"A Plane DID not Hit the Pentagon. 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB" -First Responder Turned Investigator Adam Eisenberg |PT.1

0:04 Speaker 1: There's lunchtime in London, five am in Los Angeles and

0:08 Speaker 1: eight am here in New York live from the CNN

0:11 Speaker 1: Financial News headquarters.

0:12 Speaker 2: And then that it's kind of quiet around the country.

0:14 Speaker 3: We like quiet. It's quiet.

0:16 Speaker 4: It's too quiet.

0:16 Speaker 3: Oh, would you look at Washington.

0:18 Speaker 4: Huh?

0:18 Speaker 3: It is beautiful outside, perfect September day with lots of sunshine.

0:23 Speaker 5: This justin you were looking at obviously a very disturbing

0:26 Speaker 5: live shot there.

0:27 Speaker 3: That is the World Trade Center.

0:28 Speaker 4: Bit of the majoris in.

0:38 Speaker 5: Apparently a plane has crashed into the World Trades Center,

0:42 Speaker 5: New York.

0:42 Speaker 4: It does not appear that there's any kind of an

0:45 Speaker 4: effort up there yet.

0:46 Speaker 6: And now remember, oh my god.

0:50 Speaker 1: That looks like a second plane.

0:52 Speaker 4: Does a plane go in that that just exploded?

0:55 Speaker 1: I just saw another plane coming in from the.

0:57 Speaker 4: Side you did that was out of So that's.

1:00 Speaker 1: The second explosion. You could see the plane come in

1:03 Speaker 1: just from the right hand side of the screen. So

1:05 Speaker 1: this looks like it is some sort of a concerted

1:07 Speaker 1: effort to attack the World Trade Center that is underway.

1:14 Speaker 4: Very very quickly.

1:15 Speaker 3: There are more explosions put it down the building. This

1:18 Speaker 3: is so shocking, of course to everybody watching.

1:21 Speaker 5: I've never seen anything like it.

1:23 Speaker 3: It literally blew itself into a World Trade Center.

1:26 Speaker 7: Today, we've had a national tragedy. Two airplanes have crashed

1:32 Speaker 7: into the World Trade Center in an apparent terrorist attack

1:35 Speaker 7: on our country.

1:37 Speaker 2: And the Pentagon is being evacuated. There is a large

1:41 Speaker 2: fire there and that is the smoke you see in

1:43 Speaker 2: the shot that you were looking at now piers that

1:46 Speaker 2: an aircraft of some sort did hit the side of

1:49 Speaker 2: the Pentagon, and some people were shamie, I need you

1:52 Speaker 2: to stop for a second. There has just been a

1:54 Speaker 2: huge explosion. We can see a billowing smoke rising and

1:59 Speaker 2: I can't I'll tell you that I can't see that

2:01 Speaker 2: second tower.

2:05 Speaker 3: There's a haze everywhere. It's very, very difficult to see that.

2:09 Speaker 3: There has been a whole area has been covered by

2:12 Speaker 3: foot an act, a.

2:13 Speaker 5: Big bang, and then we saw smoke coming out, and

2:16 Speaker 5: everybody started running out, and we saw the plane on

2:19 Speaker 5: the other side of the building, and there was smoke everywhere,

2:22 Speaker 5: and people are jumping out the windows over there and

2:24 Speaker 5: jumping out the windows I guess because they're trying to

2:27 Speaker 5: see themselves.

2:28 Speaker 2: In the United Airlines flight I believe it is one

2:30 Speaker 2: seventy six went.

2:32 Speaker 7: Down freedom itself was attacked this morning by a faceless coward,

2:38 Speaker 7: and freedom will be defended.

2:41 Speaker 8: September eleventh, two thousand and one is one of the

2:44 Speaker 8: most documented events in modern history, and yet for many Americans,

2:48 Speaker 8: it remains one of the most questioned. Today's guest is

2:51 Speaker 8: not a politician, a pndon, not someone who's speaking from distance,

2:56 Speaker 8: or simply you know, conspiratorial angles out of sm Eisinberg

3:00 Speaker 8: was there that day, a firefighter and military servicemen deployed

3:04 Speaker 8: to the Pentagon in the direct aftermath of the attacks

3:07 Speaker 8: on September eleventh. Adam spent nearly two hundred and forty

3:10 Speaker 8: hours on site during one of the most chaotic and

3:13 Speaker 8: traumatic moments in American history. But it began as a

3:16 Speaker 8: service eventually became an investigation. Over the last two decades,

3:20 Speaker 8: Adam has pursued records, filed FOI requests, analyzed missing documentation,

3:25 Speaker 8: and connected what he believes are deeply troubling inconsistencies surrounding

3:31 Speaker 8: the official narrative of the nine to eleven attacks, from

3:34 Speaker 8: non disclosure agreement signed before deployment to missing military records,

3:38 Speaker 8: missing money trillions of dollars to unanswer questions surrounding the

3:43 Speaker 8: Pentagon itself. Adam claims, the deeper he has looked, the

3:47 Speaker 8: stranger the story has become. So Tonight's section will not

3:50 Speaker 8: be sensationalized, as it does not have to be. It's

3:53 Speaker 8: about a first hand experience institutional secrecy and press testimony,

3:58 Speaker 8: the uncomfortable possibility that some truth surrounding September eleventh may

4:03 Speaker 8: still remain buried beneath layers of buocracy, fear, and silence.

4:09 Speaker 3: This is total disclosure.

5:29 Speaker 6: M Adam, love him, nice to be here.

5:45 Speaker 4: Thank you for having me.

5:46 Speaker 8: Super happy that I was able to fly you, fly

5:48 Speaker 8: you into the Boston area today for this conversation. As

5:52 Speaker 8: you know, I just spoke to Patricia how to do

5:54 Speaker 8: it remotely. It's not that I don't enjoy those episodes.

5:57 Speaker 8: It's just when someone's right here, I can feel it.

6:00 Speaker 8: I can feel that electricity.

6:02 Speaker 3: So I just want to say thank you for for

6:03 Speaker 3: you know, coming into the area for the.

6:05 Speaker 6: Episode today, Thank you for everything, and.

6:07 Speaker 8: Thank you for service, you know, from talking just the

6:11 Speaker 8: little that we have. I was in third grade when

6:14 Speaker 8: nine to eleven occurred, so I was a young man,

6:17 Speaker 8: young boy, I should say. And again I just want

6:21 Speaker 8: to say thank you for the service that you've done.

6:23 Speaker 8: Can you give me a little bit about introduction of

6:25 Speaker 8: who you are and what led to the events of

6:28 Speaker 8: nine to eleven and you being there?

6:30 Speaker 4: Sure how that happened. Yeah, So, like a lot of you,

6:33 Speaker 4: I'm just a you know, middle class American raised in

6:38 Speaker 4: a public school environment, you know, very similar upbringing to

6:42 Speaker 4: most Americans. I decided after a year of college that

6:46 Speaker 4: I was going to pursue some time in the military.

6:49 Speaker 4: You know, College really just wasn't working out for me

6:51 Speaker 4: at that time. I did it, but I wasn't the

6:53 Speaker 4: greatest at it, and I really didn't know where I

6:55 Speaker 4: wanted to go with my life. And so I thought

6:57 Speaker 4: that the four years I could spend serving the country

6:59 Speaker 4: would be a good use of time to kind of,

7:02 Speaker 4: you know, sharpen my skills in a lot of ways.

7:04 Speaker 4: And so I went in as a as an infantryman,

7:07 Speaker 4: and I thought, you know, this is going to be

7:08 Speaker 4: a great opportunity to serve to do things I like

7:11 Speaker 4: to do. You know, I was nineteen at the time.

7:13 Speaker 4: You know, you couldn't really convince me to go any

7:16 Speaker 4: other route as far as my military direction was concerned.

7:19 Speaker 4: And did just that was was at Fort Benning doing

7:23 Speaker 4: a very good job, got my airborne wings, and originally

7:26 Speaker 4: I thought I was going to go to the seventy

7:27 Speaker 4: fifth Ranger Regiment, and that that point in our history,

7:31 Speaker 4: that unit was overstaffed with infantrymen. They didn't need them.

7:36 Speaker 4: If you were a intelligence specialist, a cook, if you

7:40 Speaker 4: were a medic, if you were any one of these

7:41 Speaker 4: other types of skill sets, you're probably going to make

7:44 Speaker 4: it through their course. But you know, they basically were

7:48 Speaker 4: letting infantrymen go, and so rather than going to needs

7:52 Speaker 4: of the army status, which they were sending people at

7:55 Speaker 4: that point in time to some of the worst places

7:57 Speaker 4: on earth that I just didn't want to go to.

7:59 Speaker 4: My buddy from the region said, you know, there's a

8:02 Speaker 4: there's a unit that's elite in Washington, d C. It's

8:05 Speaker 4: the third US Infantry, it's the Old Guard, And he

8:08 Speaker 4: had spoken with a recruiter that was on base about

8:10 Speaker 4: how they were taking people in and I thought, well,

8:12 Speaker 4: that sounds fantastic. Go to the nation's capital. And you know,

8:16 Speaker 4: I went and spoke to the recruiter and he talked

8:18 Speaker 4: about all the different things that made that unit elite,

8:21 Speaker 4: and he, of course sold me he said, there's a

8:23 Speaker 4: lot more women than there are men in that town.

8:25 Speaker 4: So at nineteen years old, that seemed like a really

8:27 Speaker 4: you know, twenty years old, that seemed like a very

8:29 Speaker 4: appealing thing. And so I got to Washington, d C.

8:33 Speaker 4: In August and that was a brand new you know,

8:37 Speaker 4: we called him new Dick. You know, I was a

8:39 Speaker 4: new Dick in the in the unit. And not even

8:41 Speaker 4: a month later, we were faced with this completely unexpected event.

8:46 Speaker 4: And you know, from that moment on, my life was

8:50 Speaker 4: never the same.

8:52 Speaker 3: Where were you when you first learned that America was attacked?

8:56 Speaker 4: So I was at Fort Meyer, Virginia. It was specifically

9:00 Speaker 4: con Mee Hall. We were spending our day engaged in

9:04 Speaker 4: preparation for a public outreach event that we had participated

9:08 Speaker 4: in every single year called the Spirit of America. And

9:12 Speaker 4: I was part of that effort. And you know, all

9:14 Speaker 4: of a sudden, we were on the outskirts of the

9:17 Speaker 4: base and we started to hear all these first response

9:20 Speaker 4: vehicles just flying by, one by one heading to the Pentagon.

9:24 Speaker 4: And then not long after that, the Fort and Meyer

9:27 Speaker 4: Fire Department, which was right across the road from Conmee

9:30 Speaker 4: Hall on Fort Meyer, Virginia, they too as well took

9:33 Speaker 4: off and you know, slowly but surely, you know, we

9:36 Speaker 4: you know, we started to hear the scuttle on our

9:38 Speaker 4: first Starteant you know, received a phone call called the

9:41 Speaker 4: Formation and said guys were under attack. And so that

9:45 Speaker 4: was that was where we were that day when it

9:47 Speaker 4: all went down.

9:49 Speaker 3: So was there any any question it was we are

9:52 Speaker 3: under attack? By that time it wasn't.

9:54 Speaker 8: There was no like this might have been an accident.

9:57 Speaker 8: This was hey, guys, where it's game time.

10:00 Speaker 4: We're under attack. I'll never forget that when he called

10:03 Speaker 4: the Formation, those were some of the first words he said,

10:04 Speaker 4: we are under attack. You know, we really didn't have

10:08 Speaker 4: the ability at that point in time at conne Hall

10:11 Speaker 4: to watch the TVs to see what was happening. We

10:13 Speaker 4: just knew that we had to get back to our installation.

10:16 Speaker 4: We were the one and only company that was in

10:18 Speaker 4: the regiment that was not stationed at Fort Meyer, Virginia.

10:22 Speaker 4: We were actually at Fort McNair, Washington, d C. Across

10:25 Speaker 4: the river, and so the very first thing we had

10:28 Speaker 4: to do was kind of get back to our base

10:30 Speaker 4: and you know, presumably wait for some second order. You know,

10:35 Speaker 4: people were saying a lot of things. We thought we

10:37 Speaker 4: were going to go out on a mission to patrol

10:39 Speaker 4: d C. There was a whole bunch of different I

10:42 Speaker 4: guess you could say, things that were happening at that

10:44 Speaker 4: point in time and until we finally were able to

10:47 Speaker 4: get back to our base, and you know, that's when,

10:49 Speaker 4: that's when I came across some anomalies, even before we

10:51 Speaker 4: ever went on site.

10:52 Speaker 8: I want to talk about those first because I kind

10:54 Speaker 8: of want to keep this as linear as possible in

10:57 Speaker 8: that sense, before you even know that the World Trade

11:01 Speaker 8: Center has been hit the way it has, what what anomalies?

11:05 Speaker 8: Because you had mentioned this what seemed odd about the

11:09 Speaker 8: days and weeks leading up? Was there anything that's stuck

11:12 Speaker 8: out in hindsight looking back, like, wait a second, why

11:15 Speaker 8: did that happen?

11:17 Speaker 4: Not anytime the day of, like before we ever went

11:22 Speaker 4: on site at on the Pentagon, like on the day

11:24 Speaker 4: of on September eleventh, That's when I guess you could say,

11:27 Speaker 4: I had my first very real couple of head scratching moments.

11:33 Speaker 4: And I can jump into those now if you'd like.

11:35 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so, I mean, so, yeah, what do you

11:37 Speaker 3: remember most about?

11:39 Speaker 4: So we had a difficult time getting back to the

11:42 Speaker 4: base we were over in Virginia. We had to get

11:43 Speaker 4: into DC and the gridlock that was occurring that day

11:47 Speaker 4: was terrible, and so, you know, I envision eventually the

11:51 Speaker 4: scene that a lot of pedestrians saw when we basically

11:54 Speaker 4: had to exit our buses once we made it to

11:56 Speaker 4: the DC and run by company through these traffic patterns

12:01 Speaker 4: and everything. So that that always kind of cracks me up.

12:03 Speaker 4: I'm reminded of like this herd of buffalo just flying

12:06 Speaker 4: through the streets of DC. But so we got back

12:09 Speaker 4: to my base and we started to get out all

12:11 Speaker 4: of our riot gear, you know, my unit, we we

12:14 Speaker 4: did a lot of preparations in the riot control department,

12:17 Speaker 4: Like the World Bank protests that happen in DC every year.

12:21 Speaker 4: We were part of those securing those, making sure nothing

12:23 Speaker 4: crazy happens so we are able to be deployed into

12:26 Speaker 4: the DC region at a moment's notice. Well, I was

12:28 Speaker 4: a private at that time. I was full of piss

12:30 Speaker 4: and vinegar. And they you know, everybody that's been in

12:33 Speaker 4: an infantry company knows if they ask for volunteers, they

12:37 Speaker 4: better get a hundred sum hot hands immediately going up

12:39 Speaker 4: and they said we are going to supplement the MP's forces.

12:44 Speaker 4: We're going to provide some people that day.

12:46 Speaker 8: So for anyone doesn't know MPs Military Police, So you're

12:51 Speaker 8: gonna you guys are going to go into aid the

12:52 Speaker 8: military police.

12:53 Speaker 4: Yeah, ok, the region and and you know, on the base.

12:56 Speaker 4: And so they said, who wants to be a part

12:57 Speaker 4: of this? And I was like, yeah, that's why I came.

13:00 Speaker 4: You know, I was twenty at the time. It's like, okay,

13:02 Speaker 4: infantry stuff. Now we're talking. So they said, okay, good deal.

13:07 Speaker 4: You guys are going to help in a variety of

13:09 Speaker 4: ways around the base. Go downstairs, check out your M sixteen,

13:14 Speaker 4: get all your gear, and report outside on the curb

13:17 Speaker 4: in front of the company. Ready to go. And can

13:20 Speaker 4: I pausey sure?

13:21 Speaker 3: Do you know the severity yet of what happens has happened,

13:26 Speaker 3: So you don't know the actual true severity. You just

13:28 Speaker 3: know that people are scrambling, like literally like like units

13:34 Speaker 3: are scrambling, but you don't know how severe it is yet.

