Alien Manipulation & Deep State Deceit (Ft. Veteran & Author Michael- M.D Selig)

0:15 Speaker 1: Welcome back to total disclosure. Everybody. I am Tie and

0:20 Speaker 1: I'm your host today. Are you ready to peel back

0:25 Speaker 1: the layers of reality with me? The kind of most

0:28 Speaker 1: people would rather not suit. Our guest today is a

0:31 Speaker 1: man there's not only written about the shadows walked through

0:34 Speaker 1: the MD ceilings, best selling author, filmmaker, and the creative

0:38 Speaker 1: face behind Hush, a psychological thriller that dives deep into

0:42 Speaker 1: the alien manipulation, government deceit, and the invisible machinery that

0:48 Speaker 1: shapes our world. Hush isn't just fiction. It's a mirror

0:51 Speaker 1: one that reflects the paranoia, the secrecy, and control mechanisms

0:55 Speaker 1: that many believe aren't just the stuff of fiction, but

0:59 Speaker 1: the back bone of our modern world, from COVID experiments

1:03 Speaker 1: and historical cover ups to the possibility that we may

1:07 Speaker 1: be the subjects of a grand, ongoing deception. Today we're

1:12 Speaker 1: going to ask where does the fiction end, where does

1:16 Speaker 1: reality start? And where is the truth? I'm Ty Roberts

1:21 Speaker 1: again and you're about to enter the story behind the story.

1:25 Speaker 1: Let's welcome MD Sealy. All right, well, I'm super happy

1:41 Speaker 1: to have you, am I saying I didn't that was

1:43 Speaker 1: one of the things I forgot to ask you behind

1:45 Speaker 1: the stage? Am I saying that?

1:46 Speaker 2: Right?

1:46 Speaker 1: MD?

1:47 Speaker 2: Selig, you are It's perfect tie, You're awesome and I'm

1:51 Speaker 2: honored to be here. So this is really fun.

1:54 Speaker 1: Usually I butcher people. I'm like, so, D, what does

2:00 Speaker 1: that stand for? Michael?

2:01 Speaker 2: So for just for Michael David, Michael David.

2:04 Speaker 1: I really like that? Is that? Is that? Like the

2:08 Speaker 1: is that your author writing name?

2:10 Speaker 2: You know, I'm just over time, like doing movies and

2:12 Speaker 2: everything else. There's just so many Michaels in the world.

2:15 Speaker 2: It's like, Okay, am I gonna go by m cea League?

2:18 Speaker 2: Like what what can I do just a tiny bit

2:21 Speaker 2: with my name to kind of make it a little

2:22 Speaker 2: bit unique? So I thought, well, what if I just

2:24 Speaker 2: try m D C League and I That was many

2:26 Speaker 2: years ago, and you know, I'm I'm fine with Michael,

2:30 Speaker 2: Mike m D Like whatever works I in the moment.

2:33 Speaker 2: People change it a lot of times on set, everyone's

2:35 Speaker 2: yelling m D if they're if they're, you know, need

2:37 Speaker 2: me for something. Some people still say Michael and I

2:41 Speaker 2: it just doesn't matter to me at this point in

2:43 Speaker 2: my life. I'm like, if it's roughly a nice name,

2:46 Speaker 2: I'm good with it, I'll probably respond.

2:49 Speaker 1: Right right right, I like it. I like it well,

2:52 Speaker 1: so obviously, you know, here on the show, I get

2:57 Speaker 1: into a lot about you know, so I get into UFOs, paranormal,

3:05 Speaker 1: you know, pretty much a lot of the existential questions

3:08 Speaker 1: that I've always had, uh, you know, since I was

3:11 Speaker 1: a kid, and and I think most people have. But

3:14 Speaker 1: you know, I came from the world of Hollywood. I

3:18 Speaker 1: came from I you know, went to film school. I

3:21 Speaker 1: thought that that was going to be who I became, was,

3:25 Speaker 1: you know, just someone in Hollywood and hopefully would end

3:29 Speaker 1: up directing films and uh potentially writing, and I mean it.

3:34 Speaker 1: It didn't work out the exact way that I would

3:38 Speaker 1: the way I thought, but I'm very very happy with

3:42 Speaker 1: where I landed and what the trajectory trajectory is. So

3:48 Speaker 1: what with that being said, can you give us a

3:52 Speaker 1: little bit about who you are before we get into

3:55 Speaker 1: uh specifically hush and and what you know, what the

3:59 Speaker 1: themes are and what the story means.

4:02 Speaker 2: Sure, you bet, so, I'll give you a kind of

4:05 Speaker 2: the reader's digest version. I came out of the University

4:07 Speaker 2: of Arkansas with a history degree and then I went

4:10 Speaker 2: right into flight training for the Marines, which means I

4:13 Speaker 2: go through Navy flight training. All Marines go through Navy.

4:16 Speaker 2: So I went to Pensacola, Florida and did the kind

4:19 Speaker 2: of you know, the very first top gun where you

4:21 Speaker 2: see Tom Cruise going through stuff. So I got to

4:24 Speaker 2: do all that fun stuff and then I was selected

4:26 Speaker 2: for jets. And then at that point I went to Beville, Texas.

4:32 Speaker 2: Of all places, I think it's now a state prison,

4:34 Speaker 2: but it's basically just imagine flat land forever, so that

4:38 Speaker 2: if we crash, we don't kill anybody. We might hit

4:40 Speaker 2: a cow or something, but it's just there's just it's

4:44 Speaker 2: endless fields everywhere around the base. And that's where you

4:46 Speaker 2: go through your training to fly to go out to

4:51 Speaker 2: the carrier, because Navy flight training is all about if

4:54 Speaker 2: you're a jet pilot, that is, you have to be

4:57 Speaker 2: able to land on the carrier or you're going to

4:59 Speaker 2: be taking out of flight training. So it's all a

5:02 Speaker 2: build up. So I flew for those who were aviation buffs.

5:06 Speaker 2: I flew the T two Buckeye as my intermediate jet trainer,

5:09 Speaker 2: and then my advanced jet trainer was the A Force Skyhawk,

5:12 Speaker 2: which is what the Blue Angels used to fly just

5:14 Speaker 2: before the two seat F eighteens. Then I departed there,

5:19 Speaker 2: and yeah, some really great experience. It's fun experiences. If

5:24 Speaker 2: people want to know what the Afour Skyhawk looks like,

5:26 Speaker 2: they can go to MDC League dot com and the

5:28 Speaker 2: very front page is actually me sitting in front of

5:31 Speaker 2: the jet on one of my final flights in front

5:33 Speaker 2: of an Afour Skyhawks. That's kind of fun. But I

5:37 Speaker 2: got out of there and was selected to fly A

5:39 Speaker 2: six Intruders, which is an all weather attack jet. I

5:43 Speaker 2: went with my Squadron two Desert Storm in nineteen ninety

5:46 Speaker 2: one and flew combat missions for forty three days. That

5:49 Speaker 2: was the entire war, and for those who don't remember

5:53 Speaker 2: Operation Desert Storm, it's the first time we went into Iraq.

5:56 Speaker 2: It was roughly two thousand sorties per twenty four hours,

6:01 Speaker 2: so imagine B fifty two's all kinds of attack jets, fighters,

6:05 Speaker 2: every kind of ground I shouldn't say ground, more ground

6:10 Speaker 2: oriented like Apache helica, every kind of airship. Two thousand

6:14 Speaker 2: sorties per twenty four hours for forty three days. So

6:18 Speaker 2: that was a wild experience to be in combat. And

6:21 Speaker 2: the other thing I'll say about that is I was

6:23 Speaker 2: also at that time. Your billets within your squadron change

6:27 Speaker 2: over time, but at that point in time, I was

6:30 Speaker 2: the intelligence officer for my squadron, and I was reading

6:33 Speaker 2: top secret briefs as the war is occurring. So I'm

6:37 Speaker 2: flying missions, reading what top secret materials are coming into

6:41 Speaker 2: our squadron, which is from all over the world. Some

6:43 Speaker 2: are directed right for our squadron to learn certain things

6:46 Speaker 2: and to you know, disseminate information, but a lot of

6:50 Speaker 2: it is just general top secret materials that are coming

6:53 Speaker 2: through going to other squadrons. So I'm reading those and

6:58 Speaker 2: then I'm after each flight or after each mission in combat,

7:03 Speaker 2: I'm then going to the mess hall on the base,

7:06 Speaker 2: which was on the southern tip of Bahrain, and it's

7:09 Speaker 2: a huge base full of NATO. Every kind of NATO

7:12 Speaker 2: jet is there, and not just jets, but a massive base.

7:17 Speaker 2: Let's put it that Expeditionary Airfield in nineteen ninety one.

7:20 Speaker 2: It was aircraft from all over. And so I'm going

7:23 Speaker 2: into the mess hall, which is just just imagine a

7:25 Speaker 2: huge Costco size warehouse type thing, and it's just got

7:31 Speaker 2: one gigantic CNN TV right on the front, you know,

7:34 Speaker 2: so we're all watching CNN, and I'm just going, Wow,

7:37 Speaker 2: this is the third element that I'm experiencing here because

7:41 Speaker 2: I'm flying combat missions and I know what I'm attacking.

7:46 Speaker 2: I'm watching CNN and they're saying, well, this is kind

7:48 Speaker 2: of going on here, but that wasn't what I was

7:50 Speaker 2: experiencing so much. And I'm reading the top secret stuff

7:54 Speaker 2: and I'm I'm just getting a sense like, Wow, this

7:57 Speaker 2: is all three completely different you and I. I'm sure

8:00 Speaker 2: we'll circle back to that. But I left the military

8:03 Speaker 2: after eight years. That's one tour for a pilot. Because

8:06 Speaker 2: they spend a lot of money on you. You have to

8:07 Speaker 2: stay in for eight years. It's not a quick three

8:09 Speaker 2: year tour. So I got out. I went right into

8:13 Speaker 2: LA where I went into film and television. I wrote,

8:15 Speaker 2: I've been writing screenplays forever, so I'm a storyteller at heart.

8:19 Speaker 2: That's my most favorite thing is story. And had a

8:23 Speaker 2: show on Netflix and Showtime called Southern Justice. I have

8:27 Speaker 2: a current sci fi pilot on Amazon Prime called The

8:30 Speaker 2: gun Runner Billy Kane, And that's kind of how I

8:35 Speaker 2: came to writing the book. Is I just thought, as

8:37 Speaker 2: I started to get more behind the alien curtain, I realized, Wow,

8:40 Speaker 2: there's a lot for me to hear, to delve into.

8:44 Speaker 2: So three years later, you're now seeing Hush.

8:48 Speaker 1: And I love that name. Now for me, it invokes

8:52 Speaker 1: for me, it invokes I'm not sure sure if you're

8:56 Speaker 1: familiar with the Batman story Hush, but it invokes this

9:01 Speaker 1: like this, this feeling. And that's why when I UH,

9:06 Speaker 1: when I when I read, when I read what I

9:08 Speaker 1: could uh and lead up to this, UH, I was

9:11 Speaker 1: pretty enthralled with how immersive the storytelling began, or or

9:17 Speaker 1: or how it hooked me right from the beginning. And

9:21 Speaker 1: I think what comes across, at least UH from what

9:25 Speaker 1: I was able to read, is the your heart comes

9:28 Speaker 1: through the the words, and I could I feel, I

9:31 Speaker 1: felt everything. So again you said you're you were always

9:37 Speaker 1: a storyteller? It did? Did the military inform your writing?

9:44 Speaker 1: Or did it? Does it? Did it supplement? Did you

9:46 Speaker 1: ever see anything while you were in the air, while

9:50 Speaker 1: you were in combat missions? Did anything ever pop out

9:53 Speaker 1: at you and and lead you down this path? Or

9:56 Speaker 1: was it just something that you came across?

10:00 Speaker 2: So if your question is did it lead me toward

10:04 Speaker 2: the alien question or the kind of other actuality that

10:09 Speaker 2: I thought was occurring? The answer is yes. If you're

10:14 Speaker 2: asking about is that what makes you write a book?

10:18 Speaker 2: I think for all storytellers, and I come from a

10:21 Speaker 2: background of writing screenplays, so it's kind of show, don't

10:24 Speaker 2: tell in a screenplay, but in any story. My opinion,

10:29 Speaker 2: if you want to be you know, if you're really

10:31 Speaker 2: committed to your writing, is everything that you do in

10:35 Speaker 2: your life, if you learn to fly, or if you

10:37 Speaker 2: learn to juggle or whatever, that's going to inform your writing.

10:42 Speaker 2: And for me, I'm an intense hardcore researcher because I

10:48 Speaker 2: have to. It doesn't matter whether I'm writing a love

10:51 Speaker 2: story or a story about aliens or in this case,

10:55 Speaker 2: Hush is about your covert history from about the forties forwards.

10:58 Speaker 2: So it's all of the events like Roswell that I

11:02 Speaker 2: never really believed happened, but I started getting into them

11:05 Speaker 2: and then I started to realize, oh my goodness, I've

11:07 Speaker 2: been hoodwinked. I have been deceived for my entire lifetime.

11:12 Speaker 2: So as that kind of I call it the five

11:16 Speaker 2: stages a grief as you're going through it, right because

11:20 Speaker 2: you realize, wow, this stings. Why am I mad? I'm

11:23 Speaker 2: mad because I've been deceived well and then you go

11:28 Speaker 2: through the acknowledgment, and then you go through I mean,

11:31 Speaker 2: it's just literally the five stages of grief. And anybody

11:33 Speaker 2: who's I think like you, Tyler, anybody who is come

11:38 Speaker 2: to an AHA moment where you're like, dang, I just

11:42 Speaker 2: never believed until now about that particular thing. You kind

11:46 Speaker 2: of go through it, you just are like, how could

11:48 Speaker 2: I have not you know, how could I have not known?

11:51 Speaker 1: Yeah? And some people like for some people like me,

11:56 Speaker 1: we have an experience that shatters that reality in an instant, right,

12:06 Speaker 1: So for any experience er out there. Uh. And and

12:10 Speaker 1: you know, for people who haven't seen a UFO or

12:14 Speaker 1: something paranormal like in their actual daily life and their

12:18 Speaker 1: operating and you're operating on you know, the stories that

12:24 Speaker 1: that have been told, the the lore and the history.

12:28 Speaker 1: I give a lot of respect to people like that

12:30 Speaker 1: who haven't seen something and are operating on this like this.

12:35 Speaker 1: I I know, because so many people that I consider

12:40 Speaker 1: trustworthy are saying that there's something. It's it's very easy

12:45 Speaker 1: for me, having seen what I've seen, to to believe

12:50 Speaker 1: there's something out there, because you know, it it was

12:55 Speaker 1: right above me. It was pretty hard.

12:56 Speaker 2: Yeah, please please do tell because I love the readers

12:59 Speaker 2: that I just version. There's so many hosts that I

13:02 Speaker 2: speak with that I can't you know, I can't know

13:05 Speaker 2: everybody's past. So give me, yeah, give me if you

13:08 Speaker 2: don't mind. Just the quick readers, I just version of

13:09 Speaker 2: your big of a big thing that really made an

13:12 Speaker 2: adjustment for you in your life.

13:14 Speaker 1: All right, So this is to preface this story. I

13:19 Speaker 1: really do want to talk about you, of course, sure,

13:22 Speaker 1: but I think it really does inform I do come

13:25 Speaker 1: from a military family. I grew up in the nine

13:28 Speaker 1: to eleven era, right, I'm thirty two. I grew up

13:31 Speaker 1: right next to a Hansom Air Force Base, and so

13:36 Speaker 1: I knew what flew and what didn't fly. I was

13:40 Speaker 1: very familiar with aviation. It was something I was very

13:44 Speaker 1: interested in as well. And right up here you'll see

13:48 Speaker 1: my mother, her little urn and her she plays a

13:52 Speaker 1: big story, a big part in my story. Because so

13:56 Speaker 1: the only reason I was home it was, I don't know,

14:00 Speaker 1: it is a weekday school, she asked me. She did

14:04 Speaker 1: this thing every once in a while where she would

14:06 Speaker 1: be like, hey, you want to stay home from school?

14:09 Speaker 1: Because she was a mom. She was at home mom,

14:11 Speaker 1: and she just wanted someone to hang out with. Yeah,

14:16 Speaker 1: I drew the good straw that day, and she asked me, Hey,

14:20 Speaker 1: do you want to stay home? And of course I

14:22 Speaker 1: said yes, And I remember, I remember this so vividly.

14:26 Speaker 1: Remember I remember watching Regis and Kelly. Regis and Kelly

14:31 Speaker 1: was on every single day at nine a m. Eastern.

14:34 Speaker 2: That's awesome. It's like a moment in your life where

14:37 Speaker 2: Regis and Kelly suddenly has meaning.

14:40 Speaker 1: Yes. Absolutely, That's why I was so offended when Michael

14:44 Speaker 1: Strang became the PM. I'm just kidding. But so she

14:51 Speaker 1: asked me to stay home. And this is remember this

14:53 Speaker 1: is before all this stuff, the technology, you know, So

14:58 Speaker 1: I had we had this thing. I ended up, you know,

15:01 Speaker 1: I was. I got bored. So I was outside. I

15:04 Speaker 1: was waiting for the kids to get home from school.

15:07 Speaker 1: There was nobody around to hang out with, to play with,

15:10 Speaker 1: so I was. I had a tennis ball and we

15:12 Speaker 1: had a very steep roof, so very inclined. So I

15:17 Speaker 1: would throw a tennis ball up to the top and

15:20 Speaker 1: let it roll hit the gutter and it would pop

15:22 Speaker 1: off the gutter and then it was kind of like

15:25 Speaker 1: a way you could I had a very long house

15:27 Speaker 1: so you could like throw it and play catch with

15:29 Speaker 1: yourself fun. I'm mid throw and I'm about eleven years old.

15:34 Speaker 1: I don't really have much like again, there's no there's

15:39 Speaker 1: not too many walls that have been built up yet.

15:42 Speaker 1: Right mid throw, I'm looking up because I'm throwing, so

15:47 Speaker 1: I'm looking. I'm my aim is up and mid throw,

15:53 Speaker 1: out of nowhere silently this gun metal gray. And I

15:58 Speaker 1: am colorblind, so it was either gun metal gray or

16:02 Speaker 1: it was a very dark color that you know, had

16:07 Speaker 1: a metallicy matt feel to it, tree top level, oscillating

16:17 Speaker 1: but also moving forward at a snail's pace. So came

16:21 Speaker 1: It came from behind me, and I'm looking up at

16:26 Speaker 1: it now right and it's oscillating and moving slowly over

16:31 Speaker 1: my house, going east to west, so it's it's round

16:38 Speaker 1: and by all I've at that point, I had never

16:43 Speaker 1: seen anything like this. If there was, if there was

16:47 Speaker 1: words on this thing, I would have been able to

16:48 Speaker 1: make them out.

16:49 Speaker 2: That's how close.

16:52 Speaker 1: No sound, no anything, just just my internal thoughts playing

17:02 Speaker 1: like very loudly, like what is this? What am I seeing?

17:07 Speaker 1: And then it gets to the point where it comes

17:10 Speaker 1: over my house and I'm locked in on this thing like,

17:14 Speaker 1: and I chase it. I run. My house is long

17:18 Speaker 1: and my yard was long as well, so I had

17:20 Speaker 1: to run around. So if this is the house, I

17:24 Speaker 1: had to run around to get to the back right.

17:28 Speaker 1: Rural town, rural, rural okay, okay, Bill Rickham, Massachusetts for

17:32 Speaker 1: anyone who. Okay, suburb of Boston, about thirty five minutes

17:37 Speaker 1: away from Boston. And uh but very very like very

17:43 Speaker 1: rural and it's its nature.

17:45 Speaker 2: Okay. Cool.

17:46 Speaker 1: So this thing is making no noise. I chase it

17:50 Speaker 1: behind the house and by the time I get to

17:54 Speaker 1: the to the backyard, it's gone. Now I don't know.

17:58 Speaker 1: I can't say for sure whether it took off or

18:02 Speaker 1: it just was out of my sight at that point.

18:05 Speaker 1: But then I run all the way around the house.

18:08 Speaker 1: I'm looking, and I run into the house and I

18:11 Speaker 1: tell my mom, Mom, and she's like, so instead of

18:17 Speaker 1: telling me I saw a balloon or I didn't see

18:19 Speaker 1: anything at all, she didn't force a worldview on me.

18:23 Speaker 1: She said, son, you saw a UFO And I was like,

18:26 Speaker 1: what the fuck is the UFO? What what is that?

18:29 Speaker 2: And uh, Well, she.

18:31 Speaker 1: Brought me to the library and I remember being handed

18:34 Speaker 1: Whitley Streeber's communion and from from there, Yeah, from the

18:39 Speaker 1: from there it was often I was always the existential one.

18:43 Speaker 2: And what was your impression of how she knew that

18:47 Speaker 2: you saw a UFO? Did she look out the kitchen window?

18:50 Speaker 2: She was inside the house, so how did how did

18:52 Speaker 2: she just confirm it so quickly? Did she ever tell

18:55 Speaker 2: you that you had missing time?

18:56 Speaker 1: And like that's another thing?

18:59 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I'm just wondering if if there was, if

19:03 Speaker 3: there was, did she give you a hint, like, sweetheart,

19:07 Speaker 3: this is the first time you told me this, and

19:10 Speaker 3: it's been two hours since you've been out playing ball

19:12 Speaker 3: instead of three minutes.

19:14 Speaker 2: Right, So I was just wondering if any.

19:16 Speaker 1: Of that there is. There is an element there is,

19:22 Speaker 1: and it's something I have I people have listened to

19:26 Speaker 1: the show. I've heard me tell this story. I have

19:29 Speaker 1: never told this part. So I can't remember anything mm

19:35 Speaker 1: hmm from the event occurring to two. It's hard to

19:44 Speaker 1: tell because I don't know if it's missing time. I

19:47 Speaker 1: just I remember the event. I remember read Just and Kelly,

19:51 Speaker 1: I remember being asked to stay home, but I don't

19:54 Speaker 1: remember anything else.

19:56 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know you're you're you're in a perfect

19:59 Speaker 2: situation that if you ever feel comfortable, you can go

20:03 Speaker 2: to you know, VET, a couple of hypnotherapists, right, and

20:08 Speaker 2: you can do HQQT or however you say at h

20:11 Speaker 2: how do you say that the HQQT. Yeah, the regression. Yeah,

20:16 Speaker 2: and you know, you can take a little journey and

20:19 Speaker 2: see if there's anything there for you, because then you

20:21 Speaker 2: can really get some information and you might find some

20:23 Speaker 2: interesting stuff with your mom as well.

20:25 Speaker 1: Well, here's I want to hear something else. So this

20:28 Speaker 1: is another crazy thing. So I had strayed very far

20:33 Speaker 1: from the path I told you before. I was always

20:38 Speaker 1: so in high school, in middle school, I was always

20:41 Speaker 1: very existential. I was always asking, I was always asking

20:44 Speaker 1: the questions of you know, because I graduated in twenty eleven.

