Was Jesus A Extraterrestrial? The Thiaoouba Prophecy (Ft. Samuel Chong)

0:38 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Total Disclosure. I'm your host, Ty Roberts,

0:44 Speaker 1: and today's episode is going to take us beyond conventional

0:49 Speaker 1: uphology and into one of the most controversial and thought

0:54 Speaker 1: provoking contact narratives ever put to paper, the Theubah by

1:01 Speaker 1: Michel de Marquees. My guest today is Samuel Chong, the

1:05 Speaker 1: translator responsible for bringing this text to a wider English

1:09 Speaker 1: speaking audience. His work has helped preserve and clarify a

1:14 Speaker 1: story that challenges nearly every assumption that we hold about

1:19 Speaker 1: human history, about consciousness, about religion, extraterrestrial contact, and our

1:25 Speaker 1: trajectory as a human civilization. For those unfamiliar that the

1:31 Speaker 1: Yuber Prophecy presents a radical account of humanity's origins, guided

1:36 Speaker 1: or perhaps even monitored by an advanced non human intelligence.

1:42 Speaker 1: It speaks to ancient civilizations, genetic intervention, moral law, planetary stewardship,

1:52 Speaker 1: and the consequences of collective ignorance. These are not the

1:56 Speaker 1: abstract ideas that you might think. Many of the warnings

1:59 Speaker 1: of lined in this book echo uncomfortably with the world

2:04 Speaker 1: that we are living in right now. In today's conversations,

2:07 Speaker 1: we're going to be exploring the core themes of the text,

2:10 Speaker 1: the challenges of translating such a work, and most importantly,

2:15 Speaker 1: the real world implications that we continue to see playing

2:19 Speaker 1: out to spiritual disconnection from environmental collapse, and the growing

2:25 Speaker 1: question of humanity's place in a much large, larger cosmic ecosystem.

2:31 Speaker 2: Samuel, Welcome to the studio in Boston.

2:35 Speaker 3: Oh, thanks for having me time.

2:37 Speaker 1: Yeah, we've had many many conversations, virtual conversations, and I

2:45 Speaker 1: think you and I have over the years, you know,

2:49 Speaker 1: garnered a really interesting friendship, and so I'm super excited

2:53 Speaker 1: to have you here today. And you know, before I

2:58 Speaker 1: get started, of course, I just want to let people

3:01 Speaker 1: know that Michelle d Marquy wrote this book that the

3:05 Speaker 1: Yuba Prophecy the Golden Planet, and it's a true report

3:09 Speaker 1: by the author who was physically abducted to another planet. Now,

3:13 Speaker 1: can you tell me a little bit about Michelle de Marquay,

3:18 Speaker 1: how this book was written and why what was it

3:20 Speaker 1: originally called?

3:21 Speaker 3: It was originally called Abduction to the Ninth Planet, right, yes, right.

3:26 Speaker 3: He wrote a book back in nineteen eighty nine after

3:29 Speaker 3: he encountered the ets who took him to their planet

3:33 Speaker 3: for nine days back in nineteen eighty seven, and then

3:37 Speaker 3: he took a few years to get it published. And

3:41 Speaker 3: this is the detailed accounts of what happened to him.

3:46 Speaker 3: He was just a regular French Australia who lived in

3:49 Speaker 3: Keynes at that time and then he did not really

3:53 Speaker 3: have a lot of education. He was a landscaper. He

3:57 Speaker 3: passed away in twenty eighteen. I met him twice and

4:01 Speaker 3: he seemed to me just like a regular person. But

4:05 Speaker 3: he did not know how to use technology. He did

4:07 Speaker 3: not know how to type on computer. He used his

4:11 Speaker 3: assistant to communicate or send emails to me. And in

4:16 Speaker 3: his later part of his years he lived in Vietnam.

4:20 Speaker 3: He's a very very interesting character.

4:23 Speaker 1: So he and I think that is something that is

4:28 Speaker 1: important to talk about, is the pre technological age that

4:33 Speaker 1: this story was told in where there wasn't the library.