13:38 Speaker 4: Don't know how severe. Obviously, at this point, once we

13:40 Speaker 4: were back to the company, we knew what had happened

13:42 Speaker 4: with the towers. We knew that both towers had allegedly

13:45 Speaker 4: been hit. They and again we just we didn't know

13:48 Speaker 4: any of the possibilities, you know, and there's a lot

13:51 Speaker 4: of scuttle at the time, people were talking about how

13:53 Speaker 4: they heard about more attacks coming in. You know, this

13:56 Speaker 4: is all before the tech Now.

13:57 Speaker 8: I was gonna say listed before because I remember even

14:02 Speaker 8: you know, people forget how early it was in the

14:04 Speaker 8: day where it just yet you kind of started your day.

14:08 Speaker 8: You got about a half hour into your day and Bengo,

14:11 Speaker 8: it was popping and I was in school, so they

14:13 Speaker 8: had us under our debt.

14:14 Speaker 3: Well we'll go into this, but no one knew what

14:16 Speaker 3: was going on.

14:17 Speaker 8: I only have that kind of point of view of like,

14:20 Speaker 8: and we're close. We're four hours from New York and

14:22 Speaker 8: we're four hours from DC, so you know, it's a

14:25 Speaker 8: major city in between where everything's happening, so you don't

14:29 Speaker 8: really understand if you're next, Like there's always that possibility.

14:34 Speaker 3: I would assume.

14:35 Speaker 4: Yep.

14:35 Speaker 8: I think I was too young to feel that, but

14:37 Speaker 8: I think that's what the adults are probably feeling because

14:40 Speaker 8: military jets are scrambling every four and a half minutes.

14:43 Speaker 3: They have us under our desks as kids like like

14:47 Speaker 3: like we're being nuclear like like a nuclear attack is

14:51 Speaker 3: about to happen. Yeah, no one knew.

14:53 Speaker 8: There wasn't TVs that just popped on in every classroom

14:57 Speaker 8: and you know nine to eleven is happening. No one

14:59 Speaker 8: really understood the severity. And I think that is important

15:03 Speaker 8: to capture because you're just getting ready to go protect,

15:10 Speaker 8: You're getting ready to go do your job. You don't

15:12 Speaker 8: really understand what actually happened yet. So I'm sorry, continue.

15:16 Speaker 4: Oh you're fine. So yeah, we went down to the

15:19 Speaker 4: arms room, and I'll never forget what was said to me.

15:22 Speaker 4: I was handed on m sixteen and I was handed

15:25 Speaker 4: a blank magazine with no ammunition in it, and I said,

15:28 Speaker 4: excuse me, specialist, I need ammunition, and he said, you

15:32 Speaker 4: guys have not been authorized the use of live rounds.

15:36 Speaker 4: And so I said, you know, in those moments to myself,

15:39 Speaker 4: I'll never forget. I went out of my barracks. You know,

15:42 Speaker 4: there was a formation that took place right out in

15:45 Speaker 4: the front. I can look across the river from DC

15:48 Speaker 4: and I can see where this smoke.

15:51 Speaker 3: Is billowy billing.

15:53 Speaker 4: And I'm one of the people that is supposed to

15:56 Speaker 4: be performing some type of a guard detail on this base.

16:00 Speaker 4: And I don't have live rounds. I don't have any rounds.

16:05 Speaker 4: And so this is where it gets even more interesting.

16:09 Speaker 4: I ended up going to the front the front gate.

16:12 Speaker 4: I was linked up with another female MP that day.

16:16 Speaker 4: I asked her, you know, as soon as I got there,

16:19 Speaker 4: did you, first off, do you have live rounds? And

16:21 Speaker 4: she said, yeah, I've got a pistol. I've got about

16:23 Speaker 4: I think she said like three rounds that she was authorized.

16:25 Speaker 4: I said, have you been given anything else? She said no.

16:29 Speaker 4: I said, oh that's great, and so yeah, there were

16:31 Speaker 4: people that were posted up on the two gates going

16:35 Speaker 4: into McNair. I was on one of those gates. So

16:36 Speaker 4: there was also a roaming guard that took place along

16:40 Speaker 4: the sea wall of our base and just kind of

16:42 Speaker 4: throughout the base in general. But not a single person

16:46 Speaker 4: was given live rounds. And I was able to because

16:49 Speaker 4: I try to use other people's testimony when I tell

16:51 Speaker 4: my story, because there's a lot of people out there

16:55 Speaker 4: in the nine to eleven accountability community that are trying

16:58 Speaker 4: their best to disqual everything I say. So now I say, look, okay, great,

17:03 Speaker 4: this is my story and I'm using now other people's testimony.

17:06 Speaker 4: But I was able to uncover through research a quote

17:09 Speaker 4: by a guy by the name of Benjamin Yellett. He

17:12 Speaker 4: was a sergeant and even he said, you know, when

17:15 Speaker 4: he was doing the roaming detail that day before we

17:19 Speaker 4: were ever deployed to the site, they had blank magazines.

17:23 Speaker 4: They had empty magazines.

17:25 Speaker 3: What are you going to do?

17:27 Speaker 4: Well? It reminds me of the movie The Boondock Saints.

17:28 Speaker 4: Have you ever seen that movie? What am I supposed

17:30 Speaker 4: to do? Laugh them the death? Like the funny Man.

17:33 Speaker 8: You literally just have a blunt force object. At that point,

17:37 Speaker 8: it's nothing but that.

17:38 Speaker 4: I told the MP. I said, I if it goes down,

17:42 Speaker 4: I'm gone. I'm running And I don't know what to

17:45 Speaker 4: tell you. I'm running.

17:47 Speaker 3: You can't, you can't. I'm no good to you right now.

17:50 Speaker 4: I very and this is not I'm not trying to

17:54 Speaker 4: get negative, but I very clearly remember that day when

17:58 Speaker 4: I was on the front gate for about ten minutes

18:02 Speaker 4: being furious, and I said, I'm not doing this. I'm

18:06 Speaker 4: not going to take part for the next twenty years

18:09 Speaker 4: of my life where these type of incompetent decisions are

18:12 Speaker 4: being made. And I've been saying since day one. Everybody

18:15 Speaker 4: was getting very patriotic on September eleventh. Oh, I was

18:19 Speaker 4: pissed off because I felt like I was being used

18:21 Speaker 4: as a pawn. It's like, you know, if this is

18:24 Speaker 4: a legitimate, legitimate attack on our country, every single military

18:29 Speaker 4: installation should consider themselves a target.

18:32 Speaker 3: And you're you are the target.

18:34 Speaker 4: And you're ordering me not you know, you're giving me

18:38 Speaker 4: orders to go out on this bas you know, to

18:40 Speaker 4: protect the people that are here, and I can't do

18:42 Speaker 4: that job.

18:43 Speaker 8: I think the obvious question becomes number one. If the

18:48 Speaker 8: United States government and military didn't know what was happening

18:53 Speaker 8: on nine to eleven, they would not have issued blank magazines.

18:58 Speaker 8: If this was spontaneu and we did just get attacked,

19:04 Speaker 8: you think they'd be like, literally, like take take our

19:08 Speaker 8: like take.

19:09 Speaker 3: Three full magazines. We don't know what's going on. We

19:12 Speaker 3: need to be ready for anything, anything, period.

19:18 Speaker 8: That's the answer if this is spontaneous. But if this

19:21 Speaker 8: is something that's cooked up and they know that it's

19:24 Speaker 8: not going to require live ammunition because the job's done,

19:29 Speaker 8: that's when I start issuing blank magazines.

19:32 Speaker 3: Well, when I know you're not going to need them.

19:34 Speaker 4: To your very point, here's where it gets a little crazier.

19:37 Speaker 4: So we spent aggravates me. Oh just wait, but wait,

19:41 Speaker 4: there's more. So we went on site that day around

19:45 Speaker 4: sixteen hundred hours, that's four o'clock PM in the afternoon,

19:49 Speaker 4: and prior to us going on site as a company,

19:55 Speaker 4: we were forced to sign non disclosure agreements about what

20:00 Speaker 4: we were you know, how we were going to engage

20:04 Speaker 4: if you know, while we were on site, you know

20:06 Speaker 4: that we wouldn't speak to the media. It was known

20:09 Speaker 4: that that part of the building was housing a lot

20:12 Speaker 4: of top secret documents, and so you know, naturally our

20:15 Speaker 4: mission became heavy and light labor, recovery efforts of all things.

20:20 Speaker 4: And so I personally believe and this is I haven't

20:23 Speaker 4: been able to get a copy of that NDA, but

20:25 Speaker 4: my book is going to show other people in my

20:27 Speaker 4: unit testifying that we were forced to sign these things.

20:30 Speaker 8: So I'm sorry, How is this so after everything happens,

20:37 Speaker 8: or because this had to be prior?

20:38 Speaker 4: This is so, this is prior to us going on site.

20:40 Speaker 4: I went out and did the guard detail. You know,

20:42 Speaker 4: we had received orders. I guess orders is the wrong word.

20:46 Speaker 4: We received instruction because we came down on formal orders

20:50 Speaker 4: to go on site and do what we did on

20:52 Speaker 4: the twelfth, and I've been able to uncover that information

20:54 Speaker 4: as well through research. But we on the eleventh, and

20:58 Speaker 4: again I use my first sergeant's words. I use another

21:01 Speaker 4: book where my company commander spoke to show that we

21:04 Speaker 4: were on site, you know, on September eleventh in the afternoon,

21:08 Speaker 4: but prior to us going on site, you know, they

21:10 Speaker 4: gave us these pieces of paper and I very vaguely

21:14 Speaker 4: remember it. It was just one sheet and it only

21:17 Speaker 4: had like a couple paragraphs, and it just said that

21:19 Speaker 4: we're not going to talk to the media, that we're

21:21 Speaker 4: not going to take pictures, we're not going to speak

21:24 Speaker 4: about any of the things that we saw. And and

21:28 Speaker 4: why I find that interesting is that there are people

21:33 Speaker 4: in my unit that remember signing that. There are people

21:35 Speaker 4: in my unit that don't remember signing it. But I

21:38 Speaker 4: haven't been able to get a copy of that. And again,

21:40 Speaker 4: to your point, you know, we're here to respond to

21:42 Speaker 4: a tragedy. We're not. You know, why are we wasting

21:46 Speaker 4: our time with legal documents and NDAs and people have

21:50 Speaker 4: tried to play Devil's advocate with me.

21:52 Speaker 3: You know, and cover your basis. It's like, no, get

21:54 Speaker 3: the fucking job done.

21:55 Speaker 4: Get there, there's people that are in need. Let's go.

21:58 Speaker 4: We just got attacked. Let's go. So yeah, that was

22:02 Speaker 4: a head scratcher. But you know, so no ammunition forced

22:06 Speaker 4: to sign.

22:06 Speaker 8: NDA's why So when you arrive at the Pentagon A,

22:13 Speaker 8: you know, can you can you tell me what you saw?

22:17 Speaker 3: Sure?

22:17 Speaker 4: So the very first thing that I remember when we

22:21 Speaker 4: got there is the lack of response. We got there,

22:26 Speaker 4: We jumped out of the deuce in a hass. You know,

22:28 Speaker 4: everybody was looking at this hole and this portion of

22:33 Speaker 4: the building that collapsed. And I use a testimony from

22:37 Speaker 4: a guy by the name of specialist Matt Colton. He

22:39 Speaker 4: was also in my unit. And this can all be

22:42 Speaker 4: found in the in a variety of ways. It's going

22:44 Speaker 4: to be included in my book. But in his testimony

22:47 Speaker 4: he basically said that everybody expected to see more. We

22:53 Speaker 4: we got there in the earlier part, in mid afternoon

22:56 Speaker 4: whatever you want to call it, you know, around sixteen

22:58 Speaker 4: hundred hours, and we that point in time saw no

23:02 Speaker 4: debris whatsoever that was on the field. Right outside in

23:06 Speaker 4: the lawn, we saw, you know, nothing that looked like

23:09 Speaker 4: a plane had struck the building. You know, the lawn

23:12 Speaker 4: wasn't damaged in any way, shape or form. And if

23:15 Speaker 4: you if you look at any commercial aircraft, or anytime

23:19 Speaker 4: there's an aircraft, you can just see this pile that

23:22 Speaker 4: just goes, you know, for a long period of time.

23:25 Speaker 4: You can see scraping on the ground. You can see

23:26 Speaker 4: all different types of aeronautical components.

23:29 Speaker 8: We can we can even use another example, the plane

23:32 Speaker 8: that went down in Pennsylvania. Look what that looked like.

23:37 Speaker 8: But then there's and so okay, so you.

23:40 Speaker 4: Don't see, don't see anything. And and that's wild. Yeah

23:45 Speaker 4: it was wild, and and and again there's there's no

23:47 Speaker 4: picture that does the size of the whole any justice.

23:52 Speaker 4: There really isn't. It was extremely small. Even that that

23:56 Speaker 4: portion of the collapse building was so small, it just

24:00 Speaker 4: it didn't make any sense. And of course, you know,

24:02 Speaker 4: I'm reminded of the nineteen eighty four quote, you know,

24:05 Speaker 4: big brothers most necessary command is to ignore the evidence

24:09 Speaker 4: of your eyes and your ears. So all of us

24:11 Speaker 4: were kind of looking at that point in time. You know,

24:13 Speaker 4: people have been watching the TV all day. You know

24:15 Speaker 4: that people that weren't on the detail, they stayed inside

24:18 Speaker 4: of the barracks. Basically everybody in the company was on lockdown.

24:21 Speaker 4: So we'd watched these towers fall repeatedly, repeatedly, repeatedly, and

24:27 Speaker 4: so it's easy, I guess you could say to at

24:31 Speaker 4: that point in time, if you don't know just how

24:33 Speaker 4: corrupt the federal institution is. Now, we can look at

24:37 Speaker 4: twenty five years and beyond and point to a lot

24:39 Speaker 4: of things, But we didn't have that ability back then,

24:42 Speaker 4: and so it would be I guess you could say,

24:44 Speaker 4: easy to utilize a unit like my own and a

24:48 Speaker 4: first response effort where they think that they're actually legitimately

24:51 Speaker 4: responding to an aeronautical crash. The majority of the people

24:57 Speaker 4: that I talk to now, because I've been reconnecting with

24:59 Speaker 4: a lot of peop people on the subject, they fall

25:01 Speaker 4: into three categories. The vast majority of people that were

25:05 Speaker 4: in my unit that responded the way I did, they

25:08 Speaker 4: don't remember seeing really anything that looked like an aeronautical part.

25:13 Speaker 4: They don't remember seeing personal effects that look like luggage.

25:16 Speaker 4: They don't remember seeing people that were in, you know,

25:20 Speaker 4: side the building that looked like they had been deceased

25:22 Speaker 4: as a result of an airline accident. Everybody that we

25:25 Speaker 4: encountered looked like they were in the building and that's

25:28 Speaker 4: the position that I take. I've sworn up and down

25:31 Speaker 4: on it. You know, I've been saying these things since

25:34 Speaker 4: very early on after.

25:35 Speaker 8: So honestly, like it's just not gruesome, like you think,

25:39 Speaker 8: what you're what what I would expect to arrive on

25:44 Speaker 8: scene is a building that has a giant hole with

25:49 Speaker 8: a half a plane of it sticking out, burning people screaming, right,

25:55 Speaker 8: jet fuel like bursting every once in a while.

25:59 Speaker 3: I don't even know, Like I'm thinking like like a

26:02 Speaker 3: hot like a very chaotic mess.

26:08 Speaker 8: Because even no matter how much, even if you even

26:11 Speaker 8: if you've calmed the situation down, there's still gonna be

26:16 Speaker 8: be people crying. There's gonna be people watching with terror

26:20 Speaker 8: with you know, there's gonna be a leg over here,

26:24 Speaker 8: like unless they just swept everything super quick before you

26:27 Speaker 8: got there, well.

26:28 Speaker 4: Before I got there. Let's bring up a very known witness,

26:31 Speaker 4: April Gallop. Yes, no, she was one of the people

26:34 Speaker 4: that was specifically inside of that portion of the building

26:37 Speaker 4: where Flight seventy seven allegedly hit, and she got back

26:41 Speaker 4: from Eternity Leave that day she pushed a button on

26:43 Speaker 4: her computer and she thought that her computer had actually

26:47 Speaker 4: activated some type of a bomb because it exploded immediately

26:50 Speaker 4: after that, suddenly she was you know, concussed, she was

26:54 Speaker 4: knocked down, She was there with her child. She had

26:56 Speaker 4: no idea where her child was. If you can imagine,

26:58 Speaker 4: you know, having to go through this. But even she,

27:02 Speaker 4: and she's been very outspoken about this for a long time,

27:06 Speaker 4: she mentioned the same things that I just said to you.

