ORBS From God? Uncovering the TRUTH of An Experiencer.

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1:03 Speaker 2: we're gonna be doing a.

1:05 Speaker 1: Listener experience er volume as our Revent volume number six.

1:10 Speaker 2: So I believe this.

1:11 Speaker 1: Is our sixth listener experiencer who's gonna come on the

1:15 Speaker 1: show and kind of talk about what's been going on

1:19 Speaker 1: to them.

1:19 Speaker 2: And you know, there's a stark stark.

1:24 Speaker 1: Resemblance with this, with this current witness or experiencer who

1:33 Speaker 1: the story very much reminds me of Chris Bloodso and

1:39 Speaker 1: it hits on a lot of the same themes. So

1:44 Speaker 1: it's gonna give me a good chance to ask some

1:46 Speaker 1: of the questions I would ask Chris. And you know,

1:49 Speaker 1: I have talked to Chris many times trying to get

1:51 Speaker 1: him on the show.

1:52 Speaker 2: But that's you know, easier said than done.

1:55 Speaker 1: We're still working on it, Chris, come on, But here

1:58 Speaker 1: we go, Candy minga, what's up?

2:01 Speaker 2: Brother?

2:02 Speaker 3: Hey, thanks for having me Tyler. I really appreciate it.

2:05 Speaker 4: I know I've been handed to try to get this

2:08 Speaker 4: conversation going on, but this has just kind of been

2:10 Speaker 4: going on for months and I just finally had the

2:13 Speaker 4: courage to kind of come forward. And part of it

2:15 Speaker 4: was through Chris Bledsoe. If it wasn't for him, you know,

2:19 Speaker 4: sharing about his book, you know, the UFO of God,

2:21 Speaker 4: I don't think I would have the courage to come forward,

2:24 Speaker 4: especially for me because as being a pharmacist, you know,

2:28 Speaker 4: as a healthcare professional, there's a lot of credibility and

2:30 Speaker 4: professionalism on the line, and so for me to be

2:33 Speaker 4: doing this it's a stretch. But knowing that there are

2:36 Speaker 4: experiences like Chris out there and other people who maybe

2:39 Speaker 4: having those similar experiences. I felt comfortable coming forward, especially

2:43 Speaker 4: with the amount of orbs that I've been seeing, so

2:47 Speaker 4: I just kind of wanted to share my story with

2:49 Speaker 4: people and kind of get an understanding what I've been

2:52 Speaker 4: going through.

2:53 Speaker 1: Well, I think that is very brave and I think

2:57 Speaker 1: it is also very telling.

2:59 Speaker 2: If you don't, I'm asking, how old are you?

3:02 Speaker 3: I am thirty two?

3:04 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're a year old than I am.

3:10 Speaker 2: How did you know that?

3:12 Speaker 3: I mean, I've I've watched you, you know, I to

3:15 Speaker 3: know who I'm.

3:15 Speaker 4: Talking with too, I do would like to sound yeah.

3:22 Speaker 1: But all right, yeah, so yeah, you're older than I am.

3:25 Speaker 1: So that's and listen, I have my own experience, and

3:29 Speaker 1: I didn't talk about it for so long out in

3:31 Speaker 1: the public, you know, even being in the Hollywood industry.

3:36 Speaker 1: I didn't want to go that far. So I understand,

3:41 Speaker 1: and I think with your situation especially uh it is

3:46 Speaker 1: it is telling though that the world is changing.

3:50 Speaker 2: And you know what gets me is this story out

4:00 Speaker 2: of Boeing.

4:02 Speaker 1: It really throws me back because like, do you remember,

4:07 Speaker 1: I mean, we it was a little before our time,

4:09 Speaker 1: but we did grow up in that era where our

4:13 Speaker 1: parents and their parents like astronauts. They were American heroes

4:19 Speaker 1: or national heroes out of their countries.

4:22 Speaker 2: And somehow, like.

4:27 Speaker 1: The Space Race ended, the Cold War ended, and the

4:32 Speaker 1: money in the viewership ended for for the Apollo missions,

4:38 Speaker 1: so they ended up canceling and cutting like the the

4:43 Speaker 1: missions mission budget. But NASA obviously continued to be a thing.

4:49 Speaker 1: But private aerospace is becoming very, very dominant in the sector.

4:56 Speaker 2: Private space travel. I don't think too far away.

5:01 Speaker 1: We see guys like Jeff Bezos. I mean, they took

5:06 Speaker 1: Captain Kirk to space, right, so I mean it space

5:10 Speaker 1: is going to be a commercialized thing soon. But we

5:14 Speaker 1: got these Boeing and Boeing is a company that and

5:20 Speaker 1: I know we're gonna be talking about you today, but

5:23 Speaker 1: I want to spend a couple of minutes, even if

5:25 Speaker 1: we didn't get to the second topic, I want to

5:27 Speaker 1: spend a couple of minutes saying that how much of

5:30 Speaker 1: an outrage it is that this isn't on the news

5:34 Speaker 1: every single day. And I decided that every single day

5:38 Speaker 1: on Twitter, I'm going to tag NASA, I'm gonna tag Boeing,

5:42 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna remind them of each day that those

5:46 Speaker 1: astronauts are up there. They're supposed to be up there

5:48 Speaker 1: for eight days, and now they're not gonna be able

5:51 Speaker 1: to come home till twenty twenty five, for like four months.

5:56 Speaker 2: We have a long ways to go.

5:58 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I think with the national media, and

6:01 Speaker 4: I think part of the platforms of like what you're going,

6:03 Speaker 4: what you're doing is I feel like with nowadays is

6:07 Speaker 4: the national media is something that we can trust. And

6:09 Speaker 4: I think a lot of the public audience is in

6:12 Speaker 4: kind of just general public are realizing that there are

6:14 Speaker 4: some questions based on what they're coveraging, why they're coveraging,

6:18 Speaker 4: what they're saying.

6:19 Speaker 3: Some of it just you know, if you're looking at

6:21 Speaker 3: it from like.

6:22 Speaker 4: A you know, kind of a critique aspect of things,

6:26 Speaker 4: you kind of question, is that what's the motive of

6:29 Speaker 4: what they're covering and why they're covering it? And I agree,

6:32 Speaker 4: I think it probably should be on you know, especially

6:35 Speaker 4: with this whole topic itself. Like you know, the fact

6:38 Speaker 4: with David Grush, it was there for you know, maybe

6:40 Speaker 4: a month or so and then it kind of just

6:42 Speaker 4: died away.

6:43 Speaker 1: Now, why the closest we came to full on disclosure.

6:50 Speaker 1: If if the media was truly free and fair. That

6:55 Speaker 1: would have been it. That would have been it, that

6:58 Speaker 1: would have been cookie crumble.

7:00 Speaker 4: You know, it's like, what are the most important topics

7:02 Speaker 4: that we are discussing in our time?

7:04 Speaker 3: I mean, you think about it and.

7:07 Speaker 2: You know what it is.

7:09 Speaker 1: You know what it you know what it is is

7:12 Speaker 1: what dress Kim Kardashian is wearing to the met gala

7:17 Speaker 1: that is more important to the public than David Grush

7:23 Speaker 1: Actually better comparison, Johnny Depp and Amber heard.

7:30 Speaker 2: That trial got more attention. I'm not even I didn't

7:41 Speaker 2: even need to say anything.

7:42 Speaker 3: That's the power of national media.

7:43 Speaker 4: You can address and you can cover what you want

7:45 Speaker 4: and why you want to do it, and you know

7:48 Speaker 4: people will listen because you know, I think for me personally,

7:51 Speaker 4: you know, back in twenty seventeen, when this kind of

7:53 Speaker 4: hole with you know, Tom DeLong and Liu and all

7:57 Speaker 4: those guys and you know, coming forward about it, I

8:00 Speaker 4: was busy in pharmacy school. I wasn't paying attention to

8:02 Speaker 4: it because you know, what my interpretation of the national

8:05 Speaker 4: media was was if it's important enough for them to

8:08 Speaker 4: coverage and it's important to me, they will do so.

8:10 Speaker 4: And I think it was that underlying trust that kind

8:13 Speaker 4: of has now kind of dwindled because when you're actually

8:16 Speaker 4: doing your.

8:16 Speaker 3: Own researcher going who wha, whoa, like what's going on?

8:19 Speaker 4: Like the Arrow report, you know with Kirkpatrick, you're like,

8:22 Speaker 4: is me being you know, having a doctrine. I'm looking

8:25 Speaker 4: and I'm reading what the report says, and since I've

8:27 Speaker 4: been following it for over year, I'm like.

8:28 Speaker 3: What the hell is this?

8:29 Speaker 4: Right? Like, it's it's the most obvious enraging thing because

8:32 Speaker 4: if you actually are following it, you realize what's going on,

8:35 Speaker 4: and it makes people like myself more engaged on the matter.

8:39 Speaker 2: No I and check out this.

8:43 Speaker 1: So apparently this stranded astronauts reported hearing eerie pulsing sound.

8:49 Speaker 1: So this was reported seven hours ago, eerie pulsing sound

8:54 Speaker 1: coming from troubled Boeing spacecraft. And then NASA obviously, you know,

8:59 Speaker 1: put a their response and you know, like like they

9:02 Speaker 1: always do, but like it. So the blue guird Boeing

9:08 Speaker 1: star Liner spacecraft has been making alarming noises while docked

9:13 Speaker 1: to the ISS International Space Station, causing one of the

9:17 Speaker 1: astronauts in space to make an urgent report to ground control.

9:21 Speaker 1: Major Tom Sorry couldn't resist the strange sound was first

9:25 Speaker 1: reported on Saturday morning. But guys, this is this story.

9:32 Speaker 1: These two people right here.

9:36 Speaker 2: Have been stranded.

9:40 Speaker 1: In space and will not be coming back to Earth

9:45 Speaker 1: until at least at least February. They were supposed to

9:52 Speaker 1: spend eight days. Imagine if it was you or someone

9:58 Speaker 1: in your family, Imagine, imagine this was the space race,

10:06 Speaker 1: the Cold War, this would be these people would be

10:10 Speaker 1: being heralded. But because it's Boeing, and and this ties

10:18 Speaker 1: into the UFO community, especially because Boeing is what it's

10:23 Speaker 1: a large aerospace company. They've been having a lot of

10:27 Speaker 1: issues lately, you know, whistle blowers. We're seeing some of

10:31 Speaker 1: the same themes as the UFO topic, right, whistle blowers

10:36 Speaker 1: that that seem to.

10:42 Speaker 2: Disappear, you know, if you know what I mean.

10:47 Speaker 1: But yeah, worse than that, Uh, these these people, these

10:53 Speaker 1: people are just that they're being the it's being suppressed.

10:59 Speaker 1: It's that they don't want that on the news right now.

11:03 Speaker 1: They don't want that on the news right now. Boeing

11:05 Speaker 1: doesn't need that on the news right now because guess what,

11:08 Speaker 1: every almost every commercial airline or is a Boeing, right

11:13 Speaker 1: or whatever. Sixty seventy percent of them are boeing, So

11:17 Speaker 1: if that caused a little bit of fear, right, that

11:20 Speaker 1: would be mass mass, mass, mass loss for the commercial

11:25 Speaker 1: airline industry.

11:27 Speaker 2: So they are suppressing this story because of their image,

11:32 Speaker 2: and that, my friends, is how we know.

11:36 Speaker 1: We don't live in a free press free site. So uh,

11:43 Speaker 1: with that being said, let's switch on over to you.

11:46 Speaker 1: But what do you think, man, what do you think

11:48 Speaker 1: about all this shit?

11:49 Speaker 4: The whistleblowers are bowing but everything, I mean, I agree.

11:54 Speaker 4: I think there are like patriot whistleblowers who are doing

11:58 Speaker 4: the right thing, and but the all you run into

12:01 Speaker 4: is you know the national security and you know your clearance,

12:04 Speaker 4: and you're trying and it just it's really tough because

12:07 Speaker 4: you're trying to do what's right, but at the same time,

12:10 Speaker 4: you know you have these obligations and so you know,

12:12 Speaker 4: when they're saying, oh, show is the evidence, Well, these

12:15 Speaker 4: guys can't do anything about it.

12:16 Speaker 3: And that's why the Whistleblower Act is, you.

12:18 Speaker 4: Know, and in this whole upcoming legislation is so important

12:23 Speaker 4: for them to be able to kind of talk about

12:26 Speaker 4: maybe what's going on the under the sheets of everything,

12:29 Speaker 4: because I think.

12:30 Speaker 3: The public is now becoming more and more aware of

12:33 Speaker 3: the matter.

12:34 Speaker 4: And it's only going to get worse, you know, because

12:36 Speaker 4: the secrets all, you know, the stenche of, it's going

12:39 Speaker 4: to rise to the top at some point.

12:42 Speaker 2: Yeah, right right, and you know they went, so they went.

12:50 Speaker 1: I believe they blasted off in June fifth So June, July, August, September, October, November, December, January,

13:02 Speaker 1: February nine an eight day trip nine months. Jeez, nine

13:10 Speaker 1: that's almost a thousand.

13:14 Speaker 2: It's just it's a remark. It blows my mind.

13:17 Speaker 1: It's just so I am not going to shut up

13:20 Speaker 1: about this for the next nine months. Every day, every

13:24 Speaker 1: single day, I'm gonna say it. Uh, and I'm gonna

13:26 Speaker 1: remind people. But listen, man, today's show it is all

13:31 Speaker 1: about you. So right after this, I want you to

13:37 Speaker 1: start with your story. Okay, So why don't you give

13:50 Speaker 1: us your name, where you're where you're located, in the

13:55 Speaker 1: in the in the world.

13:57 Speaker 2: You don't have to give us your address on hey.

