Something has Been Watching Us? ||Dr Beatriz Villarroel || NEW PEER REVIEWED PAPER ON TRANSIENT OBJECTS IN SPACE
In this impromptu DEEP DIVE, I break down Dr. Beatriz Villarroel's (x.com/@DrBeaVillarroel) BOMBSHELL peer-reviewed papers:
• 70,000+ VANISHING objects in these 1950s ERA plates = REFLECTIVE MIRRORS in GEO orbit (PRE-SPUTNIK!)
• 22-SIGMA shadow deficit PROVES sunlight glints from ARTIFICIAL objects
• 45% SPIKE during US NUKE TESTS (1949-62) + UAP flaps = TECHNO-SIGNATURES?
• DEBUNKERS MOVING GOALPOSTS... PLUS: LATEST on 3I/ATLAS interstellar object (Discovered July 2025)
• 5KM+ NUCLEUS | 58 km/s SPEED | CO2-DOMINATED COMA
• ANTI-TAIL JET defying physics | Avi Loeb's ALIEN TECH theory
• Mars orbiters IMAGING NOW | Europa Clipper flyby Oct 30! Gatekeepers EXPOSED
👉 DOWNLOAD VASCO CATALOG: vaniscosources.org
👉 TRACK 3I/ATLAS: eyes.nasa.gov/apps/asteroids
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Speaker 1: Good evening, seekers of truth, seekers of the unseen. Uh,
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Speaker 1: about the sky's dirty little secrets, the ones that governments
Speaker 1: tend to whisper about in skiffs, scientists bury in footnotes,
Speaker 1: and the disclosure movement claws at like a cat. I
Speaker 1: am Ty Roberts, and I am having trouble with my
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Speaker 1: no guests, just me, you and the story that's been
Speaker 1: literally screaming for attention. It's all over X right now,
Speaker 1: big debate, and we'll kind of start at the beginning.
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Speaker 1: like literally everyone is talking about it and I have
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Speaker 1: I don't want to get too too bogged down in it,
Speaker 1: but I definitely also uh want to give my like
Speaker 1: unfiltered and unfettered attention. So like I said, let's start
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the hypothesis. Uh that, let this
Speaker 1: feuse and we'll kind of trace it through the the
Speaker 1: white paper process. Uh. You know, it survived the gauntlet
Speaker 1: of peer review. Uh, and I think that is a
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's what people and debunkers have been
Speaker 1: asking for for so long, you know, like video evidence
Speaker 1: was no longer good enough, pictures not clearly not good enough.
Speaker 1: So they what we wanted, and what I think a
Speaker 1: lot of the community wanted was active like PhD scientists
Speaker 1: and experts working on this and writing papers. And now
Speaker 1: that we have that, I mean, it's it's like it's
Speaker 1: it's the goalpost. Just keep getting pushed back. And I
Speaker 1: get it, Like I get it, there are things that
Speaker 1: that we need to be skeptical about. But I mean,
Speaker 1: come on, who made these people who have made a
Speaker 1: career out of dismissal are are almost and I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna name anyone, but some of the debunkers they seem
Speaker 1: to be just as bad as like the the UFO gurus,
Speaker 1: and it's just like take them at their word and
Speaker 1: take them at this and you know what they say
Speaker 1: is the truth, and you know anything outside of that
Speaker 1: is uh, your your opposition. Like we can't disagree, we
Speaker 1: can't sit in the same room disagree, but at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, shake hands and walk away at
Speaker 1: least maybe learning something or showing a bit of empathy
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Speaker 1: shoes of the other person. There's no more of that
Speaker 1: right in the world that we live in right now.
Speaker 1: It's just if you don't agree, you become the enemy.
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Speaker 1: Red Pandaquala. It's like this stuff is taking over the drama,
Speaker 1: the inherent chaos that seems to be the UFO ex community.
Speaker 1: And I'm guilty, Like I I'm not Jeremy Corbel and
Speaker 1: say that I don't interact with it. I definitely do,
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Speaker 1: as I can be, you know, looking at it from
Speaker 1: both sides, just like I do on the show. But anyway,
Speaker 1: I want to look at how every turn the gatekeeper
Speaker 1: seem to have official disclosure, uh, moving the goalposts, dangling
Speaker 1: transparency like it's a carrot out a string and it's
Speaker 1: just always right out of reach. It's maybe not bedtime
Speaker 1: rereading for the casual stargazer, though, I'll try to keep
Speaker 1: it kind of simple. No PhD required, wink wink uh.
Speaker 1: If your knee deep in UAP lore, I think you'll
Speaker 1: not belong to the frustrations. If you're new, welcome. By
Speaker 1: the end, you'll see why these vanishing lights aren't just
Speaker 1: dots on old plates. They're a mirror to our place
Speaker 1: and the cosmos. And because the universe loves a plot
Speaker 1: with a twist, we'll cap it with an interstellar wildcard.
Speaker 1: Everyone's watching right now, and it's three eye outlets. It's
Speaker 1: the third cosmic drifter crashing our solar party with with
Speaker 1: anomalies that make the Vasco transient kind of you know,
Speaker 1: look like not child's play. I wouldn't say that, but
Speaker 1: I think people are running rampant with the three I
Speaker 1: Atlas story. There's definitely some oddities. I know. I've been
Speaker 1: in talks with people like al Vi lobe, Mark D'Antonio.