27:08 Speaker 4: No aeronautical components, no, you know, nothing that looked like

27:11 Speaker 4: your plane had hit the building. And I also did

27:14 Speaker 4: want to say too, I've kind of mentioned the three

27:16 Speaker 4: different types people, so they most people fall into the

27:20 Speaker 4: category with me. The second biggest group or people that

27:22 Speaker 4: have compartmentalized it, they've just for whatever reason they've responded.

27:27 Speaker 4: It's kind of a trauma response. They've forgotten a lot

27:30 Speaker 4: about what they went through. And then there's the third group,

27:32 Speaker 4: which is a really small group of people. There's two

27:36 Speaker 4: people specifically that are part of this group. They said

27:38 Speaker 4: that they thought they saw aeronautical components, and I say,

27:41 Speaker 4: first off, do you have access with these? No, because

27:44 Speaker 4: I do. I actually down the line, I worked for

27:46 Speaker 4: a company called Pratt and Whitney that's very well known.

27:50 Speaker 4: Oh wow, they do aeronautical engineer. You know, yes, defensive

27:53 Speaker 4: and commercial capabilities. So I didn't have that experience at

27:58 Speaker 4: the time, but I certainly overlay that experience down the road.

28:03 Speaker 4: But you know, so nobody has that type of knowledge.

28:06 Speaker 4: And I asked them, you know, what did you think

28:08 Speaker 4: you saw? When somebody said, well, I saw a chair.

28:10 Speaker 4: It's like, did you see any other chairs? There's a

28:12 Speaker 4: lot of chairs on an airplane.

28:13 Speaker 3: There's three hundred of them.

28:15 Speaker 4: A lot of chairs on an airplane. What about And

28:17 Speaker 4: this other person said, well, I thought that I saw

28:19 Speaker 4: a door. And I said, great, you know where is it?

28:23 Speaker 4: You know, because if you really get into studying this anomaly,

28:28 Speaker 4: you can look to so many different areas where there

28:31 Speaker 4: isn't a chain of custody with these alleged parts. You

28:34 Speaker 4: can't find these parts anymore, good luck finding them. And

28:38 Speaker 4: there's these things on parts that are called serial numbers. Yes,

28:41 Speaker 4: and they're designed to withstand an incident. And I used

28:45 Speaker 4: to work for Pratt and Whitney, and I used to

28:46 Speaker 4: tell my coworkers I was a leader there. I said, listen,

28:50 Speaker 4: do your job, because if God forbids something happens, the

28:54 Speaker 4: FAA and a number of other institutions are going to investigate.

28:57 Speaker 3: Them, come down on you.

28:58 Speaker 4: It's going to come back to you the very people

29:00 Speaker 4: that were moving the parts, specifically the parts that were

29:04 Speaker 4: you know, used in fabrication of these engines. So I

29:07 Speaker 4: kind of use that as a motivating vector.

29:08 Speaker 3: And it's like no black box was ever produced.

29:11 Speaker 4: It was, but nothing ever came from it. And furthermore,

29:14 Speaker 4: you know, no information came from it. But it was

29:18 Speaker 4: the way that it was found. It wasn't you can't

29:21 Speaker 4: find it anymore.

29:22 Speaker 3: It was I was gonna say, because I don't even recall.

29:24 Speaker 4: It was allegedly found by two firefighters and it's not

29:28 Speaker 4: even technically it wasn't even a black box. But yeah,

29:32 Speaker 4: they they did away with it. And and you know

29:35 Speaker 4: where is that piece of evidence right now?

29:37 Speaker 8: Should be in some you know memorials that people can

29:40 Speaker 8: go access, right.

29:41 Speaker 4: Yeah, thousand percent. And and you know, I I there's

29:44 Speaker 4: a lot of different ways to break down the anomalies

29:47 Speaker 4: with chain of custody. I can prove in my work

29:49 Speaker 4: that the FBI did not have chain of custody of

29:52 Speaker 4: those parts which were supposed to be handled in a

29:54 Speaker 4: specialized manner because they were encountering, you know, human remains,

29:59 Speaker 4: they were encounter asbestos, you know, water that had been dirtied,

30:04 Speaker 4: and so you can't find any of these things who.

30:06 Speaker 3: Had ultimate authority on scene.

30:09 Speaker 4: There were two entities James Schwartz, he was the incident

30:12 Speaker 4: commander of Arlington Fire, and then there was Chris Combs,

30:16 Speaker 4: he was the head of the FBI, and so they

30:18 Speaker 4: kind of worked in tandem. But this is another area

30:21 Speaker 4: where my work also gets really into the weeds. There

30:24 Speaker 4: were so many different institutions that were local, there were state,

30:28 Speaker 4: there were federal. There there's so many places that got

30:31 Speaker 4: involved with the response that it's it's been really hard

30:35 Speaker 4: to pinpoint every single thing down. And then when I

30:39 Speaker 4: go even deeper and I do Foier requests, and I

30:41 Speaker 4: asked these institutions to provide a bare minimum of an

30:45 Speaker 4: after action report, a post incident report, you know, a

30:48 Speaker 4: lessons learned report. Most of them, and I'm saying most,

30:52 Speaker 4: I'm talking about ninety percent come back with they have

30:55 Speaker 4: no documents responsive to the request, which makes it even

30:58 Speaker 4: worse because the two documents we do have, first and

31:02 Speaker 4: foremost is Arlington Fire. They did an after action report

31:05 Speaker 4: using a company called Titan Systems Corporation. This you know

31:10 Speaker 4: company is now now known to be notoriously corrupted. You

31:13 Speaker 4: can even throw that into AI and ask them to

31:15 Speaker 4: explain the corruption with that company. But can you say

31:18 Speaker 4: that the name Titan Systems Corporation. They they did the

31:21 Speaker 4: after action report for Arlington Fire, and I even went

31:24 Speaker 4: so far. In the first couple of pages of Arlington's

31:27 Speaker 4: AAR it says, you know, this document was produced by

31:33 Speaker 4: a grant that came from the Department of Justice Office

31:36 Speaker 4: of Justice Programs, and I specifically went to that institution.

31:39 Speaker 4: I'm like, give me all the information you can possibly

31:41 Speaker 4: give on the grant. And I even spoke to the

31:44 Speaker 4: FOUA officer. He's like, yeah, you stumped us. There's nothing.

31:47 Speaker 4: So that's one document that's heavily problematic. The other one

31:51 Speaker 4: is the actual nine to eleven Commission Mission report. David

31:54 Speaker 4: Ray Griffin wrote a book on that and and my

31:57 Speaker 4: unit in its entirety was whitewash from that that entire report.

32:01 Speaker 4: So we had between you know, anywhere from six hundred

32:04 Speaker 4: to seven hundred people on site. According to Major General

32:07 Speaker 4: James Jackson, he was the commander of the Military District

32:10 Speaker 4: of Washington. If you weren't doing Arlington detail in that

32:15 Speaker 4: time you were at the Pentagon, My unit, the Old Guard,

32:18 Speaker 4: and our entire response efforts were basically just wiped. And

32:23 Speaker 4: even in Arlington's aar you can't really look and see

32:26 Speaker 4: how were we deployed. There's several mentions that talk about

32:30 Speaker 4: how the Arlington firefighters and the agencies drew great motivation,

32:34 Speaker 4: you know, watching.

32:35 Speaker 3: Us and party should have been here ofs well.

32:38 Speaker 4: That's a day. It's like we're there to do a job.

32:40 Speaker 4: We weren't even believe it or not doing anything. The

32:42 Speaker 4: first couple of days we were kind of sitting back

32:44 Speaker 4: and like nothing was happening. So that was you know,

32:46 Speaker 4: not trying to jump around. But you know, that was

32:49 Speaker 4: another issue that I saw. But then when we actually

32:52 Speaker 4: started to do things and we were going in, I

32:54 Speaker 4: mean we we worked side by side with all the

32:56 Speaker 4: federal agencies taking everything out of that building. This is documented.

33:01 Speaker 4: Everything in that building came out, and it came out

33:04 Speaker 4: due to the efforts that we were made. We were

33:06 Speaker 4: hauling bodies, we were even I've been able to find

33:08 Speaker 4: research showing that we were partaking in conversations. Half there

33:11 Speaker 4: were bodies, but they were they were bodies. And and

33:14 Speaker 4: again I'm speaking from my experience, but you know, I'll get.

33:18 Speaker 3: To these are all people that worked inside.

33:20 Speaker 4: The inside the office, one hundred percent. And if you

33:22 Speaker 4: if you look at documents that show.

33:24 Speaker 3: Where that's so fucking crazy. Man.

33:26 Speaker 4: The vast majority of the bodies that were recovered allegedly

33:30 Speaker 4: happened in A and E drive right outside of the

33:33 Speaker 4: Defense Intelligence Agencies portion of the building. And I've got

33:37 Speaker 4: pictures that were taken of that very spot, and you know,

33:41 Speaker 4: stuff is still smoking and smoldering. The water from the

33:45 Speaker 4: fire relief efforts is still you know, ankle deep, you know,

33:49 Speaker 4: knee deep all over the place. And so I say,

33:51 Speaker 4: you know, these people said that tons of people's DNA

33:54 Speaker 4: was retrieved from this pile of nothing, and it's like, well,

33:57 Speaker 4: how do you do that? Things submerged in water, it's

33:59 Speaker 4: still smoldering. Like I can physically look here and see

34:03 Speaker 4: all this stuff.

34:04 Speaker 8: It's mixed together with dust and sut from the building

34:07 Speaker 8: and concrete. It's like, you're not pulling individual DNA tracks

34:12 Speaker 8: off of that any of that stuff.

34:14 Speaker 3: I don't. It just doesn't make sense. And plus you

34:17 Speaker 3: can't even show me the report where it does make sense.

34:19 Speaker 4: Yeah, well absolutely, and where it gets even crazier. I

34:22 Speaker 4: was able to find. This was one of the little

34:24 Speaker 4: gifts I was going to bring to Showton just to

34:26 Speaker 4: read to you the testimony Arlington Library. The Arlington Library

34:30 Speaker 4: about five years after the incident did a historical recollection

34:34 Speaker 4: kind of collection and they brought a number of people

34:37 Speaker 4: that were involved with that day to come and speak

34:39 Speaker 4: on it. And there was one specific firefighter by the

34:41 Speaker 4: name of Charles Gibbs. And this guy was head of

34:45 Speaker 4: the training wing of Arlington Fire and Arlington's one of

34:49 Speaker 4: the elite units in the country because of their responsibilities,

34:51 Speaker 4: the fact that they.

34:52 Speaker 3: Such a large area, such a large.

34:54 Speaker 4: Area right outside of the National Capital region, and so

34:58 Speaker 4: there's there's you know a lot of ways to show

35:00 Speaker 4: how this unit was elite. And in this testimony, Charles

35:04 Speaker 4: Gibbs said, point blank, He's like, we were finding people

35:07 Speaker 4: like they were asleep. Yeah, I mean, like if you

35:11 Speaker 4: can imagine, And I'm going to kind of tell you

35:13 Speaker 4: a little bit about the scene that I found that

35:15 Speaker 4: really stuck out the most. But there was a conference room,

35:19 Speaker 4: a boardroom where there was six people and they were

35:22 Speaker 4: sitting around this huge table. It was off the alleged

35:26 Speaker 4: flight path. It was in the Naval Operations Center, and

35:30 Speaker 4: so if the plane came in just like this, it

35:32 Speaker 4: was kind of over here, you know nothing, And when

35:36 Speaker 4: you know, a few days into the operation, we started

35:39 Speaker 4: to go into the building and assist federal agents. I'll

35:41 Speaker 4: never forget that scene. I walked in and everybody was

35:45 Speaker 4: still sitting around this conference room. And what made it

35:48 Speaker 4: even more fascinating. You would think that if a if

35:51 Speaker 4: a commercial airliner hit the building, there would be an

35:54 Speaker 4: explosion which would impact that conference room because it was

35:57 Speaker 4: so close proximity wise. But then blast out word yeah,

36:01 Speaker 4: push everybody, No, it didn't do that. Some of these

36:04 Speaker 4: individuals inside of this room, and I can point to

36:06 Speaker 4: where this room was on a map, half of their

36:09 Speaker 4: face would be burned, melted, in fact, literally melted. The

36:13 Speaker 4: other half of their face was totally fine. And you

36:16 Speaker 4: know what I'm telling you right now is also the

36:19 Speaker 4: opinion of my former company commander. There was a book

36:22 Speaker 4: called Then Came the Fire, and his name is William Besterman.

36:25 Speaker 4: He talked about this, how the bodies were half burned,

36:29 Speaker 4: and like you know, some of the things that were

36:30 Speaker 4: inside of the room. He talked about a computer, how

36:35 Speaker 4: it looked like a melted piece of cheese on a cheeseburger. Yeah,

36:40 Speaker 4: And so some of the things had been burned, some weren't.

36:42 Speaker 4: There were, you know, elements of that boardroom that you

36:45 Speaker 4: could tell something obviously very high temperature came through there.

36:49 Speaker 4: But then there was also parts that looked like it

36:51 Speaker 4: wasn't touched. But that scene stuck out to me the most.

36:55 Speaker 4: And you know, one of the guys looked like my dad,

36:58 Speaker 4: which really made it kind of impion. Yeah, and that's

37:02 Speaker 4: what really drove my work. But again, going back.

37:04 Speaker 3: To Jesus, it must have been so hard to look at.

37:06 Speaker 4: Yeah, Charles, Charles Gibbs' testimony, you can still find this.

37:10 Speaker 4: It's he just said that a lot of people were

37:12 Speaker 4: found looking like they were just asleep. And furthermore, he

37:15 Speaker 4: talked about how explosives experts were DD explosives experts were

37:19 Speaker 4: running around the scene basically telling the firefighters that that's

37:23 Speaker 4: how it happens when an emergency or an emergency, but

37:26 Speaker 4: when an aircraft hits the.

37:27 Speaker 3: Building, it's everyone falls asleep.

37:29 Speaker 4: It sucks the auction out of the room in such

37:32 Speaker 4: a way. Yeah. Yeah, Well, which is also funny because

37:35 Speaker 4: you bring up Shanksville, and I once saw an interview

37:38 Speaker 4: with one of the FBI agents that responded there, and

37:40 Speaker 4: he talked about how he's like, where is everything? And

37:43 Speaker 4: that's when lo and behold. One of these other people

37:46 Speaker 4: within the FBI kind of jumped in and said, well,

37:49 Speaker 4: that's what happens when you know, aircraft like this hit

37:52 Speaker 4: the ground at such a speed, and this that and

37:55 Speaker 4: the other. Yeah, so you know there. I don't try

37:58 Speaker 4: to throw every single agent under the bus.

38:01 Speaker 8: Right, nothing, not everything's a conspiracy. Not everyone's not everyone's

38:05 Speaker 8: like part of like the cabal. However, something's odds happening

38:10 Speaker 8: no matter where I look. I talked to the one

38:13 Speaker 8: of the Jersey girls got the commissioned the nine to

38:16 Speaker 8: eleven commission report. Her husband died on one hundred and

38:18 Speaker 8: fifth floor. There was an insurance policy taken out. I

38:21 Speaker 8: know you don't like to talk too much about the

38:23 Speaker 8: towers you weren't there, but can we agree that it

38:26 Speaker 8: doesn't the official narrative does not line up with what

38:31 Speaker 8: the outcome became.

38:32 Speaker 4: Yeah, and tell me an event in history where localized

38:36 Speaker 4: fires brought down, you know, not just two buildings, but

38:39 Speaker 4: a lot of other buildings fell that day. Look at

38:41 Speaker 4: buildings seven. Yeah, you know that that fell in the afternoon,

38:44 Speaker 4: and yeah, thankfully nobody died, but that just all of

38:46 Speaker 4: a sudden fell, and the excuse that they gave was that, oh,

38:49 Speaker 4: it was from the debris and everything else. And there

38:51 Speaker 4: was other buildings that fell that that day as well. Yeah,

38:55 Speaker 4: you know, and so yeah, there's there's a lot of

38:57 Speaker 4: inconsistencies on that day, especially if you look at how

39:01 Speaker 4: he responded. We talked a little bit about how the

39:03 Speaker 4: air response was ineffective.