13:59 Speaker 3: I don't care. I want you, guys. I want everyone

14:01 Speaker 3: to experience what I'm seeing outside.

14:02 Speaker 2: So start off with that.

14:05 Speaker 1: And then I wanted I'm going to ask you some

14:09 Speaker 1: probing questions and we'll get you going.

14:11 Speaker 4: Okay, So my name's Andy Tominaga. I live in Salt

14:14 Speaker 4: Lake City, Utah, basically downtown.

14:17 Speaker 3: You know, a few you know, yeah, a few blocks.

14:20 Speaker 4: So the fact that I'm seeing things out there and

14:22 Speaker 4: I got video and I've been setting it to people,

14:25 Speaker 4: and it's kind of been more and more of these

14:28 Speaker 4: incidences where I feel you're in.

14:31 Speaker 2: The same stay as Skinwalker.

14:33 Speaker 3: Yeah.

14:34 Speaker 4: Yeah, I see when I'm driving, I literally see his

14:37 Speaker 4: you know, some of his office as being you know,

14:40 Speaker 4: I see the Brandon Fugels and I'm like, yeah, man, he's.

14:42 Speaker 2: I'm in touch with him too.

14:44 Speaker 3: And you want to know what's funny too.

14:46 Speaker 4: My babysitter actually was the arborus from the most recent

14:49 Speaker 4: season when the sheriff finally had the courage to come

14:52 Speaker 4: forward about I forget what owner. It was like a

14:55 Speaker 4: couple prior and the he finally admitted that there was

14:58 Speaker 4: a craft that had crashed in and went through the tree.

15:01 Speaker 2: And so that was this most recent season.

15:04 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, my babysitter was the one analyzing the tree.

15:07 Speaker 4: I was like, no way, like John, that's you you

15:10 Speaker 4: know what a funny story about John?

15:11 Speaker 3: Because I have a twin sister. So I was a

15:13 Speaker 3: little shithead.

15:14 Speaker 4: And so back in the day when he'd get mad

15:16 Speaker 4: at me the Outcast song you know, hey y'all, so

15:20 Speaker 4: he'd give me a swirly and then right at the

15:23 Speaker 4: part when it was like how cold, and then he

15:25 Speaker 4: pulled my head and I'd be like, I scold.

15:28 Speaker 2: I was such a.

15:28 Speaker 4: Little I was a stinker. So I deserved it, but

15:31 Speaker 4: I was laughing so hard. I've been actually trying to

15:33 Speaker 4: reach out to him, but he hasn't replied because I'm like,

15:34 Speaker 4: I wanted to talk to him about my experiences and

15:37 Speaker 4: everything because I want to I'm.

15:40 Speaker 1: In touch with a lot of the multiple people at

15:43 Speaker 1: the Ranch plus branded. So what we talked about before recording,

15:51 Speaker 1: I will we'll circle, we'll circle back. Yeah, but listen,

15:58 Speaker 1: did you have any interest in the FO topic before

16:02 Speaker 1: your own experiences?

16:05 Speaker 2: What was your enthuce? You know, what was your.

16:12 Speaker 1: How did you get into this topic? Was it your

16:16 Speaker 1: encounter or was it interest?

16:19 Speaker 4: So there was kind of three things that prior so

16:22 Speaker 4: I for the first time, I was, you know, surfing,

16:25 Speaker 4: and moment of contact by James Fox.

16:28 Speaker 2: I was coming on the show in a couple of weeks.

16:31 Speaker 3: Oh, we'll tell him he was my influence, like because.

16:34 Speaker 2: When I was watching my influence him.

16:36 Speaker 4: Yeah, because when you Here's the thing for me is

16:38 Speaker 4: like I like to see it. Like when someone's telling

16:41 Speaker 4: a story, you can feel it through their emotions because

16:43 Speaker 4: if they're if they're genuinely, if you feel like there's

16:46 Speaker 4: some like kind of bs behind it. But seeing and

16:48 Speaker 4: hearing what those people in like Brazil and Virginia were

16:52 Speaker 4: going through, you're just like, you couldn't make this up

16:54 Speaker 4: and you know, And so for me, I was like,

16:57 Speaker 4: if this is real, and you know what else could be?

16:59 Speaker 4: And then you know, the Vegas crash happened and that

17:01 Speaker 4: family came forward and I asked myself, I'm like, why

17:05 Speaker 4: would they come forward and talk about this? I mean

17:06 Speaker 4: this is a pretty you know, taboo topic and.

17:09 Speaker 3: Stuff like that.

17:10 Speaker 4: And so for me, you know those issues and then

17:13 Speaker 4: obviously grush and then you know, having those things, I

17:17 Speaker 4: just was like, this, this has to be legit, Like

17:19 Speaker 4: we couldn't be you know, making this up.

17:21 Speaker 3: And then I had some things happen to me.

17:24 Speaker 4: That I don't feel comfortable discussing, but it was something

17:28 Speaker 4: where it kind of it freaked me out. I would

17:32 Speaker 4: love to share it, but it's something that I'm holding

17:34 Speaker 4: near and dear to my heart. But it was part

17:36 Speaker 4: of the reason why I was going through this hardship

17:39 Speaker 4: for over a year. And how Chris Bletsoe describes it,

17:44 Speaker 4: you know, I was in my deepest, kind of darkest

17:47 Speaker 4: moments of my life that where I basically had lost

17:52 Speaker 4: contact with my family, my girlfriend ended up breaking up

17:56 Speaker 4: with me, who I thought I was going to marry

17:57 Speaker 4: at the time, and I was just trying to look

18:01 Speaker 4: out to the stars for kind of like maybe like

18:05 Speaker 4: a friend in a way, and part of me looking

18:08 Speaker 4: out in the sky and just looking up the stars

18:10 Speaker 4: and just kind of saying, like, what is my purpose here?

18:13 Speaker 4: Why am I here? And that's when these orbs started

18:17 Speaker 4: showing up, and you know that happened. It's like beginning

18:22 Speaker 4: of June, end of May, and they continually show up.

18:26 Speaker 4: I can talk about kind of more and more of

18:28 Speaker 4: my encounter and encounters. Excuse me, but that's kind of

18:33 Speaker 4: what happened to me. And I feel like it was

18:36 Speaker 4: going through that hardship because I've never kind of gone

18:39 Speaker 4: through that type of circumstance. Ever, I don't think anyone

18:42 Speaker 4: should ever have to go through what I had to

18:43 Speaker 4: go through personally, Tyler.

18:46 Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you this, man, I think and this

18:54 Speaker 2: is this is just a theory of mine because when

19:01 Speaker 2: I saw.

19:03 Speaker 1: What I saw with my mother, when I saw what

19:11 Speaker 1: looked I mean, I mean, if you've done your research

19:15 Speaker 1: on me, I don't know if you heard me tell

19:16 Speaker 1: the story, have you?

19:19 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'd love you to share it again.

19:21 Speaker 4: Yeah.

19:21 Speaker 1: So when I was in the room with my mother

19:23 Speaker 1: in your path, she was there talking. She was there,

19:30 Speaker 1: like not they're there, but she was in there. Her

19:36 Speaker 1: essence was, her consciousness was there. You know, the drugs,

19:42 Speaker 1: like the morphine and stuff they were they're obviously keeping

19:48 Speaker 1: her sedated. But I was talking to her. And then

19:51 Speaker 1: my phone began to buzz and it was in my

19:54 Speaker 1: left pocket. And for like you know, we all do

19:58 Speaker 1: it for like split second, like you kind of like

20:02 Speaker 1: make It's those everyday choices you make like split seconds, right.

20:07 Speaker 2: You know people don't realize, but think about how many.

20:10 Speaker 1: Decisions you make on a daily basis in a split second,

20:13 Speaker 1: Like all right, do I want to go this way

20:15 Speaker 1: or this way?

20:16 Speaker 2: Right?

20:16 Speaker 1: It was one of those decisions. It happened so quick

20:20 Speaker 1: and so instantaneously that within second a quarter millisecond, I

20:26 Speaker 1: have looked down and looked back up, you know, and

20:30 Speaker 1: made the conscious decision. I don't care what the fucking

20:33 Speaker 1: text messenger call is. It's not worth it right now.

20:38 Speaker 2: But in that time.

20:43 Speaker 1: Something crossed my field division went out and it the

20:49 Speaker 1: bed was in the middle of the room. So okay,

20:52 Speaker 1: if this is the room or beds here, the window

20:57 Speaker 1: is here, so and I I'm represented here. It crosses

21:05 Speaker 1: and then goes out the window.

21:07 Speaker 2: So if that makes any sense. If so, it crossed

21:12 Speaker 2: my field of vision and then out the window, so

21:17 Speaker 2: start to be like glare. It just didn't.

21:21 Speaker 1: I tried to find every fucking prosaic explanation.

21:26 Speaker 2: Trust me. What I saw was a ball that looked

21:35 Speaker 2: like it bent light around it. It like on a

21:40 Speaker 2: highway when you look down let like dispersion eat right.

21:45 Speaker 1: It was like that in a ball form, but it

21:48 Speaker 1: was like that light was bending around it rather than

21:51 Speaker 1: it having any true solid, solid like color.

21:58 Speaker 2: So it was really weird.

22:00 Speaker 1: But that's my only orb But it's when we are

22:03 Speaker 1: at our most vulnerable, I think, or maybe even on

22:10 Speaker 1: the on bull spectrums, right like total euphoria or total surrender,

22:21 Speaker 1: you're you're more likely to see beyond the veil.

22:26 Speaker 4: I think these orbs definitely have that understanding from what

22:31 Speaker 4: my experience was.

22:32 Speaker 2: They know I was long winded. I'm so sorry.

22:35 Speaker 4: No, I think it compliments exactly what kind of what

22:38 Speaker 4: I've been experiencing.

22:39 Speaker 3: Because it's interesting when you talk about you know, you know, the.

22:42 Speaker 4: Emotions and all that sorts like it when these orbs

22:46 Speaker 4: would come, it would initially it was through the genuine

22:49 Speaker 4: emotion of just like sorrow, pain and it. You know,

22:54 Speaker 4: it was kind of there being uplifting just seeing that hey,

22:57 Speaker 4: we're there, we understand what you're going through. And it's

23:01 Speaker 4: interesting how you make the point of like it for

23:04 Speaker 4: some reason, when you're looking up at the stars, it

23:06 Speaker 4: knows where you're going to be looking. And like I've

23:10 Speaker 4: had these questions where I've journaled it and I'm like

23:14 Speaker 4: I've asked the question like why me? And then you'd

23:16 Speaker 4: see an orb come in and then go by, disappear

23:19 Speaker 4: and then come back and go again. So you know,

23:20 Speaker 4: it's not like a satellite or anything like that, and how.

23:24 Speaker 3: It would get brighter and brighter.

23:26 Speaker 4: I have an experience with my buddy and so I

23:29 Speaker 4: don't generally do like you know, Stephen Greer like CE

23:33 Speaker 4: five and stuff like that. Like, but for my buddy

23:37 Speaker 4: going through this, I was witnessing more and more orbs

23:41 Speaker 4: and I finally was getting them on video. So at

23:43 Speaker 4: this point I just I was confident enough because you know,

23:46 Speaker 4: being a pharmacist, I didn't want people to be like, oh, yeah,

23:50 Speaker 4: you're just seeing things, my man. I wanted to have

23:52 Speaker 4: multiple experiences as well as getting it on video before.

23:57 Speaker 3: I wanted to bring someone along, right, and when I problem.

24:00 Speaker 2: Can I can? I can? I pause you? Yeah?

24:03 Speaker 3: Yeah?

24:04 Speaker 2: You being a.

24:05 Speaker 1: Pharmacist, does anyone what do you get drug tested?

24:13 Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah, you do get drug tested?

24:17 Speaker 1: Because like could anyone, could anyone be like he's fucking

24:22 Speaker 1: taking meds?

24:24 Speaker 3: Yeah?

24:25 Speaker 4: I mean if they are concerned about my will going

24:28 Speaker 4: but like a yeah.

24:29 Speaker 2: Like are you hallucinate?

24:30 Speaker 1: Because that's going to be the first question is is

24:34 Speaker 1: is is this is he on something?

24:37 Speaker 2: Like do you take any do you do you take

24:39 Speaker 2: any meds?

24:41 Speaker 3: Yeah? Are you asking me personally?

24:43 Speaker 2: Yeah? You don't have to, you know.

24:46 Speaker 3: That?

24:46 Speaker 2: What what an altered perception?

24:49 Speaker 4: I would say in the setting of what I've been

24:51 Speaker 4: I've been taking for anything Okay, what I'm I mean,

24:55 Speaker 4: I take meds, but in the setting of this, I've

24:56 Speaker 4: been taking for ten years. And also it doesn't really

25:00 Speaker 4: it doesn't matter for me because I have it on

25:02 Speaker 4: video as well as other people witnessing it with me.

25:05 Speaker 4: So it doesn't really matter to me in that way

25:09 Speaker 4: because I got video evidence as well as corroborating evidence, right,

25:12 Speaker 4: other people who have seen these with me, right.

25:15 Speaker 2: And I have seen the videos. Are you listening?

25:20 Speaker 1: Yeah, for anyone listening, I would highly advise that for

25:25 Speaker 1: this episode. Uh, maybe at this point you're gonna register

25:29 Speaker 1: as watching listening to the episode, but maybe switch over

25:32 Speaker 1: to YouTube because we're gonna throw up some videos and

25:36 Speaker 1: and and you know to our listening audience guys shit,

25:41 Speaker 1: like you know, subscribe on YouTube. We have like seventy

25:45 Speaker 1: thousand people that listen, how you know, the show some

25:49 Speaker 1: love on the YouTube side because we're trying to do

25:52 Speaker 1: some some bigger and better projects. So uh, with that

25:55 Speaker 1: being said, I want to you know, I want to

25:58 Speaker 1: show some of the videos that you did send me

26:00 Speaker 1: because I did see them.

