker 2: I am. But the only thing I want to be

1:59:48 Speaker 2: a little careful about with him is the environmental because

1:59:52 Speaker 2: you know he doesn't like oil. I love oil. I

1:59:54 Speaker 2: guess I think you know, I think, just keep him

1:59:56 Speaker 2: out of that to fire. So I'm going to say

1:59:57 Speaker 2: to keep him out of a little bit. I said,

1:59:59 Speaker 2: folk on health, you can do whatever you want, but

2:00:03 Speaker 2: I got to be a little bit careful with the

2:00:05 Speaker 2: liquid gold.

2:00:05 Speaker 3: You know, I understand, But listen, there's plenty of good

2:00:09 Speaker 3: work that could be done if you focus on health.

2:00:10 Speaker 2: He's the one that he is the one that my

2:00:12 Speaker 2: old time favorite see the error right here, that's when

2:00:15 Speaker 2: I left.

2:00:16 Speaker 3: Do you have anyone that is pressuring you to not

2:00:19 Speaker 3: work with him? Have? Have there been? Yes? I would

2:00:25 Speaker 3: imagine because financially he can.

2:00:28 Speaker 2: I would say that. And you know, I think in

2:00:32 Speaker 2: many ways they've done a good job. In many ways

2:00:34 Speaker 2: they've done a bad job. But I would say that

2:00:36 Speaker 2: the big Pharmer wasn't thrilled when they heard that you

2:00:42 Speaker 2: don't have early. I've actually always gotten along very well

2:00:44 Speaker 2: with him. I've known him a long time. He's a

2:00:47 Speaker 2: different kind of a guy. He's very smart, great guy,

2:00:50 Speaker 2: and he's very sincere about this. I mean he really is.

2:00:52 Speaker 2: You know, he thinks we spend a fortune on pesticide

2:00:56 Speaker 2: and all the stuff, and then you end up that

2:00:58 Speaker 2: chart is a terrible chart, the one previous. It's such

2:01:01 Speaker 2: a bad chart when you look at where we are

2:01:03 Speaker 2: compared to other countries that don't spend ten cents, right, so,

2:01:06 Speaker 2: you know, and you save a lot of money. But yeah,

2:01:09 Speaker 2: I've had some people that aren't exactly thrilled. You can imagine, right, Sure,

2:01:13 Speaker 2: it's a good question. Actually, well, certainly if it doesn't

2:01:17 Speaker 2: affect me.

2:01:18 Speaker 3: Some pharmaceutical drugs that have been prescribed that have negative

2:01:22 Speaker 3: consequences that these people have been profiting off of. And

2:01:25 Speaker 3: then you have a guy like RFK Junior who spends

2:01:27 Speaker 3: an enormous amount of time highlighting those things. You could say,

2:01:30 Speaker 3: how they've been very reluctant to have you support him.

2:01:33 Speaker 2: I would say that's an understatement.

2:01:35 Speaker 3: Yeah, so what do you do to stop that from

2:01:38 Speaker 3: listening in the way.

2:01:39 Speaker 2: Well, look, they've come up with some amazing things. I mean,

2:01:43 Speaker 2: I don't know how you feel. I know you're against

2:01:45 Speaker 2: the certain vaccines, but like the polio vaccine, people had

2:01:49 Speaker 2: polio that it was like a disaster, and they came

2:01:53 Speaker 2: up doctor Salk, and he came up with a vaccine

2:01:56 Speaker 2: and there's no polio. Now very interesting, there hasn't been polio,

2:01:59 Speaker 2: but now in the gaza strip. Can you believe that?

2:02:02 Speaker 2: Have you heard that there's been a big strain of

2:02:04 Speaker 2: polio coming out in the gaza strip?

2:02:07 Speaker 3: Is it vaccine derived polio? Because you know there's there's

2:02:09 Speaker 3: a strain of polio that comes directly from the vaccine,

2:02:12 Speaker 3: because unfortunately, sometimes the vaccinate people for polio.

2:02:16 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, all I can do is I sit

2:02:19 Speaker 2: down and I listen to him and I'll give it total.

2:02:23 Speaker 2: I would love him to be right, because it's if

2:02:26 Speaker 2: he's right, it's a lot less expensive. Generally.

2:02:28 Speaker 3: There's two things that people point to when they point

2:02:31 Speaker 3: to the dangers of the pharmaceutical drug industry. One thing

2:02:36 Speaker 3: is when pharmaceutical drugs were allowed to advertise on television.

2:02:40 Speaker 3: We're only one of two countries in the world that

2:02:42 Speaker 3: allow pharmaceutical drugs to advertise on TV. The other ones

2:02:46 Speaker 3: New Zealand, but they're they're more restrictive than we are.

2:02:48 Speaker 2: People those ads, those ads when you hear like, you know,

2:02:51 Speaker 2: take a certain drug and then you hear all you say,

2:02:54 Speaker 2: it causes cancer and baldness. We don't like suicide, audition

2:02:57 Speaker 2: and you can lose your vision, you know. I just

2:03:00 Speaker 2: I actually asked one of these guys, I would never

2:03:03 Speaker 2: take to course. There's things that are so bad. They

2:03:05 Speaker 2: go through a whole list. I guess they save some liability,

2:03:08 Speaker 2: but man, I said, does that affect the purchase? And

2:03:12 Speaker 2: they say it really does. When they when there's something

2:03:16 Speaker 2: you have and you read and then they go through

2:03:18 Speaker 2: the list of side effects, the potential side it's not

2:03:21 Speaker 2: even the potential side effects. I mean a lot of

2:03:24 Speaker 2: people are just I asked that question. People hear that

2:03:28 Speaker 2: when I hear it, I'm going to take a pass.

2:03:30 Speaker 2: It says may affect your vision, may cause blindness.

2:03:34 Speaker 3: May yes, but I know you're aware of calent casey

2:03:37 Speaker 3: means right, yes. Well. One of one of the things

2:03:39 Speaker 3: that they pointed out, and this is a very important

2:03:42 Speaker 3: thing for people to understand, is what a lot of

2:03:44 Speaker 3: these drugs do is they they act to to somehow

2:03:50 Speaker 3: or another mitigate the effects of poor metabolic health. But

2:03:54 Speaker 3: most of these problems that these people are suffering from

2:03:56 Speaker 3: wouldn't exist if we put an emphasis on metabolic health health.

2:04:00 Speaker 3: If people got healthier they started eating nutritious food and

2:04:03 Speaker 3: taking vitamins, a whole host of these problems that people

2:04:07 Speaker 3: are having would go away. And the problem with that

2:04:10 Speaker 3: from the pharmaceutical drug standpoint is they wouldn't be able

2:04:12 Speaker 3: to sell drugs to these people.

2:04:14 Speaker 2: And this is a pesticides and things like that on

2:04:18 Speaker 2: the plants, and yeah, what do you think of that?

2:04:20 Speaker 3: It's terrible. Well, I think regenerative agriculture, unfortunately, is very

2:04:24 Speaker 3: difficult to scale to a point where you got a

2:04:26 Speaker 3: jack in the box on every corner. If everybody wants food,

2:04:28 Speaker 3: and we have food deserts, and we have places like

2:04:30 Speaker 3: Los Angeles where no one's growing anything and everything has

2:04:33 Speaker 3: to be shipped in, and it's very difficult to feed

2:04:36 Speaker 3: that many people. We've created this incredible society where we

2:04:40 Speaker 3: have these enormous cities, but it's very difficult to get

2:04:43 Speaker 3: food to these people. And then for a lot of

2:04:45 Speaker 3: these people in low income areas, the only food that's

2:04:48 Speaker 3: available is cheap, unhealthy food, and we could fix that.

2:04:53 Speaker 3: That's if we could send one hundred and seventy five

2:04:55 Speaker 3: billion dollars to Ukraine. We could do something to fix

2:04:58 Speaker 3: a lot of the health problems that the United sl

2:05:00 Speaker 3: States has. And I think it would it would help

2:05:02 Speaker 3: us as a nation overall, just if you just put

2:05:06 Speaker 3: it out there that, hey, as a nation, we're going

2:05:08 Speaker 3: to make a concerted effort to get people healthier. Just

2:05:11 Speaker 3: put it out there and people start making better choices.

2:05:13 Speaker 2: Well, when you look at that chart, it's crazy. I

2:05:16 Speaker 2: just they just gave you that jot because they said

2:05:18 Speaker 2: you may want to discuss this topic, which I know

2:05:20 Speaker 2: is a big topic for you. And when I looked

2:05:22 Speaker 2: at that chart and I looked at how unhealthy we

2:05:25 Speaker 2: are as a nation, that's a that's a pretty big

2:05:27 Speaker 2: How are you so healthy?

2:05:29 Speaker 3: Is it golf?

2:05:30 Speaker 2: No, it's genetics, I believe you know. I'm a big

2:05:32 Speaker 2: Genetics is a big factory. I really am. I'm and

2:05:35 Speaker 2: my father with.

2:05:38 Speaker 3: Unfortunately is a big factor for health. Some people are

2:05:40 Speaker 3: just way more robust. But you do play golf a lot,

2:05:43 Speaker 3: and that is.

2:05:44 Speaker 2: Both of my parents. It's for me. It's good, it

2:05:47 Speaker 2: really is. As you outside even mentally you're focused on

2:05:52 Speaker 2: that three footer. For some for a couple of hours

2:05:54 Speaker 2: you're not. And I go quick, I play fast, real fast,

2:05:57 Speaker 2: and I'm I'm in them out. But you know it

2:05:59 Speaker 2: gives me. I was never one that could like run

2:06:02 Speaker 2: on a treadmill just and I can do it. You know,

2:06:04 Speaker 2: when passing a physical they asked me to run on

2:06:07 Speaker 2: a treadmill and then they make it steeper and steeper

2:06:10 Speaker 2: and steeper, and the doctor said it was at waltery.

2:06:13 Speaker 2: They said, it's unbelievable. I could have gone. I'm telling you,

2:06:17 Speaker 2: I felt I could have gone all day. But I said, doc,

2:06:21 Speaker 2: I can do this all day long. I'm not. I

2:06:23 Speaker 2: have no problem, but it's boring to me. Do you

2:06:26 Speaker 2: understand It's but I did it for so long. They

2:06:29 Speaker 2: couldn't believe it that I did it, and I never

2:06:32 Speaker 2: you know, I don't do it. I don't really, you know,

2:06:34 Speaker 2: I have friends they've running this stuff all day long.

2:06:36 Speaker 2: But I had no problem doing it. But it's really boring.

2:06:39 Speaker 2: So with golf or something you know, or tennis or whatever, golf,

2:06:44 Speaker 2: as you get older, there's something really good about it,

2:06:47 Speaker 2: and you have competition with it's a great handicapsport.

2:06:52 Speaker 3: And it's also a thing I think that's uh. It

2:06:54 Speaker 3: cleans your mind because when you're looking at a shot,

2:06:57 Speaker 3: that's all you can think of. When you're executing, it.

2:07:00 Speaker 2: Gives you a couple of us, you know. It's interesting.