Speaker 1: They don't agree at all. But then also, I've been
Speaker 1: talking with h my NASA that the NASA Chief of
Speaker 1: Aerospace Medicine, who also you know, uh worked in you know,
Speaker 1: chemical engineering and was a flight surgeon and uh did
Speaker 1: did a lot of a lot of a lot of work.
Speaker 1: I got him talking to me about it too, saying,
Speaker 1: you know, certain things don't add up. So uh yeah,
Speaker 1: buckle up. Uh we're gonna whether you're like it or not, Uh,
Speaker 1: we're gonna. We're gonna jump into it. So let's rewind
Speaker 1: uh to twenty seventeen. Ironically, Uh no, not going where
Speaker 1: you think we're going. Uh. But Beatrice Villa Roel doctor
Speaker 1: Bia to her ex followers at doctor bea Villa Reale
Speaker 1: if you're tweeting or ex posting this later, she's a
Speaker 1: sweetest astrophysicist with a nose for the anomalas. She's not
Speaker 1: chasing little green men. She's very much a data hound,
Speaker 1: sifting through dusty archives like a cosmic archaeologist, and she
Speaker 1: stumbles on something odd in the Palomar Observatory Sky Survey
Speaker 1: plate posse. I don't know if I'm saying that right,
Speaker 1: but those black and white snapshots from nineteen forty nine
Speaker 1: to nineteen fifty eight, and that is what's mapping the
Speaker 1: northern heavens on glass point like flash stars that blink
Speaker 1: on for a heartbeat under forty five minutes. Cosmically, that
Speaker 1: is so quick. Uh and then vanish no trace uh
Speaker 1: in follow up exposures. Uh, no matches in modern catalogs
Speaker 1: like sd S S or you know guya natural Uh
Speaker 1: meteors uh streak, meteors streak. Uh. These are static points.
Speaker 1: Asteroids move predictably. Yes, that's how I wrote it. So
Speaker 1: these yeah, these aren't typical. And I know, Uh, I'm not.
Speaker 1: I don't pretend to know what this all means, which
Speaker 1: is why I was going to say, I did grab
Speaker 1: the interview that she did with Ross Coltart's I want
Speaker 1: to play a couple of clips of that while we
Speaker 1: go through it. Uh, I actually are. I did talk
Speaker 1: to her and she did agree to come on the podcast.
Speaker 1: She has an answered sense. Obviously she's been been super busy,
Speaker 1: but you know, I really want her to come on
Speaker 1: and explode it, explain her hypothesis. But it hits like
Speaker 1: a Roague commet. You know, these are transient objects vanishing
Speaker 1: and appearing, you know sources during century of observations or
Speaker 1: VASCO for short over seven years, her team combed six
Speaker 1: hundred thousand plates on earthing over seventy thousand of those ghosts.
Speaker 1: But here's what's interesting and kind of what has kept
Speaker 1: to me interested. They cluster in linear alignments, hugging the
Speaker 1: geosynchronous Earth Orbit GEO that sweet spot thirty six thousand
Speaker 1: kilometers up, where as ats like weather birds loiter not
Speaker 1: random scatter soldiers in formation marching across the sky. You know,
Speaker 1: early skeptic scoffed and you know said it was play
Speaker 1: defects and shadow geometry is something I've heard as of
Speaker 1: recent But it seems that uh or or what what
Speaker 1: was the other one? Emulsion glitches from the analog era,
Speaker 1: and and her counter has been statistical rigor. They're not
Speaker 1: just kind of like fuzzy smudges. They're sharp uh sub
Speaker 1: This is where I did when I had to look
Speaker 1: it up like four times. Uh there's sharp sub arc
Speaker 1: second points with magnitudes that are deliberate and and they
Speaker 1: vanished too quick for known junk meteors. Planes even early
Speaker 1: balloons leave trails. And again this is you know, an
Speaker 1: an era, that is you know, pre the space program,
Speaker 1: so so you know, nothing's supposed to be up there.
Speaker 1: So I want to bring in this what is it
Speaker 1: called this interview that she did and we'll go back
Speaker 1: to the other part in a minute, but hopefully you
Speaker 1: guys can hear this. Where is it? Let me know
Speaker 1: if you can hear.
Speaker 2: It identified objects into a peer review journal, especially journals
Speaker 2: as prestigious as the ones you're talking about. Let me
Speaker 2: do a quick summary. So the study that you did,
Speaker 2: you were looking at pre satellite transient sky events and
Speaker 2: you basically stylize nearly three hundred thousand short lived transient
Speaker 2: events that were captured on red sensitive photographic plates from
Speaker 2: the first Poloma Sky Survey. And these exposures were all
Speaker 2: taken between nineteen forty eight and before humans put satellites
Speaker 2: up in the nine to late nineteen fifties, and each
Speaker 2: of these exposures lasted about forty five fifty minutes, and
Speaker 2: you focused on identifying cases where three or more transient
Speaker 2: points appeared along a straight line during the same exposure.
Speaker 2: And the reason why those lines matter is if a
Speaker 2: single flash appears on a skyplate, it could be a glitch,
Speaker 2: but multiple point like lights perfectly aligned and visible in
Speaker 2: one long exposure photo that hints at something coordinated, possibly
Speaker 2: spinning or reflective objects. And you can rule out natural
Speaker 2: sources like meteors, stars and asteroids. They don't line up
Speaker 2: and appear simultaneously. You can rule out plate defects because
Speaker 2: you were able to show, weren't you as you told
Speaker 2: us previously that when you go into the shadow of
Speaker 2: the sun, obviously it removes the reflectiveness, so it's it's
Speaker 2: not a plate defect, and you basically what the only
Speaker 2: plausible explanation is artificial reflections from flat highly reflective services
Speaker 2: in geosynchronous orbit. That's that's exactly what explains you're talking about.