26:03 Speaker 2: But my take on.

26:04 Speaker 1: Them is we need more evidence because iPhone cameras just

26:11 Speaker 1: aren't Sorry, no, no, I've said offward like four times

26:17 Speaker 1: are I bleep it during if if I think you

26:23 Speaker 1: can get away with one and then I believe the rest.

26:27 Speaker 2: But what is so because any all the videos and in.

26:37 Speaker 1: My eyes going forward, video evidence is going to start

26:43 Speaker 1: losing its credibility because.

26:45 Speaker 2: Of the advent of AI.

26:48 Speaker 1: That unless you have the data, and I bet you

26:52 Speaker 1: do so, because if you're taking them with an iPhone

26:56 Speaker 1: and you have them still saved on your iPhone, then

26:59 Speaker 1: you have the metada, so you're good. You could back

27:02 Speaker 1: it up with metadata and maybe you know with what

27:07 Speaker 1: we're what we talked about earlier, we could show some

27:10 Speaker 1: of that. But I without having to show the videos,

27:16 Speaker 1: I want you to talk to me about the first time,

27:21 Speaker 1: the moment of contact, if you will.

27:25 Speaker 3: Okay, So I was looking at the star.

27:28 Speaker 2: I think as much bring me back as if I

27:33 Speaker 2: was standing next to you.

27:35 Speaker 3: Okay, I was out.

27:38 Speaker 4: So all these encounters usually happened in my backyard, and

27:42 Speaker 4: I was looking up at the stars. And I don't

27:45 Speaker 4: know if it's conscientiously, but you know, it was kind

27:48 Speaker 4: of creating this relationship of treating them as if they

27:51 Speaker 4: were their hon human like. It was as if it

27:54 Speaker 4: was my own friend in a way, and I was

27:56 Speaker 4: it was more of like a therapy session, to be honest.

27:59 Speaker 4: And I was looking at and I was so upset

28:01 Speaker 4: because Sheila, my ex, was like the love of my life,

28:05 Speaker 4: and you know, she wasn't replying anymore, and I was

28:09 Speaker 4: just like, why did you guys do this to me?

28:13 Speaker 4: I didn't deserve any of this from this past year.

28:15 Speaker 4: You know, I had a loving girlfriend who I wanted

28:17 Speaker 4: to marry. I still was in contact with my family

28:20 Speaker 4: and friends, and this whole topic has just pushed me

28:23 Speaker 4: away and turmoiled me. And then, you know, I was

28:28 Speaker 4: for minutes and that's when this yellow.

28:31 Speaker 3: Orb you know, started to appear.

28:33 Speaker 4: And then it just came out and then slowly started

28:35 Speaker 4: moving and I knew it wasn't a star because I've

28:37 Speaker 4: been staring at the sky for so long and it

28:39 Speaker 4: was moving and I'm like, what is that?

28:42 Speaker 3: And then.

28:44 Speaker 4: I asked something like along the lines because it was

28:47 Speaker 4: a little cloudy on the south side, and I asked

28:51 Speaker 4: it to protect me. And within like a second, and

28:55 Speaker 4: this is all constantly, this is all in my head,

28:57 Speaker 4: something lit up and it was a dark it was

29:00 Speaker 4: the cloud was light gray, but it like a spherical

29:03 Speaker 4: mass within the cloud and there was no thunder or

29:06 Speaker 4: lightning at the time. There was like a purplish thunder

29:10 Speaker 4: and it kind of outlined this like blacks like and

29:12 Speaker 4: it appeared to be like a sphere and then it

29:15 Speaker 4: just it went away, and I was like, what the

29:18 Speaker 4: fuck is that? And for me, it startled me in

29:22 Speaker 4: a way. But I also heard about Chris Bledso, and

29:25 Speaker 4: so I was like, is this what's going on? And

29:29 Speaker 4: I didn't have like a fear. It was more or

29:32 Speaker 4: less that I was being heard or listened to, and

29:34 Speaker 4: I also felt validated, feeling that they were protecting me.

29:38 Speaker 3: I didn't know what it was.

29:40 Speaker 2: I you know, it was a yellow or yeah.

29:44 Speaker 1: And when you were looking at it, sorry, when you

29:55 Speaker 1: were looking at it, what was is it self illuminated?

30:02 Speaker 1: Was it pulsating anything? What was what was the description?

30:09 Speaker 1: Was it just a perfect ball light?

30:11 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it was it was up in the air,

30:13 Speaker 4: and you know, I don't I'm not a what would

30:19 Speaker 4: you call a islid or you know or you know,

30:23 Speaker 4: so I don't know distances, but it was, you know,

30:25 Speaker 4: above in the clouds. And so it's hard to describe

30:29 Speaker 4: the best way to describe it.

30:31 Speaker 3: I can see.

30:31 Speaker 4: It was this one video that I sent you two

30:36 Speaker 4: minutes and thirty I think it was the one where

30:39 Speaker 4: it kind of goes over my house and it's really slow.

30:41 Speaker 4: Did you do you remember that one that I sent you.

30:45 Speaker 4: It's kind of like those because those are the types

30:47 Speaker 4: of orbs that I see the most often. But they

30:50 Speaker 4: do illuminate and they do get brighter and brighter, and

30:52 Speaker 4: part of that too, is through conscientiousness, and it's like

30:55 Speaker 4: them validating what my thoughts were at the time.

30:59 Speaker 3: And I want to do tie going to talk about

31:00 Speaker 3: everything why I had the courage to.

31:02 Speaker 4: Come forward because it was something with this message that

31:05 Speaker 4: I got that I felt like compelled to come forward.

31:09 Speaker 1: Right Well, that's what I was going to get to

31:13 Speaker 1: it because I literally just wrote it's funny, I wrote

31:19 Speaker 1: the I'll show it to you out there, listen. I

31:25 Speaker 1: want to I'm not gonna. I don't want to bring

31:27 Speaker 1: this up.

31:28 Speaker 2: In a way that you make it makes you feel

31:33 Speaker 2: like I'm labeling that.

31:39 Speaker 1: Do you do you think? Do you have any faith?

31:43 Speaker 1: Are you faithful? Are you religious?

31:46 Speaker 2: Dude?

31:47 Speaker 3: Do I can? I I want to let me tell

31:49 Speaker 3: you the story.

31:50 Speaker 2: Of how are we thinking?

31:52 Speaker 1: This is something that's maybe beyond just an extraterrestrial visitation,

32:01 Speaker 1: maybe something the lines of what our ancestors would maybe

32:06 Speaker 1: call a angelic or divine.

32:08 Speaker 4: It's hard to know, but I do have a story

32:11 Speaker 4: that I would love to share that.

32:13 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's indescribable, but I kind of can.

32:15 Speaker 1: You tell me you saw the lady in the white,

32:17 Speaker 1: Lady of White? I'm walking out the door.

32:20 Speaker 3: It's it's a little different. It's weird.

32:22 Speaker 4: It's a little different, but it's not it's I got, man,

32:25 Speaker 4: do I gotta? I want to I want to share this,

32:27 Speaker 4: I want, but I want.

32:28 Speaker 2: To kind of bring bring it.

32:30 Speaker 4: Well, let me explain to you the let me just

32:33 Speaker 4: kind of go through everything that I've been going through,

32:35 Speaker 4: because it won't make sense until I kind of put

32:37 Speaker 4: a timeline on it. So let me just kind of

32:41 Speaker 4: get to uh, just talking about seeing these orbs on

32:44 Speaker 4: a nightly basis. So it's kind of my way of

32:48 Speaker 4: therapy because I treat them as if they're like my

32:50 Speaker 4: best friends, and you know, emotionally, you know, they seem

32:53 Speaker 4: to be really engaged with emotion, and you know, with

32:57 Speaker 4: my hardships and everything like that seem to be gravitating

33:00 Speaker 4: and I also think just being authentic.

33:03 Speaker 3: And genuine, you know, I had Initially I.

33:07 Speaker 4: Told myself I wasn't going to video these things and

33:09 Speaker 4: just kind of create a relationship.

33:11 Speaker 3: But then as time went on, I started videoing it.

33:14 Speaker 3: And then, like I.

33:15 Speaker 4: Said, with Harry, because what Harry and I experienced, and

33:20 Speaker 4: he was doing some CE five and he at the

33:23 Speaker 4: time was telling me that, so he was doing the

33:26 Speaker 4: CE five, but I'm more or less just look at

33:28 Speaker 4: the stars and then just kind of have that feeling

33:31 Speaker 4: of knowing when something's coming. And at the moment it

33:35 Speaker 4: was going like south to north or right to left

33:38 Speaker 4: in our vantage point. And at that point I tapped Harry.

33:42 Speaker 4: And when Harry was describing me to me, what he

33:44 Speaker 4: was saying is he was kind of remote viewing is

33:47 Speaker 4: inside this like craft that he described as like a

33:50 Speaker 4: blue oranges color and how he just he kind of

33:54 Speaker 4: called him a traditional alien. But Harry isn't really into

33:56 Speaker 4: the whole UFO topic, but he was mentioning to me

33:59 Speaker 4: that they basically said that Utah is basically.

34:02 Speaker 2: Kind of as a remote viewer.

34:05 Speaker 4: This is the first time he's ever done it, and

34:07 Speaker 4: so I don't know, you know, this is his story

34:10 Speaker 4: sharing it to me. I just got him to do

34:13 Speaker 4: the CE five contact for Stephen Greer because I wanted

34:16 Speaker 4: him to witness what I was experiencing, and so I

34:18 Speaker 4: thought it would be something for him, but for me,

34:20 Speaker 4: I was remote.

34:22 Speaker 2: VERI he had.

34:24 Speaker 1: He had what what you you would described as a

34:28 Speaker 1: remote viewing.

34:30 Speaker 4: Experience exactly exactly understood, and he describes it as, you know,

34:35 Speaker 4: he was seeing these uh you know, traditional aliens. And

34:38 Speaker 4: at that time he goes, you know, there's explaining to

34:41 Speaker 4: him that Utah, you know, it was a dangerous spot

34:44 Speaker 4: and they did, you know, we're worried about things. And

34:46 Speaker 4: then at that time Harry goes, well, would you be

34:49 Speaker 4: willing to reveal yourself? And coincidentally enough, at that moment,

34:53 Speaker 4: I see an orb going right to left, and so

34:55 Speaker 4: I tapped Harry on the shoulder. I'm like, look up,

34:58 Speaker 4: and so he kind of looks up out of his

35:00 Speaker 4: meditation phase and.

35:01 Speaker 3: Then we're seeing this orb.

35:03 Speaker 4: And the best way I described it is the orb

35:06 Speaker 4: was just getting brighter and brighter and brighter and brighter

35:09 Speaker 4: until it was so blinding. And I describe it as

35:12 Speaker 4: when Gandalf comes out of fangling for us in the

35:14 Speaker 4: two towers and everyone just oh, blinded by the light exactly.

35:18 Speaker 1: I'm gonna literally put that poip right there, now, you.

35:22 Speaker 3: Go for it.

35:23 Speaker 4: And then it dimmed out, dimmed out, dimmed out. I

35:26 Speaker 4: saw the orb still going right to left and then

35:28 Speaker 4: slowly dissipate. But Harry says that he was able to

35:31 Speaker 4: see it shoot out and go away, and so we

35:34 Speaker 4: ended up at you know, we're at my house, and

35:36 Speaker 4: then we end up describing because he's never experienced that before.

35:39 Speaker 4: And then he you know, he texted our buddies like, Yo,

35:42 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna I just we just witnessed the most

35:44 Speaker 4: surreal thing. And he wrote a did a voice memo

35:47 Speaker 4: on it. And so that was validating for me because

35:50 Speaker 4: I've seen those just like that getting brighter and brighter,

35:53 Speaker 4: and usually in those moments, it's their way of like

35:56 Speaker 4: kind of validating a message or a thought that I

35:58 Speaker 4: was having in my head or something important.

36:01 Speaker 2: Right.

36:01 Speaker 1: The power up right, like kind of similar to when

36:07 Speaker 1: they do the CE five protocols and then they ask

36:11 Speaker 1: for a power up and point their laser and like

36:14 Speaker 1: do like a little circle around it, and then it

36:16 Speaker 1: powers up and seems to like intensify and then get

36:21 Speaker 1: shrinked back down to its original size, right the power up.

36:25 Speaker 4: I'm not that great at this, Like I said, I'm

36:29 Speaker 4: not a remote viewer or anything like that.

36:30 Speaker 3: I'm just here experiencing defeat.

36:32 Speaker 2: So what color was the ORB that you saw?

36:35 Speaker 4: Was?

36:35 Speaker 2: It? Was it blue and yellow?

36:37 Speaker 3: Like?

36:39 Speaker 4: No, he was describing the inside of whatever this craft was,

36:42 Speaker 4: or blue or orange. I when I saw it, from

36:45 Speaker 4: what I recall, it was like a violet color I've

36:48 Speaker 4: seen so, I'll be honest, though I've seen so many

36:51 Speaker 4: orbs now that sometimes I forget which ones are which.

36:53 Speaker 4: But for that moment, I believe it was a kind

36:56 Speaker 4: of a violety color. But I was more in we

37:00 Speaker 4: were just. The thing that got to us was just

37:02 Speaker 4: how bright this ORB has gotten. Sorry, my dad's calling me.

37:05 Speaker 4: I got to decline that.

37:08 Speaker 3: And so for me, it was one.