2:07:02 Speaker 2: Like with tennis, if you're much better than somebody, you

2:07:05 Speaker 2: can't really play with somebody. You know, it doesn't work.

2:07:07 Speaker 2: You can give them sort of the equivalent of strokes, right,

2:07:10 Speaker 2: but it's not this with golf. You can play with

2:07:13 Speaker 2: a lousy guy and give them a stroke ahole or

2:07:15 Speaker 2: two strokes a hole or something. You know, it's a

2:07:16 Speaker 2: good handicapping, right. But it gives me a little exercise.

2:07:19 Speaker 2: But I haven't played in a long time. I won

2:07:22 Speaker 2: a lot of I won thirty two club championships.

2:07:24 Speaker 3: Gis, can you play right after you got shot? No?

2:07:28 Speaker 2: Where? What I did is I played with Bryson DeChambeau.

2:07:32 Speaker 2: Do you know Bryson, Yes, the pro he's a great player.

2:07:36 Speaker 2: And we played. It was a certain thing that we played,

2:07:39 Speaker 2: I guess called breaking fifty or something fifty. We play

2:07:42 Speaker 2: from a certain tee and if you can break fifty,

2:07:45 Speaker 2: and it got tremendous ratings, sort of like a crazy thing.

2:07:49 Speaker 2: It got to me he's a great guy. But a

2:07:51 Speaker 2: couple of days, I don't know. I know that was

2:07:55 Speaker 2: one of the funniest things. Course I think I did. Yeah,

2:07:58 Speaker 2: maybe I did, but I you know, I vial it

2:08:02 Speaker 2: very interestingly. I'm running for president of the United States.

2:08:06 Speaker 2: To me, it's such a big deal. It's so important.

2:08:09 Speaker 2: So I've gotten now the biggest deal in the free world.

2:08:12 Speaker 2: It's one hundred times bigger than the super Bowl. And

2:08:14 Speaker 2: it's one person.

2:08:15 Speaker 3: Yea.

2:08:16 Speaker 2: So you're down to two people. And we start off

2:08:20 Speaker 2: at nine billion. Because you have nine billion, they say

2:08:24 Speaker 2: in the world, who knows what that number is. But

2:08:26 Speaker 2: you get down to three hundred and fifty million. Sadly,

2:08:29 Speaker 2: we have no idea what we have in this country.

2:08:31 Speaker 2: But let's assume it's three twenty five, three fifty and

2:08:34 Speaker 2: you're down to two people. It's the biggest thing in

2:08:36 Speaker 2: the world. And when I heard she took off yesterday,

2:08:40 Speaker 2: and she took off the day before, and she's going

2:08:41 Speaker 2: to take off tomorrow or the next day. I haven't

2:08:44 Speaker 2: taken a day off in fifty six days. That's a

2:08:48 Speaker 2: long time. I haven't taken one day off. I don't

2:08:52 Speaker 2: want to plug up. This is too exciting. Golf is great,

2:08:56 Speaker 2: but this is too exciting. This is more exciting than

2:08:58 Speaker 2: anything you can do.

2:09:00 Speaker 3: Also, it's the home stretch.

2:09:02 Speaker 2: It's the home stretch. Who would take a day off?

2:09:04 Speaker 2: So we have eleven days left now, and think of it.

2:09:09 Speaker 2: So I think I've gone fifty four to fifty five

2:09:11 Speaker 2: days in a row, no days off. And I make

2:09:14 Speaker 2: speeches oftentimes, you know, sometimes not, but I make speeches

2:09:17 Speaker 2: and when you make a speech, and my speeches last

2:09:20 Speaker 2: a long time because of the weave, you know, I mean,

2:09:22 Speaker 2: I weave stories into it. And if you don't, if

2:09:24 Speaker 2: you just read a teleprompter, nobody's going to be very exciting.

2:09:27 Speaker 2: You got to weave it out, so you but you

2:09:30 Speaker 2: always have to, as you say, you always have to

2:09:31 Speaker 2: get right back to it. Yeah, otherwise it's not good.

2:09:33 Speaker 2: But the weave is very very important. Very few weavers around.

2:09:37 Speaker 2: But it's a big strain on your you know, it's

2:09:41 Speaker 2: a big it's a lot of work. It's a lot

2:09:43 Speaker 2: of work. You got to be careful with the voice.

2:09:46 Speaker 2: You can lose that voice. The voice wasn't designed, I

2:09:49 Speaker 2: said today, So I made a big one last night.

2:09:52 Speaker 2: I was in Las Vegas Big One the night before

2:09:56 Speaker 2: in Arizona Big one. I mean they're all big. We

2:10:00 Speaker 2: have the There's never been anything like it in terms

2:10:03 Speaker 2: of crowd Never been close, Never been close. They say,

2:10:07 Speaker 2: he talks about crowd, says, you know, it's very interesting.

2:10:10 Speaker 2: So we get crowds that are really big. And I say,

2:10:15 Speaker 2: you know, I've never had a story because I don't

2:10:18 Speaker 2: get good press. I don't think I've had a good

2:10:19 Speaker 2: story in years. I really don't. I don't. I swear

2:10:21 Speaker 2: I don't think you were talking about it a little

2:10:23 Speaker 2: bit with oat Brow. Everybody loved me. I don't think

2:10:27 Speaker 2: I became president of the United States. I did great.

2:10:30 Speaker 2: The second time. I did much better. I don't want

2:10:33 Speaker 2: to get you in any disputes, but I won that

2:10:37 Speaker 2: second election so easy, and not just because.

2:10:39 Speaker 3: Let me go to that. I want to talk to you.

2:10:41 Speaker 2: But here's the thing. I did that, and now I've

2:10:44 Speaker 2: gotten the nomination again. And don't forget. To get these nominations,

2:10:47 Speaker 2: you go against very smart people. Ron De Santis was hot,

2:10:50 Speaker 2: got to go through him. Nikki Haley was hot, got

2:10:54 Speaker 2: to go through her. I went through everybody record time, right,

2:10:58 Speaker 2: record time. I got three non nations a row. Uh one.

2:11:03 Speaker 2: The first time did much better the second time. You know,

2:11:05 Speaker 2: I get millions of votes more of the second time,

2:11:08 Speaker 2: and now I'm doing it a third time, and it's

2:11:11 Speaker 2: an incredible thing. I navigate a good story, I only

2:11:15 Speaker 2: get bad press. Now, I will say this, it's a

2:11:18 Speaker 2: lot easier if you're a Democrat. If I were a Democrat,

2:11:21 Speaker 2: you get a lot of positive press. I would get

2:11:22 Speaker 2: a lot of positive Yes.

2:11:24 Speaker 3: No, it's a it's a creepy, corrupt business and the

2:11:26 Speaker 3: media to a large extent, acts as a propaganda arm

2:11:29 Speaker 3: for the democratic art.

2:11:30 Speaker 2: It's not it's not even beelievable.

2:11:32 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's believed. I mean it's bizarre to watch. And

2:11:35 Speaker 3: most you know, most young people out there are aware

2:11:37 Speaker 3: of it. I think most boomers still unfortunately read the

2:11:40 Speaker 3: newspapers and believe in CNN.

2:11:42 Speaker 2: But it's getting younger. Yes, it's getting for us for

2:11:47 Speaker 2: a conscheusus. And you know, you know why I consider

2:11:50 Speaker 2: myself the Internet.

2:11:51 Speaker 3: It's because the internet's giving people information that they're not

2:11:53 Speaker 3: getting from anywhere else. And they like the very Fine

2:11:56 Speaker 3: People hoax, the Russia Gate hoax, all these different things

2:11:59 Speaker 3: that they've done they tried to pin on you. That's like,

2:12:02 Speaker 3: it's a clear distortion of what you actually said.

2:12:05 Speaker 2: Bloodbath hooks. Yeah, I was talking about the auto industry.

2:12:09 Speaker 2: It's a bloodbath because Japan and China are taking our

2:12:14 Speaker 2: auto and I said it's a bloodbath. They said, oh,

2:12:17 Speaker 2: he used the word blood based.

2:12:20 Speaker 3: That's going to take it's It's a terrible But that's

2:12:23 Speaker 3: the problem with propagandists because they take things out of

2:12:27 Speaker 3: context and of ultimately, what they do is they diminish

2:12:29 Speaker 3: their own credibility because people don't want to listen to

2:12:31 Speaker 3: them anymore because they see that they've done that and

2:12:34 Speaker 3: they recognize what's going on and they feel insulted. They're intelligent.

2:12:37 Speaker 2: Well look at the ratings, you know, shows are like yours.

2:12:41 Speaker 2: So I have a son who's very smart and tall,

2:12:44 Speaker 2: baron right, and he knows all about you. He knows

2:12:48 Speaker 2: about guys I never heard of. He said, Dad, you

2:12:51 Speaker 2: don't know how big they are. They're big, you know.

2:12:54 Speaker 2: I said, who the hell is it? Like Ross did?

2:12:57 Speaker 2: He said, Daddy's a great guy. I mean, I said

2:13:00 Speaker 2: it doing. It's a whole new world out there.

2:13:03 Speaker 3: It's a different world.

2:13:04 Speaker 2: And you know, I'm on TikTok. Now, congratulations and I've

2:13:07 Speaker 2: done it really well. No, but you know the crazy.

2:13:09 Speaker 2: Have you seen the numbers of billions, like billions of hits?

2:13:13 Speaker 2: It's sure, TikTok's a wild application. I've gone up thirty points.

2:13:19 Speaker 2: A Republican is always down thirty With young people, I'm

2:13:23 Speaker 2: plus thirty and I'm want to talk TikTok. I think

2:13:26 Speaker 2: you a huge impact.

2:13:27 Speaker 3: Young people are rejecting a lot of this woke bullshit.

2:13:30 Speaker 3: Young people are tired of being yelled at and scolded.

2:13:33 Speaker 3: They're tired of these people that they think are mentally

2:13:36 Speaker 3: ill telling them what the moral standards their society should

2:13:39 Speaker 3: be today. And people are upset.

2:13:40 Speaker 2: It's a big there's a big difference now. But even

2:13:43 Speaker 2: in just a couple of years, I was shaking hands

2:13:46 Speaker 2: with people. They're young people.

2:13:47 Speaker 3: The rebels are Republicans now, they're like, you want to

2:13:50 Speaker 3: be a rebel, you want to be punk rock, you

2:13:52 Speaker 3: want to like buck the system. You're a conservative? Now,

2:13:55 Speaker 3: that's the that's how crazy. And then the liberals are

2:13:58 Speaker 3: now pro pro silencing criticism. They're they're pro censorship online,

2:14:06 Speaker 3: They're they're talking about regulating free speech, and they're regulating

2:14:10 Speaker 3: the First Amendment. It's bananas to watch.

2:14:13 Speaker 2: So they come after their political opponent. Well, dig more, guys.

2:14:17 Speaker 2: I always say you're not kid, but I'm not kidding.

2:14:21 Speaker 2: I've been investigated more than Alfonse Coppone. He was the

2:14:23 Speaker 2: meanest of them. Well, he'd kill you in two seconds

2:14:25 Speaker 2: if he didn't like you. Right, I've been under investigation

2:14:29 Speaker 2: more than Alfonse Copone only because it's political opponent's stuff.

