RAYTHEON CONTRACTOR ERIC HECKER: "THE SOUTH POLE STATION IS NOT WHAT YOU THINK" ADVANCED, BACK ENGINEERED ALIEN TECH & MORE
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If you can think of something evil, someone's already doing it. As an
example, the ability to generate an earthquake, it is my understanding that the
two earthquakes in twenty and eleven were caused by the bringing on of the system
of the ice cream mutrino detector. And it is my understanding that when they
first brought it online, they basically had two friendly fire misfires, and that's
what hit christ Church, New Zealand. I was there. A lot of
folks contemporarily seem to have a lack of respect for people with direct first handing.
Everybody always says if this was going on, somebody would have said something,
Well, there are people saying stuff. Cook to work on a cat
train that went across the ice and he said. The express purpose for him,
I should say, for that team working for Rathon was they were searching
for missile site locations. They find out it's really usable, not only toolivion,
but militarily. The whole idea of this being d millet horized is a
load of ballooning. But strangely enough, there's left in the world today an
area as big as the United States that's never been seen by human being and
that's beyond the pull on the other side of the Cells pole from Middle America,
and it's a I think it's quite study because the government has really become
interesting. I tell you one reason they're interested. It's by far the most
valuable important place there. Having looked backwards, I question the proximity that I
was to them. I may have been some sort of unknown asset, is
my suspicion. The type of clients that I had are not the type of
people that when they get a leak under their sync, they go to the
Yellow Pages and check for the local plumber. You know, fun facts and
strange banks about an architect. Okay, it's a desert, dry continent on
the planet. Very people live there, one hundred and forty permanent residents.
Who was discovered recently in eighteen twenty by Russian expedition. No country owns it.
It wasn't named until eighteen nineties. Mostly ice ninety percent holds most of
the world's freshwater sixty to ninety percent. It used to be as warm as
what Melbourne years ago, forty fifty million years ago. I don't have a
fear of death because I don't think death is the end of anything. All
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It's really a easy. Today we have former Navy and contractor of Raytheon,
Eric Heckler, and he is going to tell us his experiences and his story
and how he became a whistleblower about the South Pole. Here is mister Eric.
Thank you for joining me. By the way, thanks for having me.
It's been in the works for for a while. I remember the first
time I messaged you, you said, do your homework, get back to
me, and then you know, I went and did that homework, and
I really you know, I appreciated that you said that because I can only
imagine coming out on a platform like you know, because doctor Greer does draw
attention and he does draw the community's eyes, whether people want to believe it
or not. So you came out on a big stage and you didn't have
a lot of time to speak, there was a lot of people. But
how did you become involved in that process? I want to start there,
but then go into your early life. So I do want to touch base
on how that came to be. I guess I'm I'm going to try to
get yeah, and I guess I never really thought of it that, like,
like how did I get involved? Is the question? Like with the
career event in DC, is that what you're asking. I think that would
have been through John Warner the Fourth as a common friend. I would say
that was probably how I got to know Greer. That would make sense,
Okay. And then so it was after you know, you're you're here because
and what I think really is commendable about your story is that you're here for
your crew, not just you, and you're here because, uh, they're
they experiencing or they were experiencing what I can only call a Vana syndrome.
I mean it with with what doctor Gary Nolan. I mean, I'm sure
you know you've been, You've been. I'm sure you know who doctor Gary
Nolan is. Pretend that I'm versed in his information, but I'm familiar with
him and his work. Yeah, so he kind of studied the Euvanna syndrome
on the opposite side, so without you know, having worked around it,
he kind of studied what it did two people and the traits that these people
had, what they had in common, and what they did, and uh,
he did some great work and uh he there's there's clearly something to it,
and I think he's lending credibility. I think that's what what the community
needs to do more of, is line these things up, because what you're
talking about, it all makes sense. Right. If I was hiding this
kind of weapons system, or this kind of communication or or secret technology,
I'd hide it exactly where they hit it, right, And I'd be test
doing tests exactly where they're doing them, and I would employ people just like
you. And what I think happened is that people underestimated you because of your
position, and you were able to breach some information and put the picture together.
It happens all the time. I see it all the time with people
underestimating people because of that hierarchy that they think exists. Right, I'm a
scientist, I'm a big shot. You're this guy. You have no idea
what I'm talking about, So it doesn't really matter what I say to you.
You're not going to understand it anyway. And that cognitive disassociation that they
have towards the real world, yeah, it just it is what it is.
It's not hard for folks to consider if you have this big, giant,
massive office building full of scientists, Well, each of the scientists is
allotted a couple of cubicles that they're supposed to have access to, So in
general, each one of them is completely compartmentalized and cut off from the others.
The people that are not would be the maintenance staff for that same building.
Absolutely. It's just it's like it is that simple that you know,
the electrician in that building, the plumber in that building, the carpenter in
that building would have a much bigger picture of what's really going on in that
building. Yep, any of the individual scientists. If you go to any
building, I go to buildings like and I go to buildings that are highly
secure on a daily basis. On a daily basis, I'm in places like
uh Maderna right, places like just really really like the John Hancock Building.
Half the companies there I live, so I'm in the Boston area, and
the maintenance staff they are what the building. The building doesn't run without that.
And they are the ones they know everything. They know the ins and
the outs, the ins and outs, they know people's comings and goings.
Uh, they're they're more often and they're more consistent. It's just how it
is. And I think your story is really unique because of how you got
there. So I want to start with your early life. You grew up
in Long Island, but you grew up in a unique place, very unique
place. So I wanted to start with who you grew up around, anyone
in particular. I mean it was about thought of, yeah, you grew
up in all town. Let me get my words so well, I'm sorry
the town was called it was a I just had it on the tip of
my tongue. It's in here somewhere in my notes. But what is it?
Tittleton? Oh no, no, did you come up with? What's
the town that you grew up in? And it was as association with a
Project paper Clip, Operation paper Clip, I grew I grew up intown called
Letowntown. I don't know what all was. I completely lost it, but
yes, it was very much involved with the World War two veterans coming home
post World War Two, and you know in the greater Long Island area there
was a massive amount of Operation paper Clip activity going on. I mean,
you name it it was. It was rampant beth Page, which was where
Grumming was at the time. It was a stone's throwaway. You know,
you had companies like t R w AI L. You know, pretty much
all of the military industrial contractors had some presence on Long Island and were employing
folk that would be involved with all of these programs. So again it's like,
you know, now you expanded outwardly instead of all of the scientists being
in proximity to each other by offices and office buildings, well they might be
in different buildings from each other, but they're certainly in the same communities.
You know, they're just spreading everybody out and diversifying the load a bit broader
spectrum. But for all practical purposes, everybody involved in the Long Island military
industrial complex was just shuttling back and forth to work for their little rat wheel
cog in the military industrial machine. They were. You know, that's I
mean, that's the industry here, whether you work for Sperry Electric or you
know, grumbing or yep. Absolutely absolutely, And I mean growing up in
that area, in such a concentrated area, like you said, everyone got
uh their hands in in that in that area, did you ever see things?
Did you ever experience things that started to open your mind and make you
wonder, you know, are we alone you know, start start asking those
big questions or was this something that happened after soupol where you started getting intrigued?
It was something that was ongoing in my life. The facilities that I
was coming across. I was starting to realize that things were not as they
appeared. So as an example, on Long Island and the locale, the
the country clubs basically with the rich people all conquered gate are former you know,
like Nike nuclear missile sites, so they're they're forty yeh. It's like
this is just a part of history no one really discusses. So it's no
longer a nuclear missile site for the defense of we the people that got shut
down. But now it's a country club. So if you're rich, then
you happen to be a member of this elite facility that used to be able
to take a nuclear missile strike. So I think that there's been different levels
of society that have been in the know about certain things for longer than others,
and that there's been a two step going on for quite some time where
first those in the know rile up the riff raft the general population and get
them to be scared of something now, so they get them to invest in
the infrastructure that the wealthy will abscond by some other definition. Oh now it's
not a nuclear missile site anymore. Now it's our country club. Right,
and the poor people can't be here and know about it. But yet here's
this fortified facility that has its own power supply, its own water supply.
It's you know, it's able to withstand the nuclear blast. Yeah, yeah,
benownst to everybody in the community. Rights just for you know, eighteen
holes and fun on sun on the weekend. Yeah. And the fees to
be in these clubs are very exorbitant, just like you're almost like you're maintaining
a massive below grade city. Yep. And that's and it's and it's always
like that too. It's it's always the you know, it's always the these
I mean, look what's happening in uh now. I mean it's uh you
see these people's houses getting raided on the on the constant, uh for for
their their It it seems like when once money and power is there, it's
just the saying just rings true. Just with power and money comes comes absolute
just I don't know, you turn into someone different. And money, power
and greed have turned this country into front, turned it away from what it
was meant to be into this I don't even know. I mean, it's
a it's just a joke on a daily basis you look at the news.