4:37 Speaker 1: I mean, there wasn't the internet connection that connected the

4:40 Speaker 1: whole world. He wasn't able to research too much of

4:43 Speaker 1: other accounts, and it puts this position, puts this story

4:48 Speaker 1: in a unique position.

4:51 Speaker 3: Yes, as you read the book, you're going to learn

4:53 Speaker 3: about a lot of the things that can be proven

4:56 Speaker 3: after the book was published, and there are a lot

4:58 Speaker 3: of scientific advents after like nineteen eighty nine or nineteen

5:03 Speaker 3: eighty three after the book was published that actually proved

5:07 Speaker 3: a lot of things reading the book, specific details such

5:10 Speaker 3: as the antibacterial effect of blue light, and also the

5:15 Speaker 3: fact that there's a tomb of Jesus in Japan that

5:19 Speaker 3: most people nowadays don't know about it, but if you

5:21 Speaker 3: search on the internet you can find a lot of

5:23 Speaker 3: evidence people who describe what the tomb is like.

5:27 Speaker 2: Right.

5:29 Speaker 1: Well, to start off, I want to talk about what

5:32 Speaker 1: first drew you to the Deuber prophecy and why did

5:37 Speaker 1: you decide to visit Michelle de Marque twice in twenty

5:41 Speaker 1: sixteen and in twenty eighteen in person, and if you

5:45 Speaker 1: want to just speak up a.

5:46 Speaker 3: Little bit, yeah, pull that a little closer. What happened

5:50 Speaker 3: was that I was very interesting learning what the ETS

5:55 Speaker 3: have to say about us, especially about their technologies, because

6:00 Speaker 3: while I was in China, I had the opportunity to

6:04 Speaker 3: read a story in which an engineer or physicist was

6:08 Speaker 3: taken by ET to their spacecraft and was told that

6:13 Speaker 3: even though I instant led the three fundamental principles of

6:16 Speaker 3: modern physics, he made a small mistake that caused people

6:20 Speaker 3: to believe that we cannot go faster than the speed

6:22 Speaker 3: of light. I thought in my mind, if the ETS

6:25 Speaker 3: can come and visit us, they must have advanced technologies

6:29 Speaker 3: and knowledge. We can just learn from the ETS. So

6:32 Speaker 3: in my subconscious mind, I was always looking for books

6:35 Speaker 3: written by ET contactees. After I came to the US,

6:39 Speaker 3: I specifically searched for authors who claimed that they had

6:43 Speaker 3: encounters with extra terrestrials. And then on Amazon back in

6:47 Speaker 3: twenty fourteen, I found this book. It was selling very

6:51 Speaker 3: expensively back then, over one hundred dollars or so, so

6:54 Speaker 3: I actually check it out from our local library.

6:56 Speaker 2: Wo, yes, could that because there were just limited copies?

6:59 Speaker 3: Yeah, publishing It was not really published in the US.

7:03 Speaker 3: It's actually self published by him in Australia, so I

7:07 Speaker 3: had to borrow it from library through the interlibrary loan process.

7:10 Speaker 3: And then actually, to tell you the truth, after I

7:14 Speaker 3: read a book halfway through, I thought this science fiction

7:16 Speaker 3: because you fantastical and too miraculous to be true. But

7:22 Speaker 3: then as I read read into the book, especially the

7:25 Speaker 3: chapter was Christ. It actually gives specific accounts of what

7:29 Speaker 3: happened during the Biblical times as documented in the scriptures

7:34 Speaker 3: in the Old Testament and New Testament, a lot of

7:37 Speaker 3: details can be verified and proven, and actually it connects

7:41 Speaker 3: all the dots real religions.

7:43 Speaker 2: Yes, so what was before we go? Because I have

7:49 Speaker 2: so many questions about that? What when you.

7:54 Speaker 1: Okay, you're reading the book, You're like, this might be

7:56 Speaker 1: science fiction. What convinced you or you know, what was

8:02 Speaker 1: Michelle like in person, his personality, his presence, his convictions,

8:08 Speaker 1: and how did he react when you said that you

8:11 Speaker 1: wanted to share the message in Chinese?