2:14:33 Speaker 2: And I've won. I won the big case in Florida.

2:14:36 Speaker 2: I'm winning the other stuff you win. But you know

2:14:39 Speaker 2: what they did. They did something that's only done in

2:14:41 Speaker 2: third world countries. They came after that political opponent. Yes,

2:14:44 Speaker 2: I could have put crooked Hillary in jail.

2:14:46 Speaker 3: Well not only that, but they're not weaponizing it by

2:14:49 Speaker 3: saying that that's what you were going to do once

2:14:51 Speaker 3: you get an augusiness, ignoring what they're doing right now.

2:14:55 Speaker 3: It's crazy.

2:14:55 Speaker 2: I heard somebody was defending me today says, no, that's

2:15:00 Speaker 2: they say, that's what you're doing to him. They're going

2:15:02 Speaker 2: he's going to put us in jail, He's going to

2:15:04 Speaker 2: invest that's what you're doing to him. A lot of

2:15:08 Speaker 2: people say, will you do that? Will you do that?

2:15:11 Speaker 2: To him, if to them, if you win, you know

2:15:13 Speaker 2: it's the president's has tremendous power. I could have put

2:15:17 Speaker 2: crooked Hillary.

2:15:18 Speaker 3: I respected that you didn't because what you said was

2:15:20 Speaker 3: it would be bad for the country.

2:15:22 Speaker 2: No, I can't. I couldn't even imagine. You have, first

2:15:25 Speaker 2: of all, secretary say, but more importantly, the wife of

2:15:27 Speaker 2: the President of the United States of America going into jail.

2:15:32 Speaker 2: And if you ever saw when I'd say something about her,

2:15:34 Speaker 2: they'd all say, I didn't say, I never said it.

2:15:37 Speaker 2: They say, locker up, locker And I'd always go, take

2:15:40 Speaker 2: it easy, just relax, we're gonna win this thing. Take

2:15:42 Speaker 2: it easy, to take it easy. And I'm telling you

2:15:44 Speaker 2: I kept it down. Just the opposite. Now they say, oh,

2:15:47 Speaker 2: Trump wanted to put her and said, no, I saved

2:15:49 Speaker 2: her from going to jail. They had more stuff on her,

2:15:53 Speaker 2: and Comy had it because when Comy got up, and

2:15:56 Speaker 2: he's stupidly, because he's a stupid guy too, he goes,

2:15:59 Speaker 2: he's a upid son of a bitch. He got up Joe.

2:16:02 Speaker 2: He got up and instead of saying she's innocent of

2:16:05 Speaker 2: all charges, he went over each charge and each charge

2:16:10 Speaker 2: was a killer, and he go and as far as

2:16:13 Speaker 2: her doing this, she's innocent and this, and then she's

2:16:18 Speaker 2: only an unfair prosecutor for we go. But every time

2:16:21 Speaker 2: you heard these charges, they sounded so bad, they were bad.

2:16:26 Speaker 2: And all it was is he wanted more airtime. If

2:16:29 Speaker 2: he would have gone up and said I've thoroughly investigated

2:16:34 Speaker 2: Hillary Clinton and she's done nothing that we feel is wrong,

2:16:38 Speaker 2: it would have ended. Instead, he wanted to be up

2:16:41 Speaker 2: there because he's a pr hound, he's a hog. And

2:16:45 Speaker 2: he starts going through that, and you know what he had.

2:16:47 Speaker 2: They had a huge problem because FBI is great. The

2:16:51 Speaker 2: people there, not the top people, the people, the real people,

2:16:55 Speaker 2: the people that work there's like the real generals that

2:16:57 Speaker 2: I told you about. The defeated ISISID record time. The

2:17:00 Speaker 2: FBI guys are great. I'll bet you I'd be at

2:17:03 Speaker 2: ninety five percent in the FBI.

2:17:06 Speaker 3: I bet that's right underneath. Yeah.

2:17:08 Speaker 2: And so here's the thing. So he goes with Hillary

2:17:10 Speaker 2: and instead of just saying he goes to each charge right.

2:17:14 Speaker 2: And even when I was saying, man, those are bad charges.

2:17:17 Speaker 3: Sounds terrible because this is before those charges.

2:17:20 Speaker 2: Don't forget this, before I got there. Now, he was

2:17:22 Speaker 2: trying to protect her, but he did her a great disservice.

2:17:26 Speaker 3: Because he wanted attention. He was still So I want

2:17:29 Speaker 3: to talk about twenty twenty because you said over and

2:17:31 Speaker 3: over again that you were robbed in twenty twenty totally.

2:17:34 Speaker 3: What how do you think you were robbed? Everybody always

2:17:37 Speaker 3: cuts you off. I'm gonna do it well.

2:17:39 Speaker 2: They not only cut you well. What I'd rather do

2:17:42 Speaker 2: is we'll do it another time, and I would bring

2:17:44 Speaker 2: in papers that you would not believe, so many different

2:17:47 Speaker 2: papers that election was so crooked. It was the most

2:17:52 Speaker 2: crooked election.

2:17:53 Speaker 3: Okay, but give me some examples of how well.

2:17:55 Speaker 2: Let's start. Let's start the top and the easy ones.

2:17:57 Speaker 3: Okay.

2:17:58 Speaker 2: They were supposed to get legislative approval to do the

2:18:01 Speaker 2: things they did, and they didn't get it. In many cases,

2:18:04 Speaker 2: they didn't get it.

2:18:05 Speaker 3: What things anything, Let they made approval.

2:18:08 Speaker 2: Like for extensions of the voting, for voting earlier, for this,

2:18:12 Speaker 2: all different things. By law, they had to get legislative approvals.

2:18:17 Speaker 2: You don't have to go any further than that. If

2:18:19 Speaker 2: you take a look at Wisconsin, Uh, they virtually admitted

2:18:24 Speaker 2: that the election was rigged, robbed, and stolen. They wouldn't

2:18:29 Speaker 2: give access in certain areas to the ballots, because the

2:18:34 Speaker 2: ballots weren't signed, they weren't originals, they were We could

2:18:38 Speaker 2: go into this stuff. We could go into the ballots,

2:18:40 Speaker 2: or we could go into the overall. I'll give you

2:18:42 Speaker 2: another one.

2:18:43 Speaker 3: Are present, like do you do you think?

2:18:48 Speaker 2: Let me just give you a count. Before fifty one

2:18:52 Speaker 2: intelligence agents come up that the laptop was from Russia.

2:18:59 Speaker 2: It turned out to be totally false.

2:19:01 Speaker 3: Former intelligence agents, right, they.

2:19:03 Speaker 2: Say that made I don't believe it's this much. But

2:19:06 Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. I won by like I lost by

2:19:08 Speaker 2: like I did list But they say I lost Joe.

2:19:12 Speaker 2: They say I lost by twenty two thousand votes. That's

2:19:15 Speaker 2: like one tenth of one percent less than that. It's

2:19:19 Speaker 2: a tiny little thing, twenty two thousand votes spread over

2:19:23 Speaker 2: that's spread over this period. So fifty one intelligence agents lied.

2:19:29 Speaker 2: They lied, they lied. They knew it was it was Hunters,

2:19:33 Speaker 2: it was from his bed, it was Hunter's laptop. They

2:19:36 Speaker 2: said it was created by Russia. Russia, Russia. It was

2:19:40 Speaker 2: the Russia hox. The Russia hoax was a big hoax.

2:19:43 Speaker 2: It was all a big hoax. So well, but that's

2:19:47 Speaker 2: a big example. They say it made a seventeen point difference.

2:19:50 Speaker 2: That's a big example, but that's only one. And you

2:19:54 Speaker 2: could go into the ballots where they wouldn't give you

2:19:56 Speaker 2: access to the ballots. You could go into the ballot

2:19:59 Speaker 2: harvest thing. You could go into five hundred million dollars

2:20:03 Speaker 2: for the lock boxes.

2:20:05 Speaker 3: But just in terms of narrative, So there's two things, right,

2:20:07 Speaker 3: there's the Russia hoax. There's the collusion with Russia that

2:20:10 Speaker 3: was never proven.

2:20:11 Speaker 2: Right, that's what it's proven. It didn't happen, right, right.

2:20:14 Speaker 3: But they they talked about it on two and a

2:20:17 Speaker 3: half years to prove. But not only that, but it

2:20:19 Speaker 3: was a constant narrative on television. So that's a constant

2:20:23 Speaker 3: narrative that gets into people's minds, especially low information people

2:20:26 Speaker 3: that just watch the news, that you're in collusion with Russia.

2:20:28 Speaker 3: So that's one. So that changes the narrative. And then

2:20:30 Speaker 3: you have the fifty one former intelligence agents that work

2:20:34 Speaker 3: with the original Twitter and get them to remove links.

2:20:38 Speaker 3: You can't share it on DMS, you cannot share that story.

2:20:41 Speaker 3: They swept that story because they said it was Russian

2:20:44 Speaker 3: disinformation even though they knew it was not. So that's

2:20:48 Speaker 3: two examples that are real examples. Now, anyone who considers

2:20:53 Speaker 3: themselves a legitimate objective observer of American politics, if you

2:20:58 Speaker 3: really want the best person to win, you would want

2:21:01 Speaker 3: people to not lie. And the only reason why they

2:21:04 Speaker 3: got away with this lie was because they continually labeled

2:21:07 Speaker 3: you as this horrible threat to democracy and Hitler. They

2:21:11 Speaker 3: kept saying, you're going to be a dictator, ignoring the

2:21:14 Speaker 3: fact that you weren't a dictator for the four years

2:21:17 Speaker 3: where you're actually the president.

2:21:18 Speaker 2: I was actually the opposite of a dictator. I was

2:21:20 Speaker 2: a very straight guy. But look those three things. You

2:21:23 Speaker 2: take those three things, each one of them by themselves

2:21:26 Speaker 2: be cause, is the result to be different? It does,

2:21:29 Speaker 2: And then you can go into a hundred other things.

2:21:31 Speaker 2: There's so many. We can't have corrupt elections, and we

2:21:35 Speaker 2: can't have open borders. We need we need. You need

2:21:37 Speaker 2: to have a country, You need borders, you need fair elections.

2:21:42 Speaker 2: And I'll tell you the other thing you need is

2:21:44 Speaker 2: you need a free and fair press. One of the

2:21:46 Speaker 2: things I like about doing a show like this, can

2:21:49 Speaker 2: you imagine Kamala doing this show. She could imagine saying

2:21:54 Speaker 2: the floor.

2:21:54 Speaker 3: She was supposed to do it, and she might steal

2:21:56 Speaker 3: us it, and I hope she does. I will talk

2:21:59 Speaker 3: to her like a human being. I would try to.

2:22:01 Speaker 2: Interview with you. I hope she does, because it would

2:22:05 Speaker 2: be a mess. She'd be laying on the floor, you'd

2:22:08 Speaker 2: be saying in the medics.

2:22:10 Speaker 3: I think we'd have a fine conversation. I think i'd

2:22:12 Speaker 3: be able to talk to her. I wouldn't try to

2:22:14 Speaker 3: interview her. I just try to have a conversation with

2:22:16 Speaker 3: her and hopefully get to know her as a human being.