37:10 Speaker 4: Of those experiences that I have had, those similar where

37:13 Speaker 4: the light gets so blinding it's kind of like unreal

37:17 Speaker 4: and to kind of going off with like the whole

37:20 Speaker 4: emotion and stuff like that. Can I tell you about

37:24 Speaker 4: like kind of the message or everything or did you

37:25 Speaker 4: still want to talk about this? No?

37:30 Speaker 2: I think so. So it's it's safe so we're on

37:35 Speaker 2: a timeline here.

37:36 Speaker 3: Yeah.

37:37 Speaker 1: So you you go from this very very vulnerable like

37:44 Speaker 1: first moment of contact, this initiation with the orbs, and

37:49 Speaker 1: then you start seeing them so frequently that you invite

37:53 Speaker 1: a friend and he.

37:56 Speaker 2: You you know, you you have done.

38:00 Speaker 1: A little research because you've come across Stephen Greyer, you know,

38:04 Speaker 1: C five, you do the protocols, have this experience, and.

38:11 Speaker 2: You're still seeing orbs daily. And as your friend, I

38:14 Speaker 2: want to ask, as your friend, maybe gone from skeptic

38:19 Speaker 2: to believer. Yeah.

38:22 Speaker 3: Yeah.

38:22 Speaker 4: And also he's trying to get me, you know, he's

38:25 Speaker 4: really pushing the Bible and stuff like that, and this

38:28 Speaker 4: being angelic and stuff like that.

38:30 Speaker 1: And so just I all I ask, and I'm saying this,

38:36 Speaker 1: and this is from the community as a whole. Don't

38:42 Speaker 1: eliminate the possibility.

38:45 Speaker 2: But don't label it. H don't don't label it unless.

38:50 Speaker 1: They and even if they tell you who they are,

38:53 Speaker 1: I wouldn't start labeling it.

38:54 Speaker 3: Yeah right, Yeah, I mean, I'm a science guy. I

38:59 Speaker 3: you know it.

39:00 Speaker 4: You know, there's one of these case reports, but you

39:02 Speaker 4: kind of want to get a whole picture on things.

39:04 Speaker 4: And I think we still you know, I think obviously

39:07 Speaker 4: the government in these private industries are more aware of

39:10 Speaker 4: what's going on. But for new experiences like myself, this

39:14 Speaker 4: is all kind of at face value.

39:15 Speaker 3: But we also get.

39:16 Speaker 4: To hear your guys's you know, communications with these other

39:20 Speaker 4: people in experiences and the guys who have been in

39:22 Speaker 4: the field to kind of get a better away.

39:24 Speaker 2: And I think, for me, did you know that there's

39:29 Speaker 2: so there's this thing in government.

39:31 Speaker 1: There's there's this what is known as the Collins Elite yep.

39:37 Speaker 1: And they are hardcore evangelical Christians. Yeah, and they are

39:46 Speaker 1: rumored to be the faction or at least at the

39:51 Speaker 1: head of the faction in government that basically tries to

39:57 Speaker 1: kill all funding for any of the science dific programs,

40:01 Speaker 1: any of the special access programs. That's why we're having

40:05 Speaker 1: trouble and it's gone so underground.

40:08 Speaker 2: Partly is because.

40:10 Speaker 1: There's this faction in government that thinks that we're tinkering

40:14 Speaker 1: with angels and demons.

40:15 Speaker 2: And I don't think it's fair to bring your faith.

40:19 Speaker 1: I think it's okay, it's it's totally fair to have faith,

40:22 Speaker 1: to be religious, but you cannot bring that in to

40:25 Speaker 1: the to a laboratory style setting. Not that this phenomenon

40:35 Speaker 1: can be put in a laboratory. But you know what

40:37 Speaker 1: I mean, m.

40:38 Speaker 4: Hm, no, I I totally agree. I mean Luel's on

40:42 Speaker 4: his Inminet chapter eight, Angels and Demons. He brings that

40:44 Speaker 4: whole conversation at the table right exactly.

40:48 Speaker 1: So continue with So your friend is is he's pushing

40:55 Speaker 1: the you know, he's pushing the angelic thing on you.

41:00 Speaker 1: There's no doubt Chris Bloodsoe and the Bloodsoe family rying included,

41:05 Speaker 1: they definitely come off thinking kind of the same thing.

41:12 Speaker 2: Do you. What scares me is.

41:19 Speaker 1: Tom DeLong and these people in the government. You know,

41:23 Speaker 1: Tom DeLong to the Stars Academy. I know it was

41:27 Speaker 1: involved with Alizondo obviously and all them, but you know.

41:32 Speaker 2: It's clear that Tom.

41:35 Speaker 1: Is also under the belief that we're dealing with either

41:39 Speaker 1: not maybe not angels and demons.

41:41 Speaker 4: But.

41:43 Speaker 1: Highly malevolent and highly benevolent. But then also you know neutral.

41:51 Speaker 4: My question to Tom too, with these types of things

41:54 Speaker 4: is how is that a national security problem? Why can't

41:57 Speaker 4: we get an understanding of why it is such h

42:00 Speaker 4: you know what it makes them elevolent? What doesn't and

42:03 Speaker 4: if they are an eleven, shouldn't we have the right

42:05 Speaker 4: to know being you know, citizens, and being concerned for

42:07 Speaker 4: our own safety if that's the truth, right, like.

42:11 Speaker 1: Some shadow being that could walk into your fucking house,

42:14 Speaker 1: right via the hitchhiker effect, you know. And you don't

42:21 Speaker 1: even know to prepare yourself for that kind of stuff

42:23 Speaker 1: because you're taught, and you're and you're you're groomed through

42:28 Speaker 1: life to ridicule that ship and then it ends up

42:31 Speaker 1: happening to you, and you think you're going crazy, and

42:35 Speaker 1: then they put you on Men's and then they dumb

42:37 Speaker 1: you down and uh, put you in the looney bin,

42:41 Speaker 1: or at least that's how it was.

42:42 Speaker 2: For a long time. Yeah, exactly.

42:47 Speaker 1: And you know another person, I'm having Doughty back on

42:50 Speaker 1: the show this month. Uh and you know, the Benowitz

42:54 Speaker 1: thing kills me and I know it kills him too.

42:58 Speaker 2: But let's get back. You're talking about a message that

43:04 Speaker 2: was sent. How is this message set?

43:07 Speaker 3: So I was actually listening to Matt Ford's podcast and

43:13 Speaker 3: you don't like him.

43:15 Speaker 2: I didn't say that.

43:16 Speaker 3: Hey, I listened to everyone's because.

43:18 Speaker 2: Here I didn't say that.

43:19 Speaker 3: Wait yeah, no, no, no, no, I hear here's the thing.

43:22 Speaker 4: You can sat with him lately Okay, okay, I just think, yeah,

43:28 Speaker 4: was it with the skin Walker thing?

43:31 Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind of had it out on that because

43:34 Speaker 1: I am.

43:35 Speaker 4: I hear it both ways because but I also think too, like,

43:38 Speaker 4: in order to get this type of thing with the

43:40 Speaker 4: you know, the private aerospace, you have to there what

43:42 Speaker 4: are the routes? But hopefully they have the you know,

43:45 Speaker 4: but we won't go down that route.

43:46 Speaker 2: Eminent domain cannot be included.

43:49 Speaker 1: And if it is included, it needs to be limited

43:52 Speaker 1: to people that have government contracts only, and government contracts

44:01 Speaker 1: specifically dealing with the advanced UH advance what anything you

44:10 Speaker 1: know that they would have to be tinkered with you.

44:15 Speaker 1: It can't be blanket because what all of a sudden,

44:20 Speaker 1: we just want to give control to the same government

44:22 Speaker 1: that's fucking lied to us for ninety years.

44:25 Speaker 2: We want to give them blanket.

44:26 Speaker 1: Control of just seizing all civilian research. If they wanted to.

44:34 Speaker 4: Ask you the question this, who do you who do

44:36 Speaker 4: you have more trust or faith in doing the right things?

44:39 Speaker 2: Civilian scientists?

44:41 Speaker 1: Okay, not the government. Okay, they lost their chance. Okay,

44:48 Speaker 1: they had ninety years. Okay, they chose a.

44:51 Speaker 4: Lot of the government with these private aerospace, don't they

44:53 Speaker 4: Also the reason how they get vetted is through knowing

44:56 Speaker 4: that they've gone through these governments. So it's like hand

44:59 Speaker 4: and hand and it's like but now they're civilian, but

45:01 Speaker 4: they've gone through it, and so kind of you looking at

45:04 Speaker 4: both perspectives of like you know they've been there.

45:08 Speaker 1: Yeah, but what really is at stake is eminent domain.

45:14 Speaker 1: They could and and why I'm specifically why why Brandon

45:19 Speaker 1: is specifically.

45:23 Speaker 2: Not he's not even the guy has.

45:25 Speaker 1: No time for active lobbying against the bill or eminent

45:31 Speaker 1: domain clause, but he had spoken out about it, saying

45:36 Speaker 1: and Jacques Valat has spoken up, spoke out about it,

45:40 Speaker 1: stood up at the Salt or Saul conference and said,

45:45 Speaker 1: like eminent domain, what does that mean? I have materials

45:48 Speaker 1: like could the government just come and take what I have?

45:52 Speaker 4: Right?

45:52 Speaker 2: And Brandon in Brandon's case, in Jacques Valai's case, and

45:56 Speaker 2: many other people like Gary Nolan in all their cases Avila,

46:00 Speaker 2: et cetera, so on and so forth.

46:03 Speaker 1: They they have all put money into it out of

46:06 Speaker 1: their own pockets. So and and skinwalk a ranch. What

46:10 Speaker 1: if the government just came and said we're claiming this

46:13 Speaker 1: land after he's invested.

46:17 Speaker 2: Not only you can see by the technology by the way, just.

46:22 Speaker 1: What he's what he's put on that ranch. Because I've

46:27 Speaker 1: had Chris Bartel on the show. What Bigelow had it

46:30 Speaker 1: set up as was not what we think. They barely

46:37 Speaker 1: had the surveillance cameras. It was very low tech, very

46:42 Speaker 1: very very A lot of Chris Bartell thinks a lot

46:47 Speaker 1: of the money from os app and that contract did

46:50 Speaker 1: not go to actually go to Skinwalker ranch.

46:53 Speaker 2: It went to something else. But we won't get into

46:56 Speaker 2: that here.

46:56 Speaker 1: But so the eminent domain thing is Brandon just doesn't

47:01 Speaker 1: want them to be able to come and take skin

47:02 Speaker 1: Corran and I think that's fair.

47:06 Speaker 3: I agree on that. And so you would you.

47:08 Speaker 1: Want them to be able to come take your videos

47:11 Speaker 1: and your evidence that you're compiling that you're having these

47:14 Speaker 1: experiences because you are all of a sudden on a

47:20 Speaker 1: on a watch list because you're having uh, prolonged contact

47:25 Speaker 1: with these supposed uh you know, malevolent beings. Well that

47:30 Speaker 1: could happen if if we start giving them blanket control.

47:34 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean.

47:35 Speaker 4: I also think, so what's your thought process on who

47:39 Speaker 4: has u AP and all that sort. Do you have,

47:42 Speaker 4: like your suspicions on who's absolutely who is it? Okay,

47:47 Speaker 4: so these private aerospaces, So what's your solution for that?

47:51 Speaker 3: Then? Like, how do we we.

47:53 Speaker 2: Need to meet them? Mathway?

47:55 Speaker 1: I agree they need to listen. If we threaten handcuffs,

48:01 Speaker 1: no one's coming forward. Yep, shell game will be played.

48:06 Speaker 3: You have to think about the person on the other

48:08 Speaker 3: side of it. And I think we.

48:10 Speaker 2: Have to incentivize bringing humanity into the next level of technology,

48:19 Speaker 2: technologicals like clean energy. Right, we know it's there.

48:29 Speaker 1: We know people have built Stanley Myers has built a

48:32 Speaker 1: car that can run on water.

48:33 Speaker 2: Why the fodge is it? Why is that not being

48:40 Speaker 2: mass produced? Why is Come on?

48:44 Speaker 1: Guys, think for a second. Patents thousands per year get

48:52 Speaker 1: sees on alternative energy alone and they get slapped in

48:58 Speaker 1: a national security order, meaning the person can only then

49:03 Speaker 1: do business with the United.

49:05 Speaker 2: States government, no one else because if you do if.

49:09 Speaker 1: You if it's treason if you if you, if you

49:12 Speaker 1: do it with anyone else, because the patent has been

49:15 Speaker 1: seized under a national security order.

49:17 Speaker 2: Once they slapped out on it, it's as checkmate.

49:21 Speaker 1: So we need to be careful with with We're I'm

49:25 Speaker 1: willing to meet the military industrial complex halfway, but it

49:29 Speaker 1: needs to be half way, so I want to keep

49:35 Speaker 1: the story on you though, So.

49:37 Speaker 4: You actually made it perfectly because this message that I received,

49:40 Speaker 4: it was, uh, Matt Ford was talking about this.

49:43 Speaker 3: I think it was like a financial advisor.

49:46 Speaker 4: About you know that, and they were literally talking about

49:48 Speaker 4: like Northrore up and you know, in coming forward and

49:51 Speaker 4: all this stuff.

49:52 Speaker 3: And I remember going.