Speaker 2: How many of these objects are we talking about, Beatrice.
Speaker 3: So we had two candidates that are highly interesting that
Speaker 3: the paper resulted in, and there's still one little caveat
Speaker 3: for these two candidates. There's a minuscal chance that it
Speaker 3: might be something called optical ghosting on the in the instruments.
Speaker 1: What when when that door keeps doing that, I keep
Speaker 1: thinking it's in here, So I'm like, what the hell
Speaker 1: is that? So I hope everyone I got this camera
Speaker 1: switcher and I'm just so obsessed with the t our
Speaker 1: feed so fun to do, but yeah, I'm so I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I do have to stop it every couple seconds so
Speaker 1: we don't get copyright straight. But again trying too that
Speaker 1: was creepy.
Speaker 3: How do I speaks against it is because we looked
Speaker 3: at the blue sensitive images and you don't see anything there.
Speaker 3: If it would be optical ghosting, you would also see
Speaker 3: with the same setup of the instruments, you would see
Speaker 3: something there, but we don't. However, we always always leave
Speaker 3: that little caveat. But what even more talks about these
Speaker 3: things are little is because when we look at all
Speaker 3: the transients, not only at aligne ones, but all the
Speaker 3: transits in the Earth shadow, we do see this huge
Speaker 3: deficit of transience. And that really speaks for that. What
Speaker 3: we are dealing with our solar reflections from very flat,
Speaker 3: very reflective objects in synchronous orbits.
Speaker 2: Doctor tellby what could this be? What are these objects?
Speaker 3: Well, these are objects before Sputnik one, when humans have
Speaker 3: nothing up there, and these things, no matter what they are,
Speaker 3: they need to be really frat reflective, like a mirror.
Speaker 3: And I personally don't know anything natural that produces and
Speaker 3: that looks like that that fulfills.
Speaker 1: I know something and I've had a vi lobe. Oh
Speaker 1: this is a good moment for Oh no, I'm already
Speaker 1: on that camera, so let me go to this camera
Speaker 1: and say, this is a good moment for a camera.
Speaker 1: So which I had a vi Lobe in that chair.
Speaker 1: I have not aired the episode yet, but I had
Speaker 1: Avi Lobe in that chair a while back, and I
Speaker 1: need to invite him back in. But a muamua what
Speaker 1: Avi was saying that oh mulla mula looked like and
Speaker 1: that it could possibly be a probe and I don't
Speaker 1: think we got enough data on it. And again I'm
Speaker 1: not saying that that's exactly what it is. But you
Speaker 1: know if three eye and that's why I tied three
Speaker 1: eye at liss In because three iye Atlas is giving
Speaker 1: that very that nickel with no iron. It's it's giving
Speaker 1: that signature which is we've never seen we don't see
Speaker 1: nickel without iron, and you know iron being very heavy
Speaker 1: and corrosive, we don't use it. We separate it and
Speaker 1: use that in our space program. So again this is
Speaker 1: pre space program. So again pointing towards an and uh I,
Speaker 1: three eye atlasts do I think it's an alien spaceship?
Speaker 1: Probably not. Is it interesting and could it be some
Speaker 1: sort of probe that does that that does hide itself
Speaker 1: as a rock or I think it's totally plausible and
Speaker 1: just I mean the de Bunkers are like even Mark
Speaker 1: D'Antonio is an astronomer and a good friend of mine,
Speaker 1: Like I kind of got a disagreement with them, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, like stop downplaying it like it's super interesting.
Speaker 2: It's these requirements, so I like correct in saying there
Speaker 2: are literally tens of thousands of these objects that you've detected.
Speaker 3: We see that roughly thirty five thousand transients are belonging
Speaker 3: to this kind of category, but that is just for
Speaker 3: the northern hemisphere, which means that we would need to
Speaker 3: have around seventy thousands of transients around I mean for
Speaker 3: the whole Earth. And from that we can estimate that
Speaker 3: maybe tens of thousands, two hundred thousands of objects around
Speaker 3: the Earth must have been there.
Speaker 2: So now we know that they were there in pre
Speaker 2: spot Nick nineteen fifties, what do we know about whether
Speaker 2: there's still there? Can we rule out the possibility or
Speaker 2: the problem ability that they're still there in geosynchronous orbit.
Speaker 3: I have no idea because if these are what they
Speaker 3: think they are, I mean, if these are artificial object
Speaker 3: which the signatures are pointing towards, I have no idea
Speaker 3: what they could have done or if they are there still.
Speaker 3: I would assume they're there still.
Speaker 2: But it's a reasonable conclusion, isn't it, doctor, that if
Speaker 2: these are artificial objects, some civilization has constructed them.
Speaker 1: Yes, I would say so.
Speaker 3: I mean it's not ours.
Speaker 2: And when your peer review colleagues asked you questions, were
Speaker 2: they aware of the significance of what this paper is
Speaker 2: these papers are pointing to, I don't know.
Speaker 3: We were talking about the technicalities, not about the implications.
Speaker 2: It's interesting because scientists get bogged down, and obviously for
Speaker 2: good reason, in exploring alternative prosiaic explanations. But when you
Speaker 2: think about it and step back from them, occasions of
Speaker 2: what you're saying, this is massive. You are the author
Speaker 2: or the lead author of two papers which essentially suggest
Speaker 2: that there are artificial constructed objects in geosynchronous Earth orbit
Speaker 2: in the nineteen fifties before humans sent up satellites, and
Speaker 2: to this day we don't know if those objects are
Speaker 2: still there. But they are indicative of something constructed.