2:22:18 Speaker 3: That was my goal having her on, trying to get

2:22:20 Speaker 3: her to express herself, just as I don't know if

2:22:22 Speaker 3: these I don't think these formats are good. I don't

2:22:25 Speaker 3: think that two people. First of all, I hate the

2:22:28 Speaker 3: idea of the presidential debates because I hate the idea

2:22:31 Speaker 3: of a time limitation on complex ideas. Also, you have

2:22:34 Speaker 3: to break.

2:22:34 Speaker 2: I think you have to have the debates, still right, But.

2:22:36 Speaker 3: The way they do the debates, I think is the

2:22:38 Speaker 3: wrong way to do it. I think they should have

2:22:40 Speaker 3: a conversation. I think you and Kamala, you sit across

2:22:44 Speaker 3: the table with no one in the room but the

2:22:46 Speaker 3: two of you. Of Course you're not going to shout

2:22:48 Speaker 3: each other. Of course you're not.

2:22:50 Speaker 2: Going to get so, I mean it may get they

2:22:52 Speaker 2: used to do it.

2:22:53 Speaker 3: It wouldn't, but that would be the way to do it,

2:22:55 Speaker 3: and you used to do it that way. They old

2:22:57 Speaker 3: cameras on you with no no one interfew with pressed

2:23:01 Speaker 3: with checking whether or not it's factual, especially when it's biased,

2:23:05 Speaker 3: because they checked you all those times and they didn't

2:23:07 Speaker 3: check her with clearly things that were inaccurate. Right, So

2:23:11 Speaker 3: have two people just have a conversation with us without

2:23:14 Speaker 3: a time constraint. And also this ideal they caught off

2:23:17 Speaker 3: the microphone or no crowd, no crowd crazy too, because

2:23:22 Speaker 3: you're good at working the crowd.

2:23:23 Speaker 2: I would rather have a c of course, I would rather,

2:23:26 Speaker 2: but I had no so they gave me an alternative.

2:23:29 Speaker 2: I don't think you want a debate.

2:23:30 Speaker 3: Why did they want no crowd because I think.

2:23:32 Speaker 2: They thought I wasn't gonna accept it. So I believe

2:23:34 Speaker 2: what they wanted to do is have me not accept

2:23:37 Speaker 2: So they gave me a deal I couldn't refuse, and

2:23:40 Speaker 2: I said, I'll do it. Okay, it's like the mob, right,

2:23:44 Speaker 2: I'll take it. So they came to me, they said,

2:23:47 Speaker 2: we'll debate Joe Biden. You know the thing got tremendous

2:23:50 Speaker 2: ratings too. That was crazy. But will debate Joe Biden.

2:23:54 Speaker 2: But you can't have a crowd. They also wanted sitting down.

2:23:58 Speaker 2: I said, that's the only thing. I said, Look, you

2:23:59 Speaker 2: got to you got to stand up. You can't really

2:24:01 Speaker 2: sit down, you know in the old days they did

2:24:03 Speaker 2: sit down a little.

2:24:03 Speaker 3: Bit, but he gets tired.

2:24:05 Speaker 2: You got to stand up. And they agreed to it.

2:24:08 Speaker 2: It was a very tough thing. It almost killed it.

2:24:10 Speaker 2: They wanted to they wanted to have like desks. We said.

2:24:14 Speaker 2: I said, I think we should stand up. And that

2:24:16 Speaker 2: was the only thing I asked for. I said, we

2:24:18 Speaker 2: got to stand up. I thought it looked bad for

2:24:22 Speaker 2: like the public. But they said, no crowd and cut

2:24:25 Speaker 2: off the mic, and I said, I can live with it.

2:24:28 Speaker 2: I mean I could live with it. And they thought

2:24:30 Speaker 2: I was going to reject it, and then they would

2:24:32 Speaker 2: say he didn't want to debate sleepy Joe, right, that's

2:24:35 Speaker 2: what they thought. It was.

2:24:36 Speaker 3: Well, they tried to say that with you and Kamalo

2:24:37 Speaker 3: as well. They tried to say that you didn't want

2:24:39 Speaker 3: to debate her as well.

2:24:40 Speaker 2: No, by the way, with her number one, I'm leading

2:24:43 Speaker 2: number two, you know. I didn't. They also said it

2:24:45 Speaker 2: with the primary, so I had like ten twelve guys

2:24:49 Speaker 2: right in the prime and no stupid guys, I mean

2:24:52 Speaker 2: the governors and they senator. They're not stupid people. Some

2:24:55 Speaker 2: are stupid, but not all of them. And oh, my

2:24:58 Speaker 2: guy said you have to be in the debate, and

2:25:00 Speaker 2: I said, why, I'm leading by seventy four points the

2:25:04 Speaker 2: closest guy to me, I'm like sixty points seventy points higher.

2:25:08 Speaker 2: Why would I stand there like an idiot for two

2:25:10 Speaker 2: hours and let every one of them scream at me

2:25:13 Speaker 2: I'm going to be the focus. And I said, I'm

2:25:16 Speaker 2: not debating. And it was a very smart thing, because

2:25:18 Speaker 2: you know it was they just killed themselves.

2:25:20 Speaker 3: Republican primer.

2:25:21 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Republican primers with I like debating. I think debate.

2:25:27 Speaker 2: I think you have to debate, but I like I

2:25:30 Speaker 2: like debating, like the Rosie O'donnald debate. I like debating

2:25:34 Speaker 2: when you have a great Remember the making crazy thing, Megan,

2:25:38 Speaker 2: that was a hell of a question. Man If I

2:25:40 Speaker 2: didn't come up with that answer, Well, what it was

2:25:44 Speaker 2: is you know that was we had twenty eight thousand people.

2:25:46 Speaker 2: That was the Cleveland Arena where the Cavaliers played Lebron James.

2:25:50 Speaker 2: I'm not a big fan of Lebron James, but he

2:25:52 Speaker 2: is a good basketball player. But you know, that was

2:25:55 Speaker 2: the And when I said that, the place went crazy

2:25:59 Speaker 2: and she it's funny talking. No, she had like ten of.

2:26:01 Speaker 3: The Yeah, well, Megan said, you said it to other

2:26:04 Speaker 3: people and you admitted you did. But it was funny.

2:26:06 Speaker 3: It was it was a comedic timing moment. It was

2:26:08 Speaker 3: fun that's what they wanted.

2:26:09 Speaker 2: It was lucky I did it because she was drowned.

2:26:13 Speaker 2: Oh she wasn't finn that question. But she kept talking,

2:26:16 Speaker 2: but you couldn't hear. To this day, they don't know

2:26:18 Speaker 2: what she said. But it wasn't buzz it so anyway.

2:26:20 Speaker 3: But we had a good times comedic timing and that's

2:26:22 Speaker 3: the reason why to have a debate, a debate in

2:26:24 Speaker 3: front of a large audience. And then they got that

2:26:29 Speaker 3: was great, very fun very funny stuff. That Tim Wall

2:26:32 Speaker 3: stuff was very funny. It's funny.

2:26:34 Speaker 2: That's a real beat.

2:26:35 Speaker 3: That's a crazy one. She said that she had picked him.

2:26:39 Speaker 3: And this one of the questions I want to ask

2:26:40 Speaker 3: her when she was sleep deprived. She said she was

2:26:43 Speaker 3: suffering from sleep deprivation when she picked him, which is

2:26:45 Speaker 3: just like I was, maybe take a nap.

2:26:48 Speaker 2: So I was, okay, look, let's see how it all

2:26:50 Speaker 2: turns out. I think we're gonna win. I think we're

2:26:52 Speaker 2: way ahead. Now, I think we're way ahead. But but

2:26:55 Speaker 2: can I believe I think they're gonna look at two things.

2:27:00 Speaker 2: They're going to say they should have had a primary,

2:27:02 Speaker 2: even though it was a short primary. They shouldn't have

2:27:04 Speaker 2: picked her. And then she's going to say I shouldn't

2:27:06 Speaker 2: have picked this guy.

2:27:07 Speaker 3: She shouldn't have picked that car, that guy, the lying

2:27:10 Speaker 3: about Teneman Square, everything at that. Yeah, the military record assistant,

2:27:14 Speaker 3: she loved him, little thing.

2:27:16 Speaker 2: So I did McDonald's last week. I saw that and

2:27:19 Speaker 2: I actually got a call from your friends at Google

2:27:22 Speaker 2: from Sundar. That's pretty good, right, He said, this is

2:27:25 Speaker 2: the biggest thing we've had in years.

2:27:28 Speaker 3: They had McDonald's at McDonald's. Did you know that? It

2:27:30 Speaker 3: was one of the funny who's.

2:27:33 Speaker 2: A great guy by the way, but he said, this

2:27:35 Speaker 2: McDonald's thing. I want to tell you, it's one of

2:27:37 Speaker 2: the biggest things we've ever had on Google. It just

2:27:40 Speaker 2: hit But the reason I did, and I actually, you know,

2:27:43 Speaker 2: you never know about this stuff. I thought it was

2:27:44 Speaker 2: a throwaway. I didn't think our conversations throw away, but

2:27:48 Speaker 2: I thought that was. I thought I'd walk in and

2:27:50 Speaker 2: that was only to highlight the fact. And I have

2:27:52 Speaker 2: a friend he owns like fifty six of these McDonald's

2:27:55 Speaker 2: and he said, do you want to use one? I said, yeah,

2:27:57 Speaker 2: I love it. So we went there and the crowd

2:27:59 Speaker 2: was you know, they had twenty eight thousand people sit

2:28:02 Speaker 2: around the whole thing. Did you see the outside? It

2:28:04 Speaker 2: was crazy. The cars couldn't get through. Secret service was

2:28:07 Speaker 2: not exactly thrilled. I had no idea what the hell,

2:28:09 Speaker 2: But I went into the place and I did the

2:28:12 Speaker 2: French for I think, and it just hit. But that's

2:28:16 Speaker 2: like in life sometimes you do. I thought it was

2:28:18 Speaker 2: like a quick throw away. We're gonna be there for

2:28:20 Speaker 2: fifteen minutes, and I said, I've worked here for fifteen minutes,

2:28:23 Speaker 2: which is fifteen minutes more than she worked here. She

2:28:27 Speaker 2: lied about McDonald's. And you know that's proven that she

2:28:31 Speaker 2: never well, McDonald's has no information, she has no information,

2:28:36 Speaker 2: there's nobody. The manager said she never worked there. You

2:28:39 Speaker 2: know it was a certain place, and he said, they

2:28:41 Speaker 2: never know. She lied she's a liar. You know what

2:28:44 Speaker 2: they do. They'll say, like or any one of the questions,

2:28:47 Speaker 2: take any they'll say, it's the exact opposite of what

2:28:51 Speaker 2: I say. IVF. He's against IVF fertilization, right, he's And

2:28:58 Speaker 2: it's the exact opposite I was. I came out immediately strongly,

2:29:01 Speaker 2: and they do ads. I'm against it. It's wrong on

2:29:06 Speaker 2: every single topic. And you know, she changed policies on fifteen.