49:53 Speaker 4: Outside and I just so it's hard to describe it,

49:57 Speaker 4: but with these orbs something and like and internally this

50:02 Speaker 4: feeling and then these thoughts just came to my head

50:04 Speaker 4: about how we need to stop these with these creating

50:09 Speaker 4: of these weapons and war profiteering and wars, because we

50:13 Speaker 4: will only lead to our destruction. And then I talk

50:17 Speaker 4: about what happened to the Pyramids and why those civilizations failed,

50:22 Speaker 4: and for me, the message that hit me the most

50:26 Speaker 4: was I need to forgive like everything that had happened

50:29 Speaker 4: to me, my family or my friends and they know

50:32 Speaker 4: what they had done not and it hit me because

50:36 Speaker 4: I wasn't talking to my family or friends. And and

50:40 Speaker 4: then I felt this like you mentioned your prero the serendipitous,

50:44 Speaker 4: the most loving feeling, and at that point orbs were

50:47 Speaker 4: just coming everywhere. And then they were like I said,

50:49 Speaker 4: getting brighter and brighter and then dimmer and dimmer is

50:51 Speaker 4: why I was having these thoughts. And I remember going

50:53 Speaker 4: like this, like I love you guys, and I'm like,

50:56 Speaker 4: this is you know, this is the message that you

50:58 Speaker 4: guys have been trying to deliver because I haven't had

51:00 Speaker 4: anything like that at all, and so it was the

51:04 Speaker 4: most like I've never felt more loved in my life.

51:10 Speaker 4: On that experience. It was the most surreal thing I

51:13 Speaker 4: could ever describe. And so for me, like having that,

51:19 Speaker 4: I didn't know what to do except for text my

51:21 Speaker 4: buddy who had experienced these orbs with because it's like,

51:23 Speaker 4: what the hell am I supposed to do with this?

51:26 Speaker 4: And I texted him He's like, well, you know, because

51:28 Speaker 4: I was I knew a guy inn Atomica and he

51:31 Speaker 4: was in the government, Like should I warn.

51:32 Speaker 3: Him and tell him about this whole thing?

51:34 Speaker 4: And then he's like, now you'll think you're a koop

51:36 Speaker 4: and all that stuff. And it was interesting with this

51:39 Speaker 4: whole Chris Bledsoe experience was I didn't know what to

51:43 Speaker 4: do with this message, and these orbs will come into

51:46 Speaker 4: picture and it's like they know what you're looking at

51:48 Speaker 4: when you're having these thoughts or something like along those

51:51 Speaker 4: lines where I was driving home from a dog park

51:54 Speaker 4: in Tanner Park and I was looking at the windshield.

51:56 Speaker 3: I'm like, shuld, what should I be doing with this message?

51:59 Speaker 4: And I'm like, should I be reaching out to someone?

52:01 Speaker 4: I feel like I need to be reaching out to someone,

52:03 Speaker 4: And then this thought of Chris Bledsoe came in my

52:05 Speaker 4: mind and that's when an orb appeared. And this is

52:08 Speaker 4: from a distance, but you can obviously see it getting

52:10 Speaker 4: bright and then and then dim out and dim out

52:13 Speaker 4: and close up.

52:13 Speaker 3: I'm like, if that isn't a sign, I don't know

52:16 Speaker 3: what is.

52:17 Speaker 4: You know, with everything else, and I'm like, you know,

52:19 Speaker 4: I think they want me to reach out to Chris.

52:22 Speaker 4: And so I reached out to Chris, but I haven't

52:24 Speaker 4: heard fromhim about this whole thing. And before I reached

52:27 Speaker 4: out to him, though it was interesting.

52:29 Speaker 3: I sent you the.

52:31 Speaker 4: About what's his name, Russell Crowe when you talked about

52:36 Speaker 4: his experiences with the music and when he was at

52:40 Speaker 4: Rome and with his mother who had passed away at

52:43 Speaker 4: the time, and the Swiss Guards band were playing a

52:48 Speaker 4: specific song where they only do like it was classical

52:52 Speaker 4: music or something like that, and for some reason when

52:55 Speaker 4: they were getting a private tour because the Vatican offered

52:58 Speaker 4: it to him, and his mother had this relationship with

53:01 Speaker 4: her husband or with her husband who had passed away

53:05 Speaker 4: with Rome that she just had She just felt like

53:09 Speaker 4: he was present there. And when they went up these

53:11 Speaker 4: elevators and the Swiss guards and were playing, they noticed

53:16 Speaker 4: that they're the song that they were playing that they

53:18 Speaker 4: shouldn't be playing because it was like a Wednesday and

53:20 Speaker 4: it was only like church music and it was the

53:23 Speaker 4: Danny Boys, like the Irish song. And it was the

53:26 Speaker 4: most coincidental thing. And part of the reason why I

53:29 Speaker 4: shared that with you was before I was feeling the

53:34 Speaker 4: confidence to come forward because of everything that I had

53:36 Speaker 4: gone through and just seeing these things, I just knew

53:39 Speaker 4: that there was a stigma attached to it, and I

53:41 Speaker 4: just was very hesitant. And coincidentally enough, I'd be on

53:46 Speaker 4: my podcast and I love Hans Zimmer all the time,

53:48 Speaker 4: and when I'm having these thoughts in my head.

53:50 Speaker 2: Oh my god, Hans is a I'm again.

53:53 Speaker 1: I'm a huge, huge movie, movie buff and book fan,

54:01 Speaker 1: and Hans has done some of the most amazing scores.

54:06 Speaker 1: I'm also a filmmaker, so like, oh, yeah. I Oh

54:11 Speaker 1: my god, he is a genius.

54:14 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I I agree maybe.

54:17 Speaker 4: And something was telling me like, listen to Hans Zimmer's podcast,

54:21 Speaker 4: and so I was listening to it, and I was.

54:23 Speaker 2: Are you talking about Hans Zimmer, the musician.

54:27 Speaker 4: The the guy who makes all the soundtrack scores, right.

54:30 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, No, he has a podcast.

54:33 Speaker 4: No, no, sorry, I meant the song. Sorry, excuse me, I'm.

54:38 Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm sorry. I was like, away, he has a podcast.

54:43 Speaker 3: I'd want to listen to.

54:45 Speaker 4: But you know, I'm having these thoughts and I'm like,

54:47 Speaker 4: I hesitant and and I was like, I'm not going

54:49 Speaker 4: to do this. This is like too much for me.

54:51 Speaker 4: And then the song Coward would coincident a lineup and

54:55 Speaker 4: I'm like, what the hell?

54:56 Speaker 3: And I'm laughing because I'm like, that's kind of coincidental.

54:59 Speaker 4: And then I I was like later, I'm just like

55:02 Speaker 4: should I be doing this? Should I be doing this?

55:04 Speaker 4: And for some reason a coincidenta go no time for

55:07 Speaker 4: caution or TikTok or time, and I'm just like, wow,

55:11 Speaker 4: that's sure.

55:12 Speaker 2: Call the synchronicity.

55:13 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, no, no, it gets more, it gets more.

55:18 Speaker 4: And so I'm like, man, I should finally do this.

55:22 Speaker 4: So I ended up doing it and reaching out. But

55:24 Speaker 4: you know, it was funny because a big monsoon kind

55:27 Speaker 4: of came coincidentally right around the time that it's finally.

55:30 Speaker 3: Had the courage to send it. I was like, man,

55:32 Speaker 3: this is all coincidental, you know.

55:35 Speaker 4: But like a week later, I'm I'm at this point,

55:39 Speaker 4: I'm just like feeling that there's something more happening where

55:42 Speaker 4: I'm feeling like a presence and I can't describe it,

55:45 Speaker 4: and something's telling me to go to Tanner Park. So

55:47 Speaker 4: if you're a Salt Lake City native, it's a dog park,

55:50 Speaker 4: and I sent you a video of kind of like

55:52 Speaker 4: the canyon.

55:54 Speaker 2: So there's a.

55:54 Speaker 3: Couple of parts.

55:56 Speaker 4: So there's the trail side and then the other side

55:58 Speaker 4: there's a wooded area. So I'm bringing my dog and

56:02 Speaker 4: we're walking on the trail area and it just had

56:04 Speaker 4: stormed that Saturday, so Saturday evening, and so no one

56:08 Speaker 4: was really there, and you kind of know who the

56:10 Speaker 4: people are going and stuff like that. I'm a very

56:12 Speaker 4: observant person, but I'm just feeling like there's something, some

56:16 Speaker 4: type of presence, and so I look across the little

56:19 Speaker 4: creek a ways and in this wooded area where no

56:23 Speaker 4: one should be at because no one goes back. There

56:25 Speaker 4: is this woman who I had never seen, and she

56:28 Speaker 4: comes out of the wooded area.

56:29 Speaker 3: I'm like, where the hell did you come from?

56:31 Speaker 2: Coloring?

56:33 Speaker 4: She was wearing this like brown It was like kind

56:38 Speaker 4: of like an overalls, but it was like a brown

56:39 Speaker 4: cloth that was kind of there was various colors, but

56:44 Speaker 4: it was she was I don't know like how to

56:47 Speaker 4: describe it, like did.

56:48 Speaker 2: She seem out of place?

56:50 Speaker 4: Oh?

56:50 Speaker 3: One hundred percent. That's why I was like, where did

56:52 Speaker 3: you come from? And no, it gets weirder.

56:55 Speaker 1: But was she but no, no, no, no, no, no, I

56:57 Speaker 1: don't think you're hearing me. So let me rephrase that.

57:04 Speaker 1: Did she seem out of time?

57:09 Speaker 3: Was she?

57:10 Speaker 2: Was she interacting with the environment?

57:13 Speaker 4: She was literally looking at the plants as if like

57:17 Speaker 4: she was meticulously looking at them, and it was the

57:20 Speaker 4: most elegant thing.

57:21 Speaker 3: And I'm like, man, is this like was she there?

57:24 Speaker 2: There's some sort of echo?

57:26 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, I will tell you.

57:28 Speaker 4: I'll tell you more to the story ghost. No, if

57:31 Speaker 4: she wasn't a ghost, I'll tell you this.

57:32 Speaker 3: I'll tell you this.

57:33 Speaker 4: So she's like grabbing these plants and like and touching

57:36 Speaker 4: them and looking at them.

57:38 Speaker 3: Yeah, and so she's playing around with them. And the

57:40 Speaker 3: thing that.

57:40 Speaker 4: Got me like, I was just like, what the hell

57:44 Speaker 4: was So I'm like because at this point, I'm just like, Okay,

57:47 Speaker 4: where did she come from?

57:48 Speaker 3: She's looking at these plants. She's just like mother nature,

57:51 Speaker 3: you know whatever.

57:52 Speaker 4: And then she goes and she kneels down and there's

57:55 Speaker 4: this like kind of burrow like rocky area, and I

57:59 Speaker 4: kid you not, I see mice scurring from their dens

58:03 Speaker 4: towards her. And I'm looking at her hands like she no,

58:06 Speaker 4: I'm serious, and I'm looking at her. I'm like, swear

58:10 Speaker 4: to me, I swear to God.

58:14 Speaker 3: Yeah, I swear to you man. Because so it gets weirder.

58:19 Speaker 2: There's some mice running towards her.

58:23 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're scurring to her because I see because I'm

58:25 Speaker 4: looking at her, she's kneeled down and they're coming towards.

58:29 Speaker 3: I'm like, I've never seen and this.

58:30 Speaker 2: Is what she's kneeling.

58:32 Speaker 3: Yeah, she's kneeled down.

58:33 Speaker 4: She's not fully kneeled, but she's like squatted down towards them.

58:36 Speaker 4: And I'm like, so at this point, focusing engaged. I'm like,

58:41 Speaker 4: I've never seen that. And so then she comes over

58:44 Speaker 4: the tunnel where the water seeps out of and now

58:47 Speaker 4: onto the side where everyone's normally at. And at this

58:50 Speaker 4: point I'm fixated, and I'm like I and something's telling

58:53 Speaker 4: me you should interact with her and talk with her.

58:56 Speaker 4: And so she walks by. I have my dog, o Fin.

58:59 Speaker 4: She doesn't have a dog, by the way. Usually at

59:01 Speaker 4: Tanner Park usually have dogs, And so she's walking past

59:04 Speaker 4: me and and something's just telling me you should talk

59:07 Speaker 4: with her. I'm like, okay, So I start walking towards her,

59:11 Speaker 4: and then like the Hans Zimmer thing, a song comes

59:14 Speaker 4: up and it's like like a dog chasing cars, and

59:19 Speaker 4: I'm laughing at myself. I'm like, we're in a dog park,

59:21 Speaker 4: and am I chase? And I'm like, am I the dog?

59:24 Speaker 4: And I'm like I was like in my head, I'm

59:26 Speaker 4: like what the hell? So I go up to her

59:28 Speaker 4: and at this point, I'm like, are you like an animal? Whisper?

59:32 Speaker 4: And with perfect English, she had like the bluest eyes.

59:35 Speaker 4: I like, I've seen light blue eyes, you know, And

59:38 Speaker 4: she kind of she didn't seem like she belonged, but

59:42 Speaker 4: as I knew, like, I'm like and she goes, oh,

59:44 Speaker 4: you mean the foles, you know, And I was like, yeah,

59:47 Speaker 4: I didn't, so I had.

59:48 Speaker 3: To google what a fol was. It's like a meadow mouse.

59:50 Speaker 4: And I'm like yeah, and I'm like, you know, She's like, oh,

59:54 Speaker 4: I'm like do you do that often?

59:56 Speaker 3: She goes, No, that does.

59:57 Speaker 4: Only happen like a couple of times in the brush

59:59 Speaker 4: it off. I'm like, now, no, no, I've never seen anything

1:00:01 Speaker 4: like that. And then she goes on and look at

1:00:03 Speaker 4: my dog Fin and she goes, he just seems so happy.

1:00:06 Speaker 4: And I'm like thinking to myself, I'm like, yeah, you

1:00:08 Speaker 4: probably understand that, like you're probably you know, reading his

1:00:12 Speaker 4: mind or no, no.