39:05 Speaker 3: Right right, and that was off cameras. I don't want

39:07 Speaker 3: to get to that.

39:09 Speaker 8: Even in Boston, I lived next to Hanscom Air Force Base,

39:13 Speaker 8: and again I told you, we clocked, like my teacher was,

39:18 Speaker 8: we were so locked down for the hour hour two

39:21 Speaker 8: hours because I believe what time does the.

39:24 Speaker 3: First plane hit?

39:25 Speaker 4: It's like nine seventeen, right fire timeline. Yeah, I couldn't

39:29 Speaker 4: tell you the time, so it's like nine.

39:31 Speaker 3: It's it's like, yeah, the.

39:32 Speaker 4: DC timeline and then the New York timeline in Shanksville yeats.

39:35 Speaker 3: Yeah, so the first I find just find out what

39:38 Speaker 3: when the first plane hits the North Tower.

39:40 Speaker 8: I believe it was like nine something. So again, your

39:43 Speaker 8: day is just starting. I want people to kind of

39:46 Speaker 8: bring themselves back to or bring themselves.

39:48 Speaker 3: Back to any kind of work day.

39:49 Speaker 8: Right, you get up, you clock your nine to five,

39:53 Speaker 8: it's like they had thirty minutes. And imagine thirty minutes

39:56 Speaker 8: into your shift, the plane hits the fucking North Tower.

40:02 Speaker 3: The first god hit at nine.

40:09 Speaker 8: Wasn't even it wasn't even close to ten. So your

40:11 Speaker 8: day even gets your day was it didn't even. I

40:15 Speaker 8: would have if it was my workplace, like what the

40:19 Speaker 8: job I do right now, I would have been there

40:22 Speaker 8: for thirteen minutes, seventeen minutes before the first plane takes impact.

40:27 Speaker 8: So imagine thirteen minutes into your day, a fucking plane

40:32 Speaker 8: comes through the building, and then twenty two minutes later

40:37 Speaker 8: you find out this can't be random because second tower

40:42 Speaker 8: just gets hit with a second plane, and then a

40:45 Speaker 8: third plane hits the Pentagon, a fourth plane goes down

40:48 Speaker 8: in Pennsylvania, and this all happens within two three hours

40:51 Speaker 8: of each other. So if we're believe, if we're to

40:57 Speaker 8: be believed that this was a spawn taneous attack and

41:02 Speaker 8: there was simply failed intelligence, the CIA, the NSA, they

41:08 Speaker 8: failed to act on intelligence, and the FBI Tech and

41:12 Speaker 8: the FBI. If they weren't sharing there were being dickheads

41:16 Speaker 8: to each other. However, they had I don't know how

41:19 Speaker 8: many the hijackers they were they were following already.

41:24 Speaker 4: Yeah, well they talk about that in the Canistri files,

41:26 Speaker 4: I believe.

41:27 Speaker 3: Yeah.

41:27 Speaker 4: And again that's a geopolitical element of all this that

41:30 Speaker 4: that makes you kind of scratch your head a little bit.

41:32 Speaker 4: You know, why were these Israeli intelligence folks following, you know,

41:37 Speaker 4: these hijackers and monitoring them.

41:39 Speaker 3: It's kind of like and who let them start getting

41:42 Speaker 3: plane license to fly?

41:43 Speaker 4: Well? Yeah, and specifically when you hone in on the

41:47 Speaker 4: Pentagon element. You know, the individual Hani Hanjour that allegedly

41:52 Speaker 4: flew Flight seventy seven. If you break him down, no,

41:55 Speaker 4: you're good. That's where it really falls apart. He couldn't

41:58 Speaker 4: really even pilot assessaent Sessna. Yeah, and so you want

42:01 Speaker 4: to tell me that he could pilot a Boeing seven

42:02 Speaker 4: fifty seven series aircraft, which, by the way, the aircraft

42:08 Speaker 4: in question isn't even designed to fly at the speeds

42:12 Speaker 4: and at the altitude that it allegedly flew at hitting

42:15 Speaker 4: the Pentagon. That is a physical impossibility when it allegedly

42:19 Speaker 4: hits the building going over five hundred miles per hour.

42:21 Speaker 4: It can't fly at that speed. But that's a whole

42:24 Speaker 4: other part of the of the question.

42:27 Speaker 3: But you're also flying at So what he would have

42:30 Speaker 3: had to do? What? And you see where I'm going

42:33 Speaker 3: with this right? Oh?

42:33 Speaker 4: Yeah, the quarkscrew maneuver the.

42:35 Speaker 8: What he would have had to be enable to pull

42:38 Speaker 8: off flying that plane into the Pentagon where it hits

42:44 Speaker 8: and the little clip that they show us, it skims

42:48 Speaker 8: right across the ground, almost running parallel with the ground.

42:53 Speaker 8: That guy would have had to have been flying for

42:55 Speaker 8: fifty some odd years, yeah, to have been able to

42:58 Speaker 8: pull off.

42:59 Speaker 3: Because he goes cork, screws down, perfectly, lines himself up

43:04 Speaker 3: with that portion of the Pentagon, and flies consistently, doesn't

43:09 Speaker 3: hit anything else right, and just flies perfectly into the Pentagon,

43:13 Speaker 3: is what they say.

43:14 Speaker 4: Well, they say that he hit a couple of telephone poles,

43:18 Speaker 4: like pulls a generator and then.

43:21 Speaker 3: God, he must have been the worst best pilot ever.

43:23 Speaker 4: Well, there's so many ways that you can kind of

43:26 Speaker 4: break this down, so you can get the honey hanjour,

43:30 Speaker 4: You can get into his past and even his brother.

43:33 Speaker 4: There's a mainstream media article out there that exists and

43:36 Speaker 4: this will be my book where his brother said, there's

43:38 Speaker 4: no way that my brother did this, and you know,

43:41 Speaker 4: I find it hard to believe. I guess you could say, so,

43:44 Speaker 4: I say, are we going to trust, you know, trust

43:47 Speaker 4: the intelligence apparatuses that failed us and continue to fail us,

43:50 Speaker 4: or we're gonna trust this man's brother. You know, we

43:53 Speaker 4: can look at trade craft. Well maybe that's tradecraft at play.

43:56 Speaker 4: He's saying this because he's trying to dodge. It's like, well, no,

43:58 Speaker 4: let's go even deeper with honey. You can go to

44:01 Speaker 4: the Buoi flight school in Maryland where people saw this

44:04 Speaker 4: man's capabilities and.

44:07 Speaker 3: They flew with the guy.

44:08 Speaker 4: They've refused to do it.

44:10 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh in some case, Yeah.

44:12 Speaker 4: His attitude was so bad that they refused. So he

44:15 Speaker 4: was trying to get ASSESSMA allegedly before that event in

44:18 Speaker 4: the DC region, and they wanted to take him up

44:21 Speaker 4: to kind of test his skills and he was very,

44:23 Speaker 4: you know, not proficient. His English capabilities weren't great enough

44:27 Speaker 4: to get a license through the FAA. So how did

44:30 Speaker 4: that happen?

44:31 Speaker 8: Can you explain why you would need I just because

44:34 Speaker 8: I don't want anyone to think that sounds a certain way.

44:37 Speaker 8: Why do you need to be able to speak English

44:40 Speaker 8: if you're flying in the United States?

44:41 Speaker 4: That's a great question.

44:42 Speaker 8: I think it's to I do you need to be

44:45 Speaker 8: able to communicate with flight control? Yeah, like clear and

44:51 Speaker 8: effective communication. You can't not speak English and be flying

44:56 Speaker 8: into land a plane, God forbid, something goes wrong and

44:58 Speaker 8: someone has to walk you through, literally talk you through

45:01 Speaker 8: flying because so you need to be able to It's

45:05 Speaker 8: funny because that's like the one area where we allow racism,

45:10 Speaker 8: like not maybe not racism, maybe that's not the right word,

45:13 Speaker 8: but you see what I'm saying, Like you have to

45:15 Speaker 8: be proficient in English to fly a plane like and

45:18 Speaker 8: because you need to be able to communicate with flight

45:20 Speaker 8: control and they need to be able to communicate with you.

45:23 Speaker 8: And it makes perfect sense when you start breaking it down.

45:27 Speaker 3: And this guy did not speak very good English, very

45:31 Speaker 3: very good English.

45:32 Speaker 4: Well, and not only that, it gets even worse. So

45:34 Speaker 4: we can't even prove that he was at Doulas Airport

45:38 Speaker 4: the day in question. And so you know this is

45:41 Speaker 4: where it gets even harrier. There are over there were

45:44 Speaker 4: known to be over three hundred cameras in that that

45:48 Speaker 4: day and Doulas Airport that day. The one and only

45:51 Speaker 4: piece of footage that we got was a video of

45:55 Speaker 4: him traveling through airport security. But we can't even verify

45:59 Speaker 4: it was that day because there's no time stamps. There's

46:02 Speaker 4: problems with the speed of that. And furthermore, you know

46:06 Speaker 4: what I mean, the speed, the speed of the actual footage.

46:10 Speaker 4: You know, the members of the nine to eleven accountability community,

46:13 Speaker 4: they kind of agree that there's a certain level of

46:17 Speaker 4: problems that exist there. Just like I said, there was

46:20 Speaker 4: three hundred cameras, we only got one. There's no time stamps,

46:24 Speaker 4: there's speed issues. It came to us, It didn't even

46:27 Speaker 4: come to us by way of the federal government. It

46:28 Speaker 4: came through us through a different group that was trying

46:30 Speaker 4: to lobby on behalf of the victim's family. So it's like,

46:33 Speaker 4: you know, it's just it's very questionable. It's puzzling. It

46:37 Speaker 4: all came years down the road, and there was allegedly

46:40 Speaker 4: five hijackers on this plane. You know, why do we

46:44 Speaker 4: only get three of them walking.

46:46 Speaker 3: Through this terminal security?

46:49 Speaker 4: And here's where it gets even fishier. The woman that

46:52 Speaker 4: was checking in all the passengers on that plane. A

46:57 Speaker 4: woman by the name of Brenda Brown said on you know,

47:00 Speaker 4: she very clearly remembered after after the incident, on what

47:03 Speaker 4: she called a light travel day, not seeing any muslim

47:07 Speaker 4: men in that line that day.

47:10 Speaker 3: Holy shit.

47:12 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a that's a fact.

47:13 Speaker 8: Think about this, that flight takes off, that's the last

47:18 Speaker 8: flight she works that day. That is because they they

47:22 Speaker 8: shut that ship down, the airspace gets locked down. I

47:27 Speaker 8: would say by by you said the second plane hit when,

47:34 Speaker 8: so I would say by ten ten am, that airspace

47:37 Speaker 8: is locked down. Every plane is is ordered to ground

47:41 Speaker 8: and to be on the ground, and then the remaining

47:46 Speaker 8: So this is how they suss out at the time.

47:49 Speaker 8: This is how they suss out who's hijacked and who's not.

47:52 Speaker 8: Is everyone's ordered to ground themselves, and then anyone who

47:56 Speaker 8: didn't or is not communicating with the center command centers

48:01 Speaker 8: across the United States. You have to assume that those

48:04 Speaker 8: planes are hijacked at that time if they're still in

48:06 Speaker 8: the air. And that's how you get Shanksville, right, because

48:09 Speaker 8: they tried radio and into them, and I mean that's

48:13 Speaker 8: a little sketchy too. They've made this heroic story out

48:16 Speaker 8: of that, that plane, and you never you don't want

48:19 Speaker 8: to challenge.

48:20 Speaker 3: That because you honestly, that's how.

48:22 Speaker 8: I think, that's how I want to think that we

48:24 Speaker 8: would handle it, that Americans would handle something like that happening, say.

48:32 Speaker 3: Another run down North Tower.

48:42 Speaker 4: Tower.

48:50 Speaker 3: So it all happens within an hour, a little over

48:55 Speaker 3: an hour, this is so it's a little over an

48:59 Speaker 3: hour time time frame. So that's that last that's that's

49:03 Speaker 3: the last flight she works that day. So that's gonna

49:06 Speaker 3: stick out like a sore thumb, and she's gonna know

49:08 Speaker 3: exactly who was on.

49:09 Speaker 4: That plane with a very obvious different group of people.

49:16 Speaker 4: And she said, yeah, on a light travel day, I

49:17 Speaker 4: don't remember that.

49:19 Speaker 3: And that's that's exactly right.

49:20 Speaker 8: That's so that you gotta it seems that everywhere I look,

49:24 Speaker 8: since I've grown the balls quite and someone comes from

49:29 Speaker 8: the community that I do, it's quite weird that I

49:31 Speaker 8: didn't want to touch this for a long time, didn't

49:34 Speaker 8: just didn't want to talk about it because it's felt dirty,

49:38 Speaker 8: because real people lost their lives, Real Americans lost their lives.

49:44 Speaker 3: It's sucks some souls were taken.

49:50 Speaker 4: From Boston and the East Coast. You have a different

49:53 Speaker 4: kind of I think feel for that day.

49:55 Speaker 8: Yeah, we hate New York like sport wise, right, it's

49:57 Speaker 8: like it's kind of weird. But you spoke about the

50:01 Speaker 8: camaraderie that came after nine to eleven. People were just

50:06 Speaker 8: a little kinder.

50:08 Speaker 9: You know.

50:08 Speaker 8: I was talking to someone about this, just just this

50:11 Speaker 8: topic at my job, you know, in preparation for these

50:15 Speaker 8: couple interviews that I was doing, just getting back in

50:18 Speaker 8: the mindset of like what I felt like that day

50:20 Speaker 8: and what they felt like that day. And they do

50:24 Speaker 8: remember like the same thing as I do. It is

50:25 Speaker 8: like everyone just surrendered their freedom.

50:30 Speaker 3: Were not and they didn't even have to ask. We

50:34 Speaker 3: were just like kill them.

50:36 Speaker 4: All's who?

50:39 Speaker 8: And and and the first person to utter that this

50:41 Speaker 8: is potentially connected to Osama bin Laden and terror terrorism

50:50 Speaker 8: in general is a Fox News anchor who says it that, oh,

50:57 Speaker 8: this seems like it would be something from you know,

51:00 Speaker 8: like Osama bin Laden and that Fox News. Then it

51:04 Speaker 8: just gets repeated, repeated, repeated, and you just.

51:09 Speaker 3: Watch the towers fall fall, fall over and.

51:12 Speaker 8: Again, like you said, and it was just this narrative

51:14 Speaker 8: began to be built that it was Osama bin Laden,

51:18 Speaker 8: it was terrorism, and that we had been attacked, attacked

51:22 Speaker 8: by the attacked for our freedom, and people were generally

51:27 Speaker 8: came together on the East Coast. There was no more

51:31 Speaker 8: Red Sox Yankees rivalry for that year. It was I

51:34 Speaker 8: got your back, you got mine, Like, let's go fucking

51:37 Speaker 8: let's go do what.

51:38 Speaker 3: We need to do.

51:41 Speaker 8: But it shames me to say that I think this

51:44 Speaker 8: might have been done to us by our own people.

51:47 Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, and if anybody has a difficult time getting

51:51 Speaker 4: over that, and several people that have been looking into

51:53 Speaker 4: nine to eleven for a while already know what I'm

51:54 Speaker 4: probably gonna say, but look into Operation north Woods.

52:00 Speaker 3: So tell me.

52:01 Speaker 4: This was a document that was created back in the

52:03 Speaker 4: sixties by a gentleman by the name of General Lyman Leminster,

52:06 Speaker 4: And this was a plan to get us militarily involved

52:12 Speaker 4: in Cuba because at the time, in the Cold War era,

52:15 Speaker 4: they were concerned that Russia staging could use Cuba as

52:20 Speaker 4: a staging area. And so what they said is, okay,

52:23 Speaker 4: you know, let's create this series of incidents that make

52:29 Speaker 4: it look like Cuba attack the United States. And it

52:33 Speaker 4: was so far deeper than just Americans killing Americans like

52:36 Speaker 4: they were talking about.

52:37 Speaker 3: This is the Golf Gulf of Tonkin.