8:13 Speaker 3: Well, first of all, the book has to convince me

8:17 Speaker 3: that it's not a science fiction. So what happened was

8:20 Speaker 3: that when I read the chapter Who was Christ, it

8:22 Speaker 3: like really connects the dots the questions I had about

8:26 Speaker 3: the Christianity religion, because you know, I had a lot

8:30 Speaker 3: of questions about Christianity. Why there are so many wars

8:34 Speaker 3: between all the religions, the Crusades and things like that,

8:38 Speaker 3: and why the pastors preach about something but they do

8:41 Speaker 3: other things, and why it doesn't really talk about reincarnation,

8:45 Speaker 3: which is a fact proven by scientific like theories or

8:52 Speaker 3: different hypnosis, passive progression. And also a lot of people

8:57 Speaker 3: in the world, like in China and Vietnam and India,

9:02 Speaker 3: they believe in incarnation, which is actually a true fact. I

9:05 Speaker 3: think most people should realize that. So uh. And also

9:10 Speaker 3: it gave up specific sounds on the tomb of Jesus

9:13 Speaker 3: in Japan, so that actually made other sense to me.

9:16 Speaker 3: That really convinced me that the book has to be true.

9:19 Speaker 3: And then in the postcript of the book is that

9:22 Speaker 3: there are far more incredible things than the author Michelle

9:26 Speaker 3: was told but not allowed to write about. That actually

9:29 Speaker 3: caused me to be extremely curious about what else he

9:32 Speaker 3: knew but couldn't write in the book. That's the reason

9:35 Speaker 3: of whe search.

9:36 Speaker 2: So you went there for the let's call it the scoop.

9:41 Speaker 2: You wanted to know, Okay, if that what's in this

9:43 Speaker 2: book is what's in the book? What what aren't you saying?

9:48 Speaker 3: Right right? I really wanted to know what other secrets

9:51 Speaker 3: he knew but couldn't write in the book because he

9:53 Speaker 3: said he was not allowed to write that in the book.

9:56 Speaker 3: Why because he told him instructor not to write.

10:01 Speaker 2: Is it because that humanity wasn't ready? Do you?

10:08 Speaker 3: I know? I know that no, but I think most

10:12 Speaker 3: people are not ready to know about it yet. And

10:16 Speaker 3: also I think it has a certain reason because the

10:19 Speaker 3: future really depends on our collective actions. So we can

10:24 Speaker 3: really change the future for the better, and we have

10:27 Speaker 3: to do the work on ourselves.

10:29 Speaker 2: That makes that makes a lot of sense. And so.

10:35 Speaker 1: To get I mean, this is going to be a question,

10:38 Speaker 1: a wild question to kind of get into. But what

10:43 Speaker 1: is the significance of Jesus is it?

10:46 Speaker 2: Was Jesus a real being? And was? I mean, I've

10:49 Speaker 2: read the book, so I know what it says.

10:50 Speaker 1: But for the people out there, don't a lot of

10:53 Speaker 1: people speculated things like, for instance, born of a virgent right,

11:01 Speaker 1: So what does that sound like?

11:03 Speaker 2: Uh?

11:04 Speaker 1: It sounds like IVF like in vita fertilization, right, immaculate

11:09 Speaker 1: and what they called, uh, some sort of you know

11:12 Speaker 1: miracle was a virgin being pregnant, right and being impregnated

11:15 Speaker 1: by God or the divine So you know, was was

11:21 Speaker 1: Jesus an alien?

11:23 Speaker 3: Christ was an alien? But Jesus Christ is an alien? Yes,

11:26 Speaker 3: But Jesus was actually born out of the virgin Mary,

11:30 Speaker 3: from the embryo implanted by the eties or the angels

11:34 Speaker 3: what we would call the angels in the Bible. They

11:37 Speaker 3: had Jesus born that way just to catch people's attention

11:41 Speaker 3: and to fulfill the prophecies. And so that's why when

11:45 Speaker 3: you read the Bible, you don't see Jesus performing any

11:48 Speaker 3: miracles before the age of thirty, before he began preaching.