Speaker 3: Isn't that exciting?
Speaker 2: Good for you? I mean, the implications are this might
Speaker 2: be the first scientific evidence of a non human intelligence,
Speaker 2: and it.
Speaker 3: Subtainly is going to be. What they like about this
Speaker 3: is that we are giving exact methods and strategies for
Speaker 3: people to explore the UFO question and a question if
Speaker 3: they are here, through just easily available methods many astronomers
Speaker 3: over the whole world can work with because these play
Speaker 3: archives exist in so many countries, and you don't need
Speaker 3: to be part of some very expensive, big collaboration because
Speaker 3: if you have access to this open data, anyone can
Speaker 3: go in. They can analyze these data sets, they can
Speaker 3: download them, and they can check if there's a deficit
Speaker 3: in the Earth shadow or if they see alignments. It's
Speaker 3: a very open source way of working. So I think, yes,
Speaker 3: we're going to be able to really pin down a
Speaker 3: very secure answer very soon if more people try to
Speaker 3: replicate this and work with the same questions.
Speaker 1: So fast forward. Since this interview, we're going to fast
Speaker 1: forward to twenty twenty five and Beatrice is not hypothesizing anymore.
Speaker 1: She's publishing white papers and drops them as a preprint
Speaker 1: on a place called Now I'm not familiar with what
Speaker 1: this is a R is it x I V or
Speaker 1: x I N, it's some whatever, it's some group and
Speaker 1: she co authors. Uh. The co authors on the paper
Speaker 1: include H Enrique Solano and UH Cadre of International Eyes.
Speaker 1: The bombshell Uh a twenty two sigma statistical uh deficit.
Speaker 1: That's not a TYPEO twenty two standard deviations. Uh. So
Speaker 1: that's the kind of number that makes uh lottery winds
Speaker 1: look probable. Anyway, the transients during Earth's shadow hours when
Speaker 1: the plate's caught the night side sky, Uh, sunlight out
Speaker 1: of glints are off. Uh, They're they're completely off. So
Speaker 1: what that says, I guess is that these aren't stars
Speaker 1: or quasars. Their reflections, like she said in the interview,
Speaker 1: from these flat mirror like uh surfaces, and you know
Speaker 1: that really again that drives me towards the idea of
Speaker 1: something like Omuamuha, which Avi said was uh, you know, uh,
Speaker 1: flat like a pancake. And if it if it was
Speaker 1: made of you know, these like three iye atlis, which
Speaker 1: you know was was nickel uh or it has a
Speaker 1: lot of nickel and no iron. That's a metallic surface,
Speaker 1: I mean, and that would you know kind of shine
Speaker 1: uh shine off. But again this is the pre the
Speaker 1: pre satellite era. So it's that is what is so interesting.
Speaker 1: But the debunkers, like you know, and and and the
Speaker 1: debunkers uh are the ones that uh you you you
Speaker 1: would probably expect. H. I don't wanna. I don't. It's
Speaker 1: we don't have to name any anyone. But I did
Speaker 1: bookmark a couple posts and so so Beatrice submitted her paper.
Speaker 1: It's been peer reviewed, which is again something that we've
Speaker 1: been asking for in the community for for so long.
Speaker 1: That that and a VI lobe and Harvard and you know,
Speaker 1: they were doing their thing with the Galileo project. Uh.
Speaker 1: Then there's Gary Nolan and the Saul Foundation. They're doing
Speaker 1: their thing. And it finally seemed like there were real scientists,
Speaker 1: like they were real, real like brilliant minds coming into
Speaker 1: this field and coming into it with with really not
Speaker 1: you know, not not again. They're not chasing little green men,
Speaker 1: so to say. But they're also not afraid to ask
Speaker 1: the question what if? And I think every scientist should
Speaker 1: ask that what if? And I think Beatrice especially has
Speaker 1: put forth data a peer reviewed paper, a white paper,
Speaker 1: but then she submits it to this place. Apparently it's
Speaker 1: like it's where papers go to to live or die,
Speaker 1: you know, and and some of them aren't even published,
Speaker 1: but they get put on there so that other scientists
Speaker 1: can read them and go through them, and you know,
Speaker 1: so it it apparently gets rejected from this site, which
Speaker 1: is also a site that or or a server, so
Speaker 1: to say that had put up and maybe I think
Speaker 1: I know when it exactly was, but they had put
Speaker 1: up a paper that you know, was challenging of what
Speaker 1: Beatrice is saying or putting forth in her paper. And
Speaker 1: the reasoning they gave her, and I have it, I'll
Speaker 1: pull it up in one second on Twitter. The reason
Speaker 1: and they gave her is said one of them was
Speaker 1: that it was just not of interest. And but they
Speaker 1: ran in a paper that was in challenging, challenging it,
Speaker 1: so it was of interest. Then is that what made
Speaker 1: them not interested in her?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: And again is that something we see where someone muddies
Speaker 1: the water right before before the real work can be done.
Speaker 1: We've been dealing with that in the UFO community for forever, literally,
Speaker 1: you know this the same time David Grush testifies. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, a Miami or or the Las Vegas alien
Speaker 1: thing happens and it just muddies the water, so no
Speaker 1: one cares about any of it. Or the Miami Mall
Speaker 1: happens while you know, this thing's happening, and it's just
Speaker 1: it happens to us all the time. So anyway, with
Speaker 1: that being said, it seems like that could be a reason.