2:29:11 Speaker 2: I've never seen a guy change, anybody change on more

2:29:14 Speaker 2: than one. You know, you can maybe get away with

2:29:16 Speaker 2: one her whole life, fracking every single thing that she

2:29:20 Speaker 2: was for the confiscation of gun she wants to CONFI

2:29:24 Speaker 2: now she's saying everybody should have a gun. In fact,

2:29:26 Speaker 2: we're going to get her a Maga cap. I'm going

2:29:28 Speaker 2: to send her a Maga cap. But she's changed, and

2:29:31 Speaker 2: I don't think people are buying it. I don't think

2:29:33 Speaker 2: people are buying it.

2:29:34 Speaker 3: Well, some people are buying it because they want to

2:29:36 Speaker 3: buy it because it's blue. No matter who there's there's

2:29:38 Speaker 3: a certain percentage of our population that's going to vote Democrat,

2:29:41 Speaker 3: no matter what.

2:29:42 Speaker 2: That's true.

2:29:43 Speaker 3: They're pressured. There's their their community, their ideology. It's you know,

2:29:47 Speaker 3: I right, is evil.

2:29:48 Speaker 2: I don't understand why. Okay, you have a wall or

2:29:52 Speaker 2: you have a you know, I built five hundred and

2:29:54 Speaker 2: seventy miles a wall. Everyone said, I built a lot

2:29:57 Speaker 2: of wool, exactly the stuff, But you have a border.

2:30:01 Speaker 2: What I don't understand is who would want people to

2:30:04 Speaker 2: come into our country from places unknown? Like sometimes they'll

2:30:08 Speaker 2: say about a fighter from parts unknown? Right, remember Haystex

2:30:13 Speaker 2: and from parts parts the oldest those are the that's

2:30:17 Speaker 2: even before you. But who would want people to come

2:30:21 Speaker 2: in pouring into our country? We don't know anything about it.

2:30:26 Speaker 3: But that's I want to ask you this. Why do

2:30:28 Speaker 3: you think they're doing that? I think because do you

2:30:30 Speaker 3: think they're trying to buy votes? Do you think they're

2:30:32 Speaker 3: just labor?

2:30:34 Speaker 2: Like?

2:30:34 Speaker 3: What is?

2:30:34 Speaker 2: What's there's a couple of theories. They hate our country,

2:30:38 Speaker 2: they're stupid, or they want to buy votes. It's one

2:30:41 Speaker 2: of those three things. Yeah, they want it now. They

2:30:43 Speaker 2: are trying to get people registered who you know, don't

2:30:46 Speaker 2: even know what the country.

2:30:46 Speaker 3: And they're trying to give people amnesty. People that live here,

2:30:49 Speaker 3: they're trying to give them.

2:30:50 Speaker 2: They want to give them citizenship or they want to, well,

2:30:52 Speaker 2: how about what do you.

2:30:53 Speaker 3: Think about the amount of money that they've given them

2:30:55 Speaker 3: when they've come here, the food stamps, the benefits that

2:30:58 Speaker 3: even our poor people aren't getting two.

2:30:59 Speaker 2: Hundred billion dollars And that's a way low number. That's

2:31:03 Speaker 2: a way low. You know. It's interesting. New York has

2:31:05 Speaker 2: always been like, you know, sort of like always looking

2:31:09 Speaker 2: for money. They've spent one hundred billion dollars on this stuff.

2:31:13 Speaker 2: I don't know where they and they're not getting the

2:31:15 Speaker 2: money from the federal government. It's crazy. And because the

2:31:18 Speaker 2: mayor came out and said we can't.

2:31:22 Speaker 3: Live like this, they investigated him.

2:31:25 Speaker 2: He gets it, by the way I called it, I said,

2:31:28 Speaker 2: he just got himself and dit it. This group is stupid,

2:31:32 Speaker 2: but they're vicious. They're stupid people, but they're vicious people.

2:31:35 Speaker 3: Twenty elections. You say, you have all this evidence that

2:31:39 Speaker 3: it was rigged. Why haven't you put this evidence in

2:31:43 Speaker 3: a consumed form? And what?

2:31:45 Speaker 2: Oh? I did I have? I have books on it,

2:31:47 Speaker 2: and by the way, books have been written on it.

2:31:51 Speaker 2: We have an author named Hemingway who is a great writer.

2:31:55 Speaker 2: She wrote a book on it. But many books have

2:31:58 Speaker 2: been written on it. There are books that are are.

2:32:01 Speaker 2: What's happened is judges don't want to touch it. They

2:32:04 Speaker 2: would say you don't have standing. They didn't rule in

2:32:07 Speaker 2: the merits they ruled the merits never got there. The

2:32:11 Speaker 2: judges didn't have what it took to turn over at all.

2:32:17 Speaker 3: Let's let's talk about the potential vulnerabilities for elections an

2:32:20 Speaker 3: election fraud. One of them is mail in ballots. The

2:32:23 Speaker 3: other one is the if someone could break into voting machines,

2:32:28 Speaker 3: if someone.

2:32:29 Speaker 2: Can hack tho machines.

2:32:30 Speaker 3: Those are two huge ones.

2:32:32 Speaker 2: So I think he said it public guy. I hope

2:32:37 Speaker 2: he did, because I wouldn't want to be the winner.

2:32:38 Speaker 2: But he's a really smart guy. And he's a very

2:32:42 Speaker 2: good guy with computers. Right, you'd say he's one of

2:32:44 Speaker 2: the smartest people a lot, anybody that can land that

2:32:47 Speaker 2: twenty story building and perfect.

2:32:49 Speaker 3: And while he's doing starlink, while he's talking to Twitter,

2:32:53 Speaker 3: and then he agrees to starlink and tweets one hundred

2:32:55 Speaker 3: times a day.

2:32:56 Speaker 2: He's an amazing guy. He said to me that unless

2:33:01 Speaker 2: you have paper ballots, it can never be an honest election.

2:33:04 Speaker 2: That's a big statement, it's a big streatment. We should

2:33:07 Speaker 2: go to paper ballots. You know France did. They went

2:33:10 Speaker 2: the mail in voting and it was all messed up.

2:33:13 Speaker 2: We can the amazing thing with the machines. So we

2:33:16 Speaker 2: have the machines. They cost ten times where paper ballot

2:33:19 Speaker 2: would cost eight percent, And they make paper ballots. They're

2:33:22 Speaker 2: all water marked and everything else, very sophisticated. But if

2:33:25 Speaker 2: you take a look paper ballots, eight percent the cost

2:33:30 Speaker 2: and you're done by nine o'clock in the evening. Right now,

2:33:33 Speaker 2: we have the sophisticated machine. It goes up to heaven,

2:33:36 Speaker 2: it goes all over the place and down and around,

2:33:39 Speaker 2: and they say we'll need two weeks to figure out

2:33:41 Speaker 2: who to hell won the election.

2:33:42 Speaker 3: Do you think that's by design?

2:33:44 Speaker 2: Yeah? I do think I think it's very crooked. That's

2:33:46 Speaker 2: my opinion.

2:33:47 Speaker 3: You're allowed to have an opinion. What could let's say

2:33:50 Speaker 3: you win in November. What can be done to mitigate

2:33:54 Speaker 3: these problems? What could be done at a you know,

2:33:58 Speaker 3: at the level that the president has power.

2:34:00 Speaker 2: Well, if I win, that'll be this will be my

2:34:02 Speaker 2: last election. But I think I owe it to the country. Yeah,

2:34:06 Speaker 2: but I think I owe it to the country. We

2:34:08 Speaker 2: have to have fair elections.

2:34:09 Speaker 3: So how can you fix that?

2:34:10 Speaker 2: You know, Jimmy Carter was in charge of a commission,

2:34:13 Speaker 2: you know that many years ago, and they put him

2:34:16 Speaker 2: in Scoop Jacks and various senators, you know, distinguished people

2:34:20 Speaker 2: that will retire, and they came up with a report.

2:34:23 Speaker 2: And the report's primary finding was you cannot have mail

2:34:27 Speaker 2: in ballots because if it's a mail in ballot. You know,

2:34:31 Speaker 2: I went to the voting booth the last time, whatever

2:34:33 Speaker 2: it was, and I walked in in Palm Beach and

2:34:36 Speaker 2: I walk in and they know me. They said, mister President,

2:34:40 Speaker 2: could I see your identity? Guess boom, here's this, here's that, everything,

2:34:44 Speaker 2: And then you sit and they watch you sign and

2:34:48 Speaker 2: you really there's not a lot you can do. I mean,

2:34:50 Speaker 2: if you want it to be dishonest, it's sort of

2:34:52 Speaker 2: beautiful if instead of that, I'm going to send them

2:34:55 Speaker 2: a ballot. Right, it has to go through the Postal services,

2:35:00 Speaker 2: has to go through a lot of people. They mail

2:35:02 Speaker 2: you houses that you know, the house was demolished and

2:35:05 Speaker 2: the people have left and it's so bad. The one

2:35:09 Speaker 2: thing with Jimmy Carter, he had a very strong commission.

2:35:13 Speaker 2: Who's no mail in bouts And we're the only one

2:35:17 Speaker 2: that does elections this way anymore. They've gotten away from it.

2:35:19 Speaker 3: And this is a it ticked up in a big

2:35:21 Speaker 3: way after COVID. It used to be like soldiers serving

2:35:24 Speaker 3: over seas.

2:35:24 Speaker 2: They used COVID to cheat.

2:35:25 Speaker 3: Yeah, well they used COVID to certainly push this mail

2:35:28 Speaker 3: in bollot another thing.

2:35:29 Speaker 2: That's but they used COVID to cheat. And the last

2:35:33 Speaker 2: election was a little bit of a You couldn't even

2:35:36 Speaker 2: get security guys, big strong guys to watch, you know what,

2:35:40 Speaker 2: you'd call them, they call them in this issue. They

2:35:42 Speaker 2: were afraid to go out. You know, we had we

2:35:44 Speaker 2: were in the middle of COVID. We were in the

2:35:47 Speaker 2: middle of COVID, right smack in the middle, and they

2:35:50 Speaker 2: didn't want to die, you know, they didn't want to

2:35:52 Speaker 2: catch it. It was like, in a way, it was

2:35:55 Speaker 2: it was like a ghost town and the whole thing.

2:36:00 Speaker 2: But mail in ballots are a bad thing bad.

2:36:02 Speaker 3: That certainly is a problem. Mal mail in ballots are

2:36:05 Speaker 3: problems A voter idea, how about are ID is the

2:36:10 Speaker 3: most bizarre argument that I've never seen anybody articulate in

2:36:14 Speaker 3: a way that's convincing, because I don't cheap voter. Well,

2:36:17 Speaker 3: it doesn't make sense any other way. I've tried to

2:36:20 Speaker 3: straw man it or I tried to steal man it. Rather,

2:36:22 Speaker 3: I've tried to like look at it from a position

2:36:24 Speaker 3: like why would you not want people to have ID?

2:36:27 Speaker 3: And a lot of the ideas are just ridiculous, ID

2:36:31 Speaker 3: to get a driver's life.