20:48 Speaker 1: The year was the world was supposed to end the

20:51 Speaker 1: year after I graduated, So you know we're all talking

20:56 Speaker 1: about that.

20:57 Speaker 2: We're all sure.

20:58 Speaker 1: I had two friends, Jesse and Eric, that really like

21:02 Speaker 1: they they really introduced me to a lot of like

21:07 Speaker 1: the the more interesting stuff, like the real real stuff,

21:12 Speaker 1: like the actual Mayan long form calendar, long count calendar. Yeah,

21:16 Speaker 1: and they they put pieces to me death together for me.

21:19 Speaker 1: But I was always very existential. I was always the

21:22 Speaker 1: kid who's smoking a joint at the party in the corner,

21:25 Speaker 1: talking about you know, who are we? Why are we here?

21:30 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, questions.

21:31 Speaker 1: So but I end up straying very far from my path.

21:35 Speaker 1: I I want to go to film school. I get

21:39 Speaker 1: really heavy into drinking. I end up working at a

21:48 Speaker 1: place with people that I hate. I hate everything I'm doing.

21:52 Speaker 1: And then and then twenty twenty rolls around and my

21:56 Speaker 1: mom's diagnosed with breast cancer, and wow, she I have

22:01 Speaker 1: to I'm now forced to come home. I'm forced I

22:06 Speaker 1: and the world was on pause, and I don't want

22:09 Speaker 1: to make this all about me, but we're you know.

22:13 Speaker 1: But I think it does inform why I do this,

22:17 Speaker 1: because I was in So I'm in the room. I'm

22:20 Speaker 1: fast forwarding a little bit. But so twenty twenty she became,

22:23 Speaker 1: she's diagnosed with breast cancer. By twenty twenty one, she's dead.

22:28 Speaker 2: Her death date, I'm sorry to hear that. I know

22:31 Speaker 2: that was tough.

22:32 Speaker 1: Yeah, thank thank you. It's her death date is four

22:37 Speaker 1: three two one. And I only say that because I

22:43 Speaker 1: it was almost like her last way of pushing me

22:47 Speaker 1: back on the path that I needed to be on

22:51 Speaker 1: because in the room. I was in the room when

22:54 Speaker 1: she passed away, and I I'll skip a little bit

22:58 Speaker 1: of the story because I think I've a million times here.

23:02 Speaker 1: I saw an orb in the room, and I saw

23:04 Speaker 1: it leave the room, and then when I looked back,

23:06 Speaker 1: my mom was gone. You know, when someone's alive, when

23:09 Speaker 1: someone's soul is with them, And I look up, I

23:16 Speaker 1: see this thing cross my field of vision, and by

23:19 Speaker 1: the time I look back at her, she's no longer there,

23:23 Speaker 1: and that moment, total disclosure is born. And I haven't

23:29 Speaker 1: stopped since. So it was almost like her last way

23:31 Speaker 1: of like saying, you know what you you found podcasting,

23:36 Speaker 1: you love it, You're sober, you've been sober, You're you're

23:40 Speaker 1: you're happy, You're just not doing exactly the right thing.

23:43 Speaker 2: Here's a push that's so cool. And and the reality is,

23:48 Speaker 2: you know, she's still here with you. I mean, we're

23:50 Speaker 2: just energy, We're loved. Before we come into this little avatar,

23:54 Speaker 2: we have our little passage here in the avatar. The

23:56 Speaker 2: avatar dies, but we don't. So she's still in room.

24:00 Speaker 2: You know, she's everything with you. She was the orb,

24:03 Speaker 2: but she's also.

24:06 Speaker 1: You know, in my opinion, Stephen Bato.

24:10 Speaker 2: Yeah, those moments are just so critical for your life

24:14 Speaker 2: to realize, like, you know, I needed to step up,

24:18 Speaker 2: and she was calling me on the carpet to say, hey,

24:21 Speaker 2: you're the one. You have all this juice and you

24:23 Speaker 2: have everything you need to do this and really help

24:26 Speaker 2: you know, Sophia or some people call it gaya evolve

24:31 Speaker 2: and and your voice needs to be out there. So

24:33 Speaker 2: it was pretty That's a pretty cool experience, I think.

24:35 Speaker 2: And now you can have some fun doing some regression

24:40 Speaker 2: therapy and see if you get to you can certainly

24:42 Speaker 2: speak to her. I know that for sure, because she's

24:45 Speaker 2: available to you at all time. Yeah, and then also

24:48 Speaker 2: in the regression therapy, you may find like, holy cow,

24:51 Speaker 2: I wasn't just running around the house. I was on

24:53 Speaker 2: a ship. You may find wild that you may not.

24:57 Speaker 2: But a lot of times, like all the thousands of

25:01 Speaker 2: accounts that I've feels like that are out there.

25:04 Speaker 1: You just.

25:06 Speaker 2: There may be something there for you. So that'd be

25:07 Speaker 2: kind of fun if you ever decided to do that. Well.

25:09 Speaker 1: Yeah, and my mom, my mom was My mom was awesome.

25:13 Speaker 1: She and and for anyone who's a fan of like

25:17 Speaker 1: uh little Little if every shot that I've ever every

25:24 Speaker 1: camera shot, She'll always be in it somewhere, right, So

25:29 Speaker 1: it's this is a little easter egg. I don't think

25:31 Speaker 1: I've ever actually said it, but every shot that the

25:34 Speaker 1: podcast has ever had, she's in it. So she's in

25:38 Speaker 1: it somewhere, and she might be hidden like that, or

25:42 Speaker 1: she might be Do I have another angle? Oh no,

25:46 Speaker 1: that angle doesn't show it. But she's up there. So

25:49 Speaker 1: for me, she's she's she is what she created, this

25:53 Speaker 1: show that she put, she sent me back down the

25:57 Speaker 1: path of searching for truth, and that led me to

26:02 Speaker 1: being in the right spot as long as I, too

26:04 Speaker 1: chose to do the next right thing. I ended up

26:07 Speaker 1: being in the right place at the right time to

26:10 Speaker 1: allow for someone like Bob Sallas, who was a nuclear

26:14 Speaker 1: nuclear launch controller at Malmstrom for the nineteen sixty seven shutdown.

26:19 Speaker 1: I was able to get him in with Nancy Mace

26:22 Speaker 1: after the hearing in twenty twenty four so he could, finally,

26:26 Speaker 1: after fifty years brief a sitting member of Congress. I've been,

26:32 Speaker 1: you know, I could go. Once you start looking at synchronicity,

26:37 Speaker 1: I have a synchronicity journal because I have so many

26:41 Speaker 1: things happen to me that that are like that that

26:45 Speaker 1: I write them down now and then when you look back,

26:48 Speaker 1: it's like it's telling you a story. It's an overarching message.

26:52 Speaker 1: So that's why I am so immersed in this stuff

26:56 Speaker 1: because I've seen it with my own eyes, I've felt

26:59 Speaker 1: it with my heart, with like every fiber of my being.

27:05 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so great. That makes you the perfect, the perfect.

27:09 Speaker 1: That's why I say I'm really respectful of people who

27:12 Speaker 1: haven't seen things or experience that like I have, because

27:16 Speaker 1: to operate on that kind of faith, yeah, I mean

27:20 Speaker 1: it's got to be hard.

27:23 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean your type of experience. I just can't

27:27 Speaker 2: hear you. Well, you can't hear me right now? Check tests.

27:31 Speaker 2: Are you not hearing me? Can you hear me? Tyler? Hello,

27:38 Speaker 2: I'm hearing me. Are you hearing me? You're hearing me.

27:42 Speaker 2: Tyler is suddenly not hearing me, and he's frozen. So, Tyler,

27:46 Speaker 2: if you can hear me, your your screen froze.

27:50 Speaker 1: I hear a little technical difficulty.

27:54 Speaker 2: Okay, I can hear you again now and you froze

27:57 Speaker 2: for about.

27:58 Speaker 1: Fifteen Can you hear me?

27:59 Speaker 2: Hear you? I can hear you just fine. Yeah, And

28:03 Speaker 2: and my assistant here.

28:04 Speaker 1: Now you're coming through. It's it's definitely on me, it's

28:07 Speaker 1: definitely on my side.

28:12 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're good. You're back in action now

28:20 Speaker 2: just a slight frozen. Know you're good.

28:23 Speaker 1: Right now, You're fine, let me refresh year. Look, my

28:26 Speaker 1: mom was coming to say I.

28:28 Speaker 2: It might have been. Yeah, on my side, everything's working,

28:36 Speaker 2: your your stream is working, so everything seems solid. You're

28:41 Speaker 2: back now. I can see you moving. See you're good.

28:43 Speaker 1: My mom came by and said, hay, you want.

28:49 Speaker 2: To just have a little fun. Yeah.

28:51 Speaker 1: But so yeah, so when I say that, you know,

28:55 Speaker 1: I've I have tremendous respect for people who are operating

28:58 Speaker 1: without a knowing. I have some tremendous respect for that.

29:03 Speaker 1: I really do. So with that being said, that's my

29:08 Speaker 1: There's a lot more to it. Of course, we could

29:10 Speaker 1: go into it and really like you know, you and

29:12 Speaker 1: I talk about it one day. But getting back to you, So,

29:20 Speaker 1: from what you're saying, well, the genesis of haush it was.

29:23 Speaker 1: Was it born out of just fascination with UFO lore

29:26 Speaker 1: in the government.

29:28 Speaker 2: No, it was more. It was more about I just

29:32 Speaker 2: had a sense that the strings were being pulled from

29:35 Speaker 2: above our government, from above our military, even in nineteen

29:39 Speaker 2: ninety one, I just from the top secret briefs that

29:41 Speaker 2: I was reading, I just thought, there is an entire

29:45 Speaker 2: parallel actuality happening to what my squadron is doing and

29:50 Speaker 2: to what is being reported on the news. There's just

29:52 Speaker 2: something else happening. All I knew at the time is

29:55 Speaker 2: that I had a sense that I wasn't reading or

30:02 Speaker 2: I just had a sense that there had to be

30:04 Speaker 2: something behind the curtain, and so that it kind of

30:07 Speaker 2: kicked off back then. But over the years, certainly just

30:13 Speaker 2: in writing stories and reading about you know, people having

30:16 Speaker 2: alien encounters and this, that and the other, just like yours.

30:20 Speaker 2: Over time you just realize there's just too many events worldwide.

30:23 Speaker 2: And then you start getting the Secret Space program and

30:26 Speaker 2: all the folks who have come back where they've had

30:28 Speaker 2: their mind wipe technology glitching, and they're remembering being off

30:32 Speaker 2: world and they're having the same stories even though they

30:36 Speaker 2: didn't know each other. In the Secret Space programs, they

30:39 Speaker 2: are saying, I was on the same planet as such

30:42 Speaker 2: and so, and I saw that ship as well, and

30:45 Speaker 2: I didn't fly on that ship, but I was on

30:47 Speaker 2: my own ship working for the Reptilians where I'm working

30:50 Speaker 2: for the Nazis, and you're just like, okay, wait a minute,

30:53 Speaker 2: These like Tony Rodrieg's of the World, and you know,

30:58 Speaker 2: Rebecca Rose and on Charles Moyan and just the list

31:01 Speaker 2: goes on and on, Emery Smith, on Guy A TV,

31:04 Speaker 2: David Adair. Once you are reading enough of it and

31:08 Speaker 2: watching it, you can't help but go, all right, I've

31:12 Speaker 2: been hoodwinked. There is clearly another reality happening, and I'm

31:17 Speaker 2: not privy to it. And then you get more upset

31:20 Speaker 2: and you keep you start doing more research because humans

31:23 Speaker 2: don't like to be deceived, right. It's it's that thing

31:27 Speaker 2: that the I believe that the aliens fear is that

31:31 Speaker 2: we have our capabilities, our intent, that we're coming from love,

31:36 Speaker 2: which is an absolutely unstoppable force, and they know we're

31:41 Speaker 2: about to rise within what our capabilities are. And when

31:45 Speaker 2: we do, it's occurring now they are no longer going

31:50 Speaker 2: to be able to exist in this energy. And I

31:52 Speaker 2: believe they're already you know, the cabala is already starting

31:54 Speaker 2: to fade. They're failing, and they're making one last stab

31:58 Speaker 2: to hold control. But I believe that that our time

32:02 Speaker 2: is here, and if you're coming from your heart, You're

32:07 Speaker 2: sensing it. Sophia. So I call the earth Sophia. A

32:11 Speaker 2: lot of people say Gaya, Sofia is just kind of

32:13 Speaker 2: an older name that I've come across so many times.

32:16 Speaker 2: I'm like, well, I'll just call her Sophia because I

32:18 Speaker 2: like that name. It happens to be. Well, yeah, So

32:23 Speaker 2: it's just a time where we're kind of realizing, like, wow,

32:29 Speaker 2: something is occurring here at such a level that we're

32:32 Speaker 2: all kind of feeling it.

32:34 Speaker 1: Right, And you know, I'm right there with you, man,

32:38 Speaker 1: like I really am. I I wanted I wanted to ask.

32:43 Speaker 1: So you know you brought you brought up something that's

32:47 Speaker 1: been really on my mind a lot less lately. Uh,

32:51 Speaker 1: this fascination. Uh. Now, you've probably heard the stories of

32:56 Speaker 1: you know, the Georgia Domski's right, the the uh what's

33:03 Speaker 1: the guy? What was the other one? Billy Meyer? And

33:09 Speaker 1: this like this Nordic, blonde haired, blue eyed. It even

33:15 Speaker 1: shows up in like Travis Walton's story, the Travis Walton story.

33:20 Speaker 1: It shows up in so many of these like quote

33:23 Speaker 1: unquote abductions, and it's it's got me thinking, why why

33:30 Speaker 1: were the Nazis so obsessed with that archetype, the blonde hair,

33:35 Speaker 1: the blue eyes. Were they trying to emulate something? And

33:40 Speaker 1: is that why they wanted to eradicate the earth of

33:45 Speaker 1: anything else aside from that? Maybe? You know? So were

33:50 Speaker 1: they privy to something that that we didn't We don't

33:54 Speaker 1: know like what because why this question was written down

33:59 Speaker 1: some kind of but why why does because then we

34:07 Speaker 1: talk about guys like Jeffrey Epstein and now Jeffrey Epstein, Uh,

34:11 Speaker 1: Galline Maxwell, all of her her boys that she had around,

34:16 Speaker 1: they were all Swedish, right, so they were all like

34:20 Speaker 1: blonde hair, blue eyes. And there's one of them that

34:24 Speaker 1: has gone on record and said that you know, when

34:29 Speaker 1: he would shower in the in the facility, uh, he'd

34:32 Speaker 1: oftentime like he'd even come back and the hair at

34:35 Speaker 1: the in the drain would be gone. And we've we've

34:39 Speaker 1: heard other stories about like the Epstein and what he

34:44 Speaker 1: was actually interested in. And you know, I think what

34:49 Speaker 1: the UFO community is afraid to admit is the same

34:53 Speaker 1: people that are running the Epstein's and ditties and you

34:56 Speaker 1: know honeypots of the world to entrap the most powerful

35:00 Speaker 1: people are also the same people that are holding this

35:03 Speaker 1: tech hostage from us and you know our cent I

35:08 Speaker 1: think that's the big secret, right.

35:10 Speaker 2: Yes, And well that's certainly that's certainly part of it,

35:13 Speaker 2: for sure. It's I mean, that's obviously that's an element

35:17 Speaker 2: of control because if they can blackmail people who are

35:21 Speaker 2: famous into kind of doing their bidding, then that that

35:25 Speaker 2: certainly helps their control, right absolutely. If your question is

35:31 Speaker 2: about what, because you were starting to go like, what

35:35 Speaker 2: is your kind of assessment of the blonde haired, blue

35:40 Speaker 2: eyed Nazis?

35:41 Speaker 1: Is that like, why why do you think they were

35:43 Speaker 1: so fascinated with that? Why? Why did they want Why

35:48 Speaker 1: do you think that the Nazis were so obsessed with

35:52 Speaker 1: you know, these magical relics, but also this blonde hair,

35:59 Speaker 1: blue eyes alpha species or alpha race.

36:04 Speaker 2: If you will, So, I think so I'll answer that

36:07 Speaker 2: in kind of two directions. So one is you mentioned

36:11 Speaker 2: why are the Nazis so obsessed with relics? So let

36:14 Speaker 2: me start with that one, and then I'll go to

36:16 Speaker 2: the blonde hair, blue eyed thing. So my information tells

36:21 Speaker 2: me that in roughly nineteen thirty eight, the Nazis were

36:27 Speaker 2: kind of aware like, oh my god, we're kicking this

36:30 Speaker 2: thing off and there's no way we can win this.

36:33 Speaker 2: We can. They certainly had the hutspot to kick it off,

36:37 Speaker 2: but I think on many levels they knew they's just

36:39 Speaker 2: not a big enough country. There's just not enough. You know,

36:42 Speaker 2: You've got America that's about to enter the war, You've

36:45 Speaker 2: got Russia that's going to enter the war. I mean,

36:48 Speaker 2: this can't end well for such a tiny country, even

36:51 Speaker 2: though they were so amazing with their military might in

36:55 Speaker 2: what they did. But I think they had a sense

36:59 Speaker 2: from my research that Okay, this is not so great.

37:03 Speaker 2: What else can we do? So what they start doing.

37:06 Speaker 2: Mainly it's Hemmler and Todd who are at the top

37:09 Speaker 2: of the Nazi hierarchy, and they are holding essentially seances

37:16 Speaker 2: to kind of bring in the devil, to see if

37:19 Speaker 2: the devil will help out the Nazis. What appears to

37:22 Speaker 2: them in nineteen thirty eight, and actually a little bit

37:26 Speaker 2: before nineteen thirty eight is a Draco reptilian. Now, if

37:32 Speaker 2: you're trying to conjure the devil and you don't know

37:34 Speaker 2: anything about Draco reptilians or anything else, and you suddenly

37:37 Speaker 2: have a nine to fifteen foot reptilian, telepathic, psychotic looking

37:44 Speaker 2: monster standing over you, you might, and they don't smell good.

37:48 Speaker 2: According to everything I've researched, there are really rough smelling

37:52 Speaker 2: like sewage that I'm assuming that you're going to think

37:55 Speaker 2: I've just met the devil, and the devil is now

37:58 Speaker 2: speaking to you about this. You have a seance. A reptilian,

38:04 Speaker 2: a draco reptilian appears looking down at you and telepathically

38:11 Speaker 2: has you in I mean, they're neurally engaging you. So

38:17 Speaker 2: they have neural engagement capability and they basically lock you up.

38:21 Speaker 2: So you're Hemmler at the top of the Nazi pyramid

38:25 Speaker 2: right below Hitler. What are you going to do? You're

38:30 Speaker 2: gonna say, yes, sir, whatever you want, Like, wow, what

38:34 Speaker 2: in the heck? Right? So then at that moment, you know,

38:38 Speaker 2: the reptilian essentially says to them, look, you're going to

38:41 Speaker 2: lose the war, but I have some good news for you.

38:44 Speaker 2: There's this base below the ice shelf in Antarctica, and

38:49 Speaker 2: you guys might want to I mean, I know you

38:51 Speaker 2: have off world aims and this is the way to

38:53 Speaker 2: get there, and I've got some technology there for you

38:56 Speaker 2: that will allow you to build some ships. This is

38:58 Speaker 2: in nineteen thirty eight, right before the New schwaben Land expedition.

39:02 Speaker 2: So they're essentially told, you know, if you'll work with us,

39:07 Speaker 2: we have a few demands. We might need a few

39:09 Speaker 2: of your humans, specifically nazis right. But the other thing

39:14 Speaker 2: that occurs during that timeframe, and you can read about

39:17 Speaker 2: this in the Dark Fleet. And I won't go into

39:21 Speaker 2: the details of the Dark Fleet other than to say

39:24 Speaker 2: the author talks about how the reptilians, being that they

39:29 Speaker 2: were here long before humans even evolved on the planet,

39:33 Speaker 2: knew we were about to evolve, knew that we were

39:37 Speaker 2: about to step into what is occurring today, which is

39:40 Speaker 2: us as love beings. And like I've tried to tell

39:45 Speaker 2: that my message is the reason the malevolent aliens are

39:50 Speaker 2: here breaking the prime Directive, in cahoots with the Cabal,

39:54 Speaker 2: and in kahoots with malevolent elements of all governments, not

39:58 Speaker 2: just our government. We have elements folks who are paid

40:02 Speaker 2: well to keep their mouths shut. They're the ones who

40:05 Speaker 2: get to deal with the alien traded technologies. They get

40:08 Speaker 2: to hand out the military contracts for those unacknowledged special

40:11 Speaker 2: access programs. I only say all this to say that

40:16 Speaker 2: it's the reptilians coming here out of fear of what

40:20 Speaker 2: humans are about to explode into, which is love and

40:24 Speaker 2: love that the Reptilians can't even hang in the space

40:28 Speaker 2: where love exists. So it's a natural for them to

40:32 Speaker 2: go after the Nazis. And in the book The Dark

40:36 Speaker 2: Fleet you'll read about where he talks about most likely

40:40 Speaker 2: the Reptilians are known as genetic masterminds. As far as

40:46 Speaker 2: scientific genetic alteration, there is a sense that a very

40:51 Speaker 2: small group of the German population was genetically altered. Hence

40:56 Speaker 2: you have the rise of the Nazis in about nineteen

40:59 Speaker 2: thirty three, coming out of nowhere, this group that just

41:01 Speaker 2: comes out of nowhere, depraved mindsets totally all about this

41:07 Speaker 2: new Aryan race. And so this kind of leads into

41:12 Speaker 2: the blonde question of blonde, blue eyed. It's a visual

41:16 Speaker 2: for them to present to the populace to say, these

41:19 Speaker 2: are the chosen ones. You have to look like us

41:22 Speaker 2: and be like us. This is the race we're going

41:25 Speaker 2: to grow. But you also might know that most likely

41:30 Speaker 2: kind of like we've got mainly great humans on the

41:33 Speaker 2: planet in my opinion, and then we have factions like

41:35 Speaker 2: the Nazis, and you think, how can a faction grow

41:39 Speaker 2: up to be so depraved that they would, you know,

41:41 Speaker 2: murder six million people. Well, if you're genetically altered to

41:45 Speaker 2: not have any emotion towards people who are not serving you,

41:50 Speaker 2: then then that's how you are. It's not a function

41:54 Speaker 2: of going, me as a human going, how can you

41:57 Speaker 2: be that way? Not exactly exactly, Tyler. So now you've

42:04 Speaker 2: got in nineteen thirty eight, a whole faction of twenty

42:07 Speaker 2: year olds who have now grown up with genetic alteration,

42:11 Speaker 2: and they don't him learn those guys are just known

42:14 Speaker 2: to walk through concentration camps. And even von Braun, who's

42:18 Speaker 2: creating the v ones, was a known torture and murderer

42:21 Speaker 2: of his own crews that were building the v once.