52:39 Speaker 4: That's the Vietnam No. No, no, this is this is

52:42 Speaker 4: this is the cold word, this is Operation Northwoods.

52:44 Speaker 3: Yeah no, but what was the false flag for Cuba?

52:47 Speaker 4: You're talking about the Bay of Pigs.

52:49 Speaker 3: Sorry, Golf of Tonkin, Bay of Pigs.

52:52 Speaker 4: Sorry.

52:52 Speaker 3: There's been so many times that the US government has

52:54 Speaker 3: fucking done itself in to go.

52:56 Speaker 4: To war, especially the CIA and the d D. But

52:59 Speaker 4: so back in the sixth they needed a reason to

53:01 Speaker 4: do the things they wanted to do. And in this document,

53:04 Speaker 4: if you break it down, it talks about how they

53:07 Speaker 4: were ready to make it look like Cubans were killing Americans.

53:10 Speaker 4: They were going to use psychological operations. They were going

53:13 Speaker 4: to basically mess with aircrafts. They were going to change aircrafts,

53:18 Speaker 4: make it look like they were Cuban aircrafts. They were

53:20 Speaker 4: going to be stage funerals. The media was going to

53:24 Speaker 4: corroborate all this. And they never went that route. They

53:27 Speaker 4: never did it, but they green lighted it and General

53:30 Speaker 4: Alignman Leminster literally green lighted it all the way up

53:33 Speaker 4: to I think the President looked at it, and they

53:36 Speaker 4: didn't do it. This was you know, Kennedy at the time,

53:38 Speaker 4: so people think you have to understand that to think

53:41 Speaker 4: that your federal apparatus is not capable of doing something

53:45 Speaker 4: like this. They were capable in the sixties. They were

53:48 Speaker 4: capable then.

53:49 Speaker 8: Yeah, And if you don't think they are, you're sadly

53:52 Speaker 8: your naive.

53:53 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would agree with you on that one.

53:55 Speaker 8: You're just naive and you can keep your head in

53:57 Speaker 8: the sand. It's not going to change the reality of

54:00 Speaker 8: the situation, though, is that there are too many problems

54:04 Speaker 8: with the official narrative of nine September eleventh attacks that

54:10 Speaker 8: once you start looking and you start seeing, right, not

54:15 Speaker 8: looking at the black and white narrative that they fed you,

54:18 Speaker 8: but seeing and letting people talk to you like yourself,

54:23 Speaker 8: people that were there.

54:24 Speaker 3: I wasn't there.

54:25 Speaker 8: I remember what I felt, and what I felt was

54:28 Speaker 8: the propaganda, the machine that told me to feel this

54:33 Speaker 8: way because I was a kid. I was adaptable, right.

54:36 Speaker 4: And my mom.

54:37 Speaker 8: I remember my mom picking us up from school that

54:39 Speaker 8: day because it was a short walk to the school.

54:42 Speaker 8: The look on her face I'll never forget because it

54:45 Speaker 8: was something like I'd never seen her like.

54:48 Speaker 3: It was a look like she we look.

54:51 Speaker 8: At our parents and people like of authority when we're younger,

54:54 Speaker 8: and we kind of do this with the US government

54:56 Speaker 8: like now, even as adults, it's like we think they

54:59 Speaker 8: have all the answers.

55:00 Speaker 3: Authority by us, Yeah, they well, they have all the answers.

55:02 Speaker 8: And when we're younger, we look at our parents that way,

55:04 Speaker 8: they have all the answers, and when they don't, and

55:07 Speaker 8: you see that for the first time, you go, what the.

55:11 Speaker 3: Hell is happening?

55:12 Speaker 4: Sometimes your parents don't have to be saying anything. You

55:14 Speaker 4: can just tell. Kids can tell when the energy is off, and.

55:18 Speaker 8: The energy was all the energy was off that day.

55:22 Speaker 8: All of it nothing made sense. I couldn't understand why

55:26 Speaker 8: what was happening was happening. But the days came and

55:31 Speaker 8: they went by, and I remember the slower it eased

55:35 Speaker 8: in that someone hurt us and now we're going to

55:40 Speaker 8: go punish them, and that they needed to be punished.

55:44 Speaker 3: That was the sentiment as.

55:45 Speaker 8: A kid that I understood that was brainwashed. I was

55:49 Speaker 8: a paper boy. I saw the headlines every single day

55:53 Speaker 8: and they were all nine to eleven headlines for one

55:55 Speaker 8: year straight. Rubble processes, different journalistic and you know, takes

56:03 Speaker 8: into what happened, and you know al Qaeda investigative reporting,

56:08 Speaker 8: but everything was centered on that nine to eleven attack,

56:12 Speaker 8: and it was like we were brainwashed into thinking one way,

56:16 Speaker 8: there was nothing if you went against what they were saying,

56:19 Speaker 8: you weren't just unpatriotic.

56:22 Speaker 3: Terrorists, you are a terrorist.

56:24 Speaker 4: Was George Bush saying that you were either with us

56:26 Speaker 4: or you were with the terrorists?

56:28 Speaker 3: Yeah?

56:28 Speaker 4: And yeah, yeah, So were you with the terrorists that day?

56:30 Speaker 4: I gotta ask was I with the terrorists? No? I

56:33 Speaker 4: was not with the terrorists. And I have to go

56:34 Speaker 4: to such an extent in my book to show.

56:38 Speaker 8: So it's not that you're saying the terrorists didn't do

56:42 Speaker 8: anything wrong. You're saying what we've been told and who

56:46 Speaker 8: did this to.

56:46 Speaker 3: Us is not correct.

56:48 Speaker 4: That is correct.

56:50 Speaker 3: You're not a sympathizer of terrorism, not controlled opposition.

56:55 Speaker 4: Controlled opposition. And I can't even begin to tell you

56:59 Speaker 4: why I have to go into these extensive lengths in

57:02 Speaker 4: my book. It's because, in my humble opinion, the nine

57:06 Speaker 4: to eleven accountability community, the truth movement, is actually the

57:11 Speaker 4: spook movement. And there's a handful of people that would

57:16 Speaker 4: probably agree with me, although they might differentiate on who

57:19 Speaker 4: is and who is not opposition, but I thought not

57:23 Speaker 4: trying to jump along the subject because there's so much

57:25 Speaker 4: to still cover. But later on down the road, when

57:27 Speaker 4: I got into my activism, let's just say I thought

57:30 Speaker 4: I was going to be received a certain way as

57:33 Speaker 4: a credible parts specialist, having spent extensive amount of time

57:37 Speaker 4: on site in a very proven way.

57:40 Speaker 3: Two and forty hours on site.

57:42 Speaker 4: Yeah, the from the eleventh to the thirtieth, this is

57:45 Speaker 4: all without question. You know, you can find photos of

57:48 Speaker 4: me retiring the flag in the National Archives.

57:50 Speaker 8: Yeah, and you've given me all your records to look at.

57:53 Speaker 8: I can independently verify.

57:55 Speaker 4: It one hundred percent, you can, And.

57:58 Speaker 8: So I receive you that. But you're saying that the

58:02 Speaker 8: larger community is not.

58:04 Speaker 4: I would say that the pillars. Why is that, the

58:06 Speaker 4: pillars of leadership in the nine to eleven accountability community

58:11 Speaker 4: need to control the narrative. And so they say, it's

58:16 Speaker 4: the same game, it's the same exact game, and they

58:19 Speaker 4: kind of do what they've been doing since day one.

58:22 Speaker 4: They focus on the towers. They do everything they can

58:26 Speaker 4: to draw attention away from the Pentagon. They've made the

58:29 Speaker 4: Pentagon an incredibly contentious issue within the movement. They've they've

58:34 Speaker 4: pretty much made discussions on it, you know, the irrelevant

58:39 Speaker 4: or they try to get infighting going. There's there's twenty

58:42 Speaker 4: five and I point people to this if they want

58:45 Speaker 4: to google it. It's called the twenty five Rules of

58:47 Speaker 4: disinformation and it's basically the strategies that one can produce

58:52 Speaker 4: if they're trying to cause problems. You can also see

58:56 Speaker 4: it in like the political realm if you want.

58:57 Speaker 3: To attack them anymore.

58:59 Speaker 4: So, yeah, they employ those types of things, and what

59:03 Speaker 4: they've really tried to do, in my humble opinion, is

59:05 Speaker 4: keep talk about the towers, keep talk away from suspects,

59:11 Speaker 4: try as much as they can to get victims' families

59:15 Speaker 4: to align with what they're saying, so that they can

59:18 Speaker 4: kind of covet these relationships and parade them around like

59:21 Speaker 4: there's something you know, like, oh, we've got their support,

59:24 Speaker 4: so you should support us too. But you know, keep

59:27 Speaker 4: any real efforts away from the courtroom. You know, so

59:32 Speaker 4: anytime anybody can be pulled into an actual courtroom and individual.

59:36 Speaker 3: And indicted and punished.

59:38 Speaker 4: Yes, keep it away from that. Let's just focus on generality. Yeah,

59:43 Speaker 4: how the buildings fell, the potentials. You know, there's there's

59:46 Speaker 4: multiple camps the nanothermite camp with the towers, or the

59:49 Speaker 4: directed energy weapons camp. There's also other beliefs out there.

59:53 Speaker 8: I didn't realize how sectored this thing was until I

1:00:00 Speaker 8: met the Richard Gages and then the doctor Judy Woods

1:00:04 Speaker 8: and Norman and Patricia, and it's like I'm meeting all

1:00:10 Speaker 8: these people and there's like there's one person says, don't

1:00:15 Speaker 8: talk to this person. It's like, guys, I'm going to

1:00:18 Speaker 8: do I'm gonna talk to everybody.

1:00:20 Speaker 3: I'll tell you what I find.

1:00:21 Speaker 8: After, right, you have to approach it that way, So like,

1:00:24 Speaker 8: stop asking me, stop telling me who I'm going to

1:00:26 Speaker 8: talk to. I'm going to do this the way I

1:00:29 Speaker 8: see fit and the way I need to do it

1:00:33 Speaker 8: to discern what I what. I to gather as much evidence,

1:00:40 Speaker 8: uncircumstantially and unbiased as possible and then start drawing lines

1:00:46 Speaker 8: right and inferencing. But I'm not going to I'm not

1:00:51 Speaker 8: gonna fall into those traps like I'm just I'm just not.

1:00:55 Speaker 4: The Only what I can say to you is I

1:00:57 Speaker 4: I encourage that I tell everybody go to all those places,

1:01:01 Speaker 4: you know, get to know the information where you're going

1:01:04 Speaker 4: to start to eventually run into problems is when these

1:01:07 Speaker 4: people have the ability to promote other evidence and they don't,

1:01:14 Speaker 4: or they use ad hominem attacks instead of attacking the evidence.

1:01:18 Speaker 3: They go after your character. They go after you.

1:01:21 Speaker 4: What they do pretty much with me is it speak

1:01:23 Speaker 4: no evil, see no evil here, and no evil. They

1:01:25 Speaker 4: act like I don't exist, and I've been excluded from

1:01:28 Speaker 4: a lot of the difference. I guess you could say

1:01:31 Speaker 4: bigger events. The last one that happened was in last September.

1:01:35 Speaker 4: It was a kind of a Washington fly in where

1:01:37 Speaker 4: they brought all these alleged experts in and some of

1:01:40 Speaker 4: them were legit, most of them weren't, and they had

1:01:43 Speaker 4: a three day event that was hosted by Clayton Morris

1:01:46 Speaker 4: and redacted, and they presented a bunch of evidence. So I,

1:01:50 Speaker 4: you know, was kind of excluded from that event, and

1:01:52 Speaker 4: it really pissed a lot of people off because there's

1:01:54 Speaker 4: a lot of people who are in the knowing my

1:01:56 Speaker 4: research and my book and I and I can also

1:01:59 Speaker 4: you know, give viewers a link. You can include it

1:02:02 Speaker 4: in the description of this. There's a seven and a

1:02:04 Speaker 4: half hour presentation I did with Norman Swanpole, the nine

1:02:07 Speaker 4: to eleven revisionist and It shows exactly how I stumbled

1:02:12 Speaker 4: upon subjects that should answer questions in front of a

1:02:16 Speaker 4: you know, congress or a judge. It shows all the

1:02:19 Speaker 4: anomalies that I can academically prove free and clear of me.

1:02:23 Speaker 4: And it also shows some of my very mystifying behaviors

1:02:28 Speaker 4: with members of the nine to eleven Truth community, who

1:02:31 Speaker 4: at the top pray, you know, preach this message of

1:02:34 Speaker 4: unity and if you're a witness to this event, come forward.

1:02:38 Speaker 4: But then if you actually come forward, and if they

1:02:41 Speaker 4: can't control you, and if they can't keep the limelight,

1:02:44 Speaker 4: and if they they see that you actually have the

1:02:46 Speaker 4: ability to make some kind of positive effort or some change,

1:02:50 Speaker 4: that's when they start to play their little games.

1:02:53 Speaker 8: And no, it's no different in like the UFO community,

1:02:59 Speaker 8: the the paranormal community. It's gatekeeping, it's it's it's the

1:03:08 Speaker 8: monetization of.

1:03:09 Speaker 3: The truth is and it's so crooked.

1:03:13 Speaker 4: Yeah, and people have already to your point, I haven't

1:03:16 Speaker 4: even released my book yet and people are already start

1:03:18 Speaker 4: attacking to me, You're just trying to do this for

1:03:20 Speaker 4: money purposes. I'm like, really, okay, well that's funny, because

1:03:23 Speaker 4: I already have an agreement with everybody that's participating in

1:03:26 Speaker 4: the book that we're going to donate the majority of

1:03:29 Speaker 4: the proceeds to victims, and not to victims, but to

1:03:31 Speaker 4: veterans suicide causes. Like amazing, of course, it's like you know, ultimately,

1:03:36 Speaker 4: I think you know veterans and service memory I can

1:03:38 Speaker 4: get Yeah, they paid the biggest price. So it's like,

1:03:41 Speaker 4: even if you think I'm trying to sensationalize it and

1:03:43 Speaker 4: you want to ignore all my evidence that has yet

1:03:45 Speaker 4: to be debunked, that's first to market. You can at

1:03:48 Speaker 4: least sit behind the fact that you just donated a

1:03:51 Speaker 4: nice chunk of change to a number of causes. But yeah,

1:03:55 Speaker 4: they attack it in a number of ways, and that's

1:03:57 Speaker 4: one of them.

1:03:57 Speaker 3: You know, it's sad, but it's unfortunate, but that's it's

1:04:02 Speaker 3: the For me though, If that stuff's not happening, then

1:04:08 Speaker 3: I know I'm not over the target yet, right. You

1:04:11 Speaker 3: know you're over the target when that stuff starts happening.

1:04:14 Speaker 3: And that's where you got to start drilling down. So

1:04:16 Speaker 3: keep going and don't stop because I need.

1:04:19 Speaker 8: To know where this I need to know what happened, sure,

1:04:21 Speaker 8: and I want to know in my lifetime. I think

1:04:23 Speaker 8: we owed that you are owed that specifically. So going back,

1:04:32 Speaker 8: what was it like to sift through the rubble of

1:04:34 Speaker 8: the Pentagon? And again, how tight was security? Like did

1:04:41 Speaker 8: you grab a piece of the Pentagon? Do you have

1:04:43 Speaker 8: something in it?

1:04:44 Speaker 4: So it's funny you mentioned that. I do remember them

1:04:48 Speaker 4: saying to us every single day, like especially when we

1:04:50 Speaker 4: started to go into other parts of the building that

1:04:52 Speaker 4: were like a little bit off of the alleged point

1:04:55 Speaker 4: of impact. We were going up into other floors. You know,

1:04:58 Speaker 4: you would see kind of like your coin display right there.

1:05:02 Speaker 4: You know, I'll never forget I saw a coin display

1:05:04 Speaker 4: like that, and then I saw a uniform like part

1:05:08 Speaker 4: that holds all the metals. Yeah, and this was you know,

1:05:11 Speaker 4: it was a really interesting thing to say. I was

1:05:13 Speaker 4: about to use the word cool, but I thought it

1:05:15 Speaker 4: was kind of like reflective of what was happening. But

1:05:18 Speaker 4: you could see this solid bar as they called it, Yeah,

1:05:20 Speaker 4: and it was all melted, and I thought to myself, like,

1:05:25 Speaker 4: that'd be cool to keep as like a But of

1:05:27 Speaker 4: course I didn't do that. Nobody kept anything because they

1:05:30 Speaker 4: they made every effort to get people's belongings to them.