The president, you know, he looks like one of those shells in Mario.
After he's done with the speech, he doesn't know where to go,
so he just bobs back and forth until someone grabs his hand and wheels him
down the aisle. And then you know, the the guy we got running
against him is is Uh, I don't know, it's it's this this this
country is just it's gone so far. So Daniel Anyway spoke about, you
know, a breakaway civilization, breakaway shadow government, and uh is it?
Do you think that there is such thing? Are you? The speech that
that Senator in I gave is something that everybody should pay a lot of attention
to, that there are these other factions that exist in the shadows, behind
the scenes. This was very much part of the conversation that I had when
I did go and testify at the Senate Intelligence Committee and arrow. This was
part of what went down was there seems to be an awareness that there are
factions that have gone rogue, that are no longer operating with any oversight,
and that the pretense of secrecy being how we got here and protected these folks
has been I guess taken advantage of and it's become questionable that some of these
factions are operating for what is best for everyone anymore. So, I mean,
this is where we're at. This is the problem with the ways of
the world. Is it? Technology and secrecy at levels that we never thought
would get entangled are currently occurring and we and we really need to consider what
that means, you know, so you know, how far down the rabbit
hole have we gone with? What's possible? Starts with I guess answering first
what's possible? You know, what is possible, what could be going on
around us? And then we'll have a debate about how far down we could
have taken this technology and these tools and resources, you know, to what
depths of disrepair and dismay and debacle could they be being applied? Well,
first we have to figure out what could be getting applied right and if if
we look around at all the testimony I mean from various whistleblowers, you know,
David Garage, yourself, even Michael Herrera others. There was the lady
that came out at the sealth pool right before you did. I forget her
name, was it? She came out Renaan a Coole I forget her last
name. She didn't come out as a whistleblower, but she came out.
She kind of lines up with your story, and you knew her personally,
and she suffered from what they said was originally these you know, like she
had a stroke, but it, you know, clearly looked more like Vaner
syndrome. And she was trying to get herself evact while you were there and
you had worked with her. So I think, you know, if you
take all this testimony right, there's clearly some faction in the government or faction
of the government or the military military industrial complex that has broken off and as
is will do anything to keep this secret. And it it's it doesn't just
start with neutrino weapons or directed energy weapons, but you know, it's a
UAP, it's everything. It's all connected, and you know, have you
started making some of those connections. Absolutely, And this for me has been
going on for quite some time. And it amazes me that everybody else is
just having a hard time following along, even because it seems that once you
know, trail is being broken here it leads to the obvious. There's new
information to most people coming out now, But where the conversation is going is
that pretty much all microwave raiddar systems have the capacity to be used offensively like
an attacking ray, and we now need to reconsider all of our history that
we've had these types of radar systems that we were trained to believe only had
a passive capacity like listening, like being an electronic ear is kind of the
perception that we were trained to maintain for this type of technology. But now
we have to retrain our brains to realize now there's more going on. These
things aren't simply passively listening. They have an active ability to do something offensively
in the frequency spectrum in the directed energy weapons direction that we're just learning has
been around for a lot longer than we've been told. Yeah, I mean,
look at I mean just the look at the amount of patents that gets
seized every year that have to do with alternative energy or anything in the field
of you know, alternative propulsion or or just you know that that that field.
They slap a national security tag on it and a national security order on
it, and it gets shelved, but it gets sheld from the public.
The the only way that project moves forward at that point is if you work
with the military as the inventor. Right, the only way that you'll be
able to now utilize your invention is if you sell it to the military,
because it's under national security order. So why is it such a stretch to
think that the military industrial complex or some subset of it, some group as
this advanced technology and is not is not being forthcoming about it these you know,
I just it blows my mind that people can't put this, put this
all together and it you know, we don't have to drag on about that.
I want to get more into what has directly, you know, happened
to you. But it just it really does. It blows my mind.
I mean, it's very clear that that something is happening in plain sight.
Yeah, I couldn't agree more. If people just paid more attention to what's
going on around them in the in the real world, not the virtual reality
that they're trying to get everyone to focus on. You have to turn away
from the screen, pay attention to the patterns of reality going on around you,
and you'll get a massive education as to what the intentions of your enemies
are because they're air apparent everywhere you look. In reality, there are attacks
on your your ability to wield free will. I mean, it's just omnipresent.
If you're looking in the right direction, right and and these things,
if you're if what you're saying is true, then they could put anything in
your mind at any moment and make you think anything at any moment or or
or any make you feel certain like that is the ultimate. You want to
talk about privacy and phone tapping, I mean this goes. Everybody knows that
they've already figured this out. Everybody knows that they're holding in their hand a
device that interacts with them enough that that device could start throwing out. But
I mean, for lack of a more colloquial term, let's just call it
personalized ads or news or properly edited in selected posts from your friends, coworkers,
whoever you want to define it. Multiple bots could be created to start
modifying your view of anything in everything through that device to get a desired outcome
of how you will feel when a certain amount of attention is invested in which
this could absolutely be bought and paid for. They can put a number to
a calculation. They absolutely can look at you and be like, what do
we want him to be thinking? In one week, and what would it
cost us to make that happen? What programs do we have that we can
sick on him to make this occur? And these studies have been ongoing.
Everybody's we're living in that world right now. Technology is already engaging with people
to that extent that every time you look at your phone and some audible alarm
makes you look at your phone, so there's a control mechanism there. You
then look at the latest post and you have a physical reaction that your phone
is now reading. It notices that your respiration rate changes, It notices that
your circulation has modified. It can tell whether you liked something or didn't like
something. Right, And then by having control of that information stream alone and
everybody else's information streams, there's a massive amount of modification and manipulation to get
any desired outcome with just simple investment. Right, Because once you can once
you can predict right. So once once you can predict someone's future, right,
you can alter it. Because if you know their habits and their this
and their that's, and their dislikes their likes, you know everything about them,
how they're spending, how they spend their money, where they spend it.
You can start now now targeting certain aspects of that person's quality to get
them to go a certain way. So then yes, you're in full control
at that point. And it's a fucking dangerous world, my friend. And
and if we got Tesla, I mean we get not Tesla. We got
elo Mouth out here already, you know, with the trials for for neuralink.
So uh, it's we're we're we're one human away from from being cyborgs
already. H And and that scares the ship out of me. People are
gonna be begging for it. Yet everybody that we're already prepositioned for that to
occur, and it will, and then there will be no secrecy. And
but then so then I guess, I ask, then if there is no
well, I guess the people who control the program control everything, so the
secret stay secret for them, but not for everybody else. Everybody else's secrets
are out on the table. But that's a that's a whole thing in itself.
Well, there in lies the nature of the beast of the game,
right, I mean that that what you just said right there is pretty much
the motive. And it's been spending time and time again through all of history.
But as the technologies change, there's just new modalities you can get.
You can get the same outcome of the situation you just mentioned by being the
church in antiquity and starting with the whole confessional booth situation, and you convinced
the population, Oh, please come tell your sins to the priest. He
won't share. This isn't run by the Mafi. Yeah, this isn't an
This isn't an intel gathering operation. This is divinity. Oh leaves and leaves
some money in the baskets. Only does God need intel? He needs funding.
It needs a little bit of He's a little bit of side money too.
Yeah, please do tennail Mary's don't forget. Absolutely, don't worry.
So all right, So in your early life, did you said you you
did have some encounters of you just you saw things, things that made you
question it. And then you went to elementary school and something else happened.
Can you explain what the library is? When I was in grammar school,
I guess I got caught up in what would be considered like the Stargate program,
the remote viewing program that they eventually wound up putting kids through. And
recently there was testimony from one of the original Remote Viewing team members of me
and by the name of David Moorehouse, and he spoke on I believe it
was the Danny Jones Chapital Show, and he expressed his understanding of how the
point in time where the US government made the decision to start researching on children
as well, when they had discovered that foreign nations were already in that activity.
He said that it was a very rapid Well, then if they're doing
it, we got to do it, and we got to do it bigger,
and we got to do it better. Yeah, so the United States.
So that was the type of program that I found myself mixed up in
the library at my grammar school. So it was very interesting. I was
privy to a lot of stuff. I guess early on that most people are
going to just be learning about right now apparently, and that's you know that
remote viewing works. Everybody has the ability to do it, and it's just
more or less how much you practice at it will control your proficiency. Mm
hm. So this was just kind of reality for you then. I mean
as a kid, I know, when I was in first grade, I
wouldn't have been you know, if they're taking me out of class and bringing
me to this place and doing tests and you know whatever. I mean,
that would just seem normal to me, and it makes it makes sense that
And the reason I brought up where you grew up and the ties to paper
clip is because I don't think it's by chance that you end up in this
program, right, I don't think it's by chance. Oh yeah, I
believe that there's some there's some aspect of my reality that I have yet to
completely understand ascertain. I'm not sure how to put it because I'm I'm not
there yet, But it's their sure seems to be some sort of guiding hand
that gets me from opportunity to opportunity, or engagement to engagement, person to
employment. There's just such a peculiar line that I've walked that it's just it
seems to be way beyond coincidence. Yeah, I would, I literally wouldn't.