Speaker 1: But this plot, this server does not take her paper
Speaker 1: and let me share on X Yeah, share this tab instead.
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Speaker 1: And that's that. So what you're essentially, what that says
Speaker 1: to me is that it's so hard to say it
Speaker 1: without sign without sounding like a complete and utter asshole.
Speaker 1: But to me, that that is just so blatant, it's
Speaker 1: so on the it's it's so it's so exactly what
Speaker 1: you'd accept. I mean, I expect right being in the
Speaker 1: in the in this community. And you know, it seems
Speaker 1: whenever we take three steps forward, we're taking eight back
Speaker 1: at the same time. And there is clearly something that
Speaker 1: is gatekeeping and and some something, whether it's some individuals,
Speaker 1: an entity, the deep state as people call it, or
Speaker 1: just uh, you know, uh stigma alone, whether it's bias
Speaker 1: actual bias on a human level, there is no place
Speaker 1: for people who think like that anymore. It's like we
Speaker 1: we're on a rock flying hurdling through space, and our
Speaker 1: soul like not only are we as a solar system
Speaker 1: hurtling through space, but our galaxy is hurtling through space,
Speaker 1: and that is all hurtling through space. Like the the
Speaker 1: the fact that we are not chasing down the biggest story.
Speaker 1: And and as scientists when and I think what another
Speaker 1: person said, let me go to it. It's Astral. He's
Speaker 1: a good friend of mine. What he said was he
Speaker 1: thinks that because in the paper, apparently they get to
Speaker 1: where the hell is it? Uh, they get to talking
Speaker 1: about nuclear Newton like nuclear uh connection.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: There was also a connection that I know she talks
Speaker 1: about uh with there was the connection with the Washington
Speaker 1: d c UH flyover that that, by the way, that
Speaker 1: is profound to me, that that that that was a
Speaker 1: connection uh to it, because I find that to be
Speaker 1: super interesting, super compelling. And I haven't read the whole thing.
Speaker 1: But if what she's saying is that at nuclear testing,
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know how it gets into nuclear.
Speaker 1: Oh here it is, Astrol said in his opinion the
Speaker 1: paper by doctor Villa Rouel likely got cut from the
Speaker 1: server for crossing into too many fields, those fields being
Speaker 1: astro nuclear physics and UAP data. Uh. The article is
Speaker 1: tough to classify, so it was rejected on scope. And
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is a I that he's
Speaker 1: pulling from here, but he gives some some reasons and
Speaker 1: moderator views on why he thinks it wasn't So I
Speaker 1: don't know there could be a rational explanation, uh, for
Speaker 1: for why it was not accepted. You know, maybe maybe
Speaker 1: I maybe I am letting my bias show. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but I thought it again, I find it wonderful. So
Speaker 1: here's this is Beatrice's post. So she posted wonderful news.
Speaker 1: Our two new VASCO papers are now peer reviewed, accepted,
Speaker 1: and published, and they reveal some extraordinary things. She finds
Speaker 1: statistically significant correlations between short lived transience. Again, this is
Speaker 1: a pre spot mix, a pre any space program, skyplates,
Speaker 1: UFO sightings and above ground nuclear tests. Wow. Again, nuclear tests,
Speaker 1: that's my area of interest. Especially we show a twenty
Speaker 1: two twenty two whatever that symbol is deficit. Oh that's
Speaker 1: what I had in the thing that I wrote out
Speaker 1: that I think I copied it from here deficit of
Speaker 1: transience inside Earth's shadow consistent And again that's a really
Speaker 1: interesting aspect of it in Earth's shadow. So they're not
Speaker 1: again anyway, so consistent with a fraction of these events
Speaker 1: originating from solar reflections from flat highly reflective surfaces in
Speaker 1: orbit before the Cuban space age began. Together with her
Speaker 1: earlier there, earlier U M n r a S paper.
Speaker 1: Uh these results from trip titch of new methods to
Speaker 1: investigate U A P using astronomical data. These they're independent
Speaker 1: HYE level journals and these independent peer review processes. These
Speaker 1: latest results raise a bold question. And yes, you know which, God,
Speaker 1: she's good. That was really good. If I had read
Speaker 1: it and clearly and concisely, that would have come off
Speaker 1: so much cooler hopefully. Uh So there what she's saying
Speaker 1: there is And then she explains what this organization is
Speaker 1: and it's where physicists and astronomers share pre oh pre prints.
Speaker 1: So if a paper isn't there, can you guys see this?
Speaker 1: Yeah you can. So it serves as the central hub.
Speaker 1: So this server serves as the central hub for open
Speaker 1: scientific exchange. We're unpublished, newly accepted, and even rejected manuscripts
Speaker 1: are shared so that other researchers can read tests. So
Speaker 1: there you go. Debunkers who are saying that these need
Speaker 1: to be replicated, Well, that's what she's saying. Test and
Speaker 1: build upon the work. It's how ideas circulate rapidly and transparently,
Speaker 1: long before and sometimes regardless of ah true formal publication. Now,
Speaker 1: both of our accepted in peer reviewed papers in PASP
Speaker 1: and scientific reports have been rejected from the server in
Speaker 1: one case, she was told at least an older work
Speaker 1: in the other, and that's the one that I mentioned
Speaker 1: that research was quote not of interest to the server
Speaker 1: and a platform impeer girl results, peer review and publication
Speaker 1: in high quality journals are no longer enough to satisfy
Speaker 1: ooh the gatekeepers. Scientists are being prevented from reading new results.