42:24 Speaker 2: I mean, these are not human traits. No, these are

42:30 Speaker 2: a separate it's like a small separate faction. And having

42:34 Speaker 2: said that, and this will be the last bit I'll

42:36 Speaker 2: tell you about this, because I think I've kind of

42:37 Speaker 2: roughly covered why they were so focused on any sacred artifacts.

42:44 Speaker 2: They were looking for any energy to help them win

42:47 Speaker 2: the war. Now they're told they're not going to win

42:49 Speaker 2: the war by the Draco and they're also told, hey,

42:52 Speaker 2: you want to go off world. I know that's what

42:54 Speaker 2: you really want, which is what they wanted. So get

42:57 Speaker 2: over to Antarctica and establish your base, which becomes Base

43:00 Speaker 2: two eleven. That's where the first anti gravity ships are

43:04 Speaker 2: built with Draco help. That's where Operation High Jump. When

43:08 Speaker 2: the Americans go down to try to oust the Nazis

43:12 Speaker 2: from that base, they are jumped by flying saucers coming

43:17 Speaker 2: out of the ocean at incredible velocities that shoot down

43:20 Speaker 2: all thirty f U cors Air fighters flying over birds flotilla.

43:26 Speaker 2: Within ten minutes, all those corsairs are burning and heading

43:30 Speaker 2: towards the ocean to their watery graves, and the flotilla

43:34 Speaker 2: is suddenly turned around because birds like, what in the

43:37 Speaker 2: world is happening? They had never never seen anything like it.

43:40 Speaker 2: So I'm just saying all of that stuff occurs because

43:46 Speaker 2: of reptilian manipulation, not only of just kind of speaking

43:51 Speaker 2: with humans, but you've got to remember there's genetic alterations,

43:54 Speaker 2: so that by the time they're discussing things with Himmler,

43:58 Speaker 2: Himler is part of it. He's been most likely he

44:02 Speaker 2: didn't even know it, but he's been genetically altered to

44:04 Speaker 2: be receptive into the repillion stuff. So if you just

44:12 Speaker 2: sit back for a second and you go, Okay, wait

44:14 Speaker 2: a minute. If they can come to our planet, we

44:17 Speaker 2: can't even leave our planet. Essentially, Yeah, we can leave

44:20 Speaker 2: with the rocket once in a while. Obviously we can

44:23 Speaker 2: leave with a lot more. But I'm talking about what

44:25 Speaker 2: we all believed in nineteen thirty eight that we couldn't

44:29 Speaker 2: depart the planet. But they arrived here from somewhere else, right,

44:32 Speaker 2: So you're thinking about technology just to get them here.

44:36 Speaker 2: That's lifetimes ahead of us. Now, think about this, millions

44:41 Speaker 2: of years ahead of us. We're finding we we're finding

44:46 Speaker 2: spaceships that are ten thousand to a million years old.

44:50 Speaker 2: They're spaceships, you know, that have crash landed. So then

44:54 Speaker 2: you start to go, okay, wait a minute. If they're

44:56 Speaker 2: bringing that technology, what can they do to further their

45:02 Speaker 2: goals of controlling humanity. They can just infiltrate this. They

45:06 Speaker 2: can infiltrate the top folks from all countries and be

45:12 Speaker 2: hybrids and look just like a human, except they've got

45:15 Speaker 2: a reptilian agenda. And the way they're directing things big

45:20 Speaker 2: pharma industry media, When you start to do the math

45:25 Speaker 2: and just just be normal about it. If I'm going

45:29 Speaker 2: to take over a planet. That's what I'm going to do.

45:31 Speaker 2: If I can fly there from anywhere in the in

45:34 Speaker 2: the interstellar world multiverse, then I certainly have the technology

45:40 Speaker 2: by then to go all right, well, heck, I'll just

45:43 Speaker 2: enter a human, I'll enter a few humans. They've done

45:45 Speaker 2: this on supposedly that racover. Reptilians have done this on

45:49 Speaker 2: many worlds. They've taken over many worlds.

45:52 Speaker 1: And they don't do it by hostile takeover. They do

45:55 Speaker 1: it from that within. So because when you do it,

45:58 Speaker 1: when any hostile takeover I think would be obviously that's

46:03 Speaker 1: where resistance and rebellion is born. Right, So if you

46:08 Speaker 1: do it from within over a long period of time,

46:10 Speaker 1: and maybe time isn't even something that that matters to

46:14 Speaker 1: you because you have plenty of it, and it's you know,

46:18 Speaker 1: we experience time in different ways and time being you know,

46:22 Speaker 1: not linear but more like an infinity symbol, uh matrix. Right.

46:29 Speaker 1: So if that's the case, then then why why why

46:35 Speaker 1: a hostile takeover that that wouldn't even be It wouldn't

46:39 Speaker 1: even make sense. Just you infiltrate and from it.

46:42 Speaker 2: You're it's a velvet takeover. You're exactly right, tie and

46:46 Speaker 2: get this, it's the perfect thing because you're perpetrating against

46:52 Speaker 2: You're perpetrating this velvet takeover against people who don't even

46:58 Speaker 2: believe in aliens. So they're not going to rise up

47:03 Speaker 2: against aliens who are taking them over because they don't

47:06 Speaker 2: believe there's aliens here in the first place. And that's

47:10 Speaker 2: the crux of the hoodwink. If they can just make

47:14 Speaker 2: it so that, oh, aliens, if you believe in those,

47:16 Speaker 2: you're just crazy. So now you've got the human population

47:20 Speaker 2: controlled on every level, and they can do their takeover.

47:23 Speaker 2: They can start infiltrating into different human entities, into different

47:27 Speaker 2: human bodies because they can sole steal that's part of

47:30 Speaker 2: their technology. They can just take my soul, put it

47:34 Speaker 2: in a beaker, infiltrate my avatar this body, and I'm

47:39 Speaker 2: md seely talking to you, but now I suddenly have

47:41 Speaker 2: a reptilian agenda and then the things that where you're

47:45 Speaker 2: and this is how they can do it all the

47:47 Speaker 2: way from the top and just gently massage us indefinitely

47:54 Speaker 2: into this environment where we don't believe there's aliens, and

47:58 Speaker 2: meanwhile there's ship's going off world because they're kahoots with

48:01 Speaker 2: the cabal and a few humans that help them control humanity.

48:06 Speaker 1: Do you think this is where, like like the the

48:10 Speaker 1: stories of the past come in, you know, uh, where

48:14 Speaker 1: like angels and demons, you know, the demons because you know,

48:20 Speaker 1: like I saying, for instance, is the greatest trick the

48:22 Speaker 1: devil ever Pold was convincing people he didn't exist. Right,

48:27 Speaker 1: that sounds exactly like what we're talking about. Possession, taking

48:32 Speaker 1: your soul, inhabiting your avatar. That sounds like possession. Right,

48:36 Speaker 1: it's you, but it's not you. So through time again,

48:41 Speaker 1: and I bring up time for a reason. We you know,

48:45 Speaker 1: it's whether they're calling them gods, the onunaki, uh, the

48:50 Speaker 1: you know, angels, demons or aliens. Do you think that

48:55 Speaker 1: we might all be talking about the same thing, just

48:57 Speaker 1: through different lenses.

48:58 Speaker 2: Yes, you're on it, right, You're completely on it. You're

49:01 Speaker 2: you're completely on track. It's all the same thing. And

49:06 Speaker 2: just remember, almost all stories are based on something that

49:10 Speaker 2: someone's seen. So those ancient stories that are passed down,

49:13 Speaker 2: it doesn't matter Bible, biblical ancient text. Generally someone has

49:20 Speaker 2: had an experience where they may have seen an alien

49:23 Speaker 2: back then that looks kind of reptilian. And if you

49:26 Speaker 2: look at the statues around the pyramids, the Great Pyramids.

49:31 Speaker 2: There's a lot of very reptilian looking mascots if you

49:35 Speaker 2: want to, or gargoyles hanging out on all the corners.

49:38 Speaker 2: And you're like, where would someone have molded that clay

49:43 Speaker 2: or whatever it's molded of that figurine? Where would they've

49:46 Speaker 2: gotten that idea from? Right? Makes sense?

49:49 Speaker 1: Right? So aside from the aside from the because I've

49:56 Speaker 1: had when I had Danny shean On here, he had

50:00 Speaker 1: talk to me about multiples, multiple different races. And again

50:04 Speaker 1: this is I kind of get back to the angels

50:06 Speaker 1: and demons thing. It seems that that it's at least

50:12 Speaker 1: being portrayed that there's multiple species that have that that

50:18 Speaker 1: have come to Earth. Some have our interest at heart,

50:22 Speaker 1: some don't, Some are indifferent. And you know, obviously we

50:27 Speaker 1: need to be careful with indifference because sometimes indifference can

50:30 Speaker 1: look like you know, Levolncy, but it's not. So do

50:36 Speaker 1: you think that there are multiple races of a quote

50:40 Speaker 1: unquote aliens here?

50:43 Speaker 2: Absolutely, they're completely among us. So I'll give you a

50:45 Speaker 2: kind of an example. Just think of the Earth for

50:50 Speaker 2: a second, right, think of all the races, all the factions,

50:55 Speaker 2: on our planet alone, there are trillions, trillions. Think about this,

51:02 Speaker 2: of galaxies. There's a multiverse. There are trillions and trillions

51:11 Speaker 2: of races. But just remember the benevolent ones that are here,

51:15 Speaker 2: that are watching this thing play out. They won't break

51:18 Speaker 2: the prime directive. Everyone, even aliens, have to sign contracts.

51:22 Speaker 2: The Draco, the Maetra, the Grays all had to sign

51:27 Speaker 2: contracts which say you won't break the prime directive. But

51:32 Speaker 2: it's a ninety five to five ratio from everything that

51:34 Speaker 2: I understand about the multiverse, ninety benevolent races and five

51:40 Speaker 2: percent that are malevolent. And those five percent are not

51:44 Speaker 2: only more than happy to break the prime directive to

51:47 Speaker 2: further their aims of power and control of especially of

51:51 Speaker 2: humans because of what we're about to become, but you

51:56 Speaker 2: have to remember that they will do anything in their

51:59 Speaker 2: pawer to further their overall control in the multiverse. I mean,

52:05 Speaker 2: they are known as just planet conquering hordes. Now you've

52:10 Speaker 2: got to remember about the Draco, and I want to

52:13 Speaker 2: be clear about this. It's easy to be racist about

52:16 Speaker 2: the Draco, but the Draco have been here long before humans,

52:20 Speaker 2: and you've got to remember, just like humans have a

52:23 Speaker 2: bad faction. Let's call them the Nazis, or let's call

52:26 Speaker 2: them the American Mafia. There are factions within humanity where

52:30 Speaker 2: we kind of go, that's not really who we are

52:32 Speaker 2: as a race. That's a faction of them that right,

52:37 Speaker 2: that tends to do maybe some bad things. That's what

52:40 Speaker 2: you're dealing with with Draco telling You've got to remember

52:44 Speaker 2: it would be racist to just say, all Draco, No,

52:47 Speaker 2: that is a faction of what I understand to be

52:50 Speaker 2: a very benevolent, wonderful race that has lived below, in

52:55 Speaker 2: and around our planet long before we got here.

52:59 Speaker 1: So do you think that? Okay, that's very interesting because

53:03 Speaker 1: that brings me to a question of because I've racked

53:10 Speaker 1: my brain that probably thousands of times about why would

53:16 Speaker 1: why would the government really want to be secret about

53:20 Speaker 1: this like UFOs right then, I don't know. If it

53:27 Speaker 1: was just UFOs in the sky, would all the secrecy

53:31 Speaker 1: be necessary? Would they really really institute such drastic measures

53:36 Speaker 1: to keep it from us? I don't know. I don't know.

53:39 Speaker 1: Even the beings. That's a stretch, right, the classification and

53:44 Speaker 1: the secrecy around that. There's other life, uh, you know,

53:49 Speaker 1: I maybe, But then I start getting to the the

53:54 Speaker 1: real meat is what I call it. So it's not

53:57 Speaker 1: that they're classifying. It's not that they want to keep

53:59 Speaker 1: us from knowing that UFOs exist or even that other

54:02 Speaker 1: life exists, but maybe that this other life is partly

54:09 Speaker 1: responsible for why we are even here in the first place.

54:14 Speaker 1: And are we ready to meet our creator? Literally?

54:21 Speaker 2: So, so your question is that are we ready to

54:24 Speaker 2: are we You're you're saying that it may be the

54:26 Speaker 2: malevola aliens that created us? Is that you're is that

54:29 Speaker 2: we're kind of.

54:31 Speaker 1: I don't know question. Okay, yeah, I don't know. I

54:34 Speaker 1: guess not maybe maybe not exactly a question, but more

54:38 Speaker 1: of me pondering could the could could an alien and

54:44 Speaker 1: quote unquote alien because alien, I think is a very

54:46 Speaker 1: weird word, but non this other whatever, non human intelligence

54:52 Speaker 1: it is that, uh, could they have played a part

54:56 Speaker 1: in the creation of human beings and altering our genetic

55:02 Speaker 1: makeup and essentially you know, being our god? If you will, like,

55:09 Speaker 1: are we ready.

55:10 Speaker 2: To know that? Yeah? So I'll answer to the best

55:14 Speaker 2: of my knowledge from all my research. Now you had

55:18 Speaker 2: kind of hinted at that it might be the malevolent

55:21 Speaker 2: aliens as our god. Are we ready to meet?

55:23 Speaker 1: Right?

55:23 Speaker 2: I'll just right they I'll just say this no, and

55:29 Speaker 2: the answer is is because your love. And here's here's

55:33 Speaker 2: my best understanding of what's occurred. And this is from

55:37 Speaker 2: not only contact these but many sources who deal SSP

55:41 Speaker 2: and have There's just a lot of information now which

55:44 Speaker 2: you know about. But according to everything that I know,

55:48 Speaker 2: at some point twenty one to twenty four of the

55:54 Speaker 2: best of the benevolent alien races were essentially beakerd and

56:00 Speaker 2: we were an experiment from And this is how the

56:03 Speaker 2: reptiliens knew it was going to happen on Earth. They

56:06 Speaker 2: knew it was going to occur here. The best of

56:09 Speaker 2: the alien races, all of the alien races got together

56:12 Speaker 2: at some point. This is trillions of people participating, I

56:16 Speaker 2: shouldn't say people of alien races participating saying hey, what

56:20 Speaker 2: could we do to create just the best of the

56:23 Speaker 2: best of us? So we are that experiment. We come

56:28 Speaker 2: from Benevolent, the best of the benevolence. And hence, when

56:32 Speaker 2: I say when we step into who we're about to be,

56:36 Speaker 2: our capability, our intent, the power that we're going to

56:39 Speaker 2: bring as love which we're already bringing, it's so unstoppable

56:46 Speaker 2: that that's why you have these malevolent races who knew

56:49 Speaker 2: this was coming. Like, we need to control these guys

56:53 Speaker 2: before they burst. How are we going to do that.

56:56 Speaker 2: Let's drag a moon there and put a beacon in

56:59 Speaker 2: it that kind of keeps them down into the third density.

57:02 Speaker 2: Let's you can to infiltrate so you know your moon

57:07 Speaker 2: is not what you think it is. And I'll say

57:09 Speaker 2: that from many secret space program folks who've been like

57:13 Speaker 2: at the Lunar Operations Command run by the CIA. There's

57:17 Speaker 2: reptilian bases there, there's gray bases, there's harvesting facilities. It's

57:22 Speaker 2: the dark side of the Moon. Doesn't rotate for a reason.

57:25 Speaker 2: It's the only moon that we will ever know of

57:28 Speaker 2: that doesn't rotate around its main planet. It's because it's

57:32 Speaker 2: not organic. It's literally a space station. It's hollow. When

57:37 Speaker 2: you have all the even the NASA stuff where they said,

57:41 Speaker 2: well we had to drop the lower half of the

57:43 Speaker 2: rocket and leave it at the moon, and when it

57:45 Speaker 2: hits the Moon, you have all these ham radio operators

57:47 Speaker 2: worldwide going, what is this sudden ringing? And because it's hollow,

57:53 Speaker 2: it's a huge metal frame and right has been landed

57:58 Speaker 2: and on has been inside of it. But many of

58:00 Speaker 2: the Secret Space Program personnel, many of them will tell

58:03 Speaker 2: you that's where their age regressed. That's where the mind

58:07 Speaker 2: wipe technology is used on them for up to like

58:10 Speaker 2: seven weeks. And all of them go through the Lunar

58:13 Speaker 2: Operations Command at one point or another, either on their

58:16 Speaker 2: way to Mars. And I'm saying that if we have

58:20 Speaker 2: a base there, which we do, the Reptilians have had

58:22 Speaker 2: a base there forever. The Nazis put their very first

58:25 Speaker 2: swastika shaped base on the dark side of the Moon,

58:29 Speaker 2: and then you just had what's his name, I believe

58:31 Speaker 2: his name was Wolf, the sergeant major.

58:35 Speaker 1: Who did the disclosed Carl Wolf.

58:37 Speaker 2: And he get Carl Wolf, and he's trying to tell everybody,

58:41 Speaker 2: I'm looking at photographs of bases in nineteen sixty six

58:46 Speaker 2: or whenever he saw him, the backside of the moon

58:49 Speaker 2: is covered in bases. And then he gets run over

58:52 Speaker 2: by a tractor trailer, you know whatever, a year ago.

58:54 Speaker 2: I'm just saying that that there is enough evidence all

58:59 Speaker 2: over the place to go, Oh, there's just too many

59:02 Speaker 2: people that have been there. It's like there's clearly a

59:05 Speaker 2: huge operation that goes on daily. We send the TR

59:08 Speaker 2: three B from a cord daily to the Moon. We've

59:11 Speaker 2: had that. It's our workhorse. It's a Lockheed Martin anti

59:15 Speaker 2: gravity ship that's been around for many years now. There's

59:19 Speaker 2: flights out of Station D, which is Area fifty one.

59:22 Speaker 2: I'm just saying that there is a lot of evidence,

59:25 Speaker 2: and I'm coming back to your question of are we

59:28 Speaker 2: ready to meet them? You're it, you are love, you

59:35 Speaker 2: are the experiment, you are the thing. You are the

59:40 Speaker 2: reason all of the malevolent alien races are here. They

59:43 Speaker 2: fear you because they know what you're about to become,

59:47 Speaker 2: which is just explosive love. They can't loiter in that space.

59:51 Speaker 2: They're already having to depart. The cabal is failing. They're

59:55 Speaker 2: already on the run. From what I understand, most of

59:58 Speaker 2: the Reptilians who were are dead. They literally can't hang in.

1:00:02 Speaker 2: What's happening now with Sophia literally blooming, she's turning inside out,

1:00:08 Speaker 2: she's bringing her heart out to go Nope, I'm finally

1:00:11 Speaker 2: gonna stand up for these humans who have been coward enough.

1:00:14 Speaker 2: We're all going to rise together. And that's what's occurring.

1:00:19 Speaker 1: So the so the moon is and the moon has

1:00:26 Speaker 1: always interested me. The moon just it's the most odd satellite,

1:00:35 Speaker 1: if you will. We look around our even our own

1:00:38 Speaker 1: solar system, and you know, whether it's Phobos or what's

1:00:43 Speaker 1: the other moon around, they just they always look like potatoes,

1:00:49 Speaker 1: you know, like like they have different random shapes. And

1:00:52 Speaker 1: then we got our moon that perfectly eclipses, right, I

1:00:55 Speaker 1: think the exact dimensions that it needs to be to

1:01:00 Speaker 1: clips perfectly the Sun, you know, it's all the and

1:01:06 Speaker 1: then it's the exact distance away to to you know,

1:01:12 Speaker 1: all the oddities that we see, like what are the

1:01:14 Speaker 1: chances cosmically given the backdrop of the universe, Like what

1:01:20 Speaker 1: are the odds? I'm not saying it's zero, but it's

1:01:23 Speaker 1: there is also literature that talks about a time before

1:01:27 Speaker 1: the moon, So what is that? What?

1:01:30 Speaker 2: So let me be clear, it is the biggest heartbreak

1:01:35 Speaker 2: for me two and this is what I talk about.

1:01:38 Speaker 2: It stings for me when I realize the deception. The

1:01:42 Speaker 2: moon has always been my muse. It's always been the

1:01:44 Speaker 2: most wonderful thing. I've just always you know, like disappear

1:01:48 Speaker 2: three days with the moon. Why not It's so wonderful,

1:01:51 Speaker 2: right right? And then to realize to have Elena Denon

1:01:55 Speaker 2: go to the center of the Moon where she's meeting

1:01:58 Speaker 2: with people inside the metal frame, right, and so many

1:02:02 Speaker 2: secret space people who have been on board the Moon

1:02:05 Speaker 2: for really awful stuff that occurred to them, but have

1:02:08 Speaker 2: been at the Lunar Operations Command. Everything starts there. When

1:02:12 Speaker 2: you depart Earth, you go to the Moon first, generally

1:02:15 Speaker 2: before you go off world to some other planet like Mars.

1:02:18 Speaker 2: The Nazis have their own base there. They take a

1:02:20 Speaker 2: lot of their slaves. Tony rod Rieg's was there on

1:02:24 Speaker 2: the Moon, I believe before you went to series. But

1:02:28 Speaker 2: my point is is that once you get enough information

1:02:31 Speaker 2: about the Moon, then you have to go through again

1:02:34 Speaker 2: the five stages of grief of oh, this beautiful orb

1:02:37 Speaker 2: that I still see each night, right right now, I

1:02:39 Speaker 2: have to go all right, it's my beautiful sun that's

1:02:42 Speaker 2: reflecting off a space station. It's okay, But the Moon

1:02:47 Speaker 2: has nothing to do with organic It's not real. It

1:02:50 Speaker 2: wasn't there when the I mean, it's real, but it

1:02:53 Speaker 2: wasn't there when the Earth arrived, when the Earth became

1:02:56 Speaker 2: a planet, right, there was no Moon here that was

1:03:01 Speaker 2: dragged here by the Reptilians for a reason. And it's

1:03:05 Speaker 2: the same one that I just talked about. It is

1:03:08 Speaker 2: literally a frequency expander for technology that they have inside

1:03:13 Speaker 2: the moon that kind of attempted to keep us within

1:03:16 Speaker 2: the third density. We're about to rise out of the

1:03:19 Speaker 2: third density. It's where we see each other today. But

1:03:22 Speaker 2: you've got to remember Nordic's working the seventh. They can

1:03:25 Speaker 2: appear to you in the third. Reptilians work in the

1:03:27 Speaker 2: lower fourth. They can appear to you in the third.

1:03:30 Speaker 2: But we as humans, when we step into what we're

1:03:33 Speaker 2: going to be, my understanding is we will be able

1:03:35 Speaker 2: to go through any density we want up to, like

1:03:38 Speaker 2: the thirteenth density, which those groups can't even work in.