I couldn't agree more. Just, you know, watching multiple of your
podcasts in interviews for the past past week or so, I've just been I'm
one of the same kind of guys I feel like you have been. Even
with the South Pole, I think that was destination finale. I mean,
that's I even myself, I forget how like big of a deal it is
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Yeah, and even you know, what I do for work now is limited
exposure to the cold. But for all practical purposes. I mean it's it's
not a skill set that you need to use often, but when you need
to use it in like really bad environments. I guess I could say I'm
really good at being out in extremely cold places and not dying. Well that's
a good Yeah, Yeah, that's a great thing. And like I said,
if you can get the job done in those kind of environments, I
mean, uh, you know, we'll get there. But I mean,
you're in a tent in this celth pole. People don't know the summer season.
Yeah, I mean, what the what? Yeah, it was lunacy.
It was absolutely lunacy. It was so cold in those dents. Like,
I don't even understand how that's possible, but that that could be considered
humane. Yeah, I was. I was beside myself trying to figure that
one out. A couple of storms blew in here and there, and it
was it was wild how much the exterior was involved with the interior. And
it was like how they how the hell can be getting away with this?
Right? But you know it's raytheon and they're allowed to experiment on people.
Yeah, and they're right, you're and you're you're you're in an antar,
you're in the fuself pole. Yeah, I mean the whole thing is the
experiment in and of itself, just the the social dynamics, everything going on
is worthy of study. Six ways from Sunday. It's it's exactly like that.
It's it's not only like you said, to conduct this whatever mission.
It's whatever end goal or whatever the secret big mission is there, whatever it
connects to. There's also this other side where they're watching and they're they're they're
monitoring how do these people react by spending a year in this desolate wastelamd not
wasteland, but because but for its beautiful in its own right, it's just
after seven months straight, I'm sure the scenery you could give a shit less
about it. There. Yeah, there is no scenery, there is no
it's just it's flat, like don't in the sky is the beautiful part?
There's nothing there. It's that you're a ten thousand feet of elevation and there's
nothing there. There's not a mountain, there's not a tree, there's nothing.
Do you think Antarctica is misrepresented in the media? And entirely this is
kind of the whole point of what I'm doing, is to bring truth to
this topic, because it appears that every conversation that I'm observing in the disclosure
community about Antarctica is unsubstantiated, speculative, sensationalized crap that has nothing to do
with the verifiable considerations that should be getting discussed. It seems to be a
full court press on trying to confuse the general population of the plant in it
about what really is going on down there versus what could be going on down
there, And they want to overspeculate and undersubstantiate so that people don't discuss what's
really going on. Right right, there's a disinformation game going on on this
topic. What other topic would you give any respect if there was a debate
going on and one person was experienced in the topic, another one was just
a researcher in the topic. I mean, why would you give any weight
to the one that has no experience in the topic. But here we have
one that in the disclosure community, we can observe that there's a whole bunch
of people that have no experience in Antarctica and they're controlling a conversation on a
place that they've never been. How is the general public tolerance raiding this farce?
It's because they want to know what fucking Kim Gardashian's wearing to the met
Gala. They're all currently being spoon fed regurgitated information about the continent of Antarctica
that's been around for decades. There's nothing new under the sun in the propaganda
information. They just keep repackaging it and re introducing it to the public as
if it's new, Like as if it's new for anybody to say, Hey,
did you hear that way back when the Nazis might have snuck down to
Antarctica with some submarines. Uh yeah, actually people have been talking that a
really long time. Now. Yeah, this is not this is not new,
I don't yeah, yeah, but it can't. Like every two years
now we get a resurgence of things that are pseudo new all over again,
which in and of itself is the control mechanism. Okay, and okay,
so there's a story I was. I didn't even know if I was going
to bring it up, but I'm sure are you familiar with the Admiral bird
stuff m and the whole like I literally mean the whole that you know went
into another fucking place, another world. With your experience, there could such
a thing exist, not at the South Paul proper where everybody's trying to state
that it is. There's a And again this is I get that a lot
of people don't understand this topic. They weren't there, They're not familiar with
terminology, stupid little details, but it matters. So what I'm getting I
was actually at the South Pole proper, and from being there, seeing the
lay of the land, I can say that the hole that people are suggesting
birds saw and stated was at the south Pole was not actually at the geographic
ninety degrees south Pole if there is one, okay, but everybody wants to
fight about that, Okay. With that being said, I would also suggest
that if he did in fact see something, and if people would just simply
do the research and follow that his log book entries are referenceable to times,
dates, and altitudes from the time that he claims that he saw some sort
of oasis, sees some hole in the ice at the elevation that he says
that he was at. It sure seems like he's near the coast, because
if he was further inland, on the highest continent on the planet, he'd
be way above the ice line and things would just be different. So these
are the details that people aren't paying attention to. That when he's calling elevations
and saying I see this, and I see that, Well, you have
to consider the ice elevations versus sea level, and all kinds of things are
different in Antarctica. So I would suggest that whenever he saw what he saw,
according to what he was calling out for elevations, he was probably near
the coast. Interesting. That's very interesting because that's what should makes sense,
that there were spots where there were no ice, hence the cup exactly.
Okay, See, I'm actually glad I brought that up now, because,
like I said, you know, if you were if you were there and
you and as a as your job duties would have it, you had unfettered
access to the facility. So if they were guarding some giant hole fucking you
know, to another world, sure you would have come across it. And
they called it. They called it the gravity tunnel. It was. It
was boarded up and secured for ninety nine of the time that I was there.
But everything else I had full access to. But the gravity tunnel,
oddly enough, was the most peculiar section in the facility. And what does
that mean? The gravity tunnel It was apparently some some sort of censor that
was paying attention to the Earth's gravitational field. Okay, and is that meaningful
in any way? We're just discussing rooms and access and I'm just letting you
know which technically was the most peculiarly secured room. Okay, understood, understood.
And so you start having you you get flown down there, you know,
you start getting acclimated, uh to this job that you got with right
theon, Right, So you're contracting with right theon. So you're working for
Ratheon while you're down at the South Pole, and your main job duties include,
uh, you know, like maintenance technician or plumbing technician and making sure
that uh the place stayed operational, right, yeah, okay, And it's
in when is it that you start realizing something not right? Well, I
mean I guess initially my understanding that right the was in charge of the facility
by contract did automatically put up red flags by itself, But then it is
so far as actual day by day tasking. When I knew that something was
officially up was when the ELF system became identified to me as being energized and
active, as opposed to being de energized and deactivated as I was told up
until that point. So when I learned the contrary that the system was up
and running, I knew that there was something afoot, so to say in
Sherlock Holm's terminology, Right, and so when did this Actually, I'm not
even going to go there yet, And you started so having access to the
building, you were able to you know, you know, when certain things
went wrong in certain places, you'd have to go there, and you'd end
up in a room with say a scientist, and you said, you know,
you're kind of like stroke their egos a little bit and allow them to
open up to you. And you started having conversations with the scientists there and
learning what they were doing. What were they doing. They were basically using
really fancy equipment to look outwardly into the cosmos and for all practical purposes like
counting stars and star systems, looking at density of suns. So a lot
of it would be I guess you would say, if you were to try
to reduce it down to a common term, would be looking for signs of
life in a lot of the telescope work. Then there was also the Arrow
Facility, the Atmospheric Research Observatory was doing a lot of stuff more locally in
regards to the atmosphere specific to that location. You know, being South Pole
in the winter, you know, very clean air, right, and yeah,
I mean I can only assume the visibility. The one thing that would
be cool is the stars. Oh. That was off the wall, almost
almost beyond the ability to put words to it. It was. It was
I guess the best way to try to describe it would be that it was
the same as being in outer space because at that elevation you all you really
had to do was just lift your head up a few degrees and then the
whole world drops out of view. So at that point where our head slightly
elevated, you can now rotate three hundred and sixty degrees and the entire planet
is out of view. Wow, So it's the same as being in space,
Like, what's the difference between that and being at a space station looking
out a window where there's nothing below. It was, it was an absurdly
gorgeous view, right, It gives you that. I forget what they call
it. It happens to astronauts when they look back at Earth for the first
time. I'd take it. There's a word for it. It's something about
being tiny too, because it did make you feel very tiny. I could
make yeah, I could lay lots of times. I would just lay back
on a snow bank and just look up and again there's nothing locking the view
and their perspective. It's I mean, it's nuts, Like you can almost
imagine yourself as being like upside down and stuck to the Earth and looking out
over space. It's specially reality. Yeah. One of the polls too,
man Like, it's just I mean, in any other circumstance, you know,
being there for like two days would have been cool, like you know,
and and and and and get into it. But a year obviously,
uh. They obviously they have time limits for a reason. And because people
will go a little insane in those kind of environments. They call it getting
toasty. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly exactly. So, uh,
you were your term that that you signed on for for how how long?