Speaker 1: The UFO stigma remained strong, and again I think I
Speaker 1: talked about that as well. So she is chalking it
Speaker 1: up to UFO stigma and maybe a little bit of
Speaker 1: gate keeping. What do you guys think in the comments?
Speaker 1: Let me know, I really you know, we're gonna be
Speaker 1: diving in this tomorrow into the live show, h and
Speaker 1: I'm super excited about it. I really am because I
Speaker 1: think this is I have so much to say on this,
Speaker 1: and it's it's really fascinating to me, this whole thing,
Speaker 1: the transience. And I'll play a little bit more of
Speaker 1: that clip, but I want to get something to hear
Speaker 1: so vetted. So I have had Mick I almost said,
Speaker 1: Mick wasp Mick West. I've had him on the show
Speaker 1: multiple times. And I say that because I I I'm
Speaker 1: having Tim Phillips on as well, and people have been
Speaker 1: pretty upset at me for that one for some reason,
Speaker 1: and then asking me to, you know, get involved in
Speaker 1: other drama ish stuff not maybe not drama. Maybe it's
Speaker 1: not drama, but like, I just want to have my
Speaker 1: discussions with these people. I want to ask them the
Speaker 1: hard questions about stuff like the Wall Street Journal article
Speaker 1: and Malmstrom and this bogus idea that an EMP like
Speaker 1: the directed EMP was used to and so that was happening.
Speaker 1: And I'm going a little off tangent here, But so
Speaker 1: you're telling me that that hazing ritual was used against
Speaker 1: are uh, the hazing ritual was used against people that
Speaker 1: were entering special access programs. You fucking lie to them
Speaker 1: and tell them that there's UFOs show them pictures, right,
Speaker 1: and then never tell them, never tell them that it
Speaker 1: was a hazing ritual. Just forget that the best part
Speaker 1: of it is them finding out that it's a hazing
Speaker 1: ritual or or a joke. Like it doesn't make sense
Speaker 1: that part, right, because eventually the person that gets hazed
Speaker 1: becomes the hazer, so they get let in on it all,
Speaker 1: and that's not what's happening, clearly. Then to say that
Speaker 1: Malmstrom was a an e mp, like if you don't
Speaker 1: think I'm gonna ask him about that kind of stuff, like,
Speaker 1: then you don't. Uh, I don't know if I want
Speaker 1: to get involved with this other stuff. It's not my place,
Speaker 1: like it's it's not so you know, and uh, we
Speaker 1: had to move the date because of all this nonsense
Speaker 1: and that upsets me because you know, uh, it's it
Speaker 1: just upsets me. But I want to do what's right.
Speaker 1: So like I'll run it by and I'll ask, like, hey,
Speaker 1: do you want to talk about this? But if he
Speaker 1: says no, I'm gonna respect that, Like you know, I'll ask,
Speaker 1: but if he doesn't want to, then I'll respect it.
Speaker 1: I I I'm there for for total disclosure, but vetted
Speaker 1: vetted commented, So there's this thing. So Mickwest is saying that.
Speaker 1: So Mick West did get like attacked by a lot
Speaker 1: of the believers about And I don't think we should
Speaker 1: be attacking, uh Mick, because Mick Mick's doing Mick Mick.
Speaker 1: This is what Mick does all all the time. This
Speaker 1: is what he does. This is Mick, right. He tries
Speaker 1: to find the prosaic explanation and and that's what he does.
Speaker 1: Like if we need that kind of stuff, and it,
Speaker 1: you know, UFO X can already feel not like an
Speaker 1: echo chamber. I don't want to call it an echo chamber,
Speaker 1: but you know, if you're in spaces with the same
Speaker 1: people every night, you're you're going to create the same
Speaker 1: conversations and the same you know, then there's going to
Speaker 1: be the narrative split. And that's where I get, like
Speaker 1: I said, I get a little dicey because if we're
Speaker 1: defending you know, defending Elizondo, like he's your you know,
Speaker 1: fantasy football team, and I say this maybe ad nauseum
Speaker 1: that like that's a problem. Right, if you're defending Steven Greer,
Speaker 1: like you know, like if you're staking your mortgage on it,
Speaker 1: like that kind is like, if that's the hill you
Speaker 1: want to die on, Like it just doesn't make sense
Speaker 1: to me. Like we should understand that one person isn't
Speaker 1: going to drive disclosure. It's going to be a group effort,
Speaker 1: and it's going to take you know, the general public.
Speaker 1: That's what these hearings are for. That's what you know.
Speaker 1: People often get upset with these hearings that they're not
Speaker 1: going as deep as they could be. And yeah, I agree, right,
Speaker 1: but it's also for the general public to get involved
Speaker 1: and to see that it's being discussed. And that's why
Speaker 1: each one is so monumental. You know, we had one
Speaker 1: in seventy years, and then we've had four in the
Speaker 1: last you know, five or six years. So the needle
Speaker 1: is moving, the stigma is shedding, the scientists are getting involved,
Speaker 1: white paper like everything that Carl Sagan was asking for. Right,
Speaker 1: with great I almost said, with great power comes great responsibility. Oh,
Speaker 1: it's been a day. It's also late, and I this
Speaker 1: is I gotta go soon. We'll be talking about this
Speaker 1: again tomorrow. But yes, with great power does come great responsibility. However, uh,
Speaker 1: I honestly can't remember the real saying right now, does
Speaker 1: anyone have it in the chat for me, no extraordinary proof.