1:05:34 Speaker 4: But security around that facility was very tight. There was

1:05:39 Speaker 4: a lot of different units. First we were part of

1:05:41 Speaker 4: the Guard detail. Then they brought in the National Guard.

1:05:43 Speaker 4: There were federal agencies that were keeping everything contained, which

1:05:47 Speaker 4: is why it's you know, not to jump around too much.

1:05:50 Speaker 4: We'll stay on this point, but that you know, the

1:05:52 Speaker 4: people I later stumbled upon that need to answer some

1:05:55 Speaker 4: questions that I've been investigating for five years. They had access,

1:05:59 Speaker 4: and so it begs the question how did they get access?

1:06:01 Speaker 4: Because it was a closed off crime scene and it

1:06:04 Speaker 4: was closed off quickly, so you know, it certainly was

1:06:11 Speaker 4: you know, in my humble opinion, it was conducted by Americans. Unfortunately,

1:06:18 Speaker 4: God damn.

1:06:23 Speaker 3: All right, well, and we'll I know how to get there.

1:06:27 Speaker 3: So just so, what exactly was your role during your.

1:06:31 Speaker 8: Two hundred and forty hours at the Pentagon? While you're there,

1:06:35 Speaker 8: what what is your official role?

1:06:37 Speaker 4: We were heavy and light labor. Okay, we we basically

1:06:40 Speaker 4: And I can give you my I think I've already

1:06:42 Speaker 4: given you my my Army achieve in medal. Yea, yeah,

1:06:45 Speaker 4: they have the bullets there, but we worked it side

1:06:49 Speaker 4: by side with federal.

1:06:50 Speaker 8: I show that, please, okay, yeah, yeah, so I can.

1:06:53 Speaker 8: I'll show everything.

1:06:54 Speaker 3: I'll redact certain person already pre redacted.

1:06:57 Speaker 4: The only thing that was removed was my social so

1:06:59 Speaker 4: you're you can use that.

1:07:00 Speaker 8: Oh yeah, that's right, okay, because I do want to

1:07:02 Speaker 8: show people that like can be verified, like you were there,

1:07:05 Speaker 8: you are who you say you are, so okay.

1:07:08 Speaker 4: You to your point, though, we did any kind of

1:07:11 Speaker 4: heavy and light labor that was needed that meant moving things.

1:07:16 Speaker 4: We sifted through Rebel looking for what we thought were

1:07:18 Speaker 4: alleged parts. And I can get into that in a

1:07:21 Speaker 4: second after I answer this question about what those parts were.

1:07:25 Speaker 4: But we talked with the victims families, offering any kind

1:07:30 Speaker 4: of support where we could. I've been able to find

1:07:31 Speaker 4: in my research where they were actually bringing people from

1:07:34 Speaker 4: the Old Guard to talk to victims family members, which

1:07:36 Speaker 4: I never got to do that, but I thought that

1:07:37 Speaker 4: was fascinating. We worked in the sifting operation that was

1:07:42 Speaker 4: in the North Parking lot, so we basically we the

1:07:45 Speaker 4: Old Guard and these agents pulled everything out of that building,

1:07:49 Speaker 4: and I mean desks, office, furniture, every single thing that

1:07:53 Speaker 4: was in that portion of the building came out. We

1:07:56 Speaker 4: took it then over to the North Parking Lot and

1:07:58 Speaker 4: they sifted through it trying to find additional evidence, and

1:08:01 Speaker 4: wouldn't you know that's when all the additional evidence was found.

1:08:04 Speaker 4: I think it's kind of funny. You remove stuff out

1:08:06 Speaker 4: of a building, you don't find it, and then all

1:08:09 Speaker 4: of a sudden, over here where there's a multi agency

1:08:12 Speaker 4: entity going on, that's when all of a sudden.

1:08:14 Speaker 3: Oh, passports, here's.

1:08:16 Speaker 4: Passports, here's ID cards, here's It's like, no, how did

1:08:19 Speaker 4: you carry stuff out of the building not see it,

1:08:22 Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden you find it over here?

1:08:23 Speaker 4: How does that work?

1:08:25 Speaker 3: I think they want to rely on that.

1:08:27 Speaker 8: The whole idea is like, well, we took it out

1:08:30 Speaker 8: to find it, That's how we found it, exactly right.

1:08:33 Speaker 8: It's like, okay, I get that part. I get that part,

1:08:38 Speaker 8: but like you're telling me a paper passport survives where

1:08:46 Speaker 8: human bodies are melted and incinerated, it just it doesn't

1:08:52 Speaker 8: compute for me. And like what their evidence became was,

1:08:57 Speaker 8: like you said, it's all like this little stuff that

1:09:00 Speaker 8: they say add up, adds up to tell that story

1:09:03 Speaker 8: of what happened that day, and it's just like I

1:09:07 Speaker 8: don't I'm not seeing what you're seeing. How is this

1:09:10 Speaker 8: so what was found that you would say that they

1:09:12 Speaker 8: think is the biggest supporter of the official narrative.

1:09:17 Speaker 4: So it's funny you say that the only pictures that

1:09:19 Speaker 4: we have of allegedly Flight seventy seven are the small

1:09:25 Speaker 4: scraps that were left outside of the building. There's a

1:09:28 Speaker 4: couple of pieces that would lead try to lead somebody

1:09:31 Speaker 4: to think that it was American Airlines Flight seventy seven.

1:09:33 Speaker 4: There's a couple of things you can see a couple

1:09:37 Speaker 4: of these alleged parts where you can see kind of

1:09:39 Speaker 4: a small piece of what appears to be an American

1:09:41 Speaker 4: Airlines logo. That's one the most I guess you could

1:09:45 Speaker 4: say critical piece. It's hysterical because if you actually work

1:09:49 Speaker 4: in the aeronautical parts industry, you're gonna know that it's bullshit.

1:09:53 Speaker 4: It's a part and it's got an American Airlines logo

1:09:56 Speaker 4: on it, and then it has a serial number that's

1:09:58 Speaker 4: written into it with magic marker. And as a former

1:10:02 Speaker 4: parts specialist and just say, that's not how it's done.

1:10:07 Speaker 4: It's not. It's just not you you keep serial numbers

1:10:10 Speaker 4: etched into everything. In the event that you know there's

1:10:13 Speaker 4: a major fire, you know it doesn't the if.

1:10:16 Speaker 8: The yeah, so you essentially do it so that if

1:10:19 Speaker 8: the part survives, the serial numbers survives.

1:10:21 Speaker 4: Yes, it's there, and it's I'm talking the nuts, the bolts,

1:10:24 Speaker 4: the screws. Every single thing has a serial number. There's

1:10:28 Speaker 4: there's a wide range of things that have mass, like

1:10:30 Speaker 4: the screws and the bolts and stuff mass numbers, but

1:10:33 Speaker 4: like very specific engine components, all these other things which

1:10:38 Speaker 4: can be tracked can be tracked. And that's where I

1:10:40 Speaker 4: think if you really want to break the riddle apart.

1:10:43 Speaker 4: You know, engines weigh eight thousand pounds dry. They're massive, huge,

1:10:48 Speaker 4: huge things. And let's just assume that that built, you know,

1:10:52 Speaker 4: that plane could fly at that speed, that low and

1:10:54 Speaker 4: do things that it's not even designed to do. Where

1:10:57 Speaker 4: are these two gargantuans sized holes where two engines should be?

1:11:04 Speaker 4: Where are they? They're nowhere to be found.

1:11:06 Speaker 8: You describe what the what the before we go to

1:11:11 Speaker 8: take the first to take the break, can you describe

1:11:14 Speaker 8: to me the first day you're there, because this would

1:11:18 Speaker 8: be when the wound is freshest. Can you describe what

1:11:22 Speaker 8: you see as the impact site? I know you did

1:11:25 Speaker 8: a little bit, but did it look like a plane

1:11:27 Speaker 8: hit this place or did it look like.

1:11:29 Speaker 3: A missile, hitten, I don't think. I don't want to

1:11:31 Speaker 3: put words in your mouth. I apologize, No, no, no.

1:11:33 Speaker 4: It's I'm glad you're saying this. I don't think it

1:11:36 Speaker 4: was a missile. I've said this for a long time

1:11:38 Speaker 4: because even a missile, and I'm not an expert on missiles,

1:11:41 Speaker 4: but look what is being done with missiles in this

1:11:43 Speaker 4: day and age, especially with like Gaza. I think that

1:11:47 Speaker 4: the missile, any type of missile, is going to leave

1:11:50 Speaker 4: a different explosion profile than what I physically saw, because

1:11:55 Speaker 4: you know, even if you you know, if you we

1:11:58 Speaker 4: get there, we see this, you know, fully, you know,

1:12:02 Speaker 4: manicure in this lawn that looked like it wasn't you know,

1:12:05 Speaker 4: touch touched at all, you know, and then you know,

1:12:07 Speaker 4: one would think that the plane would just drill out

1:12:09 Speaker 4: this hole, you know, and that we'd see wingspan scratches

1:12:13 Speaker 4: and everything. It's just there was none of it, none

1:12:17 Speaker 4: of it. And you would think that you smelled jet fuel.

1:12:20 Speaker 4: I didn't smell jet fuel, not at all. Nothing. It

1:12:24 Speaker 4: smelled like you know, when an area is extremely wet,

1:12:30 Speaker 4: you can kind of smell like the water, the moisture,

1:12:34 Speaker 4: it smoldering, you know, like like if you ever been

1:12:38 Speaker 4: by a house fire.

1:12:39 Speaker 3: Even like yeah, yeah, yeah right, it's.

1:12:41 Speaker 4: That kind of like wet, kind of smoldering smell. And

1:12:44 Speaker 4: not only that, you know, human remains have a very

1:12:46 Speaker 4: distinct smell. You could kind of smell that as well.

1:12:51 Speaker 3: But the no jet fuel, No.

1:12:54 Speaker 4: I never smelled jet fuel. There's no way. There's just

1:12:57 Speaker 4: no way.

1:12:57 Speaker 3: In a in a double engine commercial airline, how much

1:13:05 Speaker 3: jet fuel do they hold a full capacity? Can you

1:13:08 Speaker 3: look that up?

1:13:09 Speaker 4: Well, here's the interesting thing some of these is this

1:13:11 Speaker 4: sort of just taken off. Yeah, some of the firefighters

1:13:14 Speaker 4: were burned by what they thought was jet fuel. And

1:13:17 Speaker 4: you know, I believe personally, based off you know, everything,

1:13:21 Speaker 4: that what actually happened was planted inside the building.

1:13:26 Speaker 3: There are so you think it was an internal Yeah.

1:13:29 Speaker 4: There. There are multiple testimonies that are open source that

1:13:32 Speaker 4: can be heard discussing multiple explosions. There are multiple testimonies

1:13:38 Speaker 4: that can be heard or read excuse me talking about fireballs.

1:13:43 Speaker 4: But this is also a fantastic time to say there

1:13:47 Speaker 4: are no witnesses that even talk for one second about missiles.

1:13:51 Speaker 4: There are, however, thanks to the efforts of Aldo Marquis

1:13:55 Speaker 4: and Craig RANKI of Citizen Investigation Team. Their material can

1:13:59 Speaker 4: be owned at national Security Alert dot com or Citizen

1:14:02 Speaker 4: Investigation dot Team dot com. Uh. They have conducted pretty much,

1:14:08 Speaker 4: you know, all the groundwork and have given testimony starting

1:14:12 Speaker 4: from the Navy an X to Arlington Cemetery, to Pentagon

1:14:16 Speaker 4: employees right outside the building, to Pentagon employees that saw

1:14:19 Speaker 4: a flyover, and then they even were able to capture

1:14:23 Speaker 4: pretty much a virtual confession by a guy by the

1:14:26 Speaker 4: name of Lloyd England. He's the one that was in

1:14:29 Speaker 4: the taxicab that allegedly, you know, the plane flew over

1:14:32 Speaker 4: and it hit the light pole and the light pole

1:14:34 Speaker 4: came down and fractured his taxicab.

1:14:37 Speaker 3: So there's a lot of did he admit that he

1:14:40 Speaker 3: was lying?

1:14:41 Speaker 4: Well, I don't want to put his words. You know,

1:14:44 Speaker 4: anybody can go watch the videos. They're they're there right now.

1:14:48 Speaker 4: But but he basically admitted that he was a part

1:14:51 Speaker 4: of it, and it's it's I'm gonna let his talking.

1:14:55 Speaker 3: Yeah, future future Tyler put that video right here.

1:14:58 Speaker 4: How long is it citizen to get I can get

1:15:02 Speaker 4: you in touch with them.

1:15:02 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay.

1:15:03 Speaker 4: National Security Alert is their video. They also have a

1:15:06 Speaker 4: bunch of other supplemental videos where they they talk about

1:15:09 Speaker 4: multiple witnesses that talk about a north of the Citgo approach,

1:15:15 Speaker 4: and the documents that were released years after the road

1:15:20 Speaker 4: basically states that flight seventy seven came through south of

1:15:24 Speaker 4: the Citgo gas station. You know, it hit some light poles,

1:15:27 Speaker 4: it hit the construction generator, and then it went into

1:15:30 Speaker 4: the building. Multiple you know, evidence, not evidence, multiple testimonies

1:15:36 Speaker 4: show that the plane. You know, this is considered evidence.

1:15:39 Speaker 3: It's it's technically its witness evidence.

1:15:42 Speaker 4: Yeah, evidence that people you know said, hey, you know,

1:15:45 Speaker 4: and they're giving these interviews like literally right on the

1:15:48 Speaker 4: Sitgo gas station lawn, right at the Navy Annex. They're like, Nope,

1:15:51 Speaker 4: the plane came north of the Citgo gas station. And

1:15:54 Speaker 4: you know, they're they describe a completely different situation, a

1:15:58 Speaker 4: plane going at completely different speed. There's also witnesses talk

1:16:01 Speaker 4: about a prop plane that was following that one that day.

1:16:05 Speaker 4: But but they've got it all pretty much wrapped up.

1:16:07 Speaker 4: And I've become friends with Aldo Marquis. He would pretty

1:16:11 Speaker 4: much step up and assist me if I ever needed

1:16:13 Speaker 4: him with any questions. But he he can even speak

1:16:16 Speaker 4: to great lengths at the amount of I guess you

1:16:19 Speaker 4: could say turbulence and flack that he has received and

1:16:23 Speaker 4: that his team is received over the years in this

1:16:25 Speaker 4: issue with people trying to delegitimize his efforts in a

1:16:29 Speaker 4: similar fashion of the way they did me. The only

1:16:31 Speaker 4: thing is that I'm a witness, so they can't. They've

1:16:33 Speaker 4: got to go about me a completely.

1:16:35 Speaker 8: Completely way because they it's like, how much does it hold?

1:16:40 Speaker 8: How much jet fueld is a commercial airline hold at full?

1:16:46 Speaker 8: It's like, yeah, there's no way you're not smelling jet

1:16:51 Speaker 8: fuel if it's burning.

1:16:52 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and it doesn't what the hell?

1:16:55 Speaker 4: Man flight was supposed to go to California, So.

1:16:58 Speaker 8: What I was gonna say, you're you're It was about

1:17:02 Speaker 8: not even an hour into its flight.

1:17:03 Speaker 4: Allegedly turned around in over Ohio, started to come back

1:17:07 Speaker 4: this way, And everybody doesn't take this into consideration as well.

1:17:11 Speaker 4: If you hijack a plane and you want to fly

1:17:12 Speaker 4: it into the Pentagon, one would think that you would

1:17:14 Speaker 4: get to your target as quickly as you.

1:17:16 Speaker 3: Can direct line.

1:17:17 Speaker 4: Got mother down right to it. That's not how it happened. Honey.

1:17:20 Speaker 4: Hanjor took a nice leisurely flight. I say that jokingly

1:17:24 Speaker 4: around you know DC.

1:17:26 Speaker 3: You know he wanted he did, did the sight seeing,

1:17:28 Speaker 3: did the sight seeing tour. They want to see everything

1:17:30 Speaker 3: before he destroyed it.