It was for one year? So one year exactly. Yeah, pretty much.
It's I mean, it's a ballpark that's not really written in stone so
much because it really just has to do with weather and flights for when you
start and finish. But it's a it's a ballpark for that vicinity of time.
It was for a summer season followed by a winter season, all right,
and then they rotate out and h did you ever have the opportuity?
I guess do they do they invite you back? Or do you do you
have to reapply? Do you you officially have to reapply? And I would
just say that what's that? Did you I'm assuming you never just you just
never did, because I had, actually I had, I had reapplied a
couple of times, and and one time was actually by request or some folks
in the program because there's there's there's some systemic problems in the United States Antarctic
program that there is a period of time that they considered me as the most
viable option to mitigate the problem, and they went with a different direction.
And you know, it's a very interesting. Yeah, I mean, so
it is what it is. I mean, because you had to do some
work previously with your company, I know in two thousand and eight, you
had a tough time after Obama's administration kind of you know, screw on that.
But you're doing some work for some really let's just say, peculiar clients.
Yeah. So some of the people that you did work for, they
were able to dictate what you drove, how you got there, when you
got there, able to call you twenty four hours a day. So this
is this I'm taking this from your testimony. I think you gave to Patrick
bet David and so that that experience. And again I kind of want to
bring this up because do you think do you do you think there's a possibility
the CIA tried to groom you? Absolutely? Yeah, yeah, absolutely,
I think three letter agency here. You know, I think somebody put time
and effort and investment into making me some sort of a resource and that like
piece of equipment that's available to rents to the highest bidder. Right, yeah,
Well that's a government program where they you know, they can build this
if they do that, and then we have this thing over here on the
shelf, and you two can use it for the low low day rate of
Yeah right, okay, now yeah that makes sense. Yeah, okay.
So uh, I mean this is how our government dollars work, folks.
It literally just gets that simple. It's so simple. It's bad. It's
so bad. Like Tim Burchett said, you know he's a friend, uh
and that that gomt that that the what was the last time the Pentagon passed?
Not answer zero? And I'm just like, yeah, you're right,
sir, you know. I mean, if you can think of almost nefarious,
any nefarious plot that you can think of right now, just think of
how many years ago someone else could have thought of it, and as long
as they never tried it before, they're just obliged to invest in it anyhow
to see how it pans out. I mean, there's so much stuff that
they invest in just because of that alone. Like they're like, well,
we've we've never wasted money on that before. Yeah, see we have to
see what that means. Yeah and we do. Yeah, And god it
makes me laugh because so I mean, some of these people that you you
did work for it just it seems like, like like you said that,
you know, the self poll ended up being the only option on the table
for you, and it seems that you were put there and then you go
through this kind of just really odd experience where you start connecting the dots.
You're kind of experiencing some some some uh Vana syndrome esque uh symptoms you and
your crew throughout the whole experience. I can only and and uh that that
that isn't something to just scoff over. I mean that stuff is is brutal,
like you know, not being able to see uh, skin burns,
that kind of stuff like disorientation, dizzyness, ten it is all those things
will drive you mad. They now have evaluated they made these weapons do this
for a reason, and it's not because it's dysfunctional, because it's effective.
The reason that they invested billions of dollars into this tech, it's because it
works. So my question is, what is this thing that is down there
causing this? What is it? I mean you've said it before, but
what is it? At it to at it? What do they want us
to believe it is and what is it really? They want us to believe
it's a passive listening device, but in reality, it is yet just another
multifaceted directed energy weapons platform that can do a multitude of terrible things, and
those are the conversations that we need to start engaging and the vocabularies that we
need to start building, because currently there's just a lack of understanding, because
this stuff is so new, we don't have the words for it yet.
Therein lies a huge part of the problem is that this is I mean,
it's literally that new. When I say directed energy weapons, I mean most
people don't even know what that means to begin with. And that is it.
I mean, just right there, that's a huge conversation to just now
have to turn to people and go, all right, folks, here's everything
that you need to know about. The cons list. Yeah, I mean,
yeah, the pros and cons to everything. There's pros to direct the
energy weapons systems being around, but there's also cons. So let's just dive
into the cons list. I mean, this is a man sieve, a
massive problem to digest. They're calling you right now. No, my phone
just jumped off of the stand. There you go. Yeah, literally peculiar
not at all, has nothing according to the Quarr movie statistics, there's something
behind you right now. Yeah, you're supposed to have left already. That
was the cue. Every time I've talked to someone who's a whistleblower, something
weird appens. Weird happens. So I'm sure I'm gonna have some of your
dreams tonight, you know, or something or literally happens every single time they'll
hit you with the double laser beam tonight. Yeah, yeah, you And
this is actually very serious, you think? So you've attributed this no trino
device two earthquakes that happened in twenty eleven in New Zealand. Yep. How
do we correlate these two events? How do we improve that? I mean,
how to say the question again? How do we? How do we?
How do how can you say that those are related? And what evidence
is there to suggest that it was absolutely this that caused it? I'm not
this is not a god. There is no evidence that absolutely suggests anything to
anyone without direct firsthand experience. But I'm coming from someone, as you know,
having worked at the facility, having communicated with the crew that was operating
the facility at the time that this occurred. I mean, what else do
people need to know other than that? Like, I mean, you know,
do people want a video of the button being hit? Do they want
you know, a drone shot view that follows the electro beam. H Like,
you know, if put it this way, if if if no one
even that a seven forty seven plane existed, and I told you I went
for a flight in one, and then everybody said, well, prove it
well, the lack of being able to prove how plane works at that point
and negate the fact that you went for a flight and one right, you
know, So sometimes people are asking for more than simply just appreciating what they're
being given. Yeah, no, and I understand this, you know.
It's like it's like it's like pointing to the staircase to someone and be like,
you can know everything that you need to know is at the top of
that staircase, and I'm guiding you to the first step. But the only
way for you to ever know the truth about what is at those stairs is
you have to do the work and ascend them yourself, and there will be
knowledge gained by each step taken. But the reality is is there's nothing you
can prove to anybody on these topics if they're not willing to do the work
of elevating their knowledge step by step. It's just this is how it works.
There's there's a big misinformation and disinformation disinformation game going on right now,
and the fact that they've made it so wildly complex is part of why most
people are so misinformed, because they will simply just accept the information being distributed
to them, which is holy false. But it's easier to accept that information
and incorporate it into your paradigm than to have to do the heavy lifting of
going up the stairs of knowledge and becoming truly informed. Right. I guess
the reason I ask is because of that and that very thing, and because
from my experience, I can put my trust in somebody in their word,
in their direct word, and for me. And the reason I brought it
up is because if you think, if anyone thinks that the US government,
in conjunction with Raydeon, is going to come out and give you documentation that
says we accidentally fucked up one of our allies by turning this thing on,
you know, and doing god knows what, then you are out of your
mind. You are out of your mind if you think the government is going
to come out and be like, yeah, we fucked we we we really
fuck this one up. Guys. Here you go, here's all the evidence.
You need. Hence why the JFK stuff's been classified and overclassified and will
stay classified for the rest of time, and why the up phenomena and stuff
related to it, at least from the government. We're probably never going to
get that that presidential We are not alone unless it's forced literally by the NHI
or you know, the others whatever you want to call them, way more
likely to have a false flag offend to curse absolutely. I would you know
what at this point, like Werner von Braun's words, if his assistant I
forget her name, but she she is part of a careers team. She
said that the last card that they're going to play is the card that one,
and almost every single day I wake up and I can't believe that that
card has not been played yet. It's the ultimate money How long are they
going to draw this out for? Yes? Ultimate money maker? Right,
dude? Aliens from space? What what else do you have to say?
Are you all familiar with the nineteen eighties TV series V It's pretty much covered
this whole concept of a massive, highly technologically advanced alien species showing up to
the Earth to assist us. But then it turns out you can peel their
skin away and their reptilians in they're eating us. I mean, this is
the and it was I mean not but nothing for an eighties TV series.
It was really well done. Endured this show as a kid, but I
mean it was literally they've been conditioning us towards this for a very long time.