Speaker 1: Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. I don't like that saying
Speaker 1: personally because evidence is evidence. But the claims and Mitch Yukaku,
Speaker 1: where's he gone? He like disappeared? Where the fuck that
Speaker 1: that guy go? He was in like every UFO thing,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden he just disappeared. And
Speaker 1: I haven't seen him since, but he's he said something
Speaker 1: that I always really liked, and that was the burden
Speaker 1: of proofs as has shifted to the non believer. We've
Speaker 1: got the videos, We've got the pictures. Right, it's getting
Speaker 1: a little bit more challenging with the videos and pictures
Speaker 1: with you know AI and you know the advent of
Speaker 1: of like really really good special effects at a very
Speaker 1: accessible uh and anyone can learn Blender and and anyone
Speaker 1: can learn how to do like it's like the Cousin
Speaker 1: Brothers for me, are a good example, like a bunch
Speaker 1: of their stuff, like come on, like they made a
Speaker 1: whole career off of it. And you know, don't hate
Speaker 1: the player. I hate the game, right, hate. I hate
Speaker 1: that every time I'm on UFO X or or on
Speaker 1: some Facebook group. Yes, I do sometimes peruse the Facebook
Speaker 1: groups because I'm apparently old. Someone said, but I I
Speaker 1: was using the Facebook or scroll in the Facebook group
Speaker 1: and it just it was really it gets really like toxic.
Speaker 1: And I came from the world of movies in Hollywood
Speaker 1: and that was toxic. This is a little bit less toxic,
Speaker 1: believe it or not, but it's it's still highly like
Speaker 1: people are at each other's throats. And you know, it's
Speaker 1: like the Star Wars fan base, like they can't ever
Speaker 1: seem to agree. And maybe that's just something, but I
Speaker 1: think that you and I I what I The point
Speaker 1: for what I'm saying is, I don't think the UFO
Speaker 1: community should be something like the Star Wars community because
Speaker 1: what we're dealing with is real. It's real, like we
Speaker 1: this should be the cutting edge. It's one of the
Speaker 1: most like basic fundamental questions as as an existentially capable being, right,
Speaker 1: what happens after death? Are we alone in the universe?
Speaker 1: These are things that we ponder because we're conscious. What
Speaker 1: is consciousness? Why can I sit here and have this
Speaker 1: conversation with you? Why can I reflect and make noises
Speaker 1: out of my mouth that are sent through digital waves
Speaker 1: to right now? One hundred and ninety six people total
Speaker 1: on Accent and YouTube that are able to hear me.
Speaker 1: You know, maybe with a little delay because the internet
Speaker 1: in the studio, we have to have the guy come out,
Speaker 1: so there could be a little delay. See I work
Speaker 1: that in, but pretty much instantaneously. Like look at the
Speaker 1: fact that we're here as a fucking miracle. The fact
Speaker 1: that we're not like on some like we didn't, we
Speaker 1: weren't just born into some apocalyptic fucking hellscape is because
Speaker 1: of love. It's because of compassion, It's because of structure,
Speaker 1: you know, religion and society and you know, love it,
Speaker 1: hate or love it. But I mean we got it
Speaker 1: pretty good. And you know, u pho disclosure. It shouldn't
Speaker 1: be like a movie community. It should be like, uh,
Speaker 1: you know something that's again And I think we are
Speaker 1: getting there finally, where real real experts like a VI
Speaker 1: Lobe like riswan Vik, like uh, Brian Keating, like Jesse
Speaker 1: might Well I don't know if Jesse's an expert so
Speaker 1: to say, but he's a genius when it comes to
Speaker 1: research and retaining information connecting dots. So yeah, Jesse, I
Speaker 1: mean I think Jesse does a great job. And yeah,
Speaker 1: so I mean, I think we are getting to a
Speaker 1: place that's that's awesome and it's amazing, but it's it's
Speaker 1: not coming without its challenges. And I think the digital
Speaker 1: age is really it's something that I mean, when you
Speaker 1: give everybody a voice, you give everybody a voice. So
Speaker 1: that's just the way the Internet's always going to be,
Speaker 1: I suppose, but it can be. And that's why I
Speaker 1: really advise people like the UFO community. It's intoxicating because
Speaker 1: again we are talking about like real real the implications
Speaker 1: are so outstandingly paradigm shifting, right, So I understand that,
Speaker 1: you know, when we talk about these things, it's it's
Speaker 1: it's easy to become enamored and to like this is
Speaker 1: the only topic that people just throw themselves into and
Speaker 1: they just never come up for air. But like, go
Speaker 1: on a hike, Like I know that the cliche like
Speaker 1: go touch grass, troll comment, but actually go touch grass.
Speaker 1: Like go out on a hike, go out with your friends,
Speaker 1: get away from UFOs for a while and go try
Speaker 1: to you know, maybe you'll see one and then you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know, something amazing will happen, but you have
Speaker 1: to have you have and and Chris BLOODSOE at the
Speaker 1: time got ridiculed for saying this. But if you're not looking,
Speaker 1: and if you're not willing to see, then you're not
Speaker 1: gonna see. And I do believe that. I do. I
Speaker 1: think that's why a lot of children see these things.