2:36:32 Speaker 2: But here's now the next step. Gavin Nuskemb one of

2:36:36 Speaker 2: the worst governors in the world. And I used to frankly,

2:36:39 Speaker 2: I used to get along, but I don't get along

2:36:41 Speaker 2: with him because he's just too you know, it's just

2:36:43 Speaker 2: a whole con job. But Gavin Nuskemb the other day

2:36:47 Speaker 2: signed a bill that you are not allowed to ask

2:36:50 Speaker 2: a person even ask them whether or not they have

2:36:53 Speaker 2: a voter ID.

2:36:54 Speaker 3: Now, what could be a charitable reason? Why any because

2:36:57 Speaker 3: they want to achieve that would be the only thing

2:36:59 Speaker 3: that makes.

2:37:00 Speaker 2: That's taken it to the next level right now, you know,

2:37:03 Speaker 2: you have ID. The Democrat National Convention when they had

2:37:07 Speaker 2: it the last time I saw, they had a sign

2:37:10 Speaker 2: like a billboard or the name of the person, where

2:37:13 Speaker 2: they live, how they live, who they held their boyfriends,

2:37:16 Speaker 2: every single it was and a big picture. That's for there.

2:37:21 Speaker 2: They have an idea, a big idea. It was hanging

2:37:24 Speaker 2: like you were a prisoner. They had these massive cards everything.

2:37:29 Speaker 2: And yet when it comes to the vote, in theory,

2:37:31 Speaker 2: the most important thing we do. Okay, when you go

2:37:33 Speaker 2: to a grocery store, you give ID. But for a vote,

2:37:37 Speaker 2: it's supposed to be a sacred thing, and it should

2:37:39 Speaker 2: be a sacred thing. No voter ID because they want

2:37:42 Speaker 2: to cheat.

2:37:43 Speaker 3: Well, it doesn't make sense in any other way. I've

2:37:46 Speaker 3: tried to look at it, no other way. There's no

2:37:49 Speaker 3: argument that anybody's presented that makes any sense.

2:37:51 Speaker 2: Why, you know, the funny thing, Joe, the Democrats, the people,

2:37:54 Speaker 2: they all think you should have it. In other words,

2:37:56 Speaker 2: you should have Yeah, if you go to the people,

2:37:59 Speaker 2: Missus Schwartz, Missus Smith, mister and missus Jones, sure, they say,

2:38:03 Speaker 2: of course you are Democrats, they say yes. It's the

2:38:07 Speaker 2: politicians that don't want it, like Schumer and these guys.

2:38:09 Speaker 2: They don't want it because they want to be able

2:38:11 Speaker 2: to cheat, because you know what if they didn't have it, Okay,

2:38:15 Speaker 2: who is going to vote for somebody that wants open borders.

2:38:18 Speaker 2: Who's going to vote for somebody that wants to have

2:38:21 Speaker 2: men playing in women's sports? You know, I have never

2:38:24 Speaker 2: had one person come up to me and say, President,

2:38:28 Speaker 2: you got to do something to allow men to play

2:38:30 Speaker 2: in women's sports. Have you ever, just like I've never

2:38:34 Speaker 2: been called by apolster. I told you by little theory

2:38:36 Speaker 2: and polsters. Okay, I'm getting myself in trouble with some

2:38:38 Speaker 2: of these things, but I don't really care. Nobody's ever

2:38:42 Speaker 2: come up to me and said, we want to have

2:38:45 Speaker 2: men play in women's sports. And you know, I had

2:38:50 Speaker 2: a funny thing at a property own I own in California.

2:38:54 Speaker 2: I have a woman who's a very good athlete and

2:38:56 Speaker 2: she works there as a manager. And Brian Erlacker, the

2:38:59 Speaker 2: big Chicago Bears, great player, you know, ten time all

2:39:04 Speaker 2: so I guess Hall of Fame, a great guy, big

2:39:06 Speaker 2: strong guy, and she said, oh, he's one of my

2:39:10 Speaker 2: favorite athletes. Can I have a picture? And I took

2:39:12 Speaker 2: a picture and I said it and I noticed she

2:39:14 Speaker 2: was the size of his leg. His leg was bigger

2:39:16 Speaker 2: than she was, And I put it out, should men

2:39:20 Speaker 2: play in women's But the whole it is just so ridiculous.

2:39:23 Speaker 3: What's one of the most bizarre and polarizing ideas that's

2:39:27 Speaker 3: promoted by the.

2:39:27 Speaker 2: Lawe who wants it now. Unless you're gonna cheat in elections,

2:39:31 Speaker 2: you're never gonna get Nobody wants it. I don't think

2:39:34 Speaker 2: anybody wants it. I've never I've been told everything you

2:39:36 Speaker 2: know you can. Some people want this. I don't know

2:39:40 Speaker 2: of anybody that wants open borders. Nobody's ever come up

2:39:42 Speaker 2: to me and say, President, you got to let the

2:39:44 Speaker 2: world come into our country right now. If they won,

2:39:48 Speaker 2: so they have twenty one million, I think it's much harder.

2:39:50 Speaker 2: Not because you have got aways, you know, got aways

2:39:51 Speaker 2: where they just walk in they work it. But and

2:39:54 Speaker 2: the other thing you have is human traffickers. You have

2:39:56 Speaker 2: traffickers and the traffic and women and they're going wild.

2:40:00 Speaker 2: Now we used to work.

2:40:01 Speaker 3: You know.

2:40:02 Speaker 2: You have to look the trunk of cars. Can you

2:40:04 Speaker 2: believe it? They put women in trunks. That put three

2:40:06 Speaker 2: women in a trunk. These people are savages. They're horrible,

2:40:09 Speaker 2: the worst people. And they're making the kind of money

2:40:13 Speaker 2: they make on drugs, they're almost making on trafficking now.

2:40:16 Speaker 2: And the thing that's made it hot is the Internet.

2:40:19 Speaker 2: That's what you think of it almost as an ancient thing,

2:40:23 Speaker 2: but it's the internet. But who would want to have

2:40:25 Speaker 2: these things? Who would want to have. There's so many

2:40:27 Speaker 2: the transgender operations where they're allowed to take your child

2:40:32 Speaker 2: when he goes to school and turn him into a

2:40:35 Speaker 2: male to a female without parental consent. Who wants this?

2:40:40 Speaker 2: Does anybody want this? I've never heard of anyone. And

2:40:42 Speaker 2: I can go into ten different things. The only way

2:40:46 Speaker 2: they get them is by no voter idea. You can't

2:40:50 Speaker 2: have voter id. They don't want any They want to cheat.

2:40:53 Speaker 2: There's only one reason, because the voter ID is so basic.

2:40:58 Speaker 2: It's the most basic.

2:40:59 Speaker 3: Thing, very basic.

2:41:00 Speaker 2: Who would want this? They want it so they can

2:41:03 Speaker 2: cheat because their policies are no good. I'll tell you

2:41:07 Speaker 2: they're very smart when it comes to that. They're very smart,

2:41:10 Speaker 2: although they're not smart in terms of politics in a way,

2:41:14 Speaker 2: because what do they have that people want? They really

2:41:17 Speaker 2: don't have. They give away a lot of healthcare, a

2:41:19 Speaker 2: lot of stuff, but for the most part, their policies

2:41:22 Speaker 2: are terrible. Their policy are on military. She's running on

2:41:25 Speaker 2: a taxik. She's going to raise your taxes. You got

2:41:27 Speaker 2: to hear this. We are going to raise your taxes

2:41:30 Speaker 2: and the peoples lap. But who is going to win

2:41:34 Speaker 2: with her? All my life, I grew up with politicians

2:41:37 Speaker 2: lower taxes. She's politic in that we are going to

2:41:42 Speaker 2: raise your taxes.

2:41:43 Speaker 3: Well, they want to raise the ideas. They want to

2:41:45 Speaker 3: raise the taxes to the highest urn.

2:41:47 Speaker 2: I know, but it really doesn't.

2:41:49 Speaker 3: Billionaires are not paying their fair share.

2:41:51 Speaker 2: But it doesn't work that way.

2:41:52 Speaker 3: Well, it's a narrative, right, and it's a narrative that

2:41:54 Speaker 3: appeals to people that are not doing well. And like, yeah,

2:41:57 Speaker 3: our problems are that these rich people are not paying taxes.

2:42:00 Speaker 2: Well, the problems are the rich people are going to

2:42:01 Speaker 2: leave and they're going to close up their companies, and

2:42:03 Speaker 2: then the other people aren't going to have jobs. You know,

2:42:05 Speaker 2: that's what happens.

2:42:06 Speaker 3: It does happen in other countries.

2:42:08 Speaker 2: But the whole because you brought it up, I'll tell

2:42:10 Speaker 2: you what we just He's doing a very good job

2:42:14 Speaker 2: in Virginia, Glenn Younkin. I don't know if you like

2:42:16 Speaker 2: him not Like I don't know, but you don't. I'm

2:42:19 Speaker 2: the governor of Virginia. So we have a case where

2:42:22 Speaker 2: they found thousands of illegal ballots. A judge just ruled

2:42:27 Speaker 2: that they have to be able to vote. Just happened today.

2:42:30 Speaker 2: Just before I walked in here, I heard a judge

2:42:33 Speaker 2: just ruled that you have to keep those people in.

2:42:37 Speaker 2: They're illegal. They're illegal votes. Now I think they'll be

2:42:41 Speaker 2: overturned at the next court. One thing I found, because

2:42:44 Speaker 2: I had a couple of things, that they get overturned

2:42:45 Speaker 2: a little bit, you know, the system. Because the system,

2:42:48 Speaker 2: you have to hope that the appellate judges are honest.

2:42:53 Speaker 2: Otherwise we don't have a country anymore. Very important, but

2:42:57 Speaker 2: the whole thing with illegal ballots has got to be

2:42:59 Speaker 2: looked at. You got to have you have to have

2:43:01 Speaker 2: voter ID, and you have to have additional idea. You

2:43:04 Speaker 2: have to have an idea that shows that you're a

2:43:05 Speaker 2: citizen of the country. They don't want that either.

2:43:08 Speaker 3: I agree. One of the things that I wanted to

2:43:11 Speaker 3: talk to you about is the JFK files, And one

2:43:14 Speaker 3: of the things that you said was that if they

2:43:16 Speaker 3: showed you what they showed me, this is your quote,

2:43:19 Speaker 3: you wouldn't want people to know it either.

2:43:24 Speaker 2: So I opened them up. Partially, I was met with

2:43:31 Speaker 2: from good people. I mean, you know, look, I mean

2:43:33 Speaker 2: good people. People that were well meeting. Mike Pompeo was

2:43:38 Speaker 2: one of them. He's a good person. They called me,

2:43:42 Speaker 2: they said, Sarah would rather have you not after and

2:43:46 Speaker 2: I did open him, but I was asked by some

2:43:49 Speaker 2: people not to open them. There's a Martin Luther King

2:43:52 Speaker 2: file too, by the way, that they'd like to see.