That's why I said, I can't believe it hasn't happened yet. I've
been saying, I've been saying since the conception of this show. I've been
saying, we're all being groomed as a totally, we are all being grouped
to a something is either coming or it's on the horizon. Well, we're
being traumatized in mass now, so, you know, as just going full
circle to the stuff that I was exposed to as a child in the programs
that do exist that we find, you know, unfortunately that governments are invested
in is these situations where they learned that inducing trauma to the psyche gets very
specific results. So when I was a kid, I was involved with programs
where they were basically just doing research and development to see what can we do
with you know, induced trauma to the psyche and what they learned in those
one on one situations was now how to it to the level of what we
can see going on around us right now to our friends, family and loved
ones, our neighbors, is that they've now just made it in mass They
now figured out how to traumatize the entirety of humanity at once. Oh my
god, that's all that's going That's all that's going on is these programs have
been spread exponentially across the entire population. Think about it, and so that's
what's going on. Think about it. The highest rates of of of factionalism
and people hating each other, division, stress, suicide of young girls right
under. By having all of this technology and engagement, it's metadata galore,
so that predictions can be made and manipulations and dials turned to to get the
result that someone's looking for. Right It's a giant goddamn SiO. It's chin.
I'll bet you. I'll bet you you can go to some marketing company
and they'll run calculations on how much money would we have to invest to get
ten percent of this particular demograph to kill themselves by the end of next month.
I mean, I understand the idea of freedom of speech being fought for
on the Internet, but I also appreciate the smoke and mirrors in the circus
of the propagandized conversations in front of us. But let's go onto the topic
of TikTok for a half a second. I mean, I'm all for freedom
of speech and stuff like that, but when we have a foreign nation like
China that has a technology as pervasive as TikTok into the minds of our children,
is it naive for us to not consider that there may be some detrimental
activity going on? And why is that just not responsible parenting? Yeah,
as a parent, why don't you look at what the Chinese TikTok is and
what the American one is? Just compare the two, Compare what they really
what they are. They're fundamentally different. The one in China. Like it's
educational, uh it, I mean it's it's obviously it's backed by the Chinese
Republican Party or Chinese whatever they're called. Uh. I think I got it
right. Has anybody calculated how many deaths of American children were related to TikTok
content? It's probably up there in the on It's probably up there in the
unpleasing amounts. Right, We're always trying to ascribe things to other things and
provide retro causality and be justice warriors for things nowadays. Right, So let's
just add this to the list of justice warriors for American children. How many
American children have been killed as a result of some information or activity that they
engaged with because of TikTok. I'm be curious to know that number. Yeah,
I really would be too. It's a it's and it's a it's a
conversation that that most people don't want to have. Would the Chinese government have
some aspect of their long arm of secrecy that might protrude into an item that
way and say, hey, is it possible that we can gain some result
through this software to intrude into the minds of the American youth to insert some
of our principles. I mean, we'd have be that far fetched to think
of, you know, an enemy nation. Yeah, no, and it's
out. I mean, this is the same nation that will send a spy
balloon right over your head, right literally right over your head, and then
it ends up on picked by all the American influencers and uh, yeah,
I don't know if you recalled the darper Red balloon challenge way back when did
you ever hear this? I did not. I would love to know about
this. So this was yeah, this is referenceable. So DARPA did an
experiment where they I forget what the monetary mountains. I think it might have
been like a fifty thousand dollars prize or one hundred and fifty thousand dollars prize.
And what DARPA was going to do was they were going to float up
something like eight huge, massive red balloons and the first person to send in
all the appropriate coordinates this is going to be all over the planet. Right.
So now imagine here you are by your computer, so you know,
how much information can you gather to start learning where locations are? How fast
is that information going to become guarded, coveted and then secreted around Think of
all the types of Internet traffic that would have to occur on this planet for
people to gather all of the intel about the eight locations work together with these
other cells. You know, the type of activity that was being caused by
this challenge was the type of activity that DARPA just simply wanted to observe.
Wow, Jesus, So there's lots of things that happen in our society just
simply because they're they're testing the waters, right they can right, right,
It's it's and it's a it's one long experiment, I guess if you will
this country and just in general, I mean, I guess it started as
an experiment too, experiment to right. So it's it's it's really really weird.
It's just you know, because I think we're taught at a young age
to think that the world is very, very black and white. It's only
when we and and but it's it's funny though, because when we're young,
we see the world not as black and white. It's only when we're taught
by the other people that it is that we start losing our sense of because
when you're a kid, you're you're innocent, you're naived all all every you
know, the big picture. You don't see the little ship. You know,
you know you're not you don't have that generational like you know, if
you go up in a racist at home, you're probably gonna be racist,
right, so like that kind of stuff. It's it hasn't said in yet.
So it's that all that stuff is taught to you by you observing your
parents and other people, and then it's like we get to a point and
then we get we have to retrain ourselves to realize that the world is not
black white. There is so much gray, and there's so much going on.
There's technology we don't know about. There's probably a secret space program to
some degree. H Do you hear about this new guy Luke Sands who's coming
out? Not Luke Sand's, uh Ason Sands. He's giving testimony now you
just came out. He's rumored to also be one of the first hand people
that James Fox is featuring in his new movie The Program. Did you hear
about this? I'm hearing more and more of them in the headlines, and
it's just it's really making me laugh because it's like it's like, oh,
is it about that time again for them to roll out the next new,
big spectacular storied with zero substantiated claims. I mean, is it that time
again already? Oh cool? I get to watch the whole crowd have their
attention taken from one dangling carrot and place to the next one, and I
sit there going, oh, look, look how they believe it's time to
eat another shit sandwich? That I mean, I don't know I'm not a
betting man, but I'll bet fifty bucks that this guy comes with no evidence.
I was supposed to believe him. And yeah, I mean, he
can't talk about this, but he could talk about that. So he's not
really a whistleblower. He's just somebody who has reins on them and is being
controlled like a little dog and pony show. Right as soon as he said
the twenty and back program, I just my head keeled. I was like,
God damn it, because that's that Corey good stuff. And we already
know that Corey good is about as trustworthy as I mean, all right,
but that was that was That was the whole point of the Corey Goods sy
op, was to take what was previously a worthy conversation and run it into
the ground. I mean, it was very unfortunate that people now have a
knee jerk reaction when they hear twenty and back, like, h, Corey,
you hadn't mentioned that. Well, that was the whole point of why
they brought Corey Good in was so that now people won't discuss the twenty in
back. Oh maybe I am Maybe we are just a victim of that.
Yeah, that's all that That was. It's not that it's not that the
topics were unapproachable or untrue, it's that that they were so they needed to
ruin it by putting an idiot like him up on a pedestal, just to
set him up for a large fall, to be a detriment to the topic.
They've done it before, we know, they've done it. Oh all
day long? This is this is such like a CIA two step. It's
like, again, how do people not see this coming? You know?
Yeah, I guess I because I because I listened to the testimony and I'd
get the pros and cons to what I thought. You know, I mean
the guy, you know, he seems to believe himself, right, he
seems to come off as confident. But there's all so no evidence again,
right, so no standard con job. Yeah. So, I mean at
this point, it's they're just words and the whole community is I mean,
it's video after video of after video after video, and that's that's gotta stop.
That's that's like people are quick to call people grifters and and this and
that. No, the grifters are not the ones that you think they are.
The grifters are the ones that literally play the algorithms on you, right,
and and and of course the grifters are the some of these people at
the top of the UFO community, you know, that try to it's either
their narrative or no narrative. That's that's I mean, that's pretty much the
whole community. I mean by different definitions and the different narratives would be we
have click a over here, which is the such and such convention, and
we do it, and we do it at this time of year, you
know. And then there's the such and such team that has the such and
such convention, and this stuff is already all clicked up, it's already dialed
in. There's already factions of who's working with who, And if you want
to talk to this person, then that means you have to agree with what
this person says, or we're going to throw you off the tour unless you
immediately acquiesce to our demands on how you apply your freedom of speech in our
freedom of speech tour. Yes, it's lunacy what's going on behind the scenes,
and people you know are would have even a harder time believing that all
of these folks that present publicly as all being love and light in tolerance.