Speaker 1: I was a child, you said, you could say when
Speaker 1: I saw mine at ten or eleven years old. But
Speaker 1: we're in a new place. We are in uncharted territory
Speaker 1: right now as a species with AI and the advancement
Speaker 1: of AI and the scariness of the existential crisis that
Speaker 1: you know that it's like we're facing down the barrel
Speaker 1: of a gun, but we're also pointing the gun. That
Speaker 1: paints a weird picture to sketch that. But you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, We're about to create God, not we.
Speaker 1: I'm not about to create God like some other conscious being.
Speaker 1: It probably is AI already sentient. I don't know. Maybe anyway,
Speaker 1: I'm going off on tangents here. So what was the
Speaker 1: last thing I wanted to say was so vetted? Was
Speaker 1: bringing it an up. Mick West was saying the gold
Speaker 1: standard of science is not peer review, which really does
Speaker 1: fucking frustrate me because now so he says it is
Speaker 1: independent replication, and of course, of course, like that's part
Speaker 1: of the process, but why why come at it from
Speaker 1: that angle. It's a peer reviewed paper with really compelling
Speaker 1: data in it. It's everything that people have wanted for
Speaker 1: so long. And this one isn't like some crazy weird
Speaker 1: like you know, interdimensional galactic federation. Like this is literally
Speaker 1: you know, as cut and dry as it gets, accounting
Speaker 1: for error. And I think that's great, you know, I
Speaker 1: think the fact that this is even happening, that Scientiss
Speaker 1: certain involved, and we're getting to these points, these things
Speaker 1: that twenty years ago, if any one of these events happened,
Speaker 1: and we seem to be getting them on a weekly basises,
Speaker 1: these big whistleblower things or and again I don't I
Speaker 1: use that term loosely whistleblower, but these great witness accounts
Speaker 1: from the military and you know, private sector and contracting
Speaker 1: and special forces and you know, yeah, so on and
Speaker 1: so forth. We're getting these amazing accounts, some of them.
Speaker 1: Of course, take a grain, take what a grain of salt.
Speaker 1: These amazing events are happening. Any one of these things
Speaker 1: twenty five years ago would have been the highlight of
Speaker 1: the ten year period. And like so there is a
Speaker 1: lot happening. It's a lot to keep track of. But
Speaker 1: that's again, that's why we did the live show on
Speaker 1: Thursdays now and we'll we'll dive deeper into this. But
Speaker 1: I wanted to uh just watch like maybe like two
Speaker 1: three more minutes of the Actually no, I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't want to. I don't want to get copyright striked
Speaker 1: or anything like that, So I'll just probably end it there.
Speaker 1: I really, uh impromptu kind of threw this together. It
Speaker 1: was like, let's just do I want to get more
Speaker 1: engaging with the audience, the video audience especially, you know,
Speaker 1: I want to play with the camera switcher. Uh, admittedly
Speaker 1: I want to play with the camera switcher. But anyway,
Speaker 1: and that's why I bought, you know, the studio is
Speaker 1: to to do these things, and uh yeah, so I
Speaker 1: expect more of it the debunkers. I guess the moral
Speaker 1: of the whole I probably said that three times. The
Speaker 1: moral of this is we should be really happy that
Speaker 1: serious people are involved. And don't attack Mick West. Don't
Speaker 1: don't attack Mick for having the the Mick West like
Speaker 1: it's that's what Mick does. Don't get mad at him
Speaker 1: over it. Just like don't engage with them if you
Speaker 1: don't want to. But also don't engage with the other
Speaker 1: people that are you know, uh echo. You know, don't
Speaker 1: surround yourself with an echo chamber. And you know, if
Speaker 1: someone has opposing or conflicting you know, views, bounce ideas
Speaker 1: off of each other, right, you don't have to agree
Speaker 1: and and they get you know, no one's perfect, no one,
Speaker 1: no one's perfect. So you know, I liken it to
Speaker 1: the neighborhoods, the neighborhoods I grew up in. It was
Speaker 1: like open door policy. Right from the city I lived
Speaker 1: in a city to living in the suburbs. There was
Speaker 1: an open door policy in both of the areas. And
Speaker 1: that's without saying it takes a village came from. Now
Speaker 1: people don't know their neighbors. They hate their neighbors, you know,
Speaker 1: one as a Trump sign, one as of this sign.
Speaker 1: And like there's no kids outside playing trick or treating
Speaker 1: is like less every year, Like we are headed and
Speaker 1: there's so much isolation going on that it doesn't scare me.
Speaker 1: And and we can maybe we can get into this
Speaker 1: one day on the podcast or at the live show.
Speaker 1: But like the way things are going needs to change,
Speaker 1: like ready player one. We need to all like the
Speaker 1: I think the Internet needs to shut down on one
Speaker 1: day a week, like you can have access to basic
Speaker 1: functions like calling anything that would require like like an
Speaker 1: emergency like that. But we should be I think the
Speaker 1: Internet for the most part, like all everything should shut
Speaker 1: out for a day and everyone gets unplugged and we
Speaker 1: just societally we agree to that, like just unplugged. All right, guys,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for being here. Pretty good turnout
Speaker 1: for like no but no promotion. Thank you, guys. I
Speaker 1: appreciate it. And again We're gonna be live tomorrow at
Speaker 1: six thirty with my co host Corey Lindsay also is
Speaker 1: the editor of the of the podcast like the actual
Speaker 1: weekly podcast with a you know, a great guest that
Speaker 1: we have every single week. The episode coming up is
Speaker 1: a special one. Yeah, it's a special one, so definitely
Speaker 1: look out for it. We'll see you guys on the
Speaker 1: other side. And att
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