1:03:43 Speaker 2: Because of love, we will be able to rise vibrationally

1:03:47 Speaker 2: to different densities where we're literally working intergalactically without an avatar, right, right.

1:03:55 Speaker 1: And love seems to be because love, Love is unique.

1:04:01 Speaker 1: Love is Some say it can hinder, but I think love,

1:04:06 Speaker 1: you know, because love can also lead to I loved

1:04:09 Speaker 1: my mother, right and now that now that she's now

1:04:13 Speaker 1: that she's gone, and I had to watch her that

1:04:17 Speaker 1: caused me a lot of pain. Right, But but love

1:04:20 Speaker 1: is the only thing that seems to transcend time and space.

1:04:26 Speaker 1: And and reality itself. I mean, my mom is no

1:04:29 Speaker 1: longer in this physical realm, but I still love her

1:04:33 Speaker 1: like the day that that like the day that she

1:04:39 Speaker 1: you know, any day that she was around, right, I

1:04:42 Speaker 1: love her just as much and and if not more

1:04:46 Speaker 1: now because I I spend most of my time when

1:04:49 Speaker 1: I think about her missing her. Love is a very

1:04:53 Speaker 1: powerful thing, but but hate is too. And that's why,

1:04:58 Speaker 1: you know, I feel like, you know, when you have

1:05:00 Speaker 1: a bad day and you hit every red light, it's

1:05:02 Speaker 1: because you've you know, you wake up on the wrong

1:05:06 Speaker 1: side of the bed. You you you slam your foot against

1:05:10 Speaker 1: the frame of the bed, and you start off with

1:05:13 Speaker 1: a negative mindset, and then you hit every red light

1:05:17 Speaker 1: and then you're late to work. It's because you're like

1:05:20 Speaker 1: you're And then they've proven this. I've also talked about

1:05:24 Speaker 1: this on the show probably many times. Ad nauseum. I

1:05:26 Speaker 1: always forget to look up what university University did, but

1:05:31 Speaker 1: Displace they froze water, and before they froze the water,

1:05:35 Speaker 1: they spoke to it and anything that had like a

1:05:38 Speaker 1: good loving connotation. The crystals would freeze in this very

1:05:42 Speaker 1: beautiful fashion. And when they would speak words like hate

1:05:46 Speaker 1: or anything that had a negative connotation, the crystals would freeze,

1:05:51 Speaker 1: and you know, just our erratic looking ways and it

1:05:57 Speaker 1: what they're what they were trying to say, and I

1:05:59 Speaker 1: get us. What the what the point of it all

1:06:03 Speaker 1: is is that your thought, your intent, your words, they

1:06:08 Speaker 1: matter literally affect the matter around you. So you know,

1:06:15 Speaker 1: when you're having a great day and everything seems to

1:06:17 Speaker 1: be going right, yet every green light, it's your your

1:06:20 Speaker 1: your charge. You're part of the world around you and

1:06:24 Speaker 1: you influence it. And you know that before nine to eleven,

1:06:29 Speaker 1: countless people had dreams about uh tower plane hitting at

1:06:34 Speaker 1: the towers or some sort of variation on that. Like

1:06:38 Speaker 1: why is that? I think it's because we're in tune

1:06:41 Speaker 1: with our surroundings to a level that either is aftrophied

1:06:47 Speaker 1: or we're rediscovering.

1:06:50 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think to your point about mindset, I'll

1:06:54 Speaker 2: say something about that that I've kind of learned recently

1:06:59 Speaker 2: that I think will be helpful hopefully to some is

1:07:02 Speaker 2: that I have really worked hard to to step through

1:07:08 Speaker 2: my day with my heart leading right, because I used

1:07:10 Speaker 2: to lead everything with the head because I thought, well,

1:07:12 Speaker 2: I want to really think about things and have all

1:07:14 Speaker 2: the answers and the whole time, I was realizing that

1:07:18 Speaker 2: the only way to kind of do this correctly to

1:07:22 Speaker 2: what feels like home to me is to begin with

1:07:25 Speaker 2: the heart. So here's an alternate thing that I've kind

1:07:29 Speaker 2: of learned. Like, if I get up and I hit

1:07:31 Speaker 2: my foot like you said, and I've just I've had

1:07:33 Speaker 2: bad dreams and I'm in a what you said, a mindset,

1:07:37 Speaker 2: if you can then go, yeah, I'm in a mindset.

1:07:40 Speaker 2: I'm in ego. Everything's not perfect, it's not going right,

1:07:43 Speaker 2: it's all red lights. If you can then go, wait

1:07:46 Speaker 2: a minute, let me go to heart. Let's let's let

1:07:51 Speaker 2: me drop into heart space. Let the brain just be

1:07:53 Speaker 2: a decoder of this of this gigantic, untouchable, unspeakable thing

1:08:00 Speaker 2: that is love that I am, that I brought, that

1:08:02 Speaker 2: I am not going outside of myself for I'm it.

1:08:07 Speaker 2: I'm love, not in the ego way, not you know,

1:08:11 Speaker 2: prouder in that way. You're in a never so content

1:08:16 Speaker 2: space because you're coming from what you are, which is love.

1:08:20 Speaker 2: When you drop into that, you're not in a headspace anymore.

1:08:25 Speaker 2: And the red light is like, do I really care

1:08:29 Speaker 2: if I get somewhere today? Yeah, I gotta go to work,

1:08:31 Speaker 2: but light. The light will change perfectly as I chose

1:08:38 Speaker 2: it to change. So let me take you one step further.

1:08:43 Speaker 2: You chose this as love. You chose your path. And

1:08:47 Speaker 2: I'll say one last thing about your mom, which is

1:08:49 Speaker 2: kind of fun, I think, and kind of awesome. You

1:08:53 Speaker 2: mentioned the pain of seeing her go because you love her, right,

1:08:58 Speaker 2: And you, as love came here to learn about yourself

1:09:02 Speaker 2: as love, to learn to love better. That's all we're

1:09:05 Speaker 2: here for. We're just where the energy of love before

1:09:09 Speaker 2: this body. You chose as love, Like, I'm going to

1:09:11 Speaker 2: go be a human here for a while and see

1:09:14 Speaker 2: what that's like to learn more about love. I'm gonna

1:09:17 Speaker 2: have experiences that are great and sad and wonderful and

1:09:20 Speaker 2: magical and crazy and nuts because I need to learn

1:09:24 Speaker 2: more about love, about myself as love. So you chose

1:09:31 Speaker 2: exactly what occurred with your mom. And what's wild is

1:09:35 Speaker 2: is even in the pain where you were just missing

1:09:37 Speaker 2: her and it, we just felt like this can't be.

1:09:40 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, you kind of almost question love

1:09:43 Speaker 2: when you said that, when you said, you know, love

1:09:45 Speaker 2: is so great, it could be so great, But you

1:09:47 Speaker 2: know I went through a lot of pain, right, But

1:09:49 Speaker 2: I think again, if you can step back into that,

1:09:52 Speaker 2: you chose this for a lesson you as love experienced

1:09:59 Speaker 2: this connection with your mom, which is still completely there.

1:10:02 Speaker 2: On Your mom is still here as love and you're

1:10:07 Speaker 2: still connected with her as love. But what you perhaps

1:10:11 Speaker 2: needed to learn in having her disappear from her avatar

1:10:16 Speaker 2: is the lesson of, oh, she didn't go anywhere nowhere.

1:10:23 Speaker 1: It's powerful.

1:10:24 Speaker 2: The avatar went away. And that's what I got into

1:10:28 Speaker 2: my headspace of oh the avatar is gone. I miss

1:10:31 Speaker 2: the avatar. Sure, you miss being hugged by your mom,

1:10:33 Speaker 2: I get it, same with me.

1:10:35 Speaker 1: Right, wow, Yeah that's deep man, right, Oh wow, I

1:10:41 Speaker 1: I yeah, that's very advent.

1:10:44 Speaker 2: She's always here, right, she did, She didn't leave. She

1:10:46 Speaker 2: was here before.

1:10:47 Speaker 1: And I fail here. I know, And I am very

1:10:51 Speaker 1: like I like to consider myself because of the couple

1:10:55 Speaker 1: experiences that I've had. I like to consider myself like

1:10:58 Speaker 1: a very very very skeptical believer, Like because I've seen

1:11:03 Speaker 1: some pretty remarkable things. My bar for thing, you know,

1:11:09 Speaker 1: my bar for for for what belief is is very high.

1:11:15 Speaker 1: So you know when people tell me like these really weird,

1:11:18 Speaker 1: crazy stories, and you know, it's not that I don't

1:11:22 Speaker 1: believe them. It's just I can tell when someone's just

1:11:25 Speaker 1: trying to tell me a story or like when they're

1:11:29 Speaker 1: when they're being genuine right, And it's it's interesting. It's

1:11:36 Speaker 1: interesting because we as we as like quote unquote believers.

1:11:43 Speaker 1: Sometimes I have the sign right here that I want

1:11:46 Speaker 1: to believe. Sometimes sometimes we do and that's what's allowed

1:11:51 Speaker 1: people to come into this this space and take advantage

1:11:55 Speaker 1: of people, take advantage of their want to believe. And

1:11:59 Speaker 1: I think it's it's been very it's it's a very

1:12:01 Speaker 1: dangerous thing to take everything at face, like take everything

1:12:05 Speaker 1: as truth, because there are still bad actors in our

1:12:11 Speaker 1: world right now. Like you talk about this transformation that's coming.

1:12:16 Speaker 1: You know, Chris Bledsoe has talked about something very similar

1:12:20 Speaker 1: in his experiences. And how how I mean, do you

1:12:26 Speaker 1: know about what Chris's Chris talks about? And how does that?

1:12:30 Speaker 2: I know the name? Give me the reader's digest version

1:12:33 Speaker 2: of what Chris is about, because I'm up.

1:12:34 Speaker 1: He wrote UFO of God and he.

1:12:38 Speaker 2: Often okay, yeah, I did I read his book, I

1:12:40 Speaker 2: should say listened to it.

1:12:41 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know what I'm talking about now. So

1:12:46 Speaker 1: he talks about how the lady told him, and I've

1:12:49 Speaker 1: had him on the show. I introduced him at Contact

1:12:51 Speaker 1: in the Desert, which is a great experience for me.

1:12:56 Speaker 1: He talks about how the lady told him that when

1:12:59 Speaker 1: the star, when the Star of Regulus lie in the

1:13:05 Speaker 1: gaze of the Sphinx, humanity will well maybe I'm misquoting it,

1:13:12 Speaker 1: but humanity will go through a change. And you know,

1:13:17 Speaker 1: he's been talking about this for quite a while, and

1:13:20 Speaker 1: he even found he with an astronomer. They did the

1:13:24 Speaker 1: calculations and when the star of Regulus or the or

1:13:28 Speaker 1: I think they called it. I think they didn't even

1:13:30 Speaker 1: she didn't even name the star. She just said the

1:13:32 Speaker 1: red star. And that's so, the star of Regulus is

1:13:36 Speaker 1: in the gaze of the sphinx. Easter twenty twenty seven.

1:13:41 Speaker 1: When did my mom die the day before Easter twenty

1:13:44 Speaker 1: twenty one? What of me and Chris have in common chromes?

1:13:49 Speaker 1: So I think I was meant to end up talking

1:13:53 Speaker 1: to him and communicating with him. I've always felt very

1:13:57 Speaker 1: but he he talks about again these angelic beings. He

1:14:02 Speaker 1: definitely puts a very religious overtone on his stories and

1:14:09 Speaker 1: and teach their own right, but he sees orbs of

1:14:13 Speaker 1: Light and says they're angels. Do I think they're angels?

1:14:17 Speaker 1: I don't know. Do I think they're non human intelligence? Yeah?

1:14:22 Speaker 1: But by definition of angels and non human intelligence? So, M,

1:14:27 Speaker 1: what do you think of So, because you're you're talking

1:14:30 Speaker 1: about a change that we're about to go through, do

1:14:32 Speaker 1: you give any merit to these these dates and predictions

1:14:36 Speaker 1: that people put out there? A lot of people have

1:14:38 Speaker 1: been talking about twenty twenty seven.

1:14:41 Speaker 2: Well, my impression is you're in the midst of it,

1:14:45 Speaker 2: So it's not a it's not a one day thing

1:14:49 Speaker 2: that occurs in like, oh, suddenly we're evolved. I don't

1:14:51 Speaker 2: think that's the way it works. My impression is that,

1:14:56 Speaker 2: just like all other changes occur over millennium, right, this

1:15:02 Speaker 2: phase could be years, it could be it could be months.

1:15:06 Speaker 2: I don't think it will be within a day. But

1:15:08 Speaker 2: I think what occurs if you're trying to be in

1:15:12 Speaker 2: tune with your heart right now. My experience of kind

1:15:17 Speaker 2: of the folks I'm in touch with is that it's

1:15:21 Speaker 2: occurring right now, and you can be aware of it.

1:15:24 Speaker 2: The more you drop into heart space, you will since

1:15:32 Speaker 2: an evolution taking place. And the other thing that I

1:15:35 Speaker 2: would say about.

1:15:37 Speaker 1: My sense it already right.

1:15:40 Speaker 2: The other thing I would say about a realistic view

1:15:46 Speaker 2: of what's coming is, you know a lot of folks

1:15:51 Speaker 2: who are kind of new to this alien space i'll

1:15:54 Speaker 2: just call it the alien space or the conspiracy space

1:15:57 Speaker 2: or whatever, that they realize, Wow, I may have been hoodwinked,

1:16:01 Speaker 2: and there's a lot more out there than I was

1:16:04 Speaker 2: ever willing tomt because I need to physically see it

1:16:07 Speaker 2: to believe it. A lot of those folks who have

1:16:10 Speaker 2: come into the space, and I think everybody's a part

1:16:12 Speaker 2: of that to some extent. You know, there's this feeling

1:16:15 Speaker 2: of like, oh, when all the flying saucers land and

1:16:17 Speaker 2: the aliens come here, then you know we're welcoming to

1:16:20 Speaker 2: the galactic community and we can just go with them

1:16:23 Speaker 2: and everything's going to be hunky dory. I think it's

1:16:26 Speaker 2: really important to understand that you're it, each one of us.

1:16:34 Speaker 2: Is it? So? If alien ships come down today and

1:16:38 Speaker 2: they're offering to take you off world or to their

1:16:41 Speaker 2: benevolent world, this, that, and the other, think about it.

1:16:45 Speaker 2: Use your heart, don't go into your head, watch them,

1:16:51 Speaker 2: vet them with your heart. I don't plan to go

1:16:55 Speaker 2: anywhere if a bunch of ships land today and reaches

1:16:58 Speaker 2: all over the place. I might say, that's really cool,

1:17:00 Speaker 2: you've got that technology, and they might be beckoning me

1:17:03 Speaker 2: to come with them and say, we can show you things.

1:17:04 Speaker 2: We can show you the spirit wall Er, we can

1:17:06 Speaker 2: show you technologies you won't believe. I'm most likely not

1:17:10 Speaker 2: gonna go anywhere. This orb is magical. And now I'll

1:17:17 Speaker 2: tell you this, this is kind of the most important thing.

1:17:20 Speaker 2: All of the technology that the Cabal has, all of

1:17:24 Speaker 2: the technology that's out in the current multiverse, everything you

1:17:29 Speaker 2: can think of, from Star Wars to Star Trek Prime,

1:17:32 Speaker 2: everything that's not only an actuality, it's far beyond that.

1:17:37 Speaker 2: The technologies that are available in the multiverse, the multi

1:17:42 Speaker 2: dimensional beings that can move between reality, right, all of it,

1:17:49 Speaker 2: all of it, Tyler is available. Now. My point is,

1:17:54 Speaker 2: all of it pales in comparison to you as love.

1:18:02 Speaker 1: M what a powerful sentiment. And you're right, you're so

1:18:08 Speaker 1: right about this or being magical. Far too many people

1:18:14 Speaker 1: get so hung up on living their life a certain

1:18:18 Speaker 1: way so they can get into heaven or the after

1:18:22 Speaker 1: life or you know, this kingdom of God that they

1:18:28 Speaker 1: that they've fantasized. When they they they either lack the

1:18:36 Speaker 1: ability or they just can't see that we've been given

1:18:41 Speaker 1: paradise already. We look around, look around. This is paradise

1:18:47 Speaker 1: on the same planet that there are you know, harsh

1:18:51 Speaker 1: deserts and mountainous terrain. There's planes, and there's snow capped

1:18:59 Speaker 1: snow capped mountains in the same same area as as

1:19:04 Speaker 1: a beautiful climate or uh not climate, a beautiful temperate climate.

1:19:11 Speaker 1: Uh And you know in California you can go skiing

1:19:15 Speaker 1: and swimming in the same day, right, and then you

1:19:18 Speaker 1: know from Hawaii, to just look around, this is paradise.

1:19:23 Speaker 1: The fact that we're here, that we exist, that conscious

1:19:28 Speaker 1: you know, uh, conscious beings in life exists here. That

1:19:34 Speaker 1: is the paradise. And I think people have overlooked that,

1:19:37 Speaker 1: and they're so concerned with getting into this heaven that

1:19:40 Speaker 1: we really don't know if it exists truly, Like that's

1:19:45 Speaker 1: a gamble and I'm just not willing to gamble with that.

1:19:48 Speaker 1: I'm gonna live exactly the way that I want to

1:19:53 Speaker 1: now because that now is the only thing that I

1:19:56 Speaker 1: know I'm promised.

1:19:58 Speaker 2: Right and remember the things that you're mentioning about heaven

1:20:03 Speaker 2: or out there. Once again, I'll point you back in

1:20:07 Speaker 2: the direction of your power. Your Heaven is with you now.

1:20:14 Speaker 2: It is who you are, right, so you can keep

1:20:17 Speaker 2: looking out and going, well, maybe if I get to heaven,

1:20:20 Speaker 2: how about how about you're there?

1:20:23 Speaker 1: How about you are there? Yeah, you are right.

1:20:26 Speaker 2: And let me throw something else about the physical planet

1:20:28 Speaker 2: that you're on. So there is many and I'll just

1:20:34 Speaker 2: say you should get JP on your show. You've probably

1:20:36 Speaker 2: seen him on the Michael Sola Show, Doctor Michael Solas Show.

1:20:39 Speaker 2: He has been down down within the Earth. So let's

1:20:44 Speaker 2: think about this for a second. The Earth is two

1:20:47 Speaker 2: hundred and sixty billion cubic miles, not million billion cubic miles.

1:20:57 Speaker 2: Is what fills our planet. There's plenty of room for

1:21:00 Speaker 2: many gigantic civilizations. And they're there. They're down in the oceans,

1:21:07 Speaker 2: they're in cavities within the Earth. We have ground penetrating radar.

1:21:11 Speaker 2: You can watch Emory Smith's interview on Guya Television where

1:21:16 Speaker 2: he's like, I'm working with guys and we're looking at

1:21:18 Speaker 2: a canyon that's thousands of miles long below the crust

1:21:23 Speaker 2: of the Earth, and there's an aquifer and there's water,

1:21:28 Speaker 2: and JP is like, I'm visiting civilizations on these missions

1:21:34 Speaker 2: far below the oceans. There is traffic below our oceans.

1:21:38 Speaker 2: There's a reason we have an underwater National Reconnaissance Office,

1:21:42 Speaker 2: not because of submarines, because of anti gravity traffic, not

1:21:47 Speaker 2: only American anti gravity traffic, but tons of alien races

1:21:52 Speaker 2: that operate below our oceans. You just have to step back,

1:21:58 Speaker 2: read all the accounts of all the different people who

1:22:00 Speaker 2: have met with the ant people. JP's one of them.

1:22:05 Speaker 2: There are ample spaces within this planet that are filled

1:22:14 Speaker 2: with entities much more ancient than us. There are different

1:22:20 Speaker 2: dimensions that are happening. I'm just saying, you have life

1:22:25 Speaker 2: from many various races all around you and in your

1:22:29 Speaker 2: midst and remember the benevolent ones or even in some

1:22:32 Speaker 2: of the avatars that you're considering, are absolutely human, like

1:22:36 Speaker 2: perhaps your president, or perhaps the president of another country,

1:22:40 Speaker 2: or perhaps your big media moguls. So just realize, like,

1:22:46 Speaker 2: if they have the technology to come here, they certainly

1:22:48 Speaker 2: have the technology to infiltrate our society on any level

1:22:52 Speaker 2: they want, because they're trying to control what you are,

1:22:57 Speaker 2: which is this unstoppable force that's coming right now.

1:23:04 Speaker 1: Interesting, my my editor is going to kill me about this.

1:23:07 Speaker 2: Interviews good that means you've had a good, interesting interview.

1:23:13 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I want to talk to

1:23:19 Speaker 1: you about something that's I think that's the dumbest thing

1:23:23 Speaker 1: to say in an interview. I want to talk to

1:23:25 Speaker 1: you about something.

1:23:26 Speaker 2: No, but it's like a real it's a it's a

1:23:28 Speaker 2: good human way of saying, I got to cover this, right,

1:23:32 Speaker 2: it's great.

1:23:33 Speaker 1: So there there there's been a story that is kind

1:23:42 Speaker 1: of it's it's part of like UFO history lore, whatever

1:23:47 Speaker 1: you want to call it. And it so President Eisenhower

1:23:55 Speaker 1: goes to uh.

1:24:00 Speaker 2: Yeah, also called muyick Field Sure nineteen fifty.

1:24:03 Speaker 1: Four and allegedly, you know, goes missing. Even the press

1:24:09 Speaker 1: is writing up how he died and then he reappears.

1:24:13 Speaker 1: They call it a dental emergency. Do you think that

1:24:19 Speaker 1: that there's validity to that story? And do you think

1:24:22 Speaker 1: that that he met with non human intelligence?

1:24:28 Speaker 2: Yes? On all levels. And it will be in volume

1:24:31 Speaker 2: two of Hush. It's being covered. I've been covering it

1:24:34 Speaker 2: for a long time.

1:24:35 Speaker 1: So can you give me about this?

1:24:37 Speaker 2: Sure? What do you want to know about it?

1:24:39 Speaker 1: So? What really happened? Because I'm a lot of people

1:24:42 Speaker 1: have a lot of variations on the story.

1:24:45 Speaker 2: Sure, what is so a three day event basically occurred

1:24:50 Speaker 2: on a weekend at at the time, it was muck

1:24:54 Speaker 2: Field that it became. It eventually is called Edwards nineteen

1:24:58 Speaker 2: fifty four, and because Eisenhower was having not only that meeting,

1:25:06 Speaker 2: but Eisenhower eventually meets with other alien representatives. And you've

1:25:11 Speaker 2: got to remember that it's during nineteen fifty four that

1:25:14 Speaker 2: the Majestic twelve which Truman set up, using forrestal to

1:25:19 Speaker 2: set it up, which had six scientists and six military guys,

1:25:24 Speaker 2: they end up signing with them eleven aliens behind Eisenhower's back.