Are some of the biggest line scumbags you've ever met on the face of the
earth. And that's just their public persona, because they know that it's lucrative
as an industry to where that ask publicly. Yeah, and you're and I've
said it so many times exactly the way you just said it. It's the
it's the ones that preach these this lovelight hippie you know, you know,
uh, let's all be one galactic brotherhood and we need to join our like
it's okay, it's all. That's all well and good. It's a good
message. But why your information agrees with them on right, it's a good
message. But then why are these same people are anytime anyone comes out,
they're the first to say that they're a c I a just information agent,
or they're they're they're this, or they're that, they're they're there. It's
always inserting vitriol and and and causing these this this chaos chaos amongst their large,
large followings. And you know, I hate to say it, but
we know who some of them are. I guess I've never seen them react
that way. I always just thought they kept doubling down on the love and
Light card. Now, So, I mean that's the I mean, that's
the part I guess that I've always seen through in the community is that it's
the these it's this weird uh like we call it the UFO community, but
it's not even close to a community. It's uh, it's it's the same
thing as the rest of the world. It's divving up into uh, do
you support Lou Alizondo, Do you support doctor Greer? Do you support uh
David Wilcox, And I think it would be more appropriate to refer to it
as the UFO or disclosure Opportunities. And then people try to fight for like
slices of the pie. Yeah, and they're just looking to all cut it
up for profit. It appears that's what I'm observing, is that there seems
to be few and far between people in the disclosure conversation for the express purpose
of making sure that we, the people of this planet, are getting as
much truth as possible. Yeah, I would like to align with more of
those people. I would say that they're lacking in the conversations. And if
I'm wrong, then that means everybody else out there can point me in the
right direction of who these people are that are having these conversations because I'm not
seeing them. I'd like to promote them happening more. I could not agree
more. And and it's and it's so sad because I think, you know,
this goes and this goes for a lot of things. This this notion,
I think it goes for religion, think it goes for us in this
community, goes for a lot of We all need to step back and realize
that we all have a piece of the puzzle. Right. It's when we
come together and really come together as one. That's when you become a force
to be reckoned with. Right, That's when information sharing works, right,
open source information, uh making you know, that's when you become this this
this uh you can advance. That's when you transcend this this not this this
system that's been set up to to divide you transcend it all by just stepping
away from it. Uh. And and and a lot of people, uh,
they they they they just they can't put the phone down. They can't
they can't shut the computer, and they can't turn off the camera. It's
all needs to be for profit right now, right this second instant gratification likes
you know whatever, and it's it sucks because like I think, you know,
like if we look at religious texts, right, of course, you
know, not all of it's true, it's been curated, but we also
see a lot of common themes in religious texts. So why aren't we looking
more into those common themes like uh and and uh bloodlines and uh? Why
aren't we looking more into DNA? Uh? You've talked about it actually too,
generational trauma being does DNA does? Does the DNA have the ability to
store generational trauma? And it skilling? Does? We we already we already
know the answers to all of this. Science has shown that we we basically
like right now I am, I am rep resenting the collective knowledge base of
the experiences of my myself, my own first hand experience, and the experiences
of the six generations before me. This is this is all ascertainable. Now
we've done the work. But we can we can, we can do the
effort. We can put forth that there are things that you can respond to
in a way that can only be ascertained. They've done this with studies of
animals and things where you know, they expose, expose, exposed, and
then next thing you know, they wait a couple of generations and they can
get the appropriate response from a creature that has never even themselves directly been exposed
to the threat, but it responds in the appropriate time and has the understanding.
So generational education we know to be built in for at least six generations.
Yeah, and this is how we work. It kind of spans further
than that too, to a degree. If you take it so there was
I don't know the animal, so I'm paraphrasing and take it with a grain
of salt. It's it's it's something like this. There was like a group
of chimps that used learned to use a tool, and it was in this
part of the world, right, like one part of the world, not
a one hundred monthly experiment. Is that what that is? That's that's what
you're getting at with this, is that you can you can have you can
raise collective consciousness or understanding or education of things by a exposure amounts to others.
And yes, this is one of the quirks of science. Everybody's been
screaming from the mountaintops for the last couple of years. You have to trust
the sirs, right, well, they're being very selective in the science that
they trust because nobody wants to discuss these peculiar aspects of observable physics and science.
And this is the one hundredth monkey experiment where we see that things occur
where you can have a population that you know, all of a sudden,
you train a certain amount of the population in a task, and the rest
just seem to know it as if they had men exposed to it, but
they had not. Yeah, I mean this is so where did that knowledge
come from? It transcended space and time apparently, And that's exactly what I
was getting at. Yeah, so you're absolutely right the one hundred monkeys.
Yeah. Yeah, So there's some sort of collective consciousness that got enough exposure
that now that the collective just is distributed, the partinent information cool now that
can happen. That is is that what basic instinct is, is that why
a baby sea turtle nose to high tail it right for the water right when
it comes out. I mean, yes, there's a certain there's a certain
amount of preprogramming that has come from previous iterations of experience. So yes,
we are we are part of that collective in many ways. I mean,
you can you can play with the numbers and words here a lot. What
you could also say is you are more of your not experienced than you are
of even your own experience, So you for the most part reacting in a
way that has nothing to do with the partinents of the situation that you're in,
but previous experiences reactions which would most likely be wholly inappropriate. It it's
weird, Yeah, it's it's it gets it gets really peculiar really fast when
we start to have massively different considerations for how the reality about us actually functions,
and it's way more complex than we've been told or even could imagine.
Yeah, absolutely correct, Absolutely, that's a that's an even more bare way
of putting it, because that's more accurate is that there has been a lot
of applied intention and investment in limiting our imaginations. I oh my god,
yes it and it's and it's and it's sometimes it feels so obvious, like
to me at least, And maybe it's just that, you know, I'm
one of these people who happens to just see through see through it now,
you know, I have that ability. There's something but it's it's like,
how does and and and I think it's like you said, how is not
How are you guys not putting this all together? How do you not see
what I see? Because from where I'm sitting, it all is connected,
It all makes sense. It all we're not it's there's a bigger story starting
to be told. Uh. And it's been being It's been an eighty year
thing, right, you know, so it's probably longer than that. But
it seems to be a recurring cycle. It's happen. But again, yes,
happens in cycles. So it's is it something that is just natural with
the growth of a society? Does it just does it? Does every society
or culture or planet go through the same processes? You know? Is it?
What do you do you believe in reincarnation? Do you think that that
that we are just ourselves and then that we're gone? Or do we go
to avin or do we do we get circled back and recycled like would the
universe would suggest, like it does with everything else. I think scientifically you
could make the best case for reincarnation. Yeah, I would be right there
with you, and I would say that's why that information has also been hidden
from us. And while we've also been taught to fear death as if it's
the end all, say all in regards to our experience. So being able
to hang that over our heads and and then bill you for life after death
through your favorite religion of choice, you know, to offer you salvation through
penance and fees was also just a business practice and intel gathering. I mean,
welcome to the confessional booth. Tell the priest every horrible thing. Oh
now, the priesthood knows everything going wrong in town. Is it possible that
if you had the low down on everyone in town that there might be some
nefarious ways to do some fundraising? Yeah? Yeah, absolutely, This is
just it's the nature of the beast. We have to look at human nature
and the cycles of things, and you know, we're just getting to another
one of those points in time where we learn what happens after an excessive period
of time of the rich stepping on the throats of the poor with their mighty
boot. Right. I think it's you know, it's so funny to think
about sometimes because it seems we've fallen so far, and you know, I'm
reminded of the our babble right right when you get there, God strikes you
down and throws different languages at you right now. You can't communicate. Don't
come this close again, or I will strike you down right. And it
seems just like, I don't know, are we beating as a population held
at checkmate? If not, we're extremely close to it. I've not been
trying to prost the size to people that were in some good position. I
do not come bearing great news. I have terrible news that requires people to
get rapidly into a state of action to help mitigate this problem or things will
get way worse real quick. So I mean, I'm just I'm you know
it's it is the proverbial yelling of fire in the you know, fully occupied
movie theater that at this stage of the game, you're you're either gonna get
up and react to the alarm call or you're gonna suffer accordingly. And I
get that a lot of people at this stage of the game are hitting me
with prove this, prove that you know what it's there's a time and place
for everything, And at the time that the place is burning and someone's just
telling you to run for your life, it's not the time when you start
saying, I'm gonna need a link. Can you the fire start sir,
can you get are you sure that we're all in trouble? Or is it
you know it's it's you know so it's it's I'm just I'm trying to do
my best to warn people that there's a circumstance that requires immediate action. But
people are extremely resistant to hearing such a thing nowadays, Like how dare you
tell me I have to do something? I mean, that is almost the
biggest party foul on the planet now, is telling people you have to you
have to do something about something. They've coined it now. It's the they
call it the trust me bro. Okay, that's what they call it,
the trust me bro testimony. There you go, you have to trust me
bro? You know that kind so so like people like Matt Ford of The
Good Trouble Show like that they've coined those kind of terms, like the oh
so the trust me bro attitude. It's like, all right, dude,
it's pretty a teleprompter again, see you later. Yeah, not is it,
Matt No, Matt Lasow's he does great work. Yeah. So the
ford Ford kid from that show, he calls it that. It drives me
insane, drives me insane because it's like, again, you know, these
UFO sightings and cases. It's not like we're working off best evidence in the
world. No. Yeah, I mean that's the part that erics me,
is like, hey, if if, if someone is going to turn to
me and say, you're going to have to prove what you're saying, well,
I'm just gonna I'm just going to demand reciprocity because I have the documentation,
I have pictures, video experience, I can back up what I'm saying.