1:00:15 Speaker 2: She's probably dude.

1:00:19 Speaker 1: She's probably some EmPATH of sort, maybe healer, like you.

1:00:32 Speaker 1: Did she have like an aura about her because she

1:00:36 Speaker 1: said she had the blue eyes?

1:00:37 Speaker 2: Yeah?

1:00:38 Speaker 3: I was gravitated. I was.

1:00:40 Speaker 2: Did you gravit? Yeah?

1:00:41 Speaker 3: I was. That's why it felt like.

1:00:44 Speaker 4: I don't know necessarily if it was like an aura,

1:00:46 Speaker 4: but I was gravitated.

1:00:48 Speaker 3: I was.

1:00:48 Speaker 2: You're compelled to go.

1:00:50 Speaker 1: I mean, not many people after seeing someone Neil and

1:00:54 Speaker 1: have what looks like mice run.

1:00:57 Speaker 3: Oh no, they were a mouse. I saw them yeah,

1:01:00 Speaker 3: you val. She's like, oh, you mean the bulls, Like yeah,

1:01:02 Speaker 3: I like.

1:01:04 Speaker 1: Right, but she even mentions them in a in a

1:01:06 Speaker 1: in a different in what what were those specifically voles?

1:01:11 Speaker 2: Voles?

1:01:11 Speaker 3: Yeah, my battery is about to die one second. Sorry,

1:01:15 Speaker 3: I need to grab this. Sorry.

1:01:17 Speaker 1: Actually we can take a quick break. It'll be a

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1:03:13 Speaker 4: So, so we're talking about this.

1:03:17 Speaker 2: Yeah, so the.

1:03:20 Speaker 1: So she references them by their true name as well. Yeah,

1:03:27 Speaker 1: so she doesn't just call moses or mice. She calls

1:03:32 Speaker 1: them by the like you had to literally go look

1:03:35 Speaker 1: it up.

1:03:36 Speaker 2: You didn't know the word. And she she was able

1:03:39 Speaker 2: to almost whisper.

1:03:41 Speaker 1: And then she's talking about your dog's feelings, and it seems,

1:03:46 Speaker 1: I don't know you came into contact with.

1:03:50 Speaker 2: I think I wouldn't be surprised if you see that

1:03:54 Speaker 2: person again.

1:03:56 Speaker 4: I you know I didn't have Yeah, I wouldn't be

1:03:58 Speaker 4: surprised either. And it was interesting you know, because then

1:04:03 Speaker 4: she goes on to say, like because you didn't have

1:04:05 Speaker 4: a dog, She's like, oh, I just like to come

1:04:06 Speaker 4: here to see the dogs.

1:04:07 Speaker 3: I don't have one for myself. I was like, okay,

1:04:09 Speaker 3: like I.

1:04:10 Speaker 4: Could see that, but it the it gets more like

1:04:15 Speaker 4: so I was explaining that day, I just was having

1:04:18 Speaker 4: just this feeling, and so I go home and I

1:04:24 Speaker 4: take my dog to the park. But I live next

1:04:26 Speaker 4: to Liberty Park, and so something just told me like

1:04:31 Speaker 4: you need to go to Liberty Park and stuff.

1:04:34 Speaker 3: Like that, and.

1:04:36 Speaker 4: I put my dog inside and I got these like

1:04:41 Speaker 4: meta glasses to you know, record so when I'm seeing

1:04:45 Speaker 4: these orbs, it's a better visual. But I ended up

1:04:49 Speaker 4: like trying them last night and they kind of suck.

1:04:51 Speaker 4: So I need, I mean, I need your equipment here,

1:04:54 Speaker 4: Tyler to help me out with. But I ended up

1:04:58 Speaker 4: getting these meta glasses. So I been wearing them and

1:05:00 Speaker 4: listening to music and throughout that whole time, you know,

1:05:04 Speaker 4: with the engagement of the like the Hans Zimmer playlist

1:05:09 Speaker 4: and stuff like that.

1:05:10 Speaker 3: Something. So I'm and walking towards Liberty Park.

1:05:15 Speaker 4: And something just kind of just like you know what

1:05:18 Speaker 4: I need to ask, like, have you been like you know,

1:05:21 Speaker 4: with these orbs and stuff, and I'm just thinking.

1:05:23 Speaker 3: Like, have you been interacting?

1:05:24 Speaker 4: And you know, you've been trying to encourage me to

1:05:27 Speaker 4: come out with this message? And all that sorts through

1:05:29 Speaker 4: these it feels like through these songs. And then you

1:05:32 Speaker 4: know at Tanner Park, you know, with that woman like

1:05:35 Speaker 4: a dog chasing cars, I'm like, are you interacting with

1:05:38 Speaker 4: me through like Spotify what I've been listening to? And

1:05:41 Speaker 4: I'm not thinking I'm gonna get a you know, I'm thinking,

1:05:44 Speaker 4: you know, this is all just coincidental. And within seconds

1:05:47 Speaker 4: after having that thought, and I know no one else

1:05:50 Speaker 4: had this capability because this is all internally, I get

1:05:54 Speaker 4: a song on the playlist and I've never heard before,

1:05:58 Speaker 4: and so I'm like, what is this? And so I

1:06:00 Speaker 4: turn it around and the title of the song is

1:06:04 Speaker 4: god sena theme. No, like I was again again just dropped.

1:06:16 Speaker 1: I didn't swear on the Total Disclosure.

1:06:20 Speaker 4: I'm getting I'm getting a tattoos of nick. I need

1:06:24 Speaker 4: to tell you more and more of what happened here

1:06:29 Speaker 4: you there.

1:06:34 Speaker 2: So you got to swear on the Total Disclosure.

1:06:37 Speaker 4: Bible, the the whole the Total Disclosure Bible. I swear

1:06:42 Speaker 4: my friends I've told this story.

1:06:44 Speaker 3: Oh no, you should.

1:06:46 Speaker 2: Start screenshoting that stuff and and videos of.

1:06:50 Speaker 4: You hearing this. I was so overwhelmed of what was

1:06:53 Speaker 4: happening and my heart, like my because I was thinking

1:06:57 Speaker 4: about the pain that I had gone through this past

1:07:00 Speaker 4: year of what had happened to me, and so at

1:07:04 Speaker 4: this point, I'm just having this conversation in my head.

1:07:06 Speaker 3: I'm like, if this is God, why did you do

1:07:10 Speaker 3: this to me?

1:07:11 Speaker 4: Like I had the girlfriend, I had the love of

1:07:14 Speaker 4: my life here with me, like I wanted to marry her,

1:07:17 Speaker 4: and you know, with my family, I pushed them away

1:07:19 Speaker 4: and all the sorts and all the traumas that had

1:07:23 Speaker 4: happened to me. You know, why did you do this?

1:07:26 Speaker 4: And I kid you not. This song kicks in and

1:07:29 Speaker 4: the next song of it is titled Great Sacrifices by

1:07:33 Speaker 4: Daniel Sierra Alitzi or Alitso, and I'm just at this

1:07:38 Speaker 4: point like bawling, just being like I didn't deserve this,

1:07:42 Speaker 4: Like I wanted to marry Sherlah, like that's my most

1:07:46 Speaker 4: important person in my life, and like yeah, yeah, I

1:07:51 Speaker 4: was like I lost her because of this whole thing.

1:07:54 Speaker 3: And the next.

1:07:55 Speaker 4: Song of it was Great Sacrifice by Clinton in shorter

1:07:59 Speaker 4: h and So at that point, I'm up on the

1:08:06 Speaker 4: top of the hill Liberty Park by myself, and I

1:08:11 Speaker 4: don't have my glasses on because I'm just so overwhelmed

1:08:14 Speaker 4: of what I had just witnessed and experience.

1:08:17 Speaker 2: Because I'm overwhelmed just listening.

1:08:19 Speaker 4: No one else had what I had in like, no

1:08:23 Speaker 4: one I Those were only in my internal thoughts.

1:08:25 Speaker 3: There's no fucking way no one would be to be

1:08:28 Speaker 3: able to.

1:08:29 Speaker 4: Have done any of that and tie it up coincidentally, no, no, no, oh,

1:08:34 Speaker 4: I listen, listen, man.

1:08:36 Speaker 1: If there's one thing I and one thousand percent back

1:08:45 Speaker 1: you up on is me and my girlfriend. We haven't

1:08:52 Speaker 1: happened to us on a daily I would say, the synchronicity.

1:09:03 Speaker 1: It's to a point where it's almost alarming. So I understand, dude,

1:09:14 Speaker 1: what you're doing is you're you're putting so right. If

1:09:19 Speaker 1: we look at consciousness and we think about it like this,

1:09:26 Speaker 1: and some of my past experiences have led me to

1:09:29 Speaker 1: believe that this may be kind of along the lines

1:09:34 Speaker 1: of a theory, a theory but.

1:09:37 Speaker 2: Almost one that that explains.

1:09:42 Speaker 1: So I think our consciousness is like not because it's

1:09:47 Speaker 1: not the source, right it's the receiver. So it's so

1:09:55 Speaker 1: the signal, right, if we want to look at it

1:09:58 Speaker 1: like a radio, right or radio broadcasts, the signal is

1:10:04 Speaker 1: always there. You can smash the radio, break it.

1:10:08 Speaker 2: Apart, the signal, it's still there, right. So what you're

1:10:14 Speaker 2: doing is you're putting your consciousness out and you're getting feedback.

1:10:23 Speaker 2: You're interacting and you're getting the feedback.

1:10:28 Speaker 1: So and it's been happening to us too, and we're

1:10:33 Speaker 1: asking for it. So again, you know I and and listen,

1:10:37 Speaker 1: I haven't I haven't talked about this.

1:10:39 Speaker 2: I only I'm only talking.

1:10:40 Speaker 1: About it to back you up and saying that you're

1:10:43 Speaker 1: not the route you're going. Like, I know it's hard

1:10:47 Speaker 1: for people to believe, but.

1:10:51 Speaker 4: It's really I know what I saw and I have

1:10:56 Speaker 4: one hundred percent to this day.

1:10:58 Speaker 3: And the thing that I was explaining is when I

1:11:00 Speaker 3: put the glasses on.

1:11:01 Speaker 4: Do you know that video I.

1:11:02 Speaker 3: Sent you, you know on the hill?

1:11:05 Speaker 2: Yep?

1:11:05 Speaker 4: So I was thinking of Sheila and everything it had happened,

1:11:09 Speaker 4: and and then something told me to put on those

1:11:11 Speaker 4: glasses and so I'm by myself looking because I thought

1:11:14 Speaker 4: they were going to tell me like an org was coming.

1:11:16 Speaker 4: Because that's generally sometimes what will happen. So I start,

1:11:19 Speaker 4: they said, you know, so I start recording it, and

1:11:22 Speaker 4: that's when some random stranger, you know, ninth nine.

1:11:27 Speaker 2: Saying, oh my god. Now when I put it into context.

1:11:35 Speaker 4: Yeap, oh my god, yep.

1:11:40 Speaker 1: Now and oh my god, the contcause remember when I

1:11:48 Speaker 1: I texted you back, I was like, what am I

1:11:50 Speaker 1: looking for you?

1:11:51 Speaker 2: What am I getting out of this?

1:11:53 Speaker 3: Yeah?

1:11:55 Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, the context of what he says clear as day.

1:12:02 Speaker 1: Yeah, he says something about females.

1:12:07 Speaker 2: It was.

1:12:09 Speaker 1: Like, yeah, it was. It was a bit vulgar in

1:12:12 Speaker 1: its nature. But he says something along the lines of

1:12:16 Speaker 1: don't date them, They're just gonna cheat on you or

1:12:19 Speaker 1: something like that. And wow, the context of that now

1:12:25 Speaker 1: seems way different.

1:12:28 Speaker 4: And that was right when everything was That's what I'm saying.

1:12:31 Speaker 4: It's the most surreal experience. I I, you know, was

1:12:35 Speaker 4: having a hard time putting in the words like what

1:12:38 Speaker 4: I had just witnessed.

1:12:41 Speaker 3: Because.

1:12:43 Speaker 1: With that one now I can feel that, Yeah, I

1:12:46 Speaker 1: can feel that because I genuinely was like, I watched

1:12:49 Speaker 1: the whole video and I was like, what is this?

1:12:52 Speaker 1: And honestly, I was like, what the fuck did I

1:12:54 Speaker 1: just watch like, I don't understand what the meaning of

1:12:57 Speaker 1: that was.

1:12:58 Speaker 2: I was like, was that was I looking for something

1:13:00 Speaker 2: in like an orb or something like?

1:13:02 Speaker 3: That's that's when I first thought.

1:13:04 Speaker 2: A lot of text of it and oh my god. Wow.

1:13:09 Speaker 1: So I guess I'll have to play that one right here.

1:13:13 Speaker 1: But it's like one fourteen. Yeah, but yeah, so I listen.

1:13:23 Speaker 1: I just I want to ask you something.

1:13:26 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think we've because you've told the stories now.

1:13:31 Speaker 4: But I got I got a few.

1:13:33 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.

1:13:34 Speaker 3: Yeah, But.

1:13:38 Speaker 1: I'm gonna bait you here. I'm gonna give you an

1:13:40 Speaker 1: an ended question. So what is contact? I've always wondered, right,

1:13:48 Speaker 1: what is contact? Uh with another species? What that would

1:13:54 Speaker 1: look like? What kind of form that would take? Now,

1:14:01 Speaker 1: it could take physical, right, We've heard of others that

1:14:06 Speaker 1: are like colepathic. It seems like yours is through these

1:14:10 Speaker 1: sightings but also.

1:14:13 Speaker 2: Through these synchronicities. So what do you think you're dealing

1:14:17 Speaker 2: with here?