1:25:29 Speaker 2: They start doing contracts, and that's where when Eisenhower leaves

1:25:34 Speaker 2: in his departing speech and he tries to tell the

1:25:36 Speaker 2: world and the best way he can, I can only

1:25:39 Speaker 2: tell you now I am no longer in control. Your

1:25:42 Speaker 2: Congress is not in control. It's now in the hands

1:25:45 Speaker 2: of the military industrial complex. But what he was really

1:25:48 Speaker 2: trying to say was we are in contractual obligations with

1:25:54 Speaker 2: malevolent alien groups and all of those technologies that they're

1:25:59 Speaker 2: trading with us for things that I won't cover today,

1:26:03 Speaker 2: that's basically humans. Those things that we're trading for are

1:26:07 Speaker 2: being reverse engineered at various facilities, including S four, which

1:26:12 Speaker 2: is run by the CIA and is top secret above

1:26:15 Speaker 2: even the president. That's why Eisenhower couldn't even go there.

1:26:18 Speaker 2: He's only up to top secret seventeen. Anyone who goes

1:26:21 Speaker 2: to Area fifty one and all of these underground, deep

1:26:24 Speaker 2: underground military facilities like Diego GARCIA, that's top secret eighteen

1:26:29 Speaker 2: and above. So only the cabal essentially hands out through

1:26:35 Speaker 2: the National Reconnaissance Office, hands out classifications that that's how

1:26:40 Speaker 2: they control all of the secret stuff that's being reverse engineered.

1:26:44 Speaker 2: That's how we have aliens and detentions. If you watch

1:26:47 Speaker 2: Emery Smith on Guya television, he'll tell you twenty years

1:26:50 Speaker 2: ago he's fifty floors down at Kirkland and he's working

1:26:55 Speaker 2: next to a praying manches that's doing the operation on

1:26:59 Speaker 2: an alien that they are dissecting because they're doing genetic

1:27:04 Speaker 2: experiments to meld aliens with humans. This is all for

1:27:07 Speaker 2: the kabal all on this planet, occurring today and has

1:27:12 Speaker 2: been since the late sixties as far as I can tell,

1:27:16 Speaker 2: at various deep underground military facilities. How is it funded.

1:27:20 Speaker 2: Special access programs are what you see on the news,

1:27:23 Speaker 2: like the B one B that's all below top secret seventeen.

1:27:27 Speaker 2: Above top secret seventeen is unacknowledged special access programs. Think

1:27:33 Speaker 2: Lockheed Martin, and those contracts are handed out from the

1:27:36 Speaker 2: cabal through their human representatives that are most likely hybrids,

1:27:41 Speaker 2: giving all of these worldwide contracts to all these companies

1:27:45 Speaker 2: that for since the sixties have been reverse engineering, helping

1:27:50 Speaker 2: build our space force, and all of this stuff that's

1:27:54 Speaker 2: going on is all above the level of your government.

1:27:58 Speaker 2: So if you're looking for you at your government, if

1:28:00 Speaker 2: you're looking at the American government or any government that

1:28:03 Speaker 2: you're a part of, Canadian wherever you live, if you're

1:28:06 Speaker 2: looking for your government to give your disclosure, you're kind

1:28:10 Speaker 2: of aiming your eyes at the wrong entity. You're not

1:28:15 Speaker 2: going to get it from your government. They're not going

1:28:17 Speaker 2: to open suddenly a museum of seventy years worth of

1:28:22 Speaker 2: alien interactions. Go, here's all the flying saucers. We've been

1:28:25 Speaker 2: reverse to engineering. We're sorry we did that. They don't

1:28:27 Speaker 2: have any incentive to do that. There's no incentive. They

1:28:30 Speaker 2: don't care about what humans think about their company. If

1:28:35 Speaker 2: McDonald Douglas, or if you know Lockheed Martin is a

1:28:39 Speaker 2: good company or not, They could care less. They're off

1:28:42 Speaker 2: world with our cabal mining on other planets. I'm just

1:28:45 Speaker 2: saying that all of the stuff that has been occurring

1:28:48 Speaker 2: in our lifetimes with alien traded technologies, it's now so

1:28:56 Speaker 2: vast that we're off world with it. Obviously, we have

1:28:59 Speaker 2: a secret space program, not only for the Air Force,

1:29:02 Speaker 2: but for the Navy. There's a marine secret space program,

1:29:06 Speaker 2: and it's been out there in space since the early eighties.

1:29:11 Speaker 2: Now forty to fifty years later. Where do you think

1:29:15 Speaker 2: it is? It's beyond your imagination, Like you can think

1:29:19 Speaker 2: anything you want, and the technologies that are out there

1:29:22 Speaker 2: being used by citizens from our planet are far beyond

1:29:28 Speaker 2: even the shows that we see created with Star Wars

1:29:31 Speaker 2: and Star Trek. All of that stuff is available and

1:29:34 Speaker 2: has been available to us, but we don't have access

1:29:37 Speaker 2: to it. We pay for it through these unacknowledged special

1:29:41 Speaker 2: access programs. It's funneled from American taxpayer money, at least

1:29:46 Speaker 2: the American part of it is. All the other countries

1:29:49 Speaker 2: have their money funnel too. It all goes to the

1:29:51 Speaker 2: cabal for all of this reverse engineered technology, for all

1:29:56 Speaker 2: this control of humanity. So I'm just saying, be careful

1:30:03 Speaker 2: putting all your energy onto c SPAN and expecting your

1:30:06 Speaker 2: government to step forward and go, We're now going to

1:30:09 Speaker 2: open the alien museum. That's not going to happen. They

1:30:11 Speaker 2: have no incentive to do that. They could care less

1:30:14 Speaker 2: about humanity. They're off world, they're thinking about other planets,

1:30:18 Speaker 2: they're they're they're all about power and control or just

1:30:22 Speaker 2: likely Yeah it's reptilian.

1:30:24 Speaker 1: Yeah, just I mean just look at look at look

1:30:27 Speaker 1: in the eyes of Peter Teel when he's asked about

1:30:30 Speaker 1: whether humanity should exist, and he he can't even bring

1:30:36 Speaker 1: himself to say yes, just without hesitation. He like, he's

1:30:43 Speaker 1: did you see that interview?

1:30:44 Speaker 2: I haven't seen that there is supposedly a reptilian or something.

1:30:49 Speaker 2: I don't know, he's some form of alien or something.

1:30:52 Speaker 1: He the guy's doing so on one hand, right, he's creating,

1:30:58 Speaker 1: you know, creates PayPal with elon on, then goes on

1:31:02 Speaker 1: and and uh it becomes a venture capitalist and is

1:31:07 Speaker 1: funding pallenteer and and and has countless defense contracts for

1:31:14 Speaker 1: surveillance and and and weapons systems with our military. And

1:31:18 Speaker 1: then on the same that same guy has has a

1:31:23 Speaker 1: four part lecture that he's doing on the Antichrist because

1:31:28 Speaker 1: he's totally not the Antichrist, right, who, like Tim Dillon

1:31:34 Speaker 1: said it on Rogan, Like, why didn't anyone sit him

1:31:38 Speaker 1: down and say how about no, how about no lectures

1:31:43 Speaker 1: on the Antichrist? Because it makes you look crazy because

1:31:48 Speaker 1: it's like, again, this is the same guy who's got

1:31:50 Speaker 1: these bloodshot eyes and can't can't express any human like

1:31:58 Speaker 1: if there's someone who's possessed or an alien, or like

1:32:02 Speaker 1: if they're if they are in disguise, that guy's one

1:32:05 Speaker 1: of them.

1:32:06 Speaker 2: So is.

1:32:08 Speaker 1: Yeah, you've really never seen this clip.

1:32:12 Speaker 2: I haven't seen that. I mean, I'm I'm I'm slightly

1:32:15 Speaker 2: busy with having just finished the novel and then all

1:32:19 Speaker 2: the yeah, and I don't you know, I'm not on

1:32:22 Speaker 2: media at all because I'm so focused on really doing

1:32:28 Speaker 2: heavy duty research to bring something in Hush. I And

1:32:31 Speaker 2: I'll tell you something about Hush that I haven't told

1:32:35 Speaker 2: every show, I tell you that elusive Yeah, it's I

1:32:41 Speaker 2: tell Lincoln, my partner, about this. He's my He's the

1:32:45 Speaker 2: one who kind of keeps me afloat with all the

1:32:48 Speaker 2: different shows that I'm I'm scheduled to be on here

1:32:50 Speaker 2: and he runs my publishing company. But I tell him

1:32:54 Speaker 2: once in a while because it's a thing that he

1:32:58 Speaker 2: now sees occurring. I wrote Hush, but in all my writing,

1:33:04 Speaker 2: of all my stories and screenplays over many years, all

1:33:09 Speaker 2: I can say is that Hush was directed and not

1:33:18 Speaker 2: written by AI. I'm just saying that when I wrote it,

1:33:23 Speaker 2: the stuff that was coming through was clearly beyond me.

1:33:28 Speaker 1: Means.

1:33:28 Speaker 2: So when you're reading Hush, all I can say is

1:33:32 Speaker 2: I believe there's a benevolent element. It may be me,

1:33:37 Speaker 2: but it's hard for me to step in as for

1:33:40 Speaker 2: all of us to say, well, maybe I'm just the

1:33:44 Speaker 2: conduit for All I can say is, when you're reading Hush,

1:33:48 Speaker 2: you're reading what the Committee wants you to know. I

1:33:50 Speaker 2: call it the Committee. But there seems to be so

1:33:54 Speaker 2: much information that came through on this that I couldn't

1:33:57 Speaker 2: have come up with on my own, where I'm just

1:33:59 Speaker 2: saying it's been directed to give it as a gift

1:34:04 Speaker 2: to humanity. That's all I can tell you.

1:34:07 Speaker 1: Well, I don't think you're the first to ever say

1:34:10 Speaker 1: something like that. M H like you know the muse, right,

1:34:16 Speaker 1: Tesla Einstein, Mozart, Many, many people from all different walks

1:34:26 Speaker 1: of life seem to me a lot of times musicians

1:34:32 Speaker 1: as well. And I think that's it's it's ironic that

1:34:36 Speaker 1: the root word for musician is the muse, right or amuse, mint,

1:34:40 Speaker 1: the muse. It's that idea of pulling from like pulling

1:34:46 Speaker 1: from the one, the source. And it's you know, as

1:34:51 Speaker 1: a writer, as a musician, they say that it's you're

1:34:55 Speaker 1: the vessel and the universe is working through you put

1:35:00 Speaker 1: time to paper or to put music into you know,

1:35:04 Speaker 1: whatever they injected into society. So this is not new, right,

1:35:11 Speaker 1: this is not new. And so do you think that

1:35:16 Speaker 1: the universe wrote hush in a way.

1:35:21 Speaker 2: Or I would definitely say love wrote it.

1:35:25 Speaker 1: Love?

1:35:27 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean the universe to me, Well, let's

1:35:30 Speaker 2: put it this way. The human body and the universe

1:35:34 Speaker 2: came from love, not love from the universe and the

1:35:38 Speaker 2: human body. I'll tell you that as an absolute. M

1:35:42 Speaker 2: I'll say it again, the human body and the universe

1:35:47 Speaker 2: came from love, not love from the human body and

1:35:53 Speaker 2: the universe. That's an absolute. It all comes from love. Yeah.

1:35:59 Speaker 1: I'm trying to pull up I really, I just I

1:36:03 Speaker 1: desperately need you to see this.

1:36:04 Speaker 2: Now you're going to bring up the clip.

1:36:07 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that because it scares me.

1:36:12 Speaker 2: Man, But even before I see the clip, I'll tell

1:36:16 Speaker 2: you something ty that I think is important. Remember I

1:36:19 Speaker 2: told you that the cabal works both sides of the coin,

1:36:22 Speaker 2: and the best job they can do is to keep

1:36:25 Speaker 2: you in the mail. You of being confused, and so

1:36:30 Speaker 2: if you're biting on a clip like that, they've got

1:36:34 Speaker 2: you really good today. Just don't let them. Just remember,

1:36:38 Speaker 2: yeah to this moment, Just remember you know what's right.

1:36:42 Speaker 2: You'll know what's right, what's real, right, start with your

1:36:47 Speaker 2: heart and go. Do I even need to consider this clip?

1:36:51 Speaker 2: Does it matter if I can identify one person as

1:36:53 Speaker 2: a reptil or not? Probably? Not? Is it just cabal

1:36:58 Speaker 2: making me spend on this one entity that his eyes

1:37:01 Speaker 2: are bloodshot and I'm thinking he's alien and he doesn't

1:37:04 Speaker 2: say that the human race should be saved? Really, just

1:37:07 Speaker 2: do you see what I'm saying? Like you're so powerful

1:37:11 Speaker 2: with your show and everything else, I'm just saying, try

1:37:16 Speaker 2: to And I see the clip here that the guy

1:37:19 Speaker 2: is going to start speaking, right, I'm just saying that

1:37:22 Speaker 2: to me. No matter what occurs with this guy speaking,

1:37:26 Speaker 2: I can already tell you that it is part of

1:37:29 Speaker 2: that's not Peter it's part of the hoodwink. I'm just saying.

1:37:32 Speaker 2: I'm just saying be aware that when you when you

1:37:34 Speaker 2: get spun off on Indy given thing like flat Earth

1:37:37 Speaker 2: or anything else, exactly, that's exactly what the cabal wants

1:37:41 Speaker 2: you to do. Is not focused on what's real coming

1:37:45 Speaker 2: at you, right.

1:37:46 Speaker 1: You know, it's funny when you brought up inner Earth.

1:37:49 Speaker 1: I the the podcast right before You're You was with

1:37:55 Speaker 1: with John Dover, the paranormal ranger. Uh so he was

1:38:00 Speaker 1: He's a part of the Navajo, and so the Navajo

1:38:05 Speaker 1: Tribal Police, the tribe, the Navo tribe essentially created a

1:38:14 Speaker 1: division that would investigate the paranormal along with other duties

1:38:20 Speaker 1: of course. But and he told me this story last

1:38:25 Speaker 1: week about how their origin story, the Navajo creation myth

1:38:34 Speaker 1: was them coming through like these dimensionalities, and and it

1:38:41 Speaker 1: almost but it gave me and it gave me this

1:38:43 Speaker 1: idea because the way he kept saying it was like

1:38:45 Speaker 1: they kept being brought up through different worlds. But could

1:38:49 Speaker 1: those worlds have been actually dimensionalities like you're talking about

1:38:53 Speaker 1: the these dimensions? And he said it would always feel

1:38:56 Speaker 1: like the sky would open up above and then'd be

1:39:00 Speaker 1: this next world and it sounds like it doesn't sound

1:39:03 Speaker 1: like you're coming through dimensions. It sounds like you're coming

1:39:05 Speaker 1: through the earth into you know, into the final world

1:39:10 Speaker 1: where we're at the surface. So when you when you

1:39:14 Speaker 1: were saying that, I was like, oh, that sounds really familiar.

1:39:17 Speaker 1: And then I was like, where did you know that

1:39:19 Speaker 1: came from? That? So, yeah, that was really odd tangent

1:39:23 Speaker 1: but m hm, so just take a look at this

1:39:26 Speaker 1: this And by the way, this guy, Peter Tiel is

1:39:31 Speaker 1: also financing certain UFO content creators.

1:39:37 Speaker 2: Okay, just wanted to let you.

1:39:40 Speaker 1: Know, right, Uh, well, yes, I don't know on that

1:39:47 Speaker 1: back a lit, I think we missed it. I would

1:39:51 Speaker 1: he can't answer a very very simple question. Mm hmm.

1:39:58 Speaker 4: You would prefer the human race to and do right?

1:40:01 Speaker 4: Uh huh, you're hesitant? Well, yes, I would.

1:40:07 Speaker 1: He looks.

1:40:09 Speaker 4: This is a long hesitation, so long hesitation. There's so

1:40:12 Speaker 4: many questions in the human race survive? Yeah, what like what.

1:40:24 Speaker 1: He can't The only answer is yes, no hesitation. Right.

1:40:29 Speaker 1: But he's and that's the guy that's doing a four

1:40:32 Speaker 1: part series in Silicon Valley about the Antichrist, and he's

1:40:35 Speaker 1: also running Pallenteer, which is arguably you know, uh, an

1:40:41 Speaker 1: evil company of So just what what when you talk

1:40:47 Speaker 1: about like infiltration at the top level, that's what I

1:40:53 Speaker 1: think about. Okay, that's who I mean.

1:40:57 Speaker 2: I think that you know. Again, I'll just say, like,

1:41:02 Speaker 2: you only have so much energy, so be aware how

1:41:06 Speaker 2: much you spin off. Let's just say on that particular character,

1:41:10 Speaker 2: what's occurring to you that you're spending so much time

1:41:15 Speaker 2: because it feels good to say he's bad, because then

1:41:19 Speaker 2: you can say, you know, he should automatically say humanity

1:41:22 Speaker 2: should be and you put all this energy into like

1:41:25 Speaker 2: driving at him, right, But he's not the real deal.

1:41:30 Speaker 2: It's kind of like focusing your energy on Congress and going,

1:41:33 Speaker 2: why aren't they telling us this? When you have to

1:41:36 Speaker 2: put your sites higher and realize it's not Congress, it's

1:41:39 Speaker 2: not the US government that's deceiving you. There are players

1:41:43 Speaker 2: within the government that do deceive you. Oh yeah, but

1:41:46 Speaker 2: there's players within every government that are being controlled from

1:41:49 Speaker 2: the top, so that you have to look at the

1:41:53 Speaker 2: entity above all governments. Yeah, and to remember that that

1:41:58 Speaker 2: entity plays both side. So they're going to put this

1:42:01 Speaker 2: guy on a podcast and get you all fired up

1:42:04 Speaker 2: to the point that you bring it up with one

1:42:06 Speaker 2: of your guests, And I'm just saying, ty, how it's

1:42:09 Speaker 2: cool that you can say it. Well, if I got

1:42:11 Speaker 2: a point to one guy that he's infiltrated in that

1:42:14 Speaker 2: is a reptilian dude and he's doing all wrong. I

1:42:17 Speaker 2: don't know a thing about him. My point is is

1:42:20 Speaker 2: that do I need to put energy into him? Do

1:42:23 Speaker 2: I really care? I mean I can.

1:42:25 Speaker 3: I can.

1:42:26 Speaker 2: I can name anybody as bad and try to defend

1:42:30 Speaker 2: it on any show, right, But what is you only

1:42:35 Speaker 2: get so much time on this passage in this avatar, right,

1:42:41 Speaker 2: and you have this amazing show and you have all

1:42:43 Speaker 2: these listeners. Are you going to spend off for an

1:42:46 Speaker 2: hour on flat Earth stuff? I would say if most

1:42:49 Speaker 2: of the Secret Space people that go off world look

1:42:51 Speaker 2: back and go, it looks pretty darn round to me.

1:42:54 Speaker 2: And that's the end of that, right. I'm just saying so,

1:42:58 Speaker 2: just as we wouldn't spin off on that, perhaps be

1:43:02 Speaker 2: aware now, as you're stepping into this evolution with all

1:43:06 Speaker 2: of us, as you're coming into yourself as full love,

1:43:10 Speaker 2: what is important in this show? What can I give

1:43:14 Speaker 2: to my listeners that is driving an accurate agenda? Am

1:43:19 Speaker 2: I going to spin off on flat our folks, probably not.

1:43:23 Speaker 2: And just like that, I'm just saying, even with this guy,

1:43:27 Speaker 2: he gives you lots of stuff to bite on and

1:43:29 Speaker 2: get mad about and feel, and you feel good about

1:43:31 Speaker 2: yourself because you're not the bad guy with the bad company. Really,

1:43:37 Speaker 2: isn't there something else that's like way more beneficial?

1:43:41 Speaker 1: Yeah?

1:43:43 Speaker 2: For you and for your listeners to go, wait a minute,

1:43:46 Speaker 2: you know, let's ponder that if we could figure out

1:43:49 Speaker 2: how to contact some of these secret space people. Have

1:43:53 Speaker 2: JP on your show, who has these experiences where he's

1:43:56 Speaker 2: just going to tell you, I can only tell you

1:43:58 Speaker 2: what my experiences are, and he's having below inner Earth experiences.

1:44:03 Speaker 2: Have Emory Smith on your show to where he's talking

1:44:06 Speaker 2: about I'm looking at ground penetrating radars showing our Earth

1:44:11 Speaker 2: and it doesn't stop when it hits the target. It

1:44:13 Speaker 2: keeps going. You'll find it in Hush. You'll find a

1:44:17 Speaker 2: lot of these situations are covered in Hush in a

1:44:22 Speaker 2: fictional story. But it may be even as hard as

1:44:26 Speaker 2: it is to read Hush, because a lot of it

1:44:28 Speaker 2: is dark about what's going on currently on the planet

1:44:31 Speaker 2: and offworld. It may be your actual reality, not that

1:44:37 Speaker 2: it's not going to get awesome as we step into

1:44:39 Speaker 2: who we are. I'm just saying, we have to understand

1:44:43 Speaker 2: where we are today and the intensity of who's got

1:44:48 Speaker 2: the grips on our planet right now and the stuff

1:44:51 Speaker 2: that's going on, so that we can understand clearly as

1:44:55 Speaker 2: we step forward, as we step into our destiny as love,

1:45:00 Speaker 2: because they are failing, the ones that control us now

1:45:04 Speaker 2: are failing, They're disappearing, and it's kind of up to

1:45:08 Speaker 2: us to go, how are we going to set this up?

1:45:12 Speaker 2: Because that's what's coming. It is coming right now. Right,

1:45:15 Speaker 2: it's a pretty exciting time. Not that it won't be rough,

1:45:18 Speaker 2: but it's it's an exciting time.

1:45:20 Speaker 1: Yeah, So what do you what do you make of

1:45:23 Speaker 1: the idea of uh, you know, like the idea of

1:45:29 Speaker 1: Atlantis and and.

1:45:33 Speaker 2: I believe I believe all I believe all of those

1:45:37 Speaker 2: cities were real, and I believe my experience. Again, you

1:45:41 Speaker 2: can read The Dark Fleet. That's a really great book

1:45:43 Speaker 2: for and the author's name escapes me right now, but

1:45:46 Speaker 2: it's an amazing book. He talks a lot about our

1:45:50 Speaker 2: history with the Reptilians and how they were here before

1:45:53 Speaker 2: all humanity and when Atlanta was Atlantis was here. It

1:45:57 Speaker 2: was I think much larger far as I recall much

1:46:01 Speaker 2: larger size humans that occupied Atlantis. But in my impression,

1:46:06 Speaker 2: everything just like you said earlier, that we get in

1:46:09 Speaker 2: mythical tales and this, that and the other, it's all

1:46:11 Speaker 2: based on the real thing. I believe Atlantis was an

1:46:14 Speaker 2: actual city and area of civilization. I believe it was

1:46:18 Speaker 2: drowned at some point in the floods that were brought

1:46:22 Speaker 2: on Again, you can read that about that. I don't

1:46:25 Speaker 2: cover that in Hush, but in the Dark Fleet he

1:46:28 Speaker 2: goes very deeply into his historical research. Is most likely

1:46:33 Speaker 2: this is what occurred because of these continental plates, the

1:46:35 Speaker 2: Reptilians were here, they were afraid of this group, they

1:46:39 Speaker 2: flooded the area, et cetera. I mean, he kind of

1:46:41 Speaker 2: goes into it pretty clearly. It felt real to me.