1:17:31 Speaker 4: He performed a diving corkscrew maneuver. Where you've got multiple

1:17:37 Speaker 4: people that have come forward, people like Dan Hanley, who's

1:17:41 Speaker 4: nine to eleven pilot whistleblowers dot org.

1:17:44 Speaker 3: I want to talk to all these people.

1:17:45 Speaker 4: Yeah, people like well Rob Balsamo, he's no longer with us,

1:17:48 Speaker 4: but he had a group called Pilots for nine to eleven.

1:17:51 Speaker 4: Truth you need These are pilots with tens of thousands

1:17:54 Speaker 4: of hours, ones that have flown combat missions. Aces.

1:17:58 Speaker 3: Couldn't do this, could not do this, could not not with.

1:18:01 Speaker 8: A commercial airline. No, it's just it's it's almost laughable

1:18:06 Speaker 8: in hindsight to think that that's the official narrative.

1:18:09 Speaker 4: Well, look at and I don't try to jump around,

1:18:11 Speaker 4: but look, I mean what COVID showed us. You know,

1:18:15 Speaker 4: if anybody had any questions about the ability for the

1:18:18 Speaker 4: for the government forces to manipulate the masses, look what

1:18:21 Speaker 4: happened there for five and what's still happening. They're still

1:18:24 Speaker 4: talking about how Fauci you know, we're still yeah, should

1:18:28 Speaker 4: never get held accountable and.

1:18:29 Speaker 8: And and he can't be No, we've we've we've now

1:18:34 Speaker 8: passed the time where we can do anything about it.

1:18:38 Speaker 3: But we talked about it on Twitter a lot, a lot,

1:18:41 Speaker 3: a lot a lot.

1:18:42 Speaker 8: We talk about everything, but we we just don't act

1:18:45 Speaker 8: on it.

1:18:45 Speaker 3: You know.

1:18:46 Speaker 8: You know what throws me off. And this is a

1:18:47 Speaker 8: little side danger before we got on the break is

1:18:49 Speaker 8: when we come back. So again again, I want to

1:18:51 Speaker 8: go back to this. So bring me back to the

1:18:58 Speaker 8: first time you lay eyes on the Pentagon destruction. Just

1:19:05 Speaker 8: you've told us what it smelled like, wet, What is

1:19:09 Speaker 8: your what are your eyes? Bring me back, what are

1:19:12 Speaker 8: you seeing?

1:19:13 Speaker 3: What size hole?

1:19:14 Speaker 8: Approximately it's you said, it doesn't look like a plane. Yeah,

1:19:18 Speaker 8: just bring me back as the best you can.

1:19:20 Speaker 4: I envisioned seeing this massive effort with first responders coming

1:19:25 Speaker 4: in and out of the building at a frantic rate,

1:19:28 Speaker 4: even hours after the incident took place. I envisioned seeing,

1:19:33 Speaker 4: you know, some type of even hours after the event happening,

1:19:37 Speaker 4: remnants of aeronautical parts something. It was. It was eerily chill,

1:19:44 Speaker 4: it was it was spooky. That's the only thing that

1:19:47 Speaker 4: I can say. I remember getting there and I was

1:19:50 Speaker 4: looking over at that portion of the building, and I'm

1:19:52 Speaker 4: just like, this doesn't make any sense, This doesn't add

1:19:57 Speaker 4: this doesn't add up. And later on down the road,

1:20:01 Speaker 4: not trying to go away from what you're saying, but

1:20:02 Speaker 4: it matters. A guy that I served with that got

1:20:06 Speaker 4: to our company shortly after that event, he reached out

1:20:10 Speaker 4: to me. He's like, dude, I saw you on a podcast.

1:20:12 Speaker 4: He's like, I think it's great what you're doing. He's like,

1:20:14 Speaker 4: you know, I'll never ever forget one of our first encounters,

1:20:18 Speaker 4: he said, you know, when I, you know, started to

1:20:20 Speaker 4: get to know people at the company. You know, He's like,

1:20:23 Speaker 4: I remember asking you kind of like you asked me today,

1:20:26 Speaker 4: you know, tell me about what it was like to

1:20:28 Speaker 4: be there, because he he got there after everything, and

1:20:30 Speaker 4: it was like he didn't get to see it, but

1:20:32 Speaker 4: he knew that our company just went through all this,

1:20:34 Speaker 4: and I without even batting and eye, I was like,

1:20:37 Speaker 4: a plane didn't hit that building. A plane did not

1:20:40 Speaker 4: hit that building. And he reached out to me later

1:20:43 Speaker 4: because I've been saying these types of things and in

1:20:46 Speaker 4: small circles, so.

1:20:47 Speaker 3: You are certain that very even from early on, a

1:20:52 Speaker 3: plane did not hit this building.

1:20:53 Speaker 4: And he's going to come forward.

1:20:55 Speaker 3: You know, hey, you got a platform if you want it.

1:20:58 Speaker 4: He's going to do a little affid that just talks

1:21:00 Speaker 4: about this because people, you know, they tried to attack

1:21:03 Speaker 4: me in a number of ways, and it's like, no,

1:21:05 Speaker 4: I'm not trying to grift here. I'm not trying to

1:21:08 Speaker 4: sensationalize this to set up some type of a monetary gain.

1:21:11 Speaker 4: I'm trying to force accountability. And his testimony, Kevin Jones

1:21:16 Speaker 4: is going to prove that I've been saying this shit

1:21:19 Speaker 4: for a long time. The plane wasn't there. It didn't

1:21:23 Speaker 4: make sense, it didn't add up. And that's that's from

1:21:25 Speaker 4: the moment we got there. And again going back to

1:21:27 Speaker 4: Matt Colton's statement, he's just like we expected more damage.

1:21:32 Speaker 4: It's just like we're watching the towers fall all day,

1:21:34 Speaker 4: these gigantic buildings, and now you're telling me the same

1:21:37 Speaker 4: type of aircraft, a commercial jet, did that little you know,

1:21:43 Speaker 4: ignore the evidence of your eyes and ears. It just

1:21:46 Speaker 4: did not make a bit of sense. And no emergency

1:21:49 Speaker 4: response even that day I was able to.

1:21:51 Speaker 8: Keep doesn't say you still have a real job to do.

1:21:54 Speaker 8: There's still real shit happening. There is there is an impact. Yeah,

1:21:59 Speaker 8: so like what is that impact really look like?

1:22:01 Speaker 5: It was?

1:22:01 Speaker 4: Well, that day it was hurry up and wait we

1:22:03 Speaker 4: got to there. And that goes back to my initial.

1:22:06 Speaker 3: Mad like how many windows like long, like how big

1:22:11 Speaker 3: was the hole? And it was it was just one hole.

1:22:13 Speaker 4: I mean, well, no, we got there, the portion of

1:22:15 Speaker 4: the building had already collapsed, and so you could kind

1:22:18 Speaker 4: of see even in pictures after that collapse took place

1:22:21 Speaker 4: where there was kind of holes in the wall. But

1:22:24 Speaker 4: we were still using service doors to get in and

1:22:27 Speaker 4: out of there. It's not like we could just walk

1:22:28 Speaker 4: right in. Yeah. Ok, we and even then, I've said

1:22:33 Speaker 4: it before, I'll say it, we didn't even start to

1:22:36 Speaker 4: engage in a real hands on go in you know,

1:22:39 Speaker 4: makeuh yeah. From like there are some people I've been

1:22:43 Speaker 4: able to find testimonies from people in my unit that

1:22:45 Speaker 4: were doing that, but as a massive hole we were not.

1:22:50 Speaker 4: And I even was able to gather a picture from

1:22:53 Speaker 4: my research down the road where the Naval Historical Society

1:22:57 Speaker 4: basically captured a picture of a bunch of people in

1:22:59 Speaker 4: my unit on September twelfth, you know, this was the

1:23:04 Speaker 4: day after the event where a whole group of people

1:23:06 Speaker 4: are just sleeping, and I was like, yes, that that

1:23:09 Speaker 4: perfectly kind of reflects. You know, we got brought on

1:23:12 Speaker 4: site in mass and then we just kind of sat

1:23:15 Speaker 4: there and it's like, what the hell are we doing?

1:23:18 Speaker 4: The first moments, the first day, the first couple of days,

1:23:22 Speaker 4: it's it's just not what you would expected to see

1:23:26 Speaker 4: if even if you weren't a firefighter, you weren't part

1:23:28 Speaker 4: of normal first response. Nobody was doing anything. Really, it

1:23:33 Speaker 4: was just kind of a lot.

1:23:34 Speaker 8: Of Death's so weird, you realize because like even like

1:23:37 Speaker 8: the like you see when earthquakes happen, they have people

1:23:40 Speaker 8: in there right away doing things, doing like search and

1:23:46 Speaker 8: rescue operations like get anyone alive out? Is there anyone alive?

1:23:51 Speaker 8: Assessing whether anyone survived? That would you think that would.

1:23:55 Speaker 3: Be their first priority, right.

1:23:57 Speaker 4: You would think. Now now that I have a much

1:24:00 Speaker 4: deeper understanding, and I've been investigating it for five years,

1:24:02 Speaker 4: I have a reason to believe that what they were

1:24:04 Speaker 4: doing is the agents that were responsible for what took

1:24:08 Speaker 4: place on the ground that day were clearing out any

1:24:10 Speaker 4: bit of traces of what they use.

1:24:13 Speaker 3: Cleaning the scene. Yes, they were cleansing themselves.

1:24:16 Speaker 4: And I can Jesus Christ. I can prove this in

1:24:19 Speaker 4: a lot of different ways, and suffice.

1:24:22 Speaker 3: To say, so are these people that are doing this? Who?

1:24:25 Speaker 8: Do we have names of the individuals responsible for sanitizing

1:24:29 Speaker 8: that scene.

1:24:30 Speaker 4: I've got a name, and if you go to my

1:24:32 Speaker 4: Instagram account, you're going.

1:24:34 Speaker 3: To put I'll put this picture right here.

1:24:36 Speaker 4: You're going to see this individual. I'm just going to

1:24:39 Speaker 4: say this to protect myself legally. All I've been I've

1:24:44 Speaker 4: been investigating this for five years. I stumbled into this

1:24:47 Speaker 4: gentleman when I had a podcast similar to what you

1:24:50 Speaker 4: and I are doing right now. I talked, I went

1:24:52 Speaker 4: on this podcast, and then all of a sudden, a

1:24:55 Speaker 4: lot of people that follow this other gentleman that I've

1:24:59 Speaker 4: been able to uncut, they started to show up in

1:25:02 Speaker 4: the comments section of this podcast that I was on,

1:25:05 Speaker 4: and they started to basically say this guy's name, and

1:25:08 Speaker 4: they started to try to direct anybody to this gentleman's content,

1:25:12 Speaker 4: and they said, you know, this guy was a first

1:25:14 Speaker 4: responder to you know, you should go talk to him,

1:25:18 Speaker 4: and he, you know, espoused a completely different belief system

1:25:22 Speaker 4: than I did. And so then when you know, this

1:25:24 Speaker 4: is April of twenty twenty one I stumbled under this guy.

1:25:29 Speaker 4: He started to basically shoot himself in the foot, trying

1:25:33 Speaker 4: to prove the accusations that he basically was making surrounding

1:25:38 Speaker 4: that incident, which fell completely and totally in line with

1:25:41 Speaker 4: the official narrative. He started to come out and talk

1:25:46 Speaker 4: and he was saying things that were so easily disproven

1:25:50 Speaker 4: that it begged further investigation because he was saying that

1:25:54 Speaker 4: he was like the head of logistics, which the Arlington

1:25:56 Speaker 4: after Action port was like, No, Chief White was the

1:25:59 Speaker 4: head of logistics. He was saying that he was removing

1:26:01 Speaker 4: specific parts of the of the plane, you know, parts

1:26:05 Speaker 4: that you know, he said, he was handling the different

1:26:08 Speaker 4: types of procedures that he was doing, the different types

1:26:11 Speaker 4: of access that he had. He was showing pictures and videos.

1:26:15 Speaker 4: He was helping with the shoring up of the building.

1:26:17 Speaker 4: So he was there, he was doing things. He was

1:26:20 Speaker 4: He was at one point in time stopping and starting

1:26:25 Speaker 4: the entire operation while usaar teams were like holding back

1:26:29 Speaker 4: and he was working with an excavator digging stuff out

1:26:32 Speaker 4: of the ground, with a member of DA, the Defensive

1:26:36 Speaker 4: Intelligence Agency, you know, talking to him. So this guy

1:26:40 Speaker 4: what he came out in twenty twenty one and I

1:26:43 Speaker 4: started to investigate him. His name is Lee Wheelberger. If

1:26:48 Speaker 4: you go to my Instagram, which is Awakened Adam, and

1:26:51 Speaker 4: you go back to twenty twenty one, you're going to

1:26:53 Speaker 4: see that I spent a lot of time showing kind

1:26:56 Speaker 4: of the first encounters that I had with this man

1:27:00 Speaker 4: and kind of giving people a glimpse into the way

1:27:03 Speaker 4: that I was, you know, approaching what he was saying

1:27:06 Speaker 4: and then using it against him. And since then, in

1:27:09 Speaker 4: the last five years, I've been able to prove a

1:27:12 Speaker 4: heck of a lot more on this guy on his team,

1:27:15 Speaker 4: which allegedly James Schwartz said that this guy was.

1:27:18 Speaker 3: So this guy's coming forward. What is he saying? Is

1:27:20 Speaker 3: he saying like? Is he going along with the official narrative?

1:27:24 Speaker 3: He's just a YouTube? Like? Is he podcasting and doing this?

1:27:27 Speaker 4: Or is he he provides a private paid.

1:27:31 Speaker 3: News Oh Jesus, it gets worse.

1:27:34 Speaker 4: Well, and so the angle that is it from is

1:27:36 Speaker 4: this angle.

1:27:37 Speaker 3: Of kind pay for the truth?

1:27:39 Speaker 4: Now, Well, you're basically getting information from a person that

1:27:42 Speaker 4: worked in the intelligence sectors and the Joint Terrorism Task

1:27:46 Speaker 4: Force sectors, you know, did it for over thirty years

1:27:50 Speaker 4: and you're getting his expertise.

1:27:53 Speaker 8: And his kind of John Karaoke does a free radio

1:27:57 Speaker 8: show for the Russian government.

1:27:59 Speaker 3: I don't get it.

1:28:00 Speaker 8: He did all that stuff too, like like I'm just

1:28:04 Speaker 8: that that blows my mind that they do that kind

1:28:06 Speaker 8: of stuff.

1:28:06 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, And so what he started to do from

1:28:09 Speaker 4: early twenty twenty one May April and May of twenty

1:28:12 Speaker 4: twenty one, he started to speak on me during his

1:28:15 Speaker 4: live broadcasts, Oh geez. And he would basically paint this

1:28:19 Speaker 4: perception to his audience that he wanted to engage in

1:28:22 Speaker 4: a civilized discussion, and then you know, he would make

1:28:26 Speaker 4: it seem like that in the YouTube comment sections, and

1:28:29 Speaker 4: then you know, if anybody following him, and then when

1:28:31 Speaker 4: he was in like the middle of his broadcast, he

1:28:33 Speaker 4: would just go in on me and he would try

1:28:36 Speaker 4: to hit me from every which possible angle. I would

1:28:38 Speaker 4: take his response, I would transcribe it, I would debunk it.

1:28:42 Speaker 4: I would put it through all the research filters, and

1:28:44 Speaker 4: then I would go back to him and basically say,

1:28:47 Speaker 4: you're lying, this doesn't make sense. Look, this is what

1:28:50 Speaker 4: the research and then his response would be even more desperate.

1:28:54 Speaker 4: And We've been playing this game now for about five years.

1:28:57 Speaker 4: I've guiden him to admit without saying it a number

1:29:02 Speaker 4: of things. I believe, based on what he said, that

1:29:06 Speaker 4: he was Central Intelligence Agency. And I believe that because

1:29:10 Speaker 4: he started to show pictures of what he was doing

1:29:12 Speaker 4: in Ukraine in twenty fifteen when that effort first got

1:29:15 Speaker 4: kicked off. He's been serving and continues to serve for

1:29:19 Speaker 4: a long time. Yeah, he even admitted in a news

1:29:22 Speaker 4: broadcast as recently as last year that he was assisting

1:29:25 Speaker 4: in Ukraine's war efforts against Russia.

1:29:30 Speaker 3: Who is this guy?