1:14:18 Speaker 3: I know something is interacting me.

1:14:20 Speaker 4: I can tell you with the orbs, Like late at night,

1:14:25 Speaker 4: I was looking out in the stars and when I

1:14:29 Speaker 4: finally had this feeling that you know, being a pharmacist

1:14:32 Speaker 4: is very valid.

1:14:33 Speaker 3: Sorry, my dog's here very validating for me.

1:14:38 Speaker 4: But then I'm like, is this whole going through this

1:14:41 Speaker 4: trauma of everything that I had dealt with as well

1:14:44 Speaker 4: as just these new experiences with these orbs, is this

1:14:47 Speaker 4: is my purpose? And I have it on my Instagram

1:14:51 Speaker 4: of this light flickering and it was similar to Chris

1:14:54 Speaker 4: Bledsoe's but it starts, you know, and as soon as

1:14:57 Speaker 4: I had that thought, it starts blinking and and blinking

1:15:00 Speaker 4: and blinking and blinking, and that like fifty seconds in

1:15:02 Speaker 4: the video you see something come.

1:15:03 Speaker 3: In right to the right of it.

1:15:05 Speaker 4: And it was like one of those moments where it's like,

1:15:07 Speaker 4: this is why I was put on Earth is to

1:15:10 Speaker 4: bring up this topic. And you know, understand that I

1:15:14 Speaker 4: am forgiving the people who have done things to me,

1:15:16 Speaker 4: and I'm not blaming my family or friends or anything

1:15:18 Speaker 4: like that, but it's coming through for forgiveness and bringing

1:15:22 Speaker 4: people together and loving each other. And instead of like

1:15:25 Speaker 4: you know, wars and war profit doing that, we have

1:15:27 Speaker 4: to come together. We're at an existential crisis, is what

1:15:30 Speaker 4: I was getting at. And so it's through those contacts

1:15:34 Speaker 4: where I have it on my most recent Instagram too,

1:15:37 Speaker 4: of just like them, like responding to me like conscientiously,

1:15:41 Speaker 4: like they are responding, and when you say contact, I

1:15:44 Speaker 4: think it could.

1:15:44 Speaker 3: Be through a matter of ways, you know, but clearly.

1:15:47 Speaker 4: Conscientiousness is something that we just really haven't looked at,

1:15:51 Speaker 4: you know, like the Schrodinger effect.

1:15:53 Speaker 1: People are so afraid, scientists are so afraid to able

1:16:01 Speaker 1: on consciousness like you.

1:16:06 Speaker 3: I think so true. I think right.

1:16:07 Speaker 2: Now, right now, if you're a scientist who's trying to

1:16:13 Speaker 2: get funding for consciousness, and if it's not a secret

1:16:17 Speaker 2: government program, no, they will laugh you the go out

1:16:23 Speaker 2: of the room.

1:16:24 Speaker 4: That's the saddest thing because people like myself who are

1:16:26 Speaker 4: civilians are experiencing this. Shouldn't we be looking at this

1:16:30 Speaker 4: as a scientific approach.

1:16:32 Speaker 1: No, because they said they've determined that, you know, because

1:16:37 Speaker 1: it's a giant boys club, right, that's what science has become,

1:16:42 Speaker 1: is mainstream science at least. Uh, it's it's a boys

1:16:45 Speaker 1: club of people who don't want to challenge the status quote.

1:16:50 Speaker 1: They don't want to challenge a narrative because they don't

1:16:53 Speaker 1: want to be the one who's ulstracized and isn't getting

1:16:55 Speaker 1: their funding.

1:16:57 Speaker 2: They're not the one, they're the ones.

1:16:59 Speaker 1: They're that are they want to stay right inside the

1:17:04 Speaker 1: lines of what's acceptable. And even if they ponder these things,

1:17:12 Speaker 1: they don't do it at work.

1:17:15 Speaker 3: Right, I can.

1:17:17 Speaker 4: Here's the thing to think that.

1:17:19 Speaker 1: They don't think about what everyone else thinks about, like religion,

1:17:25 Speaker 1: you know, like what happens after we die? Because that's

1:17:28 Speaker 1: religion in my mind, is it equals the question of

1:17:33 Speaker 1: why we're here?

1:17:34 Speaker 2: Why what happens to us after death?

1:17:37 Speaker 1: Those are the existential questions that religion was built to

1:17:42 Speaker 1: try to make people comfortable with.

1:17:44 Speaker 2: But I think there's such a such a.

1:17:48 Speaker 1: Bigger story than than even what our current religions could

1:17:54 Speaker 1: even fathom. I think they all have a little piece

1:17:57 Speaker 1: of the puzzle, and I think it's us being factionalized.

1:18:01 Speaker 2: That's the fucking problem. If we all step.

1:18:04 Speaker 1: Back, dissolve border lines on that fake ass map, and

1:18:11 Speaker 1: started working together, I know it would not be overnight.

1:18:14 Speaker 1: This sounds like, you know, but if we can all

1:18:17 Speaker 1: magically just get along, literally magically get along, there would

1:18:25 Speaker 1: be no stopping the human race. And think about it, like,

1:18:32 Speaker 1: and that's where religion can come in handy, because then

1:18:35 Speaker 1: we have stories like all right.

1:18:37 Speaker 2: Do you need an example? Everyone, Well, the Tower of

1:18:41 Speaker 2: babble Man got too close to God. God struck man down,

1:18:49 Speaker 2: divided their languages, split them up so they could not

1:18:54 Speaker 2: convene and build themselves back up. Think about it, Think

1:19:00 Speaker 2: about it? Right, So there are clearly truths just to

1:19:08 Speaker 2: to legend, we just have to separate the wheat from

1:19:14 Speaker 2: the chaff. If you have to understand what it means

1:19:16 Speaker 2: to you, not to Joe, not to Billy, but to

1:19:20 Speaker 2: you and Andy, what does it mean to you? What is

1:19:24 Speaker 2: what is what is happening to you? Meaning to you?

1:19:30 Speaker 4: You know, I think there is a purpose for why

1:19:33 Speaker 4: I'm here, and they're helping me guide or help guiding me.

1:19:37 Speaker 4: And they're also I don't know, I think for me

1:19:40 Speaker 4: like I have nothing but sheer positivity towards this whole,

1:19:44 Speaker 4: you know, these orbs and all that sorts, and they

1:19:47 Speaker 4: seem to be, you know, obviously knowing every move that

1:19:51 Speaker 4: I'm making of some sort. So I know for a

1:19:54 Speaker 4: fact that they know well at advance what I'm going

1:19:57 Speaker 4: to be doing. And I can't it's hard to like

1:19:59 Speaker 4: kind of describe, but from my experiences with everything, they

1:20:03 Speaker 4: know everything that you're going to be doing before you

1:20:05 Speaker 4: do it, and they also understand so it's.

1:20:09 Speaker 2: Almost so it's almost I don't mean to I'm so

1:20:12 Speaker 2: sorry I cut you off. Keep going.

1:20:13 Speaker 3: No, No, it's fine if you want to clarify.

1:20:15 Speaker 1: No, no, and you.

1:20:17 Speaker 4: Need to tell me to shut the hell up and

1:20:18 Speaker 4: talk about it.

1:20:19 Speaker 2: No.

1:20:19 Speaker 1: No, I have a bad habit of interrupting, and I

1:20:23 Speaker 1: need to be better with that. So I'm calling myself

1:20:27 Speaker 1: out right now. I think I've done it to you

1:20:29 Speaker 1: like twice, h And I apologize.

1:20:32 Speaker 3: I haven't noticed, so don't worry about it.

1:20:35 Speaker 2: So, but that's how I get.

1:20:36 Speaker 1: I get in like discussion mode, like it's like it's

1:20:40 Speaker 1: and that's what I think you know is different about

1:20:44 Speaker 1: my show than others, Like I fully get into a

1:20:47 Speaker 1: conversation with someone. I don't just have questions and then

1:20:52 Speaker 1: all right, answer question, answer question, answer right.

1:20:56 Speaker 2: It's like a it's a back and forth.

1:20:59 Speaker 3: Yeah mm hmm.

1:21:01 Speaker 2: So I appreciate it. Again, it is supposed to be

1:21:05 Speaker 2: about you.

1:21:06 Speaker 4: No, I want to have a discussion because I've been

1:21:09 Speaker 4: having these internal like experiences as well.

1:21:12 Speaker 2: As sometimes it's good to flesh it out with somebody.

1:21:14 Speaker 3: Yeah.

1:21:14 Speaker 4: No, that's why I kind of wanted to talk to

1:21:16 Speaker 4: you too, to hear your perspective.

1:21:18 Speaker 3: I mean you've been experienced. I've been trying to reach out.

1:21:20 Speaker 4: I you know, I I appreciate you because I've been

1:21:23 Speaker 4: reaching out to multiple people to try to get this

1:21:26 Speaker 4: out or the story be told, but also kind of

1:21:28 Speaker 4: getting perspective, and you were the one person who actually responded.

1:21:31 Speaker 4: So I want to thank you for that because if

1:21:35 Speaker 4: if it's without you, I don't think anyone would really

1:21:37 Speaker 4: be hearing what I've been experiencing because for some reason,

1:21:41 Speaker 4: I haven't been been getting for people.

1:21:46 Speaker 1: People in this community tend to get high on their

1:21:50 Speaker 1: horses and they don't want to they kind of I

1:21:57 Speaker 1: don't know, it's it's weird. But unless you unless you're

1:22:03 Speaker 1: like military, you're just part of the community, you know

1:22:10 Speaker 1: what I mean, You're just another experiencer. So as hard

1:22:15 Speaker 1: as that is to say, here, that's the way they

1:22:18 Speaker 1: see it, right, Like, unless you're a military and you

1:22:21 Speaker 1: have like flear footage and or like, build your case up, dude,

1:22:27 Speaker 1: that's what we're doing.

1:22:28 Speaker 2: That's what we're doing. We're gonna build your case up.

1:22:31 Speaker 3: Come come to you.

1:22:32 Speaker 4: I want to show you, like what I've been experiencing, that's.

1:22:36 Speaker 1: Continue continue because we only have we we only have.

1:22:41 Speaker 2: So much time left. I do have to get going.

1:22:44 Speaker 2: But so pick one last story to get to now

1:22:53 Speaker 2: and if you'd like, we can do a part two

1:22:56 Speaker 2: maybe uh in like a month or so.

1:23:03 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean.

1:23:05 Speaker 4: I'm trying to think of like because.

1:23:08 Speaker 2: The so what do you yeah? So so look or

1:23:12 Speaker 2: I'll feed you so again, I want to go back

1:23:17 Speaker 2: to this. Are you what do you think you're so.

1:23:24 Speaker 1: We talk about Stephen Greer thinks that everything is seems

1:23:31 Speaker 1: to be nice, right they if they're getting here and

1:23:35 Speaker 1: they're inter dimensional, well they've advanced past.

1:23:41 Speaker 2: War and and they're they're always.

1:23:43 Speaker 1: Going to be benevolent or or on your side in

1:23:50 Speaker 1: your favor. I don't think that. I don't think that's

1:23:57 Speaker 1: the way we should look at this. Because even if

1:24:03 Speaker 1: there's a neutral party, right one that literally doesn't care

1:24:08 Speaker 1: about our existence, it doesn't impact them. They don't like

1:24:15 Speaker 1: Indifference also doesn't mean malevolent, So there's a difference between that.

1:24:22 Speaker 1: There's a fine line. But you know, indifference can be

1:24:26 Speaker 1: looked at as almost a threat because it's like, all right,

1:24:30 Speaker 1: well if you're not with us, you're against us, and

1:24:33 Speaker 1: but that's dangerous in a military we can't look at

1:24:36 Speaker 1: this like a military. Would we need to look at

1:24:38 Speaker 1: this like a speakcies would yeah.

1:24:43 Speaker 4: Like you know what would Corl now said, like, you know,

1:24:46 Speaker 4: everyone has resources and all that sorts, and.

1:24:49 Speaker 1: You know, right, because we're I hate when people make

1:24:53 Speaker 1: the comparison, Oh, we're just like ants to them.

1:24:56 Speaker 2: No we're not. No, we're not.

1:24:58 Speaker 1: We're human beings. We're we we are, We've our world.

1:25:03 Speaker 2: We've manipulated it. We have done things that clearly are

1:25:08 Speaker 2: rare in the solar system.

1:25:10 Speaker 3: But is it rare to them? Like have they've already

1:25:12 Speaker 3: done that?

1:25:13 Speaker 1: You're right, right, but but but I'm saying, there's no

1:25:16 Speaker 1: way they look at us like ants, right the way

1:25:20 Speaker 1: we look at ants as like that would mean like

1:25:23 Speaker 1: stepping on us, like on their way to work, Like.

1:25:26 Speaker 4: I mean, that's not clearly interacting with us conscientiously of

1:25:29 Speaker 4: some sorts and so.

1:25:30 Speaker 1: But yeah, but clearly that's not the case. They're not

1:25:33 Speaker 1: stepping on us on there on our way to work.

1:25:36 Speaker 1: You know, they're they're not. You know this, We're still

1:25:41 Speaker 1: here having the conversation. They haven't wiped us off the

1:25:43 Speaker 1: map yet, We're we're still essentially here. So I'm gonna

1:25:47 Speaker 1: go with that. There's probably some good, some bad, and

1:25:53 Speaker 1: some different.

1:25:54 Speaker 2: And that's just the way it is.

1:25:58 Speaker 3: Do you think they're walking among us?

1:25:59 Speaker 2: Yes, I do too.

1:26:02 Speaker 3: I'll tell you a story. Well I don't. I don't know.

1:26:04 Speaker 2: Your story earlier is proof of that.