1:46:45 Speaker 2: So I believe all of this stuff, all of the

1:46:51 Speaker 2: Egyptian lore, I mean, every Sanskrit thing, I think it

1:46:55 Speaker 2: all comes from something that's occurred here, and a lot

1:46:57 Speaker 2: of it has to do with aliens being here on

1:47:00 Speaker 2: the planet long before humans and interacting with whatever it

1:47:04 Speaker 2: was here at that time.

1:47:06 Speaker 1: Interesting And isn't it interesting that, you know, because I

1:47:11 Speaker 1: don't think a lot of people realize, like, what would

1:47:14 Speaker 1: have happened had the dinosaurs not been wiped out? Like,

1:47:18 Speaker 1: because we would not have been able to survive on

1:47:20 Speaker 1: a planet that had dinosaurs, like we could not cohabitate

1:47:25 Speaker 1: with with dinosaurs. We would not have survived and became

1:47:30 Speaker 1: the dominant species. So what if that if let let's

1:47:37 Speaker 1: just say, okay, there's a reset on the Earth. I

1:47:39 Speaker 1: don't know if it happens naturally or it's a it's

1:47:42 Speaker 1: a cosmic uh cleansing, you know, like the asteroid does

1:47:47 Speaker 1: hit and right, but it doesn't it seem like we

1:47:51 Speaker 1: if you ever think about what if that asteroid didn't hit?

1:47:55 Speaker 1: What if they didn't get wiped out? What would they

1:47:57 Speaker 1: have been? Would you know? Because people we talked about tillions.

1:48:00 Speaker 2: Like So from what I understand, the reptilians brought the

1:48:05 Speaker 2: dinosaurs with them because they needed a food source because

1:48:08 Speaker 2: humans weren't here yet. Okay, now take it to the

1:48:14 Speaker 2: next level. What we know now about reptilians and harvesting.

1:48:20 Speaker 2: The very early deal they did with the Nazis is

1:48:23 Speaker 2: we want two hundred and twenty five of your race

1:48:29 Speaker 2: for food, and in exchange, we'll give you these ships

1:48:32 Speaker 2: that was the very first contract. So think about that

1:48:37 Speaker 2: for a second. The Nazis were willing to go right,

1:48:42 Speaker 2: you want two hundred and twenty five of our best

1:48:46 Speaker 2: for what and they weren't told what it was for.

1:48:49 Speaker 2: And then eventually, you know, they find out, Oh my god,

1:48:51 Speaker 2: they ate them. Okay, So just think about this. We

1:48:55 Speaker 2: eat cow every day, we have hamburgers, we go to McDonald's.

1:48:58 Speaker 2: We don't ask cows if it's okay. We terminate them

1:49:03 Speaker 2: and eat them. We don't ask. Reptilians are millions and

1:49:07 Speaker 2: perhaps billions of years older than us, an older race

1:49:11 Speaker 2: that travels throughout the multiverse. They have to eat. They

1:49:17 Speaker 2: eat meat. Humans are a good source. And on top

1:49:21 Speaker 2: of that, humans in mortal danger. The body creates a drenochrome,

1:49:26 Speaker 2: which in the book I call screamshit. It is the

1:49:30 Speaker 2: ultimate drug in the multiverse. It is the most expensive

1:49:34 Speaker 2: drug out in the trade routes. It's known well, there

1:49:37 Speaker 2: are harvesting facilities on the back side of the Moon.

1:49:40 Speaker 2: There are harvesting facilities throughout the Earth. It's an awful thing.

1:49:45 Speaker 2: But it happens that humans are exceptionally rare in the universe,

1:49:52 Speaker 2: and we are the source of that drug.

1:49:57 Speaker 1: Oh wow, I've never.

1:50:03 Speaker 2: The book's tough. It'll bring up some really harsh stuff

1:50:06 Speaker 2: that's in actuality now.

1:50:07 Speaker 1: So that's pretty wild though, And that's but that is

1:50:12 Speaker 1: kind of what I was. Uh it at least touches

1:50:15 Speaker 1: on what I was, what I brought up earlier being

1:50:18 Speaker 1: we need to be careful when it comes to what

1:50:22 Speaker 1: is malevolent versus indifferent because again, we're not evil because

1:50:27 Speaker 1: we eat cow, right, but we also don't ask them

1:50:30 Speaker 1: for their permission. So there's a difference between indifference and

1:50:35 Speaker 1: being truly malevolent, like we're not. We don't hate cows, no,

1:50:39 Speaker 1: we don't, like we don't hate chickens. In fact, people

1:50:43 Speaker 1: have chickens that love their chickens, right, but they also

1:50:46 Speaker 1: eat them. So again there's this fine line where we

1:50:52 Speaker 1: might see indifference as malevolence and we need to step

1:50:55 Speaker 1: back and.

1:50:57 Speaker 2: Right where we tell ourselves, oh, we do it and

1:50:59 Speaker 2: it's it's not bad the way we do it, but

1:51:01 Speaker 2: if someone eats us, then we say that's bad. But

1:51:05 Speaker 2: you know, at the end of the day, each entity

1:51:08 Speaker 2: has to have energy. So I mean reptilians mainly feed

1:51:14 Speaker 2: on lush, you know, which is kind of the energy

1:51:16 Speaker 2: of us, whether it's good lush or bad lushe. They

1:51:20 Speaker 2: feed on that. If there's an eclipse and a bunch

1:51:23 Speaker 2: of humans are together, going wow, that's lush. And that

1:51:28 Speaker 2: is fed on by several alien races that I'm aware of.

1:51:31 Speaker 2: They feed on that energy. They can literally kind of

1:51:36 Speaker 2: come back to life, and without it they can die.

1:51:38 Speaker 2: And that includes the reptilians, but the reptilians on the

1:51:41 Speaker 2: dark side of energy also feed on when humans are

1:51:45 Speaker 2: in mortal danger. Hence you have adrenochrome created. Hence you

1:51:51 Speaker 2: have the Fountain of youth because you don't age if

1:51:54 Speaker 2: you take adrenochrome daily comes in a little vile. You

1:51:58 Speaker 2: saw it in the movie and Loathing with Johnny Depp.

1:52:01 Speaker 2: It's the first time it appears on screen and he's

1:52:05 Speaker 2: putting a few drops on his tongue and he's like,

1:52:07 Speaker 2: this is this all? This is crazy. That's a drenochrome

1:52:12 Speaker 2: that's created from humans. That's why I call it screamshit.

1:52:16 Speaker 2: When humans are screaming, they secrete adrenochrome into the pineal

1:52:20 Speaker 2: gland and it can be extracted, and that's where you

1:52:24 Speaker 2: will find a lot of the alien abduction events where

1:52:30 Speaker 2: people talk about they put a needle through my eye,

1:52:33 Speaker 2: and I wouldn't remember it. I wouldn't remember it the

1:52:37 Speaker 2: next day. The tragic thing is, and I won't go

1:52:40 Speaker 2: into it. I'm just saying it's the most sought after

1:52:45 Speaker 2: drug in the multiverse. It is traded in the trade

1:52:50 Speaker 2: routes in space. It is the thing that anyone will

1:52:55 Speaker 2: trade technology for, including humans. Humans will trade if they're

1:53:02 Speaker 2: part of the cabal or a malevant, malevolent section of

1:53:05 Speaker 2: humans will offer humans in exchange for alien technology. So

1:53:11 Speaker 2: that's where you'll read in Hush. There's some dark things

1:53:13 Speaker 2: that are in there. I want to be clear that

1:53:16 Speaker 2: Hush is it. You will find that it ends with

1:53:21 Speaker 2: you understanding our current state might not be great, but

1:53:25 Speaker 2: there is a bright future ahead for us if we

1:53:28 Speaker 2: choose it. But right now we're kind of in the

1:53:31 Speaker 2: grips of some pretty dark stuff. We'll be fine in

1:53:35 Speaker 2: the long run, but there are things happening around you

1:53:38 Speaker 2: that have been happening for a long time that are

1:53:42 Speaker 2: really tough to read about. But it may be your

1:53:46 Speaker 2: actual reality and we need to not be afraid of.

1:53:53 Speaker 1: Like that. I understand what you're saying, right is, it's hard,

1:53:57 Speaker 1: but again it's it's reality, then we can't we can't

1:54:02 Speaker 1: put our heads in the sand. We need to know

1:54:06 Speaker 1: because what we just we need to know it's reality.

1:54:11 Speaker 1: If that's reality, then we need to be able to

1:54:14 Speaker 1: look out for it and to to be able to,

1:54:16 Speaker 1: you know, protect against it. I don't know, do you think?

1:54:21 Speaker 1: So there are these things, there's these groups that people

1:54:25 Speaker 1: run like see five. I'm sure you've heard of it

1:54:28 Speaker 1: where because you said when people get together and look up,

1:54:33 Speaker 1: they that that's where this loose stuff comes from. When

1:54:39 Speaker 1: they're when they're doing CE five and they're getting in

1:54:42 Speaker 1: groups of sometimes you know, whether it's five people are

1:54:47 Speaker 1: up to one hundred and two hundred, like with doctor Greer,

1:54:53 Speaker 1: do they have to be careful about who they're they're

1:54:56 Speaker 1: calling in?

1:55:00 Speaker 2: My impression is you're not. You're not calling in anyone.

1:55:02 Speaker 2: You're just having a human experience. But the aliens can

1:55:05 Speaker 2: feed off of it. Wherever there is loosh energy anywhere

1:55:08 Speaker 2: on the planet. They it's literally think of it like

1:55:11 Speaker 2: it looks to them like a liquid. They can just

1:55:13 Speaker 2: suck it in, so it's it's it's expunged or gorge.

1:55:19 Speaker 2: What do you call it? X goorge? What's that word?

1:55:21 Speaker 2: Where you, when you where you x gorge anyway. It's

1:55:25 Speaker 2: like energy is just waves right going up and it

1:55:28 Speaker 2: can be good on no, okay, excrete you could say

1:55:31 Speaker 2: that anyway. I think someone will say exgorged, Michael, but

1:55:35 Speaker 2: there is a word like it just slips me right now.

1:55:38 Speaker 2: But the point is is that whenever you're you know,

1:55:40 Speaker 2: if you're with your family and you're having a moment

1:55:43 Speaker 2: of love, you're looking at a new baby, that's a

1:55:46 Speaker 2: new addition or something. Anytime there's wonderful around you, loosh

1:55:53 Speaker 2: is there. That's energy that can be fed on by

1:55:56 Speaker 2: alien races who literally feed off of it, and they

1:56:02 Speaker 2: can feed off of the dark energy as well that's

1:56:06 Speaker 2: given off by humans, and you can't control who's going

1:56:10 Speaker 2: to take that energy. It's kind of like when you're

1:56:12 Speaker 2: in a group and everybody's feeling good and there's a

1:56:14 Speaker 2: lot of love going around. You don't control where it goes.

1:56:17 Speaker 2: You're just like, ah, I'm with my friends, my mom,

1:56:20 Speaker 2: I'm with I'm in love, this is it, I'm in it,

1:56:23 Speaker 2: this is killer. You don't control where it goes. It's

1:56:27 Speaker 2: it's it's across the multiverse. It's not around you. It's everywhere.

1:56:33 Speaker 2: You're sending out a frequency, right, so that frequency can

1:56:38 Speaker 2: be picked up on and absorbed. And it is. And

1:56:42 Speaker 2: the reptilians are known to feed off of loosh. Not

1:56:47 Speaker 2: just the Reptilians, many alien races who are who many

1:56:51 Speaker 2: of them from what I understand, are AI. There's no

1:56:54 Speaker 2: there's no heart, there's no soul, but they feed. They

1:56:59 Speaker 2: can somehow how that loose gives them energy, whether it's

1:57:02 Speaker 2: good loose or bad lush so to speak, they can

1:57:06 Speaker 2: literally thrive off of it.

1:57:08 Speaker 1: Wow. So and yeah, that that is a very that's complicated,

1:57:19 Speaker 1: very complicated.

1:57:20 Speaker 2: It's my job to once in a while, Tyler bring

1:57:23 Speaker 2: you something complicated that you get to know what And

1:57:25 Speaker 2: the heck was he talking about?

1:57:27 Speaker 1: Well, I mean it would explain certain things. It would

1:57:32 Speaker 1: explain why, you know, uh, like when people gather and

1:57:41 Speaker 1: there's a power. There's a power to that, right, And

1:57:45 Speaker 1: it's it's like if if if consciousness is the signal

1:57:52 Speaker 1: and the brain is the receiver, and you have all

1:57:54 Speaker 1: these receivers right in one area, the signal would be

1:58:01 Speaker 1: very very strong coming in And could that be something

1:58:06 Speaker 1: that it could be able to be manipulated or leveraged

1:58:11 Speaker 1: for instance. So these are the things that I start

1:58:13 Speaker 1: wondering when you talk about that.

1:58:15 Speaker 2: So let me give you an example. Let's just say

1:58:17 Speaker 2: this is for fun. Let's say that an alien race

1:58:26 Speaker 2: has done a contractual obligation with the Cabal and they're

1:58:29 Speaker 2: coming here and they want to go. Let's just say

1:58:32 Speaker 2: they want to take over the old Base two eleven

1:58:35 Speaker 2: in Antarctica. They need a space away from humans where

1:58:38 Speaker 2: they can be their alien, malevolent selves kind of in

1:58:42 Speaker 2: a safe area, right, and they're coming to the planet.

1:58:46 Speaker 2: Now for them to arrive on the planet, they need energy,

1:58:50 Speaker 2: So this is what they do. They talk to the

1:58:53 Speaker 2: Cabal and they say, look, put out a few years

1:58:57 Speaker 2: in advance that there's going to be a moon eclipse

1:59:02 Speaker 2: of the Sun. So just put that out, Okay, So

1:59:05 Speaker 2: everybody gets all excited. Now this may have just happened

1:59:07 Speaker 2: a few months ago, but I just want you to

1:59:08 Speaker 2: consider that it's all just the idea of what I'm

1:59:11 Speaker 2: trying to express here. So let's just say that humans

1:59:15 Speaker 2: are like, man, there's a moon eclipse coming. The moon

1:59:19 Speaker 2: is going to cover the Sun. We got to watch it.

1:59:22 Speaker 2: And let's just say that millions of people get in

1:59:25 Speaker 2: the right spot to watch that moon eclipse. But what

1:59:29 Speaker 2: if that moon was actually the alien ship and for

1:59:33 Speaker 2: them to come onto the planet, they needed Loosh to

1:59:38 Speaker 2: do the final passage into the orbit of Earth and

1:59:43 Speaker 2: land on Earth to take over their portion of Antarctica. Well,

1:59:49 Speaker 2: if that occurred and everybody was staring up, which just

1:59:52 Speaker 2: occurred not too long ago, and if everyone's staring up

1:59:56 Speaker 2: and going wow, it's a moon eclipse and they're not

1:59:59 Speaker 2: aware that it's not a moon. This is a cabal

2:00:03 Speaker 2: driven complete hoodwink. Because the cabal is saying, yeah, come,

2:00:10 Speaker 2: we'll work with you here on the planet. We want

2:00:13 Speaker 2: you here, and the alien group is saying, we can't

2:00:16 Speaker 2: arrive without a lot of lush, without a lot of

2:00:19 Speaker 2: energy to bring us into the orbit to get us

2:00:22 Speaker 2: on the planet. How would you do it? You'd do

2:00:25 Speaker 2: it just like that.

2:00:28 Speaker 1: That is Ah.

2:00:31 Speaker 2: I'm just saying it's an example. It may not be

2:00:33 Speaker 2: your actual reality, but I'm just saying that's the level

2:00:37 Speaker 2: of things that you want to be looking at. Okay, Well,

2:00:40 Speaker 2: make make sure that the moon eclipse from a few

2:00:43 Speaker 2: months ago is accurate. Talk to Avi Love and say

2:00:47 Speaker 2: avy was the moon even close to the sun really

2:00:52 Speaker 2: on that day? Could you please go into that for me?

2:00:55 Speaker 2: And Avy may say, damn, it wasn't a moon eclipse.

2:01:02 Speaker 2: Well that one. Because now you're friends with Ave, you

2:01:06 Speaker 2: can call him, just check in with him. Say Abby,

2:01:08 Speaker 2: can you just read go back and do a little

2:01:10 Speaker 2: calculation here, because I have some information that maybe what

2:01:13 Speaker 2: occurred was a much bigger hoodwink than we know and

2:01:18 Speaker 2: take a look at what occurred on the moon eclipse

2:01:21 Speaker 2: day near Antarctica. There's a lot of information about South

2:01:30 Speaker 2: Africa having crazy winds and crazy storms all during the

2:01:34 Speaker 2: moon eclipse. Why just that area of the globe having

2:01:38 Speaker 2: serious crazy waves. Could there have been alien ships arriving

2:01:42 Speaker 2: below the water. I'm just saying. I'm just saying there

2:01:48 Speaker 2: might be other actualities.

2:01:49 Speaker 1: Happening, right well, and.

2:01:53 Speaker 2: ABVI could look up the details. He's the one that

2:01:56 Speaker 2: can tell you absolutely no, the moon was in place

2:01:59 Speaker 2: for moonclips and that's what covered the moon, or that's

2:02:02 Speaker 2: what covered the sun. Or he might go oh dang,

2:02:07 Speaker 2: oh dang, right, because it's a it's a scientific fact.

2:02:11 Speaker 2: If the moon was in place to cover the Sun,

2:02:15 Speaker 2: I'm just saying something else may have occurred. Okay, Okay,

2:02:21 Speaker 2: that's fun. That's why I'm here, right, I gotta bring

2:02:25 Speaker 2: How can he know that? Maybe the committee let me

2:02:28 Speaker 2: know about that.

2:02:29 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, that that being said, three I out lists

2:02:36 Speaker 1: is something that and and I know it's not in

2:02:39 Speaker 1: an eclipse of the moon, but this interstellar object has

2:02:43 Speaker 1: got people really really riled up. Right now? What do

2:02:47 Speaker 1: you think about that? What? What do you think it is?

2:02:51 Speaker 1: Anything that they say it is you? Is it just

2:02:54 Speaker 1: a comment and there's really nothing to it.

2:02:58 Speaker 2: My impression, it's just my heart impression is that it's

2:03:02 Speaker 2: an alien intelligence. Whether it's malevolent or benevolent. I haven't

2:03:08 Speaker 2: put enough energy into it to sess it out. A

2:03:13 Speaker 2: gut feeling tells me that it's malevolent. Okay, And that's

2:03:19 Speaker 2: that's just when my when I I can drop into

2:03:22 Speaker 2: my heart pretty quick. I know they're starting to get

2:03:26 Speaker 2: I believe they're starting to get photographs. Well you kind

2:03:28 Speaker 2: of know if it's a Reptilian ship, even if it's gigantic,

2:03:31 Speaker 2: it will be triangular. So that's something to look for.

2:03:35 Speaker 2: All the Reptilion ships are triangular. That's that's their that's

2:03:39 Speaker 2: their calling guard interesting.

2:03:42 Speaker 1: Interesting, what so what is if there's if the veil

2:03:49 Speaker 1: was dropped, if the veil, Like, if if we were

2:03:53 Speaker 1: to find out everything tomorrow, let's say, yeah, what do

2:03:59 Speaker 1: you think that that would that truth would would liberate us?

2:04:03 Speaker 1: Or do you think it would destroy us?

2:04:07 Speaker 2: Do you mean? So rephrase the question so I understand

2:04:12 Speaker 2: exactly what you're asking.

2:04:13 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Okay, So, given what you're saying, if we

2:04:20 Speaker 1: were to find out tomorrow that there are these beings

2:04:24 Speaker 1: that feed off of our yeah, feed off revolution energy,

2:04:31 Speaker 1: and we are part of this much more cosmic uh

2:04:38 Speaker 1: cosmic ecosystem than we ever thought. Right now, we're battling

2:04:43 Speaker 1: like just the fact that are we alone, right, that's

2:04:46 Speaker 1: like the surface level, right to go from that to

2:04:51 Speaker 1: these things feed off of our energy. If that veil

2:04:55 Speaker 1: drops tomorrow, that's a very existential What is being dubbed

2:05:01 Speaker 1: is chaotic disclosure. So if that were to happen, do

2:05:06 Speaker 1: you think that that would liberate humans or would it

2:05:09 Speaker 1: destroy us? Or both?

2:05:15 Speaker 2: Okay, So nothing will destroy humans because human is just

2:05:21 Speaker 2: the name for the physical avatar of what we are.

2:05:25 Speaker 2: We're love, right, So to answer that part of it,

2:05:30 Speaker 2: humanity is an absolute, unstoppable force that will survive because

2:05:37 Speaker 2: what we really are is the energy of love. Right,

2:05:39 Speaker 2: These are just the avatars that will come and go

2:05:41 Speaker 2: for the millennia. But what we are is kind of

2:05:46 Speaker 2: this unspeakable force within the multiverse. We're it. Okay, we're

2:05:52 Speaker 2: kind of like a fractal of it, but we're it.

2:05:55 Speaker 2: We're the thing. So that answers that part of the question.

2:06:00 Speaker 2: And again I'm giving you my version of it, but

2:06:05 Speaker 2: I'll just tell you there's some good stuff there for you,

2:06:09 Speaker 2: all right. And then the second party of your question

2:06:12 Speaker 2: was what was would humanity we're going to survive? But

2:06:16 Speaker 2: what was the other part of your question?

2:06:18 Speaker 1: I guess, I guess really what it boils down to

2:06:22 Speaker 1: is if tomorrow we find out all of this right,

2:06:25 Speaker 1: it's all put out there right right, what would society

2:06:30 Speaker 1: move forward or would you know, would people commit would

2:06:35 Speaker 1: they on alive themselves?

2:06:37 Speaker 2: Would no? No, no, well, no, humanity will be fine. Certainly,

2:06:40 Speaker 2: there's gonna be a little chaos with you know. I mean,

2:06:43 Speaker 2: you have to remember that you've got the majority of

2:06:45 Speaker 2: the planet is religious based, and so for those folks

2:06:50 Speaker 2: to step ahead and realize, okay, wait a minute, my

2:06:53 Speaker 2: religion is based on something from two thousand years ago,

2:06:55 Speaker 2: and these characters that are now here arriving or that

2:06:59 Speaker 2: are actual reality of us being in space for many

2:07:03 Speaker 2: years and that we've been ranging ever outwards. But we're

2:07:06 Speaker 2: not we don't have we're not privy to it, but

2:07:09 Speaker 2: we as humans have been ranging ever outwards. Talk to

2:07:12 Speaker 2: any secret space program veteran Tony rod Rizal, all the

2:07:15 Speaker 2: folks who've been out there, They're like, I was there

2:07:17 Speaker 2: twenty years. I was in the secret space programs for

2:07:21 Speaker 2: twenty years. Remember, it's mind white technology that the Cabal

2:07:24 Speaker 2: used to make a race those memories, but it's glitching.