1:29:31 Speaker 4: That's right, who is this guy? I can tell you

1:29:33 Speaker 4: that he is attached to It.

1:29:35 Speaker 8: Sounds like CIA, Well, it sounds like CIA.

1:29:39 Speaker 4: There was a this is open source information. There's a

1:29:42 Speaker 4: variety of institutions and agencies that were getting involved in

1:29:47 Speaker 4: Ukraine in twenty fifteen when that effort was really ramping up.

1:29:51 Speaker 4: There was the Department of State, There was USAID, There

1:29:55 Speaker 4: was the I believe, Department of Treasury. They were kind

1:29:57 Speaker 4: of getting involved a little bit doing treasury thing. But

1:30:00 Speaker 4: there were two institutions that he could have fell into,

1:30:04 Speaker 4: the Department of Defense and the CIA. Well, there's a

1:30:09 Speaker 4: series of pictures that I can show you that Lee

1:30:11 Speaker 4: used to brag about and show all the time. He

1:30:13 Speaker 4: doesn't do it very much anymore, but it was a

1:30:16 Speaker 4: picture of him training Specops guys in January of twenty

1:30:21 Speaker 4: fifteen over in Ukraine. And there's a couple people in

1:30:24 Speaker 4: this photograph that are very important, one of which is

1:30:27 Speaker 4: a guy by the name of Valerie Kondratuk. He was

1:30:31 Speaker 4: the head of Ukraine's intelligence wing at the time, and

1:30:36 Speaker 4: so it begs the question, Okay, why was this guy

1:30:39 Speaker 4: Lee specifically over there in Ukraine doing this at this time.

1:30:44 Speaker 4: And if you get to know Lee's levels of expertise,

1:30:47 Speaker 4: he's brilliant when it comes to drones, drone warfare. But

1:30:53 Speaker 4: you know they were getting into all that stuff too.

1:30:54 Speaker 4: He later showed pictures of him working with like the

1:30:57 Speaker 4: first drone team that Ukraine had to offer. But what

1:31:01 Speaker 4: makes it even more fascinating. ABC News did an article

1:31:04 Speaker 4: on Valerie Condra Trip down the Road and talked about,

1:31:08 Speaker 4: you know, this initial wave of relationship that came to

1:31:13 Speaker 4: be between Ukraine and the United States. Originally, Valerie Kondratouk

1:31:18 Speaker 4: wanted to speak to people in the DA so he thought,

1:31:24 Speaker 4: you know, I'm a military guy. I specialized in military intelligence.

1:31:27 Speaker 4: I should go to the military intelligence for you know,

1:31:31 Speaker 4: the department.

1:31:32 Speaker 3: My brethren, Yeah, like brother in arms d.

1:31:35 Speaker 4: D or excuse me, the DA wanted nothing to do

1:31:37 Speaker 4: with them, And you can look this up. It's in

1:31:38 Speaker 4: an ABC article. Still it's active. But then he decided

1:31:42 Speaker 4: to turn his attention to the CIA, and that's when

1:31:46 Speaker 4: things just took off. And then all of a sudden,

1:31:48 Speaker 4: my subject at the Pentagon is smack dab right there

1:31:53 Speaker 4: next to him training on the battlefield. So yeah, my

1:31:57 Speaker 4: subject was removed. According to James Schwartz, the incident commander,

1:32:01 Speaker 4: he was removed literally on I believe September twelfth, and

1:32:06 Speaker 4: Lee's story is that he stuck around for seven days

1:32:09 Speaker 4: and that he basically was engaged in a whole series

1:32:13 Speaker 4: of different tasks that he could and his team could

1:32:17 Speaker 4: basically do anything they want, but over the last.

1:32:20 Speaker 8: So they had an open access badge to this entire

1:32:25 Speaker 8: crime scene that was the Pentagon.

1:32:27 Speaker 4: Well, and he was not even anywhere near the Pentagon

1:32:30 Speaker 4: allegedly when this whole incident took place where he really

1:32:33 Speaker 4: shot himself in the foot the most metaphorically speaking, I

1:32:38 Speaker 4: forced him to basically give up his timeline in September

1:32:42 Speaker 4: of two thousand and one, he decided to do a

1:32:44 Speaker 4: twentieth anniversary special where he produced an eight hour long

1:32:49 Speaker 4: documentary on the subject, which specifically hours oh Yeah, oh Yeah,

1:32:54 Speaker 4: where he specifically talked about how he came to arrive

1:32:58 Speaker 4: at the Pentagon and in that where he was in Harrisonburg,

1:33:02 Speaker 4: Virginia that day that morning doing what he was doing,

1:33:06 Speaker 4: you know, and doing everything that he was doing in

1:33:08 Speaker 4: two thousand and one, from being in New York City

1:33:11 Speaker 4: to fighting wildfires out west, to coming back to Virginia

1:33:14 Speaker 4: the day of, you know, to checking into this hotel

1:33:17 Speaker 4: even though he just got home to his hometown. You know,

1:33:19 Speaker 4: you go on a log road trip, you go across

1:33:21 Speaker 4: the country, then you come back. What's the first thing

1:33:23 Speaker 4: you're gonna do? Get home, take a shower, and yeah, no,

1:33:26 Speaker 4: he went and checked into a hotel. And yeah, his

1:33:29 Speaker 4: timeline from Harrisonburg, Virginia to the Pentagon is physically impossible.

1:33:36 Speaker 4: And the questions that I've been able to ask him

1:33:38 Speaker 4: and the responses I've received over the last five years,

1:33:41 Speaker 4: they beg so many other questions. But ultimately, what do

1:33:45 Speaker 4: you what's.

1:33:46 Speaker 3: The endgame here?

1:33:47 Speaker 8: What do you think his do you think he is

1:33:49 Speaker 8: just controlled opposition. Do you think he had ultimately knows

1:33:54 Speaker 8: more about what really went.

1:33:56 Speaker 3: Down and is playing cover? Well, what is the importance

1:33:59 Speaker 3: of Lee?

1:34:00 Speaker 4: He was the senior technologist of the United States.

1:34:03 Speaker 3: Does he need to be like subpoenaed?

1:34:05 Speaker 4: I would say, yes, yeah, I've got one hundred and

1:34:07 Speaker 4: eighty thousand words. Now probably I've got a I had

1:34:11 Speaker 4: my latest round with him where he attempted to use

1:34:15 Speaker 4: fake AI to make me look like a fool, which

1:34:18 Speaker 4: it didn't work. He basically took like an off screen

1:34:23 Speaker 4: chat prompt and just kept asking it questions and saying

1:34:26 Speaker 4: that it was AI, answering it when he wasn't actually

1:34:29 Speaker 4: showing what was on the screen. And then Norman the

1:34:32 Speaker 4: nine to eleven revisionist took what he said, which was

1:34:35 Speaker 4: his alleged AI. And then he took a recent presentation

1:34:38 Speaker 4: that I did with him, you know that was seven

1:34:40 Speaker 4: and a half hours long, and a recent talk that

1:34:43 Speaker 4: I did with Norman and this other old Guard soldier,

1:34:45 Speaker 4: and he plugged them all into AI and he basically said, okay, AI, Grock,

1:34:50 Speaker 4: you know who is more believable here? And it just

1:34:53 Speaker 4: you know, roasted Wheelbarger and was like, yeah, yeah, but

1:34:57 Speaker 4: this guy.

1:34:57 Speaker 7: No.

1:34:57 Speaker 4: Ultimately, if we were going to have an inside uh,

1:35:00 Speaker 4: we would need individuals that had access, that had the

1:35:04 Speaker 4: knowledge with all these types of potential tools, with these

1:35:06 Speaker 4: weapons systems, and and you know, ultimately no business being

1:35:12 Speaker 4: on site. They would they would not be able to

1:35:14 Speaker 4: corroborate their story with any type of evidence. They would

1:35:18 Speaker 4: be working with individuals that can't explain why they got

1:35:23 Speaker 4: on site. And and you know, I can also prove

1:35:25 Speaker 4: that his closest teammates and the individuals that were given

1:35:29 Speaker 4: to him there's no record of them.

1:35:32 Speaker 8: So he's one of these people that you think point

1:35:35 Speaker 8: to this being some sort of.

1:35:37 Speaker 4: Inside inside job. If nine to eleven was truly an

1:35:40 Speaker 4: inside job, that we would need individuals. And I believe

1:35:46 Speaker 4: with all my heart that I've been able to uncover

1:35:49 Speaker 4: these individuals and also god like evidence on them that

1:35:54 Speaker 4: that shows why they should be brought into serious questions

1:35:58 Speaker 4: my book.

1:35:59 Speaker 8: They should be pointed in front of Congress to at

1:36:02 Speaker 8: the least I have some contacts in Congress.

1:36:05 Speaker 4: So I would love that, because here's the deal. The

1:36:07 Speaker 4: nine to eleven truth movement.

1:36:10 Speaker 3: Luna like really wants like nine eleven was included in

1:36:13 Speaker 3: her like, uh, the Secrets task Force, so nine to eleven,

1:36:18 Speaker 3: like she wants to get just as much as they

1:36:20 Speaker 3: want the UFO files to classified.

1:36:22 Speaker 8: Like Luna burliston Burchet, the Secret Task Force isn't just

1:36:27 Speaker 8: about UFOs, it's about you know, nine to eleven MLK.

1:36:32 Speaker 8: It's all the conspiracies. Yet it's funny because the CIA

1:36:36 Speaker 8: is the one who coined that term conspiracy theory. It's like,

1:36:41 Speaker 8: so it's not a conspiracy when like they they're to

1:36:46 Speaker 8: classified in UFO files right now.

1:36:48 Speaker 3: It's like they I mean, just to look at it

1:36:50 Speaker 3: as like a.

1:36:52 Speaker 8: Uh not a not a mirror because I don't think

1:36:54 Speaker 8: the UFO topic is a mirror to nine to eleven

1:36:58 Speaker 8: or even any I don't even think that two are

1:37:00 Speaker 8: even close.

1:37:01 Speaker 3: To tide together. A lot of people try to say.

1:37:03 Speaker 8: Like UFOs are They try to tie UFOs to everything, right,

1:37:06 Speaker 8: like jfk assassination. They're like, well, I had to do

1:37:09 Speaker 8: with UFOs because he knew something about UFOs. So the

1:37:14 Speaker 8: UFO thing, it always gets like interjected into every conspiracy

1:37:18 Speaker 8: where it can be they try to talk about it.

1:37:22 Speaker 8: The thing I find interesting about nine to eleven is

1:37:25 Speaker 8: the people the collective conscious around the city and around

1:37:31 Speaker 8: the East Coast. People remember having dreams the weeks leading

1:37:36 Speaker 8: up to and the day before nine to eleven of

1:37:39 Speaker 8: planes hitting the towers, this sense of dread that was

1:37:44 Speaker 8: looming over them.

1:37:47 Speaker 3: But in the.

1:37:48 Speaker 8: Days leading up to nine to eleven, this this wave

1:37:52 Speaker 8: of like this it's like like we talked about nodes

1:37:55 Speaker 8: in a bigger machine, like taking notice of It's like

1:38:00 Speaker 8: when you're in the woods and there's no birds chirping,

1:38:04 Speaker 8: you know that there's a predator coming through. What you're saying, right,

1:38:08 Speaker 8: your brain picks up on those things and the.

1:38:11 Speaker 4: Energy shifts when you're about to go through something. I've

1:38:13 Speaker 4: been robbed at gunpoint twice in my life. I've both circumstances.

1:38:17 Speaker 4: I was like, you can literally you can feel it,

1:38:20 Speaker 4: feel a difference, and I knew it, like, and that's

1:38:23 Speaker 4: the way I kind of compare to what you're saying.

1:38:25 Speaker 8: So that's where I'll draw the comparison, because I think

1:38:27 Speaker 8: the UFO topic does reach out into that field of consciousness,

1:38:31 Speaker 8: and I do think that there's a there was a

1:38:34 Speaker 8: probably a tangible change in the collective consciousness that day.

1:38:39 Speaker 3: I can't which could most certainly be.

1:38:42 Speaker 8: Measured, I would assume and through the random number generation.

1:38:49 Speaker 8: And there there are many people have already talked about it,

1:38:54 Speaker 8: but I want to I don't want to go too

1:38:56 Speaker 8: off on a tangent. I just want to say that

1:38:58 Speaker 8: I think there was this sense of dread in people.

1:39:02 Speaker 8: And I think people anytime there's a massive loss of life,

1:39:10 Speaker 8: I think that whatever happens to us when we die,

1:39:18 Speaker 8: I don't know, like when there's that massive loss of

1:39:20 Speaker 8: life and there is dirty tactics involved, I think it

1:39:24 Speaker 8: stains the very fabric of reality and causes some some

1:39:29 Speaker 8: like cursed echo like.

1:39:32 Speaker 3: You see it.

1:39:32 Speaker 8: We've seen it in other places and it seems like

1:39:35 Speaker 8: that happened on nine to eleven. There's energy, right, And

1:39:39 Speaker 8: I want to go too into the wu, but I

1:39:42 Speaker 8: do want to say that, like, I do think there

1:39:44 Speaker 8: is something there to that that because we know that

1:39:48 Speaker 8: so many people lost their lives, over three thousand people

1:39:51 Speaker 8: lost their lives on nine to eleven.

1:39:52 Speaker 4: And then the effects from the VOLI they're still being filmed. Yeah,

1:39:56 Speaker 4: and the conflicts that we're all failures in the long term,

1:40:00 Speaker 4: you know, and we look at, you know, how we

1:40:02 Speaker 4: responded in Afghanistan, the region became totally displaced. Yeah so,

1:40:08 Speaker 4: and even Iraq as well. No weapon in maths instruction anywhere.

1:40:11 Speaker 8: It was under a false pretense. We got brought I think,

1:40:15 Speaker 8: and that's what you know. In the second half the

1:40:18 Speaker 8: last hour, we'll get into some of the stuff. I

1:40:20 Speaker 8: do want to now that we've talked about the day

1:40:22 Speaker 8: of nine to eleven, I want to get into some

1:40:24 Speaker 8: of the the why, the why and the the components

1:40:32 Speaker 8: of what came after and why nine to eleven and

1:40:38 Speaker 8: was potentially a false flag type of event.

1:40:41 Speaker 3: We'll do that when we come back.

1:40:43 Speaker 8: So far, this has been so super super great, I do.

1:40:46 Speaker 8: We're just gonna pay. We gotta pay the bills. Take

1:40:48 Speaker 8: five and we'll be right back.

1:40:50 Speaker 3: Thank you so much.

1:41:01 Speaker 5: It's going to make the statement.

1:41:04 Speaker 9: Good afternoon. First of all, I'd like to just offer

1:41:08 Speaker 9: up the fact that the support that in the working

1:41:13 Speaker 9: relationships that been established between all agencies and all support

1:41:17 Speaker 9: organizations continues to impress all of us. And this is

1:41:21 Speaker 9: certainly a team effort, and everybody's responding in absolutely superb manner.

1:41:26 Speaker 9: The military continues to support all the agencies, primarily in

1:41:30 Speaker 9: several functions. First of all, I'm providing a command and

1:41:33 Speaker 9: control cell that dovetails into all the other command and

1:41:36 Speaker 9: control structures so that we can understand each other and

1:41:40 Speaker 9: make sure that where the support is needed.

1:41:41 Speaker 4: We can meet that requirement.

1:41:44 Speaker 9: We're doing some limited security inside and outside of the

1:41:47 Speaker 9: Pentagon in addition to what is normally here, I'm also

1:41:51 Speaker 9: providing light labor organizations so that they can do the

1:41:55 Speaker 9: hefting and toating that has to be done, and that

1:41:58 Speaker 9: encludes debris from inside building and some remains. We also

1:42:04 Speaker 9: have a technical engineer company here that is working alongside there.

1:42:08 Speaker 9: We search some rescues day to day. My numbers range

1:42:12 Speaker 9: anywhere from five hundred to seven hundred, depending on what's

1:42:15 Speaker 9: going on. Bottom line, soldiers are doing a great job,

1:42:19 Speaker 9: and they're meeting and exceeding all the requirements that we're

1:42:22 Speaker 9: placing on them, and they continue to support everything that

1:42:26 Speaker 9: we ask them to do and they're doing a great job.

1:42:30 Speaker 9: Thank you.