1:26:06 Speaker 4: No, this is a different one.

1:26:08 Speaker 2: I'm saying your story earlier.

1:26:10 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know in this so Richard Dolan the reason

1:26:15 Speaker 4: why I was thinking about this. Yeah, so he talks

1:26:19 Speaker 4: about the story, you know, like Western Pennsylvania at the

1:26:21 Speaker 4: church and you know, there's the woman, the really model

1:26:25 Speaker 4: looking blonde, and you know, male going to the church

1:26:28 Speaker 4: and they're all, you know, dressed elegantly and you know,

1:26:31 Speaker 4: all that sorts, but they didn't seem to know what

1:26:33 Speaker 4: they were doing in the church adequately. So just kind

1:26:37 Speaker 4: of for context there. So I I love hooping. If

1:26:41 Speaker 4: I if we're recording, i'd be hooping right now. I

1:26:43 Speaker 4: hoop like basically every day. So, oh, the Celtics won

1:26:48 Speaker 4: the championship this year.

1:26:51 Speaker 1: Yeah I I I used to be like a big

1:26:57 Speaker 1: into sports.

1:26:58 Speaker 2: Basketball never won.

1:27:01 Speaker 1: But you know, I uh hooping, I've never like I thought,

1:27:06 Speaker 1: you mean hula hoopin.

1:27:07 Speaker 4: Oh, gotcha, gotcha?

1:27:09 Speaker 3: Gotcha.

1:27:09 Speaker 4: So let me give you context of this.

1:27:12 Speaker 3: So playing yeah, okay.

1:27:17 Speaker 4: So I was playing at the rec center and I

1:27:20 Speaker 4: played with a bunch of regulars. So a guy who

1:27:22 Speaker 4: I had played at the murals with, if you know

1:27:24 Speaker 4: the context of like shooting for teams, so you make one,

1:27:28 Speaker 4: you go on one team, yeah, and alternating it, right,

1:27:31 Speaker 4: So give me perspective. So I make it, and then

1:27:33 Speaker 4: my buddy makes it, and so a couple of guys

1:27:36 Speaker 4: that we'd never seen before start shooting and they look normal,

1:27:39 Speaker 4: normal white kids you know in Utah, of course, and

1:27:42 Speaker 4: he shoots the shot, and usually if you played basketball enough,

1:27:44 Speaker 4: you know like, okay, what's a guy who's never played

1:27:47 Speaker 4: basketball versus what who someone who has? And he has

1:27:50 Speaker 4: a good form on his free throw and he sinks it.

1:27:52 Speaker 4: And so at the time I'm like, okay, go to

1:27:55 Speaker 4: my buddies team, and my buddy's like encouraging him, like hey,

1:27:57 Speaker 4: come over here, and he's literally looking I in contact

1:28:01 Speaker 4: my buddy and we're like, hey, you know all the

1:28:04 Speaker 4: you know, physical body language, you know, and as as

1:28:07 Speaker 4: well as the verbal communications like you're supposed to be

1:28:09 Speaker 4: on his team. Literally turns around, gets back in the

1:28:11 Speaker 4: line and we're like, what the hell did that just happen.

1:28:14 Speaker 4: That was so weird, like, and we're laughing at each other,

1:28:16 Speaker 4: like does the guy not like you? Like what's going

1:28:18 Speaker 4: on here? And so then his other buddy that they

1:28:21 Speaker 4: look very identical, he shoots his shot, does this exact

1:28:25 Speaker 4: same thing, sinks it, and since his buddy didn't go

1:28:28 Speaker 4: on the team, we're like, okay, now you're gonna go

1:28:30 Speaker 4: on my other but my buddy's team now since he

1:28:32 Speaker 4: didn't want to make it, And so we do the

1:28:33 Speaker 4: exact same thing of like, hey, you're just supposed to

1:28:35 Speaker 4: be over there, looks at him eye contact wise, and

1:28:38 Speaker 4: just gets back in the line, and we're like, what

1:28:40 Speaker 4: the hell, And we're so my buddy and I are

1:28:43 Speaker 4: laughing because I'm like, he must not like you he

1:28:45 Speaker 4: wants to be on my team or something, and we're like, yeah,

1:28:47 Speaker 4: that's so weird. So at this point, now everyone's alternating

1:28:50 Speaker 4: teams that there's more and more and now they're back

1:28:52 Speaker 4: in at the front of the line shooting free throws.

1:28:54 Speaker 4: But now there's more people on each team. And but

1:28:57 Speaker 4: this time, you know, if he makes it, he's still

1:28:59 Speaker 4: going to be on buddies team. So I'm thinking to myself, Oh,

1:29:01 Speaker 4: he's gonna miss the shot for sure because he doesn't

1:29:04 Speaker 4: want to be on the team. So he sinks it

1:29:06 Speaker 4: does the exact same thing. And at this point there's

1:29:08 Speaker 4: more people, so there's more of this like social interaction.

1:29:11 Speaker 4: They're like, oh, you're on our team, and you know

1:29:13 Speaker 4: what he does. He looks at him and goes, oh,

1:29:16 Speaker 4: so that's what we're supposed to be doing. What and

1:29:23 Speaker 4: so like what the fuck? So we're laughing and my

1:29:26 Speaker 4: buddy on the other because I've told him the story,

1:29:29 Speaker 4: h or because Ben he goes, I have never seen

1:29:32 Speaker 4: that happen in my life, and I'm laughing because I'm like,

1:29:34 Speaker 4: I haven't either. So his other buddy gets now in

1:29:37 Speaker 4: line and he's still and he can make it and

1:29:39 Speaker 4: he can go on the same team basically, and he

1:29:41 Speaker 4: shoots it and he kind of gives the nod approval.

1:29:43 Speaker 4: Oh that's what we're doing. It's like, what the hell

1:29:46 Speaker 4: is going on? And these guys, so we're we started

1:29:49 Speaker 4: to play and we're they're making the shots or they

1:29:53 Speaker 4: they're they're playing like like fundamental basketball, so you know

1:29:56 Speaker 4: what they're doing, but they're just doing some.

1:29:58 Speaker 3: Weird things where you're like, what's going on?

1:30:00 Speaker 4: Like for instance, we're checking the ball up and like

1:30:03 Speaker 4: the guy is now thinking like he's on defense when

1:30:05 Speaker 4: he should be on offense or something along those lines,

1:30:08 Speaker 4: something like really just like around yeah, but he knew

1:30:11 Speaker 4: he So this is where it's like it's like, okay, yeah,

1:30:15 Speaker 4: but he can shoot. But he can shoot, but he

1:30:19 Speaker 4: can here's the thing. He could shoot and he can dribble,

1:30:21 Speaker 4: and he could pass more competently than someone who's never

1:30:23 Speaker 4: played before.

1:30:24 Speaker 3: So it's like the.

1:30:26 Speaker 4: The disconnect was there of like, Okay, you can shoot

1:30:28 Speaker 4: past play, but you're just doing some weird things that

1:30:30 Speaker 4: don't make any sense. And it came a point where

1:30:32 Speaker 4: my other buddy who's on his team, Jack goes, when

1:30:35 Speaker 4: he's talking about he's like, have you ever played basketball

1:30:37 Speaker 4: before in your life? And he goes, oh, yeah, all

1:30:39 Speaker 4: the time, you know. And so we're like, huh, that's weird.

1:30:43 Speaker 4: So came a point where he turns the ball over.

1:30:46 Speaker 4: Now I'm on the opposite side of the court, okay,

1:30:49 Speaker 4: and I'm thinking of this whole Richard Dolan story of

1:30:52 Speaker 4: you know, aliens among us and stuff, and so he's

1:30:55 Speaker 4: on the opposite side, and so I'm on the corner

1:31:00 Speaker 4: and I point to my buddy aut and that guy

1:31:03 Speaker 4: is an alien and there's like a very soft tone

1:31:05 Speaker 4: like so it's only me and him could hear it?

1:31:07 Speaker 3: And they're on the opposite side of the court.

1:31:09 Speaker 4: And I kid you not. He sprints out the gym

1:31:14 Speaker 4: and goes and leaves, doesn't pick up his bag or nothing.

1:31:18 Speaker 4: And I I look at my buddy Jack because Jack

1:31:20 Speaker 4: was on the other side. He's like, I don't know,

1:31:21 Speaker 4: he just got bug eyed and left. And I was

1:31:23 Speaker 4: like that he's such, he was weird and we haven't

1:31:26 Speaker 4: seen him.

1:31:29 Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

1:31:33 Speaker 4: So he there's no way he would have heard me

1:31:36 Speaker 4: in in the middle of the pickup game, literally without

1:31:40 Speaker 4: grabbing his his phone, his you know nothing, no bag, nothing,

1:31:44 Speaker 4: literally walks out of the gym and leaves. And I

1:31:47 Speaker 4: was watching it because I kind of felt like, uh,

1:31:51 Speaker 4: did I just like, dude, I have I swear on

1:31:58 Speaker 4: the total Why do you think I'm feel so confident

1:32:00 Speaker 4: coming forward about this stuff?

1:32:02 Speaker 1: Dude, you're like a main character in a fucking short

1:32:05 Speaker 1: film I want to make. I think that's what we're

1:32:08 Speaker 1: gonna do. Uh, this is this is insanity. If what

1:32:13 Speaker 1: you're saying is is what.

1:32:16 Speaker 3: You can call it.

1:32:17 Speaker 4: Texta jag or and then you can talk about Rob.

1:32:22 Speaker 4: They didn't he so god, Ben and Jagg weren't there,

1:32:27 Speaker 4: like when I was pointing to Alic when I said that,

1:32:29 Speaker 4: but they knew the exact time he walked out.

1:32:31 Speaker 3: And he's like, dude, that was weird. And I told

1:32:32 Speaker 3: him the story and they're like, yeah.

1:32:34 Speaker 2: Like yeah, but well we'll talk like but okay, I'm

1:32:40 Speaker 2: I so that is that is? That is really odd.

1:32:45 Speaker 4: I felt bad. I was like if did I like say,

1:32:48 Speaker 4: you know.

1:32:48 Speaker 2: It's like did it echo? And is there any chance

1:32:51 Speaker 2: that it echoed?

1:32:52 Speaker 3: There's no way. There's no way. He was on a

1:32:54 Speaker 3: loud jim.

1:32:54 Speaker 4: It's a lowed jim and They're on the opposite side

1:32:56 Speaker 4: of the court and I'm in the corner and I

1:32:58 Speaker 4: literally like, leno where and I'm like that guys, And

1:33:01 Speaker 4: then he walks out and and even if he.

1:33:03 Speaker 3: Heard that, why would you leave? Who cares?

1:33:05 Speaker 4: Like what's what?

1:33:05 Speaker 3: Are you running out of the gym.

1:33:07 Speaker 2: Because he got exposed? You fucking figured it out? I

1:33:12 Speaker 2: don't know.

1:33:13 Speaker 1: Frank yes, superhering and he was literally just you know,

1:33:20 Speaker 1: like that, yeah, I think.

1:33:27 Speaker 2: I don't know. I I I definitely want to have

1:33:30 Speaker 2: another conversation with you. Uh, so we'll do a part

1:33:33 Speaker 2: two on this, maybe sooner than.

1:33:39 Speaker 1: A month, because I would like to I there's a

1:33:46 Speaker 1: lot more I want to talk about.

1:33:47 Speaker 4: But you want to come out and just see these

1:33:50 Speaker 4: things with Well.

1:33:52 Speaker 1: I don't have it like that yet where I can

1:33:55 Speaker 1: just pick up and go, but I will plan something

1:33:59 Speaker 1: a court, but uh, we will talk. But how so,

1:34:04 Speaker 1: it's it is it's safe to say that. So you're

1:34:08 Speaker 1: seeing orbs and this is just a recap for the audience.

1:34:12 Speaker 1: So your name is Andy tom to Naga, Andy tom Naga.

1:34:22 Speaker 1: You're from Salt Lake, Utah, Salt Lake City, and you're

1:34:31 Speaker 1: seeing orbs on a consistent basis and some sort of

1:34:37 Speaker 1: interaction is happening on a weird conscious level through technology.

1:34:46 Speaker 2: Oh god, I do it?

1:34:47 Speaker 4: Came you said technology? And there it is there.

1:34:51 Speaker 2: It is failing.

1:34:53 Speaker 1: But I think you have a wild story, dude, and

1:34:57 Speaker 1: I would love to dig into it further.

1:35:00 Speaker 2: Where can people follow you and and what you're what

1:35:02 Speaker 2: you're doing, what's your.

1:35:03 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not trying to do this whole like social.

1:35:05 Speaker 1: No do I do it every single for every single person,

1:35:10 Speaker 1: just so people can follow along.

1:35:13 Speaker 4: My Instagram is just my first and last name.

1:35:15 Speaker 3: Let me check.

1:35:16 Speaker 4: But I posted some of the orbs. I can post more.

1:35:19 Speaker 1: I'll put I'll put all the links in the description

1:35:21 Speaker 1: below for anyone who wants to follow him.

1:35:24 Speaker 2: But wow, you you definitely have uh an an an

1:35:31 Speaker 2: interesting interesting uh experience your story and I think I

1:35:37 Speaker 2: want to hear more. So ah wow, what a show,

1:35:42 Speaker 2: perfect show man. Thank you.

1:35:44 Speaker 4: Yeah, man, I appreciate you letting me share everything that

1:35:47 Speaker 4: I've gone through because.

1:35:50 Speaker 1: I don't think we've gotten through everything. There's a lot

1:35:52 Speaker 1: more to unpack, but I think there's some some cool

1:35:57 Speaker 1: things that we can talk about.

1:35:59 Speaker 2: So with that, big said, guys.

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