2:43:54 Speaker 2: I don't know if you know, but there is that,

2:43:57 Speaker 2: but JFK in particular, So they called me. A lot

2:44:01 Speaker 2: of good people called me people that I you know

2:44:04 Speaker 2: that you would find reasonable people, and they asked me

2:44:07 Speaker 2: not to do it. So I said, well, we'll close

2:44:09 Speaker 2: it for another time, but if I went, I'm going

2:44:12 Speaker 2: to open them up. I'm just going to open enough

2:44:15 Speaker 2: at times addresses people that are still living. There are

2:44:20 Speaker 2: people that are affected, and there could be some national

2:44:24 Speaker 2: security reason that for you know that I don't have

2:44:27 Speaker 2: to necessarily know about. But some very good, talented people

2:44:30 Speaker 2: asked me not to do it. I opened it up,

2:44:33 Speaker 2: and then they said, would it be possible for us

2:44:36 Speaker 2: to do that a different day?

2:44:38 Speaker 3: How much did you read into.

2:44:44 Speaker 2: I think it's going to be just fine to open it.

2:44:45 Speaker 2: Let me put it that way. I think it's fine.

2:44:47 Speaker 2: It's going to be time. It's a cleansing, you know,

2:44:49 Speaker 2: it's really a cleansing. So I'm going to do it.

2:44:51 Speaker 2: I'm going to do it immediately, almost immediately upon entering office.

2:44:55 Speaker 3: Well, the thing when people look at it from the

2:44:57 Speaker 3: outside and you sort of imagine what could be a

2:45:01 Speaker 3: reason why they would not release those files, it would

2:45:05 Speaker 3: be there's people that were implicated assassination.

2:45:09 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, when they're living people, you generally tend not

2:45:13 Speaker 2: to want to do it. When people are still living.

2:45:16 Speaker 3: Living people that formerly work for the government, for.

2:45:18 Speaker 2: The government, and living people that were somehow involved in it,

2:45:21 Speaker 2: and you tend not to do that. But it's time

2:45:24 Speaker 2: to open them. I can't tell you whether or not

2:45:28 Speaker 2: they're going to find anything of interest. And I did

2:45:30 Speaker 2: partially open I think I've opened fifty percent, but I

2:45:35 Speaker 2: was asked not to do it, and I thought that

2:45:38 Speaker 2: was a reasonable list. But now I'm going to do it.

2:45:39 Speaker 2: I'm going to do it very soon. There's a lot

2:45:41 Speaker 2: of interest in it.

2:45:42 Speaker 3: One of the things that there's a lot.

2:45:43 Speaker 2: Of interest in the people coming from space. You know, yes,

2:45:48 Speaker 2: and I know you're interested.

2:45:49 Speaker 3: Oh, very interested in that. How much do they tell

2:45:50 Speaker 3: you about that?

2:45:51 Speaker 2: A lot?

2:45:52 Speaker 3: Really? Yeah, Well they tell you how much can you

2:45:55 Speaker 3: tell you?

2:45:55 Speaker 1: So?

2:45:56 Speaker 3: How's that work is? It's like super top secret? Tell me?

2:45:59 Speaker 2: Well, based on Biden I can say whatever the hell

2:46:01 Speaker 2: I want right now. But I interviewed a few people.

2:46:05 Speaker 2: It's never been my thing. I have to be honest.

2:46:07 Speaker 2: I have never been a believer. I have people that

2:46:09 Speaker 2: Area fifty one or whatever it is. I think it's

2:46:12 Speaker 2: a number one tourist attraction in the whole country or something.

2:46:15 Speaker 2: Area fifty one. Let's fat. Do you know that right? Sure?

2:46:17 Speaker 3: I know what it is, so anyway.

2:46:19 Speaker 2: But it's a big tourist. So I interviewed jet pilots

2:46:25 Speaker 2: that say they saw something. If you saw them, you'd

2:46:29 Speaker 2: love to have them. Miss.

2:46:30 Speaker 3: I've had a couple in here. Commander David Fraver, Yeah,

2:46:33 Speaker 3: I had him and who had that sighting in two

2:46:35 Speaker 3: thousand and four, very very compelling with visuals, video evidence,

2:46:39 Speaker 3: radar evidence.

2:46:40 Speaker 2: I don't believe his name. But I interviewed jet pilots

2:46:46 Speaker 2: that were solid people, perfect, I mean, great pilots, great everything,

2:46:52 Speaker 2: And they said, we saw things, sir, that we're very strange,

2:46:58 Speaker 2: like a round ball. But it wasn't a cop or

2:47:00 Speaker 2: a media. It was something. And it was going four

2:47:04 Speaker 2: times faster than an F twenty two, which is a

2:47:06 Speaker 2: very fast plant, you know, and it was around which

2:47:11 Speaker 2: is an in theory of great shape.

2:47:13 Speaker 3: So when you were talking to these people, was this

2:47:17 Speaker 3: something that you were compelled to have conversations about. Was

2:47:20 Speaker 3: this your personal interest a little bit.

2:47:22 Speaker 2: It's not a great interest for me, but it's a

2:47:24 Speaker 2: little interest. I get that question as much as almost

2:47:27 Speaker 2: any question. Do you think that we have aliens coming,

2:47:30 Speaker 2: you know, flying around or whatever?

2:47:32 Speaker 3: What? Do you think?

2:47:35 Speaker 2: There's no reason not to I mean, there's no reason

2:47:38 Speaker 2: not to think that Mars and all these planets don't

2:47:40 Speaker 2: have life, you know, because.

2:47:42 Speaker 3: Well Mars, we've had probes there and rovers and I

2:47:45 Speaker 3: don't think there's any life there.

2:47:46 Speaker 2: Well, maybe it's life that we don't know about.

2:47:47 Speaker 3: Well, maybe there was a life there at one point

2:47:49 Speaker 3: in time. This is a speculation about Mars. That Mars

2:47:52 Speaker 3: had an atmosphere at one point in time, a long

2:47:55 Speaker 3: time ago that could support life. It also had large

2:47:58 Speaker 3: bodies of water. But we've had no evidence of even

2:48:01 Speaker 3: bacterial life that exists on Mars. But the universe has

2:48:04 Speaker 3: been a big thing for me.

2:48:05 Speaker 2: I mean, when I looked at what China did to

2:48:07 Speaker 2: this admit they would have never done it with me.

2:48:09 Speaker 2: Where they put the balloon up, and a lot of

2:48:11 Speaker 2: people that and a lot of people thought for a

2:48:13 Speaker 2: little while that that was one of these things.

2:48:15 Speaker 3: So that's a lot of the speculation too, that some

2:48:17 Speaker 3: of these drones that hover over battleships, that these are

2:48:20 Speaker 3: Chinese drones, and that they're not UFOs.

2:48:22 Speaker 2: They could be also, there's some super sufficient I did

2:48:24 Speaker 2: interview let's say, three or four guys that and without

2:48:29 Speaker 2: tremendous interest. If you had them, as I said, you'd

2:48:35 Speaker 2: love to have me as your children. Solid beautiful people.

2:48:40 Speaker 2: They said, sir, there's something there. You know, they've there's something.

2:48:44 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I've talked to quite.

2:48:45 Speaker 2: A few of about conspiracy guys.

2:48:47 Speaker 3: Well, I mean the just the Commander David Fraver thing

2:48:50 Speaker 3: in two thousand and four off the coast of San Diego.

2:48:52 Speaker 3: They clocked that thing going from fifty thousand feet above

2:48:54 Speaker 3: sea level to fifty in a second. They don't know

2:48:57 Speaker 3: what it is.

2:48:57 Speaker 2: It's stuff to be.

2:48:58 Speaker 3: Yeah, they saw some thing in the water. It was

2:49:01 Speaker 3: hovering over that something that was making a disturbance in

2:49:03 Speaker 3: the water. They got video evidence of this thing. Two

2:49:07 Speaker 3: different fighter jets with pilots in them saw it. There's

2:49:11 Speaker 3: you know, visual evidence, photographic evidence, video evidence, radar evidence,

2:49:15 Speaker 3: whatever the hell it is. It moves in a way

2:49:17 Speaker 3: that would turn a human being in a jello app

2:49:19 Speaker 3: you're inside of it, the g force, no one would survive.

2:49:22 Speaker 3: What is that? And we don't It doesn't have a

2:49:24 Speaker 3: heating his signature. They don't know what their propulsion system was.

2:49:28 Speaker 2: But when you fly in some of these jets, these

2:49:32 Speaker 2: pilots have to be in great shape.

2:49:34 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I flew with the Blue Angels once to

2:49:37 Speaker 3: fly and those are older machines and they're crazy.

2:49:41 Speaker 2: When you when you fly in somebody's things, Oh my god, yeah, yeah,

2:49:44 Speaker 2: I can imagine. You got to be special.

2:49:46 Speaker 3: But these things that these people are incounting are far

2:49:48 Speaker 3: superior to what we know of. Is it possible that

2:49:52 Speaker 3: there's some military or government program that you weren't that

2:49:57 Speaker 3: they didn't tell you about.

2:50:00 Speaker 2: I think I had a great relationship with the military basically,

2:50:03 Speaker 2: but you know, I didn't like certain people. I would

2:50:05 Speaker 2: have gotten them out if I thought if I were

2:50:08 Speaker 2: if the election was different, I would have fired, you know,

2:50:11 Speaker 2: all of them quickly, something most of them I did

2:50:14 Speaker 2: for her. Biden should have fired every military person involved

2:50:18 Speaker 2: with Afghanistan. He should have had a lot of fiaries.

2:50:21 Speaker 2: You know, if you look at him, he told Israel

2:50:23 Speaker 2: not to do anything. At least Israel is not going

2:50:25 Speaker 2: to look in at a bomb the way they would

2:50:27 Speaker 2: have been. Think if they listened to Biden, they'd be

2:50:30 Speaker 2: waiting for a bomb to drop on their head. Right now,

2:50:33 Speaker 2: He's been wrong about so much. I guess you'd have

2:50:35 Speaker 2: to say that she's been wrong too, because you know,

2:50:38 Speaker 2: she always said they made the decision together, but Israel

2:50:43 Speaker 2: didn't follow his advice. And I think it was a

2:50:46 Speaker 2: very you know, it's a very The Middle East is

2:50:49 Speaker 2: rapidly changing. You know, there are prophets to say the

2:50:53 Speaker 2: world will come to an end in the Middle East.

2:50:56 Speaker 2: You know that. And we have weapons to that are

2:51:00 Speaker 2: so scary when you look I rebuilt them all. And

2:51:04 Speaker 2: when you look at the weapons we have today, the

2:51:06 Speaker 2: biggest threat we have in the world today is nuclear weapons.

2:51:10 Speaker 2: And we have other weapons too that are devastated, but

2:51:13 Speaker 2: the nuclear weapons the biggest threat we have in the

2:51:15 Speaker 2: world today. And that's what you I was talking about

2:51:20 Speaker 2: de escalation with both China and Russia. I'm telling you

2:51:25 Speaker 2: we were going to de escalate, They were going to

2:51:26 Speaker 2: de escalate. You got to be careful. We are a

2:51:28 Speaker 2: little tricky playing with them because they say we're going

2:51:31 Speaker 2: to do it and they don't do it. Maybe, but

2:51:34 Speaker 2: they understood the curse too. It's a curse. It's China's

2:51:37 Speaker 2: way behind us, but they'll catch us within five years.