2:07:27 Speaker 2: It's not perfect. When it's amalgamated with the human system,

2:07:30 Speaker 2: the mind white technology is glitching. Hence all these people

2:07:33 Speaker 2: going to regression sessions going I'm having a completely different

2:07:37 Speaker 2: existence on this planet at this time with these individuals

2:07:41 Speaker 2: and these individual races and these spaceships, and Rebecca Roses

2:07:44 Speaker 2: over here going I'm having these and it's pretty soon

2:07:47 Speaker 2: they start intertwining and you're like, she's on the planet

2:07:51 Speaker 2: that he's on. They're all at the Lunar command when

2:07:53 Speaker 2: they're being regressed, they're all dealing with the same people

2:07:57 Speaker 2: and entities. And then you realize, oh, of course, if

2:08:02 Speaker 2: there's trillions of factions and people and versions of humans

2:08:08 Speaker 2: on a one planet, maybe not trillions, but billions. What's

2:08:14 Speaker 2: not just in our galaxy of life? What's not just

2:08:18 Speaker 2: in the trillions of galaxies that we can see? What's

2:08:23 Speaker 2: in the multiverse that we can't even multi dimensionally participate

2:08:27 Speaker 2: in yet because we haven't stepped into who we are,

2:08:31 Speaker 2: although we have access to it and we know it's there.

2:08:34 Speaker 2: We know this is a multiverse. Just think how many

2:08:41 Speaker 2: races are there. They're uncountable, and they're all around you

2:08:46 Speaker 2: and have been.

2:08:49 Speaker 1: Very very interesting. H Yeah.

2:08:58 Speaker 2: So if I'm just saying, if you do the math

2:09:02 Speaker 2: and you just go, wait a minute, just on our

2:09:03 Speaker 2: planet alone, we've got billions of people, We've got factions,

2:09:08 Speaker 2: we've got races, so many races, Just go, wait a minute.

2:09:14 Speaker 2: Just in our Solar System, We've got other planets, and

2:09:18 Speaker 2: there's perhaps life on those planets, like Mars, like a

2:09:22 Speaker 2: lot of life. Okay, now take it to the galactic level.

2:09:27 Speaker 2: We're a dot in the trillions of stars in the galaxy.

2:09:34 Speaker 1: I will agree with you there.

2:09:35 Speaker 2: Just do the mathematics, just do the probabilities. There is

2:09:39 Speaker 2: so much life teeming all around you and in your planet,

2:09:46 Speaker 2: so much that has already been seen by so many

2:09:49 Speaker 2: Secret Space Program personnel, so many people on guy A

2:09:52 Speaker 2: TV who've been working in dumbs, going, we're working with

2:09:55 Speaker 2: many aliens that we are dissecting, and we're doing this

2:09:57 Speaker 2: that Amory Smith is great, Just do the research that

2:10:03 Speaker 2: you've already been doing and go, oh my goodness, there's

2:10:07 Speaker 2: life everywhere and we're just now coming around to how

2:10:12 Speaker 2: hard we've been deceived.

2:10:16 Speaker 1: Do you think that? Do you think that?

2:10:19 Speaker 2: Like so.

2:10:21 Speaker 1: The time eshed Uh, I believe he is the equivalent

2:10:26 Speaker 1: of like say the NASA director, but of the Israeli.

2:10:32 Speaker 2: Israeli Spacegram.

2:10:34 Speaker 1: Yeah, he had come out and talked about this galactic

2:10:37 Speaker 1: federation and that sure Trump knows, Trump knows about it,

2:10:41 Speaker 1: and the United States and you know a lot of

2:10:43 Speaker 1: countries are working and and they they understand that. So

2:10:49 Speaker 1: do you is that I'm assuming you're you're you're saying

2:10:54 Speaker 1: that that is a true, true statement and and he

2:10:58 Speaker 1: was telling the truth and he said.

2:11:00 Speaker 2: That, oh, absolutely, the galactic federation of worlds has been

2:11:05 Speaker 2: known for eons now. But I'm just saying that even

2:11:09 Speaker 2: for the Secret Space Program, I mean, they'll tell you

2:11:12 Speaker 2: about the interplanetary corporate conglomerate on Mars that has tons

2:11:16 Speaker 2: of Asians. Nazis run Mars, so to speak. The Nazis

2:11:22 Speaker 2: were the first there on Aris Prime established their base

2:11:24 Speaker 2: there in nineteen forty three. I'm just saying that all

2:11:30 Speaker 2: of the stuff. Okay, So I'll give you an example

2:11:34 Speaker 2: that works more for you. I think you saw a spaceship.

2:11:41 Speaker 2: It was real. There's no doubt in your mind. You

2:11:45 Speaker 2: saw a real spaceship, no doubt. Now just think about it, Ty,

2:11:52 Speaker 2: That spaceship can't be human technology. I mean, it could be,

2:11:58 Speaker 2: but what I'm saying is most likely because of what

2:12:01 Speaker 2: it was doing. That's technology from civilizations that are millions

2:12:09 Speaker 2: of years older than us. Right, because in human primitive

2:12:15 Speaker 2: physical physics, you can't do that. You can't have a

2:12:19 Speaker 2: ship come over you that's silent and do what Tie says,

2:12:22 Speaker 2: There's no way. Okay, I'm pretending I'm the American physicist

2:12:26 Speaker 2: who's Einstein. Yes, And Einstein, had he not been intimately

2:12:30 Speaker 2: involved with the Aliens, would have said that's not possible.

2:12:36 Speaker 2: But I'm seeing it. So I'll give you the example.

2:12:41 Speaker 2: You take your iPhone, Tie, and you go back two

2:12:43 Speaker 2: hundred years and you talk to the top scientists. Let's

2:12:46 Speaker 2: just say it's a Tesla level guy or an Einstein

2:12:48 Speaker 2: level guy, and you say, here's an iPhone. Now, give

2:12:52 Speaker 2: one to your friend, and she's going to walk over there,

2:12:54 Speaker 2: and you two are going to be able to talk

2:12:55 Speaker 2: to each other, and that scientist is going to go

2:12:59 Speaker 2: not and then it's going to occur and the scientist

2:13:03 Speaker 2: is going to go, well, dang, I'll be damned. I

2:13:08 Speaker 2: can talk to her. She's way over there. It's eighteen

2:13:10 Speaker 2: hundred and these two little boxes allow me to talk. Now,

2:13:16 Speaker 2: that's you only going back two hundred years. That's you

2:13:19 Speaker 2: with an iPhone only two hundred years. Yeah, two people,

2:13:23 Speaker 2: and you're telling the top American scientists at the time

2:13:28 Speaker 2: that this technology is available to you right now, and

2:13:32 Speaker 2: that scientists says, this can't work. It's not physically possible

2:13:35 Speaker 2: in my scientific primitive human knowledge. And just step it

2:13:41 Speaker 2: ahead two hundred years to right now. Right, you've got

2:13:45 Speaker 2: all the top scientists now, Einstein, Oppenheimer, all those guys,

2:13:48 Speaker 2: you can read it and hush. All of them were

2:13:50 Speaker 2: intimately involved and had to keep their mouths shut, not

2:13:54 Speaker 2: only for death threats against their families, but because all

2:13:57 Speaker 2: their funding for their projects. They were warned everything for

2:14:00 Speaker 2: you will be dropped and you will be debunked, and

2:14:03 Speaker 2: your families can die. So you keep your mouth shut off,

2:14:06 Speaker 2: your Einstein, and you're working with aliens. So how great

2:14:10 Speaker 2: is that you're working with alien reverse engineering technology of

2:14:13 Speaker 2: ships that the cabal has that has given military contracts.

2:14:17 Speaker 2: Einstein Oppenheimer is at Roswell. I mean, I'm just saying

2:14:23 Speaker 2: that these folks are going, I don't know how it works,

2:14:28 Speaker 2: but this darn ship I'm staring at right here at

2:14:31 Speaker 2: Roswell that has crash landed is clearly from an advanced technology,

2:14:38 Speaker 2: a civilization that is perhaps millions of years older than me.

2:14:42 Speaker 2: That is a ship with no It flew here silently

2:14:46 Speaker 2: at above mock speeds, crash landed, and it has power

2:14:51 Speaker 2: to it, but it's not connected to anything, and there's

2:14:54 Speaker 2: no engine. There's nothing running that power. How does it

2:14:57 Speaker 2: have power because it's got zero point energy? How did

2:14:59 Speaker 2: it I'm here silently at beyond mock speeds. How can

2:15:03 Speaker 2: it warp space and time? Oppenheimer's looking at the ship

2:15:05 Speaker 2: going I'm clearly a primitive ape and it was the

2:15:11 Speaker 2: best thing that ever happened to him because he realized,

2:15:13 Speaker 2: oh my god, we're not alone.

2:15:15 Speaker 1: But on top of that, it's possible.

2:15:18 Speaker 2: Oh it's not just possible, it clearly happened right in

2:15:21 Speaker 2: the foight, right, And he's going, Okay, so this cell

2:15:24 Speaker 2: phone works. I'm taking you back to your two hundred

2:15:26 Speaker 2: year example. You've given a primitive person a cell phone

2:15:29 Speaker 2: and they're like, well, dang, it works. And they're scientists,

2:15:33 Speaker 2: but they don't have the technology two hundred years ago

2:15:35 Speaker 2: to make an iPhone. But you hold one today. And

2:15:38 Speaker 2: what I'm saying to you is we are only two

2:15:42 Speaker 2: hundred years from you walking back in time. Now go

2:15:45 Speaker 2: a million years ahead of us, or you can think

2:15:49 Speaker 2: behind us, because a civilization that's a million years older

2:15:52 Speaker 2: than us, reptilians, grays, benevolent aliens, which is ninety five

2:15:57 Speaker 2: percent of your multiverse. Good ones have been around for millennia.

2:16:03 Speaker 2: There's ships are there's ships that s f are carbon

2:16:06 Speaker 2: dated to be ten thousand years old. They have no rivets,

2:16:10 Speaker 2: no seams. They're made out of a metal that is

2:16:13 Speaker 2: far stronger than titanium, and yet you can lift them

2:16:16 Speaker 2: with your fingers. You can have two humans on either

2:16:18 Speaker 2: side of a ship and lift a thirty foot ship.

2:16:21 Speaker 2: It's so light, but that tensil strength is beyond human technology.

2:16:27 Speaker 2: The fact that it has a nuclear generator on board

2:16:29 Speaker 2: that creates a gravity envelope around that ship that it

2:16:32 Speaker 2: can fly just as fast below the ocean is above

2:16:35 Speaker 2: the ocean. It can warp space and time and go

2:16:38 Speaker 2: to different planets. That technology has been in the multiverse

2:16:43 Speaker 2: for millennia. That's how they are able to come and go,

2:16:47 Speaker 2: and now since the early early forties late nineteen thirty eight,

2:16:53 Speaker 2: humans the cabal, malevolent elements of all of these governments

2:16:58 Speaker 2: who are told to keep sight on about this because

2:17:01 Speaker 2: if humans know that they're being manipulated, that there's aliens

2:17:05 Speaker 2: kind of running the show, we're going to rebel. So

2:17:07 Speaker 2: how do you keep humans who are about to grow

2:17:09 Speaker 2: into what we are from rebelling. You make them believe

2:17:13 Speaker 2: there's no such thing as aliens, there's no alien craft

2:17:16 Speaker 2: being reverse engineered, and you do it by infiltrating. It's

2:17:22 Speaker 2: like a silent takeover, perpetrated against the same people who

2:17:27 Speaker 2: don't believe in aliens. It's the perfect velvet takeover of

2:17:31 Speaker 2: the planet and you're experiencing it. You're in the middle

2:17:34 Speaker 2: of it, so.

2:17:35 Speaker 1: I assume that you and maybe I shouldn't assume, especially

2:17:40 Speaker 1: given everything that you've said. But Bob Bazaar's story.

2:17:48 Speaker 2: Do you believe absolutely he is. I can promise you.

2:17:51 Speaker 2: He was a physicist at Los Alamos. He's on the

2:17:54 Speaker 2: front cover as like an eighteen or nineteen year old

2:17:57 Speaker 2: with his rocket car. He's on the front cover of

2:17:59 Speaker 2: the law Salamo's paper as a physicist going about to

2:18:03 Speaker 2: go to the school. And who sees that cover. The

2:18:08 Speaker 2: father of the hydrogen bomb, Edward Taylor, comes to speak

2:18:12 Speaker 2: at Los Alamos, is reading the paper and when Bob

2:18:15 Speaker 2: Blazaar is sitting outside the lecture room waiting for Edward Teller,

2:18:20 Speaker 2: and he's embarrassed. He even tells the story. Teller recognizes

2:18:24 Speaker 2: him and says you're You're the one that had the

2:18:27 Speaker 2: rocket car, and Teller sends Bob Lazaar to go for

2:18:32 Speaker 2: an interview at this little company called EG and G,

2:18:35 Speaker 2: which happens to be Station D Area fifty one, Papoose

2:18:40 Speaker 2: Lake s four. Bob's working on the sport model. That

2:18:44 Speaker 2: dude has never made a cent. He tells the same

2:18:47 Speaker 2: story for thirty five years. I can absolutely promise you

2:18:51 Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty percent. He is a physicist, interesting

2:18:56 Speaker 2: and was at Los Alamos. Absolutely guarantee it. Okay, there

2:19:02 Speaker 2: are certain things that I research hard, and I feel

2:19:06 Speaker 2: sorry for that guy. I mean homage to Bob Blazaar.

2:19:09 Speaker 2: He has been through the ringer and continues to go

2:19:11 Speaker 2: through the ringer. He's he's unbelievable.

2:19:15 Speaker 1: And he's also an easily if you needed to discredit somebody,

2:19:24 Speaker 1: he is someone you can discredit if need be, because

2:19:28 Speaker 1: he doesn't he's not squeaky clean.

2:19:31 Speaker 2: So you mean because they brought charges of him running

2:19:34 Speaker 2: a brothel or something.

2:19:36 Speaker 1: Yeah, but but my point being, he was in front

2:19:39 Speaker 1: of the judge and he could have just said, you

2:19:41 Speaker 1: know what, I lied about it all. You know, I'm

2:19:45 Speaker 1: sorry it was But but he stuck to his guns

2:19:50 Speaker 1: because even the courts were having trouble pulling his educational

2:19:54 Speaker 1: records and previous employment. They were running up against the

2:19:57 Speaker 1: same issues as George Knapp in his team, and when

2:20:02 Speaker 1: it was presented in the court, he had his chance

2:20:05 Speaker 1: to kind of just step away, but he's stuck to

2:20:07 Speaker 1: his guns. And yeah, he you know the brothel thing,

2:20:12 Speaker 1: it's and his wife cheating on him, not knowing that

2:20:18 Speaker 1: he was going where he's going at weird hours like

2:20:23 Speaker 1: it brus the perfect like, Hey, if we need to,

2:20:29 Speaker 1: we can pull the rug from under the sky and

2:20:32 Speaker 1: we can protect ourselves as as a government.

2:20:38 Speaker 2: So that that's true. But you can do that with anyone,

2:20:41 Speaker 2: and that's what I need one. That's what you can

2:20:43 Speaker 2: always you can always find fault to put into the

2:20:46 Speaker 2: into the media, to shoot someone down that you don't

2:20:49 Speaker 2: want them speaking about something they just worked on. But

2:20:52 Speaker 2: think about this, Just think about this for a second.

2:20:57 Speaker 2: Why would anyone try to make Bob Lazar's records disappear?

2:21:03 Speaker 2: Just think about it. Why would they bring him into

2:21:06 Speaker 2: court on trumped up charges? Why? Why would any of

2:21:10 Speaker 2: that occur? Unless he's a threat, and that's what he is.

2:21:16 Speaker 2: You just don't do that. You don't. You don't debunk

2:21:18 Speaker 2: somebody for years and years and years unless there's a threat.

2:21:22 Speaker 2: If they're just a crazy person going, I worked on

2:21:25 Speaker 2: flying saucers and you don't care about them. If you

2:21:27 Speaker 2: don't care about them, do you debunk them. No, everyone's

2:21:30 Speaker 2: gonna go they're totally crazy. But they know Bob Lazar

2:21:34 Speaker 2: is telling the truth, and people watching Bob Blazar know

2:21:37 Speaker 2: he's telling the truth. And that's when you debunk them

2:21:40 Speaker 2: if you're the cabal, because you're threatened. So I think

2:21:44 Speaker 2: about that with Bob Blazar.

2:21:46 Speaker 1: One of my favorite, one of my favorite speeches is

2:21:51 Speaker 1: the one that Daniel in a way gave and where

2:21:55 Speaker 1: he spoke about this cabal and just kind of flat

2:21:59 Speaker 1: out set that there's this there's this entity that operates

2:22:04 Speaker 1: outside of the law. It has its own fundraising mechanism,

2:22:08 Speaker 1: it has its own army, its own navy, and its own.

2:22:12 Speaker 2: Uh generally miss Yeah. The mechanism is your dollars to

2:22:16 Speaker 2: your tax dollars being funneled. That's why Donald Rumsfeldt says

2:22:19 Speaker 2: we have two point three trillion dollars of missing funds

2:22:25 Speaker 2: unaccounted for. It's not unaccounted for, it's funneled, and it's

2:22:29 Speaker 2: your cabal taking your tax dollars for deep underground military projects,

2:22:33 Speaker 2: their space program everything that you're not privy to, that

2:22:37 Speaker 2: you don't have access to, you've paid for right unacknowledged

2:22:44 Speaker 2: special access programs from Lockheed Martin to McDonald douglas to E.

2:22:49 Speaker 2: G and G that Bob Bazaar is working on. They

2:22:51 Speaker 2: had to pay Bob Bazaar. Who pays it? You paid

2:22:54 Speaker 2: it you don't get access to go touch the ship.

2:22:57 Speaker 2: You don't get to go to S four into the

2:22:59 Speaker 2: nine hangars there, you don't get to go fifty floors

2:23:02 Speaker 2: down in Kirtland and see all the aliens and everything

2:23:04 Speaker 2: that's being worked on. You're paying for it, right, you

2:23:09 Speaker 2: don't get access to it. That's when I talk about

2:23:13 Speaker 2: direct your energy and help your audience understand, because if

2:23:17 Speaker 2: you keep talking about it, when humans get enough of

2:23:21 Speaker 2: it where they're like I am sick of hearing every

2:23:24 Speaker 2: year that trillions of dollars are unaccounted for, and then

2:23:28 Speaker 2: they realize they're not unaccounted for. They're being funneled to

2:23:32 Speaker 2: this group that is above our government and all other governments,

2:23:35 Speaker 2: and they're working on things and using spaceships and going

2:23:39 Speaker 2: into space and traveling and getting technologies that we don't

2:23:43 Speaker 2: have access to, and we're paying for it. That's where

2:23:48 Speaker 2: you're going to start to get the right uproar in

2:23:51 Speaker 2: the right direction, not at our government, at the group

2:23:55 Speaker 2: that literally wields those alien technologies right and they're first engineered.

2:24:02 Speaker 1: Versions.

2:24:03 Speaker 2: We paid for it, right for it. This is the

2:24:08 Speaker 2: American government and every other government that gets their funds

2:24:12 Speaker 2: funneled to these alien traded technologies in special acts or

2:24:18 Speaker 2: unacknowledged special access programs that you and I never.

2:24:20 Speaker 1: See, right, And that's and that's a dangerous I mean

2:24:25 Speaker 1: that that and you're right that could get that could

2:24:28 Speaker 1: unite people because again it's you're right. It's not against

2:24:31 Speaker 1: any Democrat or Republican, it really does. It transcends that,

2:24:36 Speaker 1: and it's it's all of us and this other thing

2:24:42 Speaker 1: that has been allowed to operate in secret, uh seemingly

2:24:46 Speaker 1: without restriction, and you know it's uh, I'm sure you've heard,

2:24:51 Speaker 1: uh lately about doctor Beatrice Villa Royal's work with the

2:24:57 Speaker 1: pre pre spot nick transient object that seem to be

2:25:01 Speaker 1: in like the monolith No or maybe I don't know,

2:25:07 Speaker 1: but she she's been working with these slides and in

2:25:13 Speaker 1: these slides are the pictures were taken over a period

2:25:19 Speaker 1: of time from I think it was maybe someone in

2:25:23 Speaker 1: the comment so someone can let me know I'm just blanking.

2:25:28 Speaker 1: But it's pre SPOTNK, so pre any human space like

2:25:33 Speaker 1: no like again public facing, it's before any public facing

2:25:39 Speaker 1: human made satellites or space program. I think it's forty

2:25:43 Speaker 1: seven to like fifty nine that era. And they're looking

2:25:49 Speaker 1: in the shadow of the so the shadowy part of

2:25:54 Speaker 1: the sky, and there was a series of pictures that

2:25:58 Speaker 1: were taken over periods of time, so like fifty minutes

2:26:02 Speaker 1: between each and what she is seeing is that there

2:26:06 Speaker 1: are these objects that are in orbit, like geosynchronous orbit

2:26:12 Speaker 1: with Earth, and they've been there for a long time

2:26:17 Speaker 1: and she's they're seeing them on these slides. Now debunkers

2:26:21 Speaker 1: are saying that it's just smudges and plate defects, but

2:26:27 Speaker 1: what she's saying is she's accounted for a certain percentage

2:26:32 Speaker 1: to be smudges defects and that, and that it's still happening.

2:26:36 Speaker 1: And sometimes these things are lining up in straight lines, right,

2:26:40 Speaker 1: so they'll they're calling them transients because in one slide

2:26:44 Speaker 1: they're all flickered on, and then the next slide they're

2:26:47 Speaker 1: all flickered off. And again they're looking in the Earth's shadow.

2:26:51 Speaker 1: So there's the sunlight. You can't use that as an

2:26:55 Speaker 1: excuse because it's the shadowy because they're looking out the

2:27:01 Speaker 1: sun's on the opposite side, right, so it creates this shadow,

2:27:07 Speaker 1: and that's where they're looking. And they're still finding these

2:27:10 Speaker 1: these objects that are essentially out there and have been

2:27:14 Speaker 1: out there for as long as at least as long

2:27:19 Speaker 1: as these slides have existed, which is prior to spotneck.