So what I just basically suggest to everybody else is you need to start
doing more than trusting the other BS artists in these conversations. That's where I'm
coming from, is I can actually support what I'm saying, And I don't
understand how the general population is apparently currently accepting a trust me Bro circumstance for
almost everything that they hold as an opinion because they're just they're regurgitating stuff from
people that they like what that person says, but those people aren't providing anything.
No, they don't have an original idea, right, so we're getting
trust me Bro by proxy information. Yeah, it's it's it's again. It's
a giant contradiction. It's a walking contradiction. Again, for the most part.
This is this is again. This is the big problem with disclosure is
that we have at least echo chambers of people passing around the most recent cool
story. Did you hear about whistleblower X? Yeah, he just shut up
out of nowhere. There is absolutely nothing to back up his claims. But
isn't that a cool story? Imagine if what he said was true and the
UFO community has gotten to a point where it is so well fed, if
you will, that it is now like you said, it's it's consistently looking
to be gratified. Yeah, I mean, we could probably just start paying
attention, like, what's the date that this new guy came out? When's
going to be the date that the next night? I mean, can we
just start following the frequency and stop, you know, let's just make it
official and find out how many days go by before they feed us with the
brand new have you heard about guy? That's actually a good idea. Yeah,
I mean, it's it's obviously going on. Somebody run the numbers on
how often they feed us a new feeder fish in the UFO community. Yeah,
he came up on four twenty, so uh yeah, then you ever
owned was fucking stone out of their out of their gills, and uh he
went onto a Twitter space. As that was not recorded. The only copies
of it exist through various channels that have different clips of it. You know
that they were like I like, they were live and they heard it was
happening, so then they tuned into it, you know what I mean,
So they not no one has the full thing. No God for that amazing
coincidence that these random nobodies just happened to be there, That's what I mean.
And it was like the next day I woke up and everyone's talking about
Jason Sands this, Jason Sands that, and I'm like, well, who
the fuck is Jason Sands? And then oh and when and where's the where's
the proof? I mean, right right after that, I I hear everybody
talking about a person and a story. I've yet to hear any of the
proof presented. Yeah, well he releases d D They what are they called?
D D two fourteen? Okay, but yeah, that just says that
I was in the Air Force for this time, this amount of time.
I mean, so what yeah, I mean, what are we talking about?
Has legitimately been proven? Okay, so now we can prove that this
person was in the Air Force between a certain periods of dates. Copy that
what does that prove? Yeah, And the community keeps saying that, oh,
he's been vetted by this guy, this guy, this guy. It's
like, okay, okay, you know what that means, right, Vetted
just means that they backed his his They ran a background check and they made
sure he is who he says he is, not that the claims that he
says are true. They're running that the lid and to you know, be
big picture here, I mean, who do we put in these positions of
authority to vet people? Because I'm currently going through the ringer of the Antarctica
topic and running into knuckleheads like Linda Moulton. How and people have somehow put
her in charge of vetting people that are discussing the topic of antarctica. Boy
do I find that hilarious. I have a person who's never been to Antarctica
who is now somehow an authority on the topic. That is quite a laugh.
This is are you how disclosure works? Are you being pastious? You
being real? I mean dead serious? I had I had a conversation with
her where she was attempting to vet me, and it got really ugly because
she started basedarticularly like being condescending to me for being a plumber and not a
physicist at the South Pole, and basically just started talking down to me like,
well, what would you know? And I just found it hilarious because
they're long and short of it was, I would know a lot more than
you would, a lady. Yeah, right, you know, so it's
like, again, who who's in charge of vetting who? How about I
just come out and express and express to the community that they're being lied to
by all these other figureheads and gatekeepers in regards to the topic of Antarctica.
And it's easy for me to know that because I've been there and these other
people have not, So I don't know. It's just that simple. They're
liing to you. They're scumbags. They have no clue what's going on down
there, and they appear to be all somehow loosely affiliated to some organization that's
trying to control the conversation about Antarctica, and it seems to be working really
well. It's quite a little network of lunatics they have on this topic.
Huh, you just gave me something. I'm gonna have to look into a
little bit further because last I checked, Linnimal now is an expert in like
the cattle mutilation stuff, but there's no cattle down right, actually got parlayed
into it. As you know, there's some whistleblowers that they claim to have
the claim that they wintered at Macmurdo and all, I mean, this is
all again. It's such that Linda moth And has never been to Antarctica and
would have no idea how when someone reaches out to her to conclude whether or
not they were actually in the program. So they're they're getting bamboozled and played
with at best, or they know that it's crap and they still disseminated anyhow,
which would be even worse. But regardless, as someone who's actually been
there again, it's very easy for me to see that they're getting crap info.
Yeah, I mean, these are the same people who throw award ceremonies
for their buddies and give them lifetime for even rewards. Mm hmm, you
know what I mean, So like we have to no fucking just a shame
of man. It's like, oh my god. And once you step back,
it's so easy to see and that's what I mean. I guess the
moral of the conversation is when someone comes out and they have a story to
tell you, they have credibility to their name, They've given you no reason
to doubt them before. Why can't you take their word? Like I mean,
there's got to be we have to give some value to the testimony of
the experiences of others. I mean, otherwise we're just, you know,
completely jaded. But it's one thing to trust somebody. It's another thing to
have discernment gain through life experience, to just have an understanding. It also
helps to have actual evidence. I mean, all of these things add to
growth in these information streams. So a lot of where I'm coming from right
now is that I don't truly want to be against anyone so to say I
believe that, like you said earlier, to some like you know, we
all have a bit of information in regards to figuring out the big picture of
the puzzle. So I'm not really I'm not really trying to push anyone down
as much as I am trying to push to the front of the conversation those
people that are involved that do have proof, just because it's way more advantageous
to the growth of the truth and the understanding of the people by just prioritizing
that. I mean, it's just that simples. It will accomplish a lot
more for all of us if we stop wasting our time trying to figure out
the veracity of the statements of people that show up to the table, admittedly
with no proof, right, I mean, it just seems to me like
a waste of energy. Let's get more people to the table that do have
proof and now take that and run with it. What does this mean?
What do we do as a people with this new found truth? And how
do we expend our energy more efficiently with this info? And keep going that
way? Just seems to me to be more honest and what humanity needs.
And you've you you have testified to Arrow and the Senate Select, the Intelligence
Committee, the Senate Intelligence Committee, sen Uh yeah, intelligence community. So
do you do you think that it helped move the ball forward? It all?
Uh? You know, with Arrow's latest historical review, it just doesn't
seem like it's an organization, uh that's going to help disclosure at this at
this point juncture. So, I mean, I don't know how your experience
was with them when testifying, but you probably had a better audience with the
Senate. I think there is a lot going on behind the scenes. I
think the conversations that I had with both of those factions did bear fruit,
so to say good. I think that a lot of things are happening under
false pretenses. I think that ARROW was, by its construction and design,
by its primary mission. I believe it was set up to fail, that
the information in the capacity as designed for that group was going to get squashed.
But I believe that there were folks that had access to everything while that
operations running, and it had more to do with giving them unfettered access to
everything going on. And I think through informing that observatory team there was ground
gained. And I would say the same thing for the folks over at the
Senate Intelligence Committee was I think that I think what they were really looking to
confirm was that there are these technologies are in operation and that they need to
realize that there is a lack of oversight and control measures need to start being
applied to bring these rogue factions back into I guess you would say operations that
have oversight of the public that's funding them. Yeah, I mean, we
have a right to know. I mean we absolute we we don't. And
this is the thing about the government, dude, I don't care what you
know. Black all the numbers, if you all the you know, if
if there's a video of a UFO and you see beings, right, I
want to see the video, but I don't care where it's taking. Like
if you need to black out some some some some numbers so that our enemies,
you know, don't know our capabilities, that's fine, that's cool.
I get it. You got to protect your sources, methods and means,
right, I get it. Right. National security is a legitimate thing.
But it doesn't mean that you need to overclassify everything, right, because that's
where the problems are is over classification and and and just absolutely no oversight,
no, no, nobody when you answer to nobody, Yeah there in lines.
Of the problems that we're dealing with now is is that we have these
groups with wild technology and they're just literally able to do whatever they want to
do. There's a lot of room for error, like cause earthquakes in the
world, or flying away with thousands of children to put them on the black
market just because you can. I mean, there was an event that just
happened in Behina recently that certainly fits the bill for peculiar. One of the
really peculiar things is how you know thousands of children are just simply missing,
huh, not dead bodies in the fires, children that were released from school
into an emergency situations. So the school released them, and now they're missing
thousands of children. I mean, we really need to look around on this
planet and reassess what's going on and what could bad people actually be doing.