2:51:40 Speaker 3: So let's imagine. Let's let's say you win in November.

2:51:44 Speaker 3: What do you do differently and how do you change

2:51:46 Speaker 3: this course that it seems we are on for World

2:51:49 Speaker 3: War three? How do you get us out of Ukraine?

2:51:52 Speaker 3: How do you stop what's going on in the Middle East?

2:51:54 Speaker 3: How do you put a stop to us?

2:51:56 Speaker 2: Well, it's a very to me. It's an easy question

2:52:00 Speaker 2: because I think I can do it easily. But it's

2:52:02 Speaker 2: a complex question in the sense that the times change.

2:52:05 Speaker 2: Every day changes who's winning, who's not winning. I mean,

2:52:11 Speaker 2: Rush is a war machine, whether you like it or not,

2:52:14 Speaker 2: it just grinds along, grinds along. You speak to people

2:52:17 Speaker 2: like Victor Roban, you'll tell you it's just a big

2:52:21 Speaker 2: fat war machine. And that's what's happening. You look at

2:52:24 Speaker 2: what's happened to Ukraine. If I were there, it would

2:52:27 Speaker 2: have never happened.

2:52:28 Speaker 3: But what could you do if you get in an

2:52:31 Speaker 3: office right now, could you do now.

2:52:33 Speaker 2: Right now, you would get both of them. I know

2:52:36 Speaker 2: both very well, and again I cannot. I do not

2:52:40 Speaker 2: want to tell you, you know, for the purpose of

2:52:42 Speaker 2: looking smart to five people that you know that say,

2:52:45 Speaker 2: oh he was great, because if I told you exactly

2:52:49 Speaker 2: what I do, I could I could never make the deal.

2:52:52 Speaker 2: All I can tell you is that I would meet

2:52:54 Speaker 2: with Putin, and I would meet with him, and I

2:52:55 Speaker 2: know exactly what I'd say to each one of them,

2:52:58 Speaker 2: and I believe that as president elect, I would get

2:53:01 Speaker 2: that war stopped and stopped fast. You know, we have

2:53:05 Speaker 2: tremendous power in the United States if you know how

2:53:07 Speaker 2: to use the power. I stopped other wars just by

2:53:10 Speaker 2: the use of tariffs. I got macrone of France. Good

2:53:14 Speaker 2: guys like a friend of mine, but he's a wise guy,

2:53:18 Speaker 2: and he's a person that likes France. Said he was

2:53:21 Speaker 2: going to tax our companies. I say, and I said,

2:53:23 Speaker 2: all the smartest guys I sent minution, they all failed me,

2:53:27 Speaker 2: and I said, I'll do it myself. And I called them.

2:53:29 Speaker 2: I said, Emmanuel, you're taxing American companies. We're not going

2:53:33 Speaker 2: to allow you to do that. Oh Donald, I cannot

2:53:35 Speaker 2: do it. Do not think I could do. It's already

2:53:37 Speaker 2: been passed. I said, Emmanuel, if you do that, I'm

2:53:41 Speaker 2: going to put one hundred percent tariff when your wines

2:53:43 Speaker 2: and champagnes are coming to the United States, and you're

2:53:47 Speaker 2: going to regret that you ever did it. He said, Donald, please,

2:53:50 Speaker 2: that's not fair. Anyway. Within about two minutes, he dropped

2:53:53 Speaker 2: the whole thing, and it was massive amounts of money

2:53:55 Speaker 2: against American companies. I have to protect American countries.

2:53:58 Speaker 3: So why doesn't the body man?

2:54:00 Speaker 2: Because they're incompetent. They don't know how to talk. Look,

2:54:04 Speaker 2: they met in Alaska with the Chinese, and the Chinese

2:54:09 Speaker 2: lectured them about how badly we treat people. Right, Okay,

2:54:16 Speaker 2: let me think of it. You remember that, it was

2:54:18 Speaker 2: like they didn't talk to me that way. They respected me,

2:54:22 Speaker 2: they respected our country. They don't respect our country. They

2:54:25 Speaker 2: don't respect Biden. They don't respect her. They're dreaming about

2:54:30 Speaker 2: her because she's in competent. She's not a smart person. Look,

2:54:35 Speaker 2: she can't put two sentences together. She talks. I watch

2:54:38 Speaker 2: her two nights. I watched her last night too. It

2:54:41 Speaker 2: was the same thing. She's not a smart person. These

2:54:44 Speaker 2: guys are very smart and they're very street wise, and

2:54:47 Speaker 2: they're very tricky and evil and dangerous. And if she

2:54:51 Speaker 2: becomes the president of the United States, which I can't

2:54:55 Speaker 2: believe can happen, I don't think this country is going

2:54:59 Speaker 2: to make it. I don't think we'll ever be I

2:55:03 Speaker 2: think just really bad things will happen to our country.

2:55:06 Speaker 2: And you know what, I look at the outside forces

2:55:08 Speaker 2: and I say they can all be handled because we

2:55:11 Speaker 2: have a pot of gold. But we're not going to

2:55:13 Speaker 2: have that pot of gold to play with anymore. You know,

2:55:15 Speaker 2: it's a great negotiating thing. I told you I knocked

2:55:18 Speaker 2: out this massive car company going to take all of

2:55:21 Speaker 2: our car business from Detroit. I knocked it out just

2:55:25 Speaker 2: by my rhetoric. Rhetorically, I said, they'll never sell a

2:55:29 Speaker 2: car in here. I'll put tariffs. I don't care they

2:55:31 Speaker 2: are two thousand percent. They're never going to build that

2:55:34 Speaker 2: plant in Is.

2:55:34 Speaker 3: It possible to apply that same thing to the electronics

2:55:37 Speaker 3: that we use. One of the things that disturbs me

2:55:39 Speaker 3: greatly is that all of our phones are made overseas,

2:55:42 Speaker 3: and then some of our phones are made in places, yes,

2:55:45 Speaker 3: and the chips and some of our phones are made

2:55:47 Speaker 3: in places like Fox con where they have nets around

2:55:49 Speaker 3: the building to keep people from jumping off the roof

2:55:51 Speaker 3: because they have so many suicides. Like, wouldn't it be

2:55:54 Speaker 3: better to have an American made iPhone where you know,

2:55:56 Speaker 3: people are paid good wages, they have health insurance, they're

2:55:59 Speaker 3: taking care of they can live a good life where

2:56:01 Speaker 3: you're not buying a piece of electronics that's cheaper because

2:56:05 Speaker 3: someone has to suffer horrible in a horrible way. That's

2:56:08 Speaker 3: not even legal in the United States. It's not even

2:56:10 Speaker 3: legal to have them work that way in the United States.

2:56:13 Speaker 3: So they get these people to build them overseas.

2:56:15 Speaker 2: You do it. But let me just say that chip

2:56:18 Speaker 2: deals so bad. We put up billions of dollars for

2:56:20 Speaker 2: rich companies to come and borrow the money and build

2:56:24 Speaker 2: chip companies here, and they're not going to give us

2:56:26 Speaker 2: the good companies anyway. All you had to do is

2:56:29 Speaker 2: charge them tariffs. If you would have put a tariff

2:56:32 Speaker 2: on the chips coming in, you would have been able

2:56:35 Speaker 2: to just like the auto companies, no different, more sophisticated,

2:56:39 Speaker 2: but no different. You know, Taiwan, they stole our chip business. Okay,

2:56:45 Speaker 2: they want us to protect and they want protection. They

2:56:47 Speaker 2: don't pay us money for the protection. You know, the

2:56:50 Speaker 2: mob makes you pay money, right, but with these countries

2:56:53 Speaker 2: that we protect. I got hundreds of billions of dollars

2:56:57 Speaker 2: from NATO countries that were never paying us. And my

2:57:00 Speaker 2: biggest fan of Stoltenberg, who just left us the director

2:57:05 Speaker 2: general as a secretary general. Good guy, he said. Bush came,

2:57:10 Speaker 2: he made a speech. Obama came, he made a speech.

2:57:12 Speaker 2: Trump came. He said, you guys aren't paying. You got

2:57:14 Speaker 2: to pay. And they said, well, you protect us from

2:57:17 Speaker 2: Russia if we don't. I said, no, you got to pay.

2:57:19 Speaker 2: If you don't pay, billions of dollars came in to NATO.

2:57:24 Speaker 2: When I see us paying a lot of money to

2:57:26 Speaker 2: have people build chip that's not the way. You didn't

2:57:29 Speaker 2: have to put up ten cents. You could have done

2:57:31 Speaker 2: it with a series of tariffs. In other words, you

2:57:33 Speaker 2: tariff it's so high that they will come and build.

2:57:37 Speaker 2: They have chip companies for nothing. In other words, Joe,

2:57:41 Speaker 2: you put a big tariff on the chips coming in.

2:57:44 Speaker 2: I say, you don't have to pay the tariff. All

2:57:46 Speaker 2: you have to do is build your plant in the

2:57:47 Speaker 2: United States. We didn't have to give them the money

2:57:50 Speaker 2: to build a plant Besides that, they're very rich companies.

2:57:54 Speaker 2: These chip companies they stole. They stole ninety five percent

2:57:58 Speaker 2: of our business. It's in Taiwan right now. They do

2:58:01 Speaker 2: a great job, but that's only because we have stupid politicians.

2:58:04 Speaker 2: We lost the chip business and now we think we're

2:58:06 Speaker 2: going to pay. You can't build it that way. You

2:58:10 Speaker 2: have to make them spend their money in the United States.

2:58:12 Speaker 2: And those plans would open up all over and they'll

2:58:15 Speaker 2: fund them. We don't have to put up ten cents.

2:58:17 Speaker 2: And I am in the process of making a huge speech.

2:58:19 Speaker 2: It about a little while and you and how long

2:58:22 Speaker 2: have we been talking?

2:58:24 Speaker 3: Let's go three hours?

2:58:25 Speaker 2: I got to make a speech. But we'll do it again.

2:58:28 Speaker 2: I want to do it again with you. If you

2:58:29 Speaker 2: are something. They said, I said, how long will this last?

2:58:33 Speaker 2: Anywhere from an hour to three or four?

2:58:35 Speaker 3: How long? Jamie? Three hours?

2:58:38 Speaker 2: Good, Well, we'll do it again. I thought it was great.

2:58:40 Speaker 2: I think it's well. You are a fascinating guy, and

2:58:44 Speaker 2: you've done a great job. Thank you, fan, and thank

2:58:47 Speaker 2: you very much. It's been an honor.

2:58:48 Speaker 3: And I'm going to make.

2:58:50 Speaker 2: A great speech and I'm gonna say and if I'm

2:58:53 Speaker 2: a little off tonight, I'm going to blame you. I

2:58:55 Speaker 2: spoke to this guy for three hours. Anyway, it's a

2:58:58 Speaker 2: great honor to

2:58:59 Speaker 3: Be thank you, thank you, thank you, luck to you,

2:59:01 Speaker 3: thank you very thank you, all right, from everybody,