2:27:23 Speaker 1: So she's saying that there's metallic objects in our orbit,

2:27:30 Speaker 1: and I'm I'm again, I'm probably not saying it. I'm

2:27:33 Speaker 1: not a scientist, so I'm not saying it as as

2:27:35 Speaker 1: smart as she as she is, But there are things

2:27:39 Speaker 1: out there that shouldn't be there, and they're they're they

2:27:45 Speaker 1: have evidence of it. They just submitted a peer reviewed

2:27:48 Speaker 1: paper and it went through the gauntlet and then it

2:27:51 Speaker 1: got rejected by this server farm of papers where papers

2:27:58 Speaker 1: go to live or die. It got rejected because it

2:28:01 Speaker 1: wasn't of interest. But even though it's the biggest story

2:28:05 Speaker 1: in the world, right, there's these things in our in

2:28:10 Speaker 1: our our our our space that shouldn't be there, and

2:28:17 Speaker 1: they're saying it's not of interest. This this yeah, so yeah,

2:28:23 Speaker 1: So clearly you're not familiar with with this.

2:28:27 Speaker 2: No, but I'll give you I'll give you a hint

2:28:29 Speaker 2: of how that sounds in in kind of a bigger realm. Right,

2:28:37 Speaker 2: So let's just take a primitive tribe that lives in

2:28:40 Speaker 2: a jungle and there's only one highway near the jungle

2:28:45 Speaker 2: and it's just the curve of the highway, just a curve.

2:28:47 Speaker 2: But this primitive tribe has been in that jungle forever,

2:28:51 Speaker 2: and every once in a while one of them runs

2:28:55 Speaker 2: back to the tribe and said, I just saw this

2:28:57 Speaker 2: thing goes by, and I'll just say it, for the

2:28:59 Speaker 2: name of the sake, I think it was a car. Now,

2:29:02 Speaker 2: this tribe doesn't know what a car is, right, And

2:29:06 Speaker 2: this crazy person comes back to side, I swear I

2:29:08 Speaker 2: saw this thing go by. I swear I did. And

2:29:11 Speaker 2: now a year later, someone else in the tribe sees

2:29:15 Speaker 2: on this excessively rural highway this thing go by, and

2:29:18 Speaker 2: they run back and they say, I've seen this thing. Now,

2:29:22 Speaker 2: if you take the tribe, let's just say that they're

2:29:28 Speaker 2: in a jungle, deep in the throes of Africa. And

2:29:32 Speaker 2: if you take them now on a plane, which is

2:29:36 Speaker 2: going to be a big experience for one, but you

2:29:37 Speaker 2: drop them next to Cape Town, South Africa, there's.

2:29:43 Speaker 1: Going to be.

2:29:45 Speaker 2: Thousands and thousands of cars. And all I'm saying, Tyler,

2:29:50 Speaker 2: is you're in a multiverse, just our galaxy alone. You're

2:29:59 Speaker 2: saying that that she has seen a car on the curve,

2:30:02 Speaker 2: and you're excited about it. And what I'm trying to

2:30:05 Speaker 2: say to you is, boss, what's around you the trillions

2:30:12 Speaker 2: of races just in our universe, not in the multiverse.

2:30:21 Speaker 2: You're standing in that forest going that just can't be.

2:30:25 Speaker 2: Maybe she saw something, maybe she didn't. They're going to

2:30:27 Speaker 2: debate it. Why do you even spend on it. Just

2:30:30 Speaker 2: think about this, just mathematically, think about what has to

2:30:35 Speaker 2: be out there, just in vehicles alone, like anti gravity

2:30:38 Speaker 2: vehicles of you've seen one yourself. You saw a car

2:30:43 Speaker 2: go by on the curve. But Ty, you know we

2:30:48 Speaker 2: have a secret space program. You know that thousands of saucers,

2:30:53 Speaker 2: itings over many years, and landings and contact events and abductions.

2:30:59 Speaker 2: You can drop yourself and go. I can now go

2:31:05 Speaker 2: to Melbourne and look around and go, there's thousands of cars.

2:31:08 Speaker 2: There's thousands of alien craft. There are millions of alien

2:31:12 Speaker 2: craft all around you all the time. In orbit around

2:31:17 Speaker 2: our planet. There are benevolent aliens watching what's happening there.

2:31:21 Speaker 2: There are ships in orbit around our solar system, motherships

2:31:27 Speaker 2: around many solar systems. There are too many craft just

2:31:34 Speaker 2: in your galaxy to count. So I'm just saying step

2:31:38 Speaker 2: out for a second. You're only seeing and hearing about

2:31:42 Speaker 2: the car on the curve because of research. But I

2:31:47 Speaker 2: think one of the other podcasts I won't name it, it's

2:31:49 Speaker 2: a big one that I was just on. They're about

2:31:51 Speaker 2: to release a documentary on the Secret Space Program. They're

2:31:54 Speaker 2: interviewing all the people who were in the secret Space

2:31:56 Speaker 2: program for twenty years. The Secret Space program is still

2:31:59 Speaker 2: going on, and these are just people who were in

2:32:02 Speaker 2: it twenty years ago. In space in the eighties. You

2:32:05 Speaker 2: can read Tony Rodrigg's book series Coliny Cavalier. He's in

2:32:10 Speaker 2: space for the Nazis, working on one of their moons

2:32:12 Speaker 2: as a slave. When you watch Tony Rodriguez on many

2:32:16 Speaker 2: different interviews, the dude is just telling you. I was like,

2:32:20 Speaker 2: I don't care if you believe it. This is what occurred.

2:32:22 Speaker 2: My clone was taking space. I worked for these guys.

2:32:26 Speaker 2: It wasn't great. I had these experiences. And then you

2:32:29 Speaker 2: go to Rebecca Rose and it's the same darn story.

2:32:31 Speaker 2: And then you realize all of these citizens from all

2:32:35 Speaker 2: over the planet are coming forward, going I was taken,

2:32:39 Speaker 2: I was cloned. My clone was on worked in the

2:32:42 Speaker 2: speech specially for twenty years. My mind wipe is glitching

2:32:47 Speaker 2: now that I'm sixty. I'm having vivid memories of twenty

2:32:52 Speaker 2: years working for a mining company on Mars, which there's

2:32:57 Speaker 2: mining companies on Mars that work for the inner corporate

2:33:00 Speaker 2: interplanetary corporate conglomerate. There is so much ample evidence that

2:33:08 Speaker 2: you don't have to sit in the jungle anymore and

2:33:10 Speaker 2: contemplate this tie. You have seen a ship, You're rare,

2:33:15 Speaker 2: you know they exist. This is just a car for you.

2:33:18 Speaker 2: That might be a car that went by on the curve.

2:33:20 Speaker 2: It's a real ship. When you're two, Who cares. If

2:33:22 Speaker 2: you're two, you're smart enough to know that was a

2:33:26 Speaker 2: real thing. I saw. Yeah, just do the mathematics tie.

2:33:30 Speaker 2: If it's here, why would there only be one?

2:33:34 Speaker 1: Right? Oh yeah, yeah right?

2:33:35 Speaker 2: And why would there be many in orbit around any

2:33:38 Speaker 2: given Solar system or around any given planet. For whatever

2:33:42 Speaker 2: their agenda is, I'm going to maybe mine that planet.

2:33:44 Speaker 2: I'm going to grab a human. I'm gonna meet these

2:33:47 Speaker 2: aliens over here, just like we have so much going

2:33:50 Speaker 2: on in just our tiny little globe daily, all of

2:33:54 Speaker 2: us agendas. I'm going to get a cup of coffee.

2:33:56 Speaker 2: I'm going to go do an interaction with a corporate

2:33:58 Speaker 2: conglomerate to a contract. We have millions of interactions of

2:34:03 Speaker 2: humans and aliens going on just on this small orb

2:34:09 Speaker 2: and they're here from all over.

2:34:11 Speaker 1: Yeah right, So strapolate that out.

2:34:13 Speaker 2: Don't spin on the one woman who I'm not saying

2:34:16 Speaker 2: she's not right. What I'm saying is she's not only right,

2:34:19 Speaker 2: it's like way beyond what she's saying. She just can't

2:34:23 Speaker 2: see it and wasn't privy to it back then. And

2:34:26 Speaker 2: that's the whole thing. You're in the grips of a

2:34:29 Speaker 2: group that fears who you're about to be, and they're

2:34:33 Speaker 2: hoodwinking you and keeping you in this mail. You of

2:34:36 Speaker 2: spinning off on things like whatever it is flat Earth

2:34:39 Speaker 2: or someone saying that I'm I don't want humanity to survive.

2:34:44 Speaker 2: Just watch what's happening to you. Try to get out

2:34:48 Speaker 2: of that mind control that wants that you love it

2:34:53 Speaker 2: because your mind goes, oh, this is fun to dell

2:34:55 Speaker 2: and you think there's more ships in the orbiting our planet.

2:35:00 Speaker 2: It absolutely secreting.

2:35:04 Speaker 1: What is it called, I'm just secreting it.

2:35:09 Speaker 2: I'm just saying that. Just do the mathematics of of

2:35:14 Speaker 2: what you've already seen as a kid. There's not just

2:35:18 Speaker 2: one ship that appears to tie over the over the

2:35:23 Speaker 2: many years, there's thousands and thousands of encounter encounters that

2:35:27 Speaker 2: you can read about right now, with people experiencing ships,

2:35:30 Speaker 2: being abducted, being taken off world Secret Space Program personnel,

2:35:35 Speaker 2: her seeing blips from way back before all this. Of course,

2:35:39 Speaker 2: there's probably eight blips out there and they're they're ships.

2:35:43 Speaker 2: But when you look at in the context of what

2:35:45 Speaker 2: you actually can know now who cares? There could be

2:35:50 Speaker 2: one hundred ships that she's not seeing and they're real

2:35:53 Speaker 2: because the benevolent aliens are monitoring what's occurring on this

2:35:58 Speaker 2: planet since the whole experiment starts, like what is going

2:36:01 Speaker 2: to happen? Because humans are rising right now, this is

2:36:03 Speaker 2: an exciting time. There's a lot of information that many

2:36:08 Speaker 2: races are here to watch what's happening literally in the

2:36:11 Speaker 2: next few years.

2:36:13 Speaker 1: Well, I just think it's interesting that you know she's

2:36:17 Speaker 1: because you know, the the UFO world community, you know,

2:36:23 Speaker 1: has been has been really really adamant that we need

2:36:27 Speaker 1: scientists and serious people at the helm doing work like this.

2:36:32 Speaker 1: And it's ironic too because the astronomer that led Harvard Menziel,

2:36:42 Speaker 1: he destroyed a bunch of these plates, and why would

2:36:47 Speaker 1: he do that if there was this Why why would

2:36:51 Speaker 1: he destroy all that data? If there was something extraordinary

2:36:57 Speaker 1: on it? That that and he was a known skill,

2:37:00 Speaker 1: So and potentially maybe part of this cabal. You know,

2:37:06 Speaker 1: Ivy League schools, they have their place in the hierarchy.

2:37:10 Speaker 1: And Harvard obviously is you know, right up there. And

2:37:14 Speaker 1: that's the same Harvard that av Lobe comes from, which

2:37:19 Speaker 1: I find to be very interesting. And so all I'm

2:37:23 Speaker 1: saying is it just seems when actual scientists do the

2:37:28 Speaker 1: actual work that we've been asking for, then all of

2:37:32 Speaker 1: a sudden it's like, oh well wait, not those scientists,

2:37:35 Speaker 1: not that work, right? The goalposts keep moving. Then what

2:37:39 Speaker 1: constitutes evidence? Because we have mitchew Kaku has said it.

2:37:46 Speaker 1: I really like what he had said. The burden of

2:37:48 Speaker 1: proof is now shifted from the believer to the skeptic.

2:37:52 Speaker 1: We have the evidence. Now it's on the skeptic to

2:37:55 Speaker 1: say it's not happening. Proof to me that it's not happening.

2:38:00 Speaker 2: Yeah, and let me even take you one step higher

2:38:05 Speaker 2: your show, it's important to some extent to maybe spend

2:38:10 Speaker 2: a little bit of time on proving that it's not happening.

2:38:12 Speaker 2: But again, try not to spend on stuff that is

2:38:18 Speaker 2: just fluff. That's what the cabal wants you to do.

2:38:21 Speaker 2: They want you to stay in the spin of who's

2:38:24 Speaker 2: saying the right and wrong in congressional hearings. That's exactly

2:38:28 Speaker 2: where you've been. Yes, that's exactly where we've all been.

2:38:34 Speaker 2: But that's not how you move forward. That's not how

2:38:37 Speaker 2: you get out. You have to kind of reassess, like

2:38:42 Speaker 2: what am I spending time on today? What do I

2:38:45 Speaker 2: actually know? Do I actually believe in my heart? Is

2:38:50 Speaker 2: already there is actual because meet you? How do you

2:38:55 Speaker 2: say his name?

2:38:56 Speaker 1: Doctor Mitchu Kaku?

2:38:58 Speaker 2: Doctor Mitchu Kaku is correct. The burden of proof has flipped.

2:39:03 Speaker 2: You have access to all this information that will tell you, no,

2:39:10 Speaker 2: the actual reality is ships and races all around us

2:39:16 Speaker 2: in our planet, out in the galaxy, out in the multiverse,

2:39:21 Speaker 2: multi dimensional, and we're still spinning on is that guy

2:39:29 Speaker 2: a reptilian or not?

2:39:31 Speaker 1: Right?

2:39:33 Speaker 2: Is there are eight ships in orbit around the planet?

2:39:37 Speaker 2: Who cares? Is the Earth flat? Who cares? I'm just saying,

2:39:44 Speaker 2: step into what you already have access to. Just what

2:39:47 Speaker 2: he said, You have the burden of proof of what

2:39:51 Speaker 2: your actual reality is, and it's all around you. It's

2:39:55 Speaker 2: in the book. It's a dark, tough existence. Right in

2:40:01 Speaker 2: this moment, you'll read about some things that you won't

2:40:05 Speaker 2: want to read about that may be your actual reality.

2:40:08 Speaker 2: I'm just saying, look, next level, when you start spending

2:40:14 Speaker 2: on any given thing that someone brings to your show

2:40:16 Speaker 2: and go, am I going to spend off on flat Earth?

2:40:20 Speaker 2: I don't think so. Am I going to spend off

2:40:22 Speaker 2: on wondering whether I have to prove or not prove

2:40:26 Speaker 2: that there's eight ships out there? Maybe not. I can

2:40:33 Speaker 2: kind of confirm now from I mean, this is you

2:40:36 Speaker 2: speaking from research that there's most likely millions of ships

2:40:41 Speaker 2: in our galaxy and around any given moon or planet

2:40:45 Speaker 2: or sun, depending on what the agenda of that ship is,

2:40:48 Speaker 2: and the occupants of that ship, whether they're human or extraterrestrial,

2:40:53 Speaker 2: they have an agenda. They have something they're going to

2:40:55 Speaker 2: do at that planet, so they orbit the planet and

2:40:58 Speaker 2: do things like you would do before you land on

2:41:00 Speaker 2: a planet, inspect it and figure out what your agenda is,

2:41:04 Speaker 2: and then perhaps you land on the planet or you

2:41:07 Speaker 2: observe and your observation. If you're getting into your research

2:41:12 Speaker 2: and realizing this can be over millennia. Those ships could

2:41:16 Speaker 2: have been there for thousands of years for whatever that

2:41:19 Speaker 2: agenda is of that race. I'm just saying it's much

2:41:23 Speaker 2: much grander, and he's right. The evidence is in your

2:41:29 Speaker 2: favor to just confirm it, and then you can really

2:41:33 Speaker 2: take a look at what's coming your direction. Because you're

2:41:36 Speaker 2: a show host, you're doing the right thing, You're getting

2:41:38 Speaker 2: it out there. You're talking about this cabal and this

2:41:43 Speaker 2: entity that is controlling the planet and who they might

2:41:47 Speaker 2: be if they're aliens, and most likely my gut feeling

2:41:51 Speaker 2: is they are, and they're malevolent, and they're losing control.

2:41:54 Speaker 2: They're failing, and that's why it's all happening right now

2:41:57 Speaker 2: we're rising. Then kind of reset your priority from your

2:42:01 Speaker 2: heart and go, do I need to spin off on

2:42:03 Speaker 2: any of these things. I certainly want to talk about

2:42:06 Speaker 2: things that are critical to what's happening right now, and

2:42:11 Speaker 2: maybe eight ships sitting off in orbit, Yeah, I can

2:42:15 Speaker 2: mention it, and I can certainly say that's awesome, whether

2:42:18 Speaker 2: it's true or not. But most likely there's so much

2:42:23 Speaker 2: bigger fish for you to fry that's really super important

2:42:25 Speaker 2: to your audience.

2:42:27 Speaker 1: What do you think, Well, because we'll start the wrap up.

2:42:30 Speaker 1: I'd love to have more conversations with you.

2:42:33 Speaker 2: Sure, sure, anytime. I loved it.

2:42:35 Speaker 1: Clearly there's more to be.

2:42:38 Speaker 2: Well by. Then you'll have you can listen to the

2:42:40 Speaker 2: audible of Husher, you can read the book, and then

2:42:42 Speaker 2: you'll you'll have a lot more questions for you.

2:42:44 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna I plan to sit right over there.

2:42:50 Speaker 2: Have your cocktail. Yeah, your water or your tea, you're

2:42:55 Speaker 2: green tea. There you go, you go.

2:43:00 Speaker 1: It's for my crones. It's for my crones.

2:43:02 Speaker 2: It goes good with with hush.

2:43:04 Speaker 1: Yeah. If you had to pick one case that you

2:43:09 Speaker 1: really really like, and you're a screenwriter, m you know,

2:43:16 Speaker 1: I went to film school. I have a case that

2:43:19 Speaker 1: I if there was one case that you could bring

2:43:21 Speaker 1: to life on the silver screen or or you know,

2:43:25 Speaker 1: even on let's just say bring it to life, because

2:43:29 Speaker 1: TV shows are just as good as movies these days,

2:43:32 Speaker 1: what case would that be?

2:43:34 Speaker 2: Without a doubt? Bob Blazars, Oh really not just what

2:43:39 Speaker 2: occurred with him and his working on the Saucer. I'm

2:43:42 Speaker 2: talking about his entire life. It is. It is one dynamic,

2:43:48 Speaker 2: terrifying ride that that gentleman has been on. You know,

2:43:53 Speaker 2: even in the documentary as they're shooting it on him

2:43:56 Speaker 2: with what's his name doing the documentary and hey, his

2:44:00 Speaker 2: house is rated in the documentary. Now just think about it.

2:44:04 Speaker 2: You don't get raided unless you are a threat. Just

2:44:10 Speaker 2: think about it. I think he has so to answer

2:44:13 Speaker 2: your question his he's he's the real deal and what

2:44:19 Speaker 2: he has gone through as a human where nobody believed

2:44:21 Speaker 2: him right for all these years and still to this day.

2:44:26 Speaker 2: You know, there's there's a lot of people that question

2:44:28 Speaker 2: whether hisn't you know, whether he's the real deal. That

2:44:32 Speaker 2: would be a fascinating story to me to see on

2:44:34 Speaker 2: the screen if it was accurately done.

2:44:37 Speaker 1: Yeah, there there is a there. I met someone at

2:44:40 Speaker 1: Contact in the desert that's like that's doing this really

2:44:44 Speaker 1: immersive documentary Luigi. I think it's Luigi. Oh god, I'm

2:44:53 Speaker 1: so bad with names.

2:44:54 Speaker 2: A big glass. Yeah, go ahead, it's a.

2:44:56 Speaker 1: It's a. It's it's a definitely uh a very Italian

2:45:03 Speaker 1: Vendetti or something like that. But he put these VR

2:45:07 Speaker 1: goggles on me and then you're in the hangar. You

2:45:10 Speaker 1: look around, you're like looking around and you're.

2:45:13 Speaker 2: The S four hanger and you're in the Wye and

2:45:19 Speaker 2: you see the other eight Uh it's ships that are in.

2:45:22 Speaker 1: There, the why. And then in the trailer for that documentary,

2:45:29 Speaker 1: Lazare is obviously in it and he's saying like, this

2:45:33 Speaker 1: is the closest thing two what it actually looked.

2:45:39 Speaker 2: Like in Awesome. I can't wait to see that.

2:45:42 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's gonna be wild. And that comes out.

2:45:45 Speaker 1: Then there's this he was.

2:45:47 Speaker 2: That's an amazing interview. If you haven't seen, Oh yeah,

2:45:50 Speaker 2: that's a great interview. I think it's like one of Bob.

2:45:54 Speaker 1: I think it's one of the most watched.

2:45:57 Speaker 2: Yeah, because Joe Rogan knows what's real. I'll tell you

2:45:59 Speaker 2: that he knows. Joe Rogan is not going to have

2:46:05 Speaker 2: someone on his show that he knows is just complete

2:46:07 Speaker 2: lying and fluff. Joe Rogan brought Babazar on there because

2:46:11 Speaker 2: over time Joe realized, oh my god, he's the real deal,

2:46:14 Speaker 2: which means we've all been deceived. And Joe's right, And

2:46:17 Speaker 2: that's why Bob was interviewed. And the interview is phenomenal.

2:46:21 Speaker 1: It's great, it's so good. It's so good. If there's

2:46:26 Speaker 1: one thing that you want people to get after reading Hush,

2:46:30 Speaker 1: if that's if there's one message that you want people

2:46:32 Speaker 1: to take away from Hush. What is that message?

2:46:37 Speaker 2: I would say, a have fun with the story because

2:46:40 Speaker 2: it is a fun story. It'll take you out of

2:46:42 Speaker 2: your regular work week or work month in my case,

2:46:45 Speaker 2: because it's like a six hundred page book. The audible

2:46:47 Speaker 2: has just come out, so that's fun. If you want

2:46:49 Speaker 2: twenty two hours of hearing me read the novel and

2:46:52 Speaker 2: do all the characters, that's pretty fun. But you can

2:46:56 Speaker 2: go to MDC likeg dot com and there's all the

2:46:58 Speaker 2: links there to pick up the book or the audible.

2:47:01 Speaker 2: But my message, if I had to say what it is,

2:47:06 Speaker 2: is more of a reiteration of what I've kind of

2:47:08 Speaker 2: discussed with you, Tai. The whole thing is that we

2:47:14 Speaker 2: have a super incredibly bright future for us as humanity

2:47:18 Speaker 2: coming just ahead. It's going to be a little bit

2:47:21 Speaker 2: of a dark storm that we have to get through.

2:47:23 Speaker 2: It's all covered in Hush. What may be your actual

2:47:26 Speaker 2: reality is pretty rough right now, but we are rising,

2:47:32 Speaker 2: and we as love were.

2:47:35 Speaker 1: Unstoppable, absolutely absolutely, And like I said, I will put

2:47:42 Speaker 1: the links for that in the description below if you're

2:47:46 Speaker 1: listening in the future, in the podcast description, and we

2:47:52 Speaker 1: really appreciate you coming on the show today, especially so

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2:48:13 Speaker 1: So I really appreciate that about you. I would love

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2:48:20 Speaker 2: One of these days. We'll let my Lincoln will let

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2:48:26 Speaker 2: and absolutely we're going to get together and and we'll

2:48:29 Speaker 2: have a talk. Then that'd be great.

2:48:30 Speaker 1: Hell yeah, brother, I really appreciate you doing this. And

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