I forget who, I forget who said it because I bastardized quotes all the
time. But somebody said back in the day, the only thing that it
takes for evil to prevail is for good people to do nothing. I think
it was goth that said that, but I know, yeah, you nailed
it. That's what's going on right now is that there's massive amounts of investment
to make us believe that nothing bad is going on, and then that's all
it takes. It's just good people doing nothing as it's just going on around
as constantly. What they think, well they yeah, they think put Ukraine
flag in their bio bio on Twitter is doing something yeah, which is which
is pure lunacy because it's like, oh, look at you unique poop.
You know, you're supporting an activity that's just meant to help your government fleece
you. Literally, it's it's it's it's one of the greatest money laundering operations
ever put upon the American taxpayer. Yeah, absolutely absolutely, And then and
that that goes, that goes, that's a whole show in itself, right.
But because the Biden family is not up no good. Yeah, they
got some stuff going on, everyone's quick to call Trump's flight plights. But
yeah, right, everybody's everybody's And don't get me wrong, I grew up
on Long Island, so I never really grew up with an affinity for the
Dawn. I'm very familiar with who he is. But you're right with that
being said, I mean, if we're honestly to just you know, go,
you know, crime family compared to crime family, Yeah, we're pretty
We're pretty matched, if you want to call it that, right, like
in corruption here, So again, yay, the only two people that are
going to end up being on the legitimate contenders because RFK, if he runs
as an independent, the only thing that he can do is is, I
would say, disrupt the campaign of one of the other. So, you
know, and there's I don't know, there's a I would love to see
something like that be pulled off. It would it would kind of read at
this stage of the game, how can we predict how this current iteration of
the circus will end? What will be the grand finale? Now that we
know that the whole thing is an amazing show, what it certainly is not
is is some semblance of we the people for the people voting process that is
untainted and noble. No, it's a it's a I mean, can you
honestly tell me that you're completely confident that whomever you vote for will be untainted,
unmolested and go in as you expected? Are you? Are you a
thousand percent confident in that? No? No, absolutely, Yeah. I
think there's a serious issue when with the are are our processes? Yeah?
I feel like I feel like the accomplishment of the political part parties is that
they get one hundred percent of the population to be focused on fifty percent of
the problem. Yeah. We have all the Democrats saying that the Trump faction
rigged the election. We have the Trump faction saying that the liberal Democrats rigged
the election. Okay, cool, So if we stand back far enough,
what we're hearing clearly is apparently the election was rigged by someone. Yes,
the common denominator is rinked. Correct. Right, Let's let's start. Let's
forget the devil in the details of the things that divide us on whose side
is manipulating the ballot box most, But let's stick to the things that are
common to us and realize that the ballot box is no longer our friend.
Finally, right, it's like, finally get to talk to someone understands.
Right, may step back, guys, take a step back. Look,
yeah, look, it's so right there. It's just we are not most
of us are not seeing what we need to see, and and the longer
that we don't, the worse it's going to get. The like you said,
the faster it's going to go, the faster it's going to get worse.
In your in your honest assessment of what this device could do. Should
is there more concern on your part for nuclear weapons or one of these?
Uh? I think you will never ever, ever, ever have a nuclear
conflict on this planet. I believe it is rolled out like a dog and
pony show with great regularity to attempt to put the fear of God and nuclear
conflict on the minds of people, because there's value to playing that card.
Every now and then again, there's probably freak and see that we can pay
attention to on this and show trend lines and be like, oh, they're
three days over from Oh, here we go. It's a King jong Un
news. You know. Oh, they just made it a missile that shoots
a little bit further than the last time we pulled this story up. Yep,
you know, but I never figured out how to put a missile on
a boat, So don't worry, you know, it's always Uh, this
missile, if fired from the EPI center of North Korea through the air,
it could make it. Oh, it could almost make it to us.
Okay, So if they took that same missile and put it on a boat
or twelve of them or fifty of them, they can just line them up
right off the coast of California, and the exact shit we can do about
it. Is that what you're saying, Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's
exactly. But yeah, they don't ever want to discuss actual reality. They
just want to bring everything right up to the edge that they could then bring
you back from So a lot of these threats are just their their pseudo threats
to cause manipulations in stock prices to fluctuate. And I think a lot of
people see that there's something wrong with our media right right, our mainstream media.
I think, I really do. I generally do think that most people
do know that they are it's it's not they're they're not getting the news anymore.
They're getting their news. We talked about tailored content, tailored advertisements with
news too, people, because now the programming is just it's doing the reverse
instead of it looking for the information that you're interested in and and working actively
that it's just now they can just mold you. Yeah, I mean they
have control over what information is put in front of you. And we certainly
can observe that humans are very programmable. Well, now they just have access
to the device that you choose, n as if it's a choice now,
right, you know, And and what audible alarms it takes to get your
attention. All of these things can be measured. Oh, his pulse rate
went up on that one when he looked at the screen. Will send more
of those those ones really get his attention and then you end up with a
catered uh. Like you said, Like I said, you're getting your news,
not the news. You're getting your news, so you're getting what they're
putting in front of you, which is even worse. You're getting you're getting
their news in their news that they know you will find palatable because they've done
the research. It's a shit sandwich that they can serve to you and guarantee
that you will say, God, damn, that was delicious. Yep,
and you will. You'll you'll sit on the toilet reading that article. You'll
you'll you'll quite that article to you. It'll be the worst poison that you've
ever ingested, and you won't even know it. You'll love it and you'll
tell your friends how great it was and recommend it. Maybe you share it.
You need to try this ship. It was terrible, but boy,
let me tell you how you need it. My man, Eric, dude,
you are so down to earth. Is it's really comforting? Uh to
talk to someone like that, that that you think is not not not not
that you think that, or that you come off as I've been told,
I don't think like other people. Yeah, you're unique, You're very unique.
You're very fun to talk to you, very down to earth. I've
had a blast and I definitely love to having back on season two. So
this is a great chat. I enjoyed it. Yeah, man, you're
awesome and I listen. I think I think there's validity to a lot of
what you're saying. All most of what you're saying. I think you clearly
were put on our path. I think that it's safe to say that you've
been doing or you may have been upon in a game that you didn't know
existed. And it's not your fault, right, it happens. It happens.
It happens to people, and half the people in this world are probably
in the same moat and don't even know it. The vast majority of people
on this planet are not operating of their own free will and accord. Every
day, they're doing something that they're obliged to do for someone else, which
is no way for us all to be living. But it's certainly the social
structure that's been constructed around us that again is stuff that we should be debating
and and and you know, going on about and figuring out is this is
this the best way to live? Right? Is this what our children deserve.
Is this the planet that we want to leave behind? Is this better
than when we found it? Or worse? Wow? But what a perfect
set, what a perfect ending. I literally couldn't said that better. Uh,
dude, uh, you keep telling your story. Keep keep your guns,
don't don't fall off, don't don't let the the the armchair experts uh
drive you away. Because you're you're doing You're doing a service. And I
truly think that that there there will be names in in in the history of
book. I'm not sure who's yet, but out of this process, there
will be names that that are cemented in history, and with a story like
yours, it could be you. And I think what you're doing is very
commendable, and I think we need more people like you, and I think
we need more people from that station to wake up and come corroborate you.
Yeah, that would be that would be advantageous. But you know, where
can people find you? Where you know your social I don't know if you
have a Twitter, but where can people uh uh follow your work and what
you're doing and and and everything that is going on currently? The best way
to get a hold of my efforts on the internet are at deciphering dot tv
right there. The gentleman just put it up on the screen, Thank you,
sir. Deciphering dot tv is my website and that's basically what I do
to try to get the truth out to the world without censorship. I mean,
some platforms are better than others, but there's no platform like mine.
I know. I'm not censoring myself, so people can just go there,
and that's basically where I try to collect everything like this video today, I'll
try to get a link up and have access from the website so that everything
can just be found in one spot. I'm trying to do my best to
speak to as many people as possible and get the dots connected for folks.
But I'm learning that it's very challenging for people to get their truth out in
the format that's being presented to the world. So I'm just throwing my hat
and the ring with Deciphering dot tv and I'm going to do my best try
to help folks get the truth out to the community. Well much respect here.
Uh and you're always welcome back into to tell anything UH any updates.
We'd love to be involved. Uh and UH we wish you uh an amazing
ride. Uh, and I think again. Uh, you keep your head
to the to the If you right what you said earlier, you're good at
working in in in hasty climates, harsh climates, hard climates just considered another
harsh climate. Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, the disclosure community is a very
harsh climate. So I will weather the storm man Eric Heckler, uh,
former Navy and rate the end contractor. Uh and uh whistle blower who you
know has blown the whistle on some advanced technology at the South Pole Station which
the military industrial complex has been keeping out of the eye of the public through
means like special access programs on acknowledge especially, you know these black programs where
your tax baller, you are literally paying for the secrecy to be enacted upon
you. So, if anything, I hope this conversation at least allows you
to wake up to that fact. So just be known, or just let
it be known that you are allowing this to be done to you. So
just keep your eyes open, all right, guys, you know what it
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