11:53 Speaker 3: This is because when the astral body of someone goes

11:57 Speaker 3: into the embryo, it has to pass through what the

12:01 Speaker 3: ancient Nagos would call the river of oblivion forgetting all

12:05 Speaker 3: the knowledge to perform miracles. This is right, Yes, so

12:10 Speaker 3: that Jesus actually went to India, and this is why

12:12 Speaker 3: some people say that Jesus went to India, and that's

12:15 Speaker 3: the Jesus who died in Japan.

12:17 Speaker 2: But Christ is a different figure, a different entity house

12:22 Speaker 2: So so Jesus in Christ are.

12:26 Speaker 3: Two different entities. One could perform miracles and one couldn't.

12:30 Speaker 3: The one who died on the cross and then resurrected

12:35 Speaker 3: was the one who performed the miracles, who preached about

12:38 Speaker 3: spirituality and love. And that's the one I would call

12:42 Speaker 3: Christ who is actually on importent et right.

12:47 Speaker 1: And if I'm not mistaken, Christ is a word that

12:52 Speaker 1: is a derivative of the is it the Greek word christos?

12:57 Speaker 3: Yeah, and.

13:00 Speaker 2: Angel means messenger. Yes, So if the if.

13:07 Speaker 1: And again, if we're looking at it through a religious lens.

13:11 Speaker 1: The messengers came down to earth, and the ultimate message

13:19 Speaker 1: seems to be Christ right, the the memor right, the

13:24 Speaker 1: hybridization of the divine and human, something that will bring

13:29 Speaker 1: the worlds together to a degree.

13:32 Speaker 3: So there are two different concepts. Why is God the

13:35 Speaker 3: Creator which is a pure spirit? Most Catholics nowadays to

13:40 Speaker 3: believe that the Creator or God does not have a face.

13:45 Speaker 3: That's true because it's a pure spirit. It created everything,

13:49 Speaker 3: including the ets and human beings on earth. So that's

13:53 Speaker 3: the creator who doesn't have a face. But in the

13:56 Speaker 3: Bible we read about the Jehovah. Those are actually the

14:01 Speaker 3: ets or the people who have been guiding over us

14:04 Speaker 3: throughout history. If you read the Bible, you're going to

14:07 Speaker 3: learn about like the Party of the Sea for most

14:10 Speaker 3: is during Exodus, the distractions of the two CITs. So

14:14 Speaker 3: then Gomorrah and if you really read into that, you're

14:18 Speaker 3: going to discover those are could be the extra terresduals

14:22 Speaker 3: who help the Hebrews.

14:23 Speaker 2: Right and right.

14:25 Speaker 3: Yes, so this is actually what the book talks about.

14:28 Speaker 3: That made perfect sense.

14:31 Speaker 2: And I mean the implications of that alone, I could

14:34 Speaker 2: spend three hours on.

14:37 Speaker 3: So and it.

14:40 Speaker 1: From from your perspective from everything that you've gathered from

14:44 Speaker 1: this book and from your time looking into all this stuff.

14:49 Speaker 1: What are ancestors called.

14:52 Speaker 2: God or not?

14:53 Speaker 1: You know, not capital g God, but like the gods

14:57 Speaker 1: and what today we look up and we ay alien

15:01 Speaker 1: or non human intelligence? Are we talking about the same thing?

15:06 Speaker 3: No, we are not talking about the same thing. God

15:09 Speaker 3: is a creator of everything. It's a pure spirit that

15:12 Speaker 3: created all the stars, the planets, animals, planets, people on Earth,

15:18 Speaker 3: as well as extra terridrios. But extra Terdios are actually

15:22 Speaker 3: other human intelligence, some different planets, and there are different

15:26 Speaker 3: kinds of etis in the universe. Some are very advanced

15:31 Speaker 3: and some are not so advanced, like the ones that

15:33 Speaker 3: crashed on Earth the Roswell incident and in which we

15:39 Speaker 3: recovered some of the vehicles of the etis. Like because

15:43 Speaker 3: they crashed, that indicates or give some people hints that

15:48 Speaker 3: their technologies are not that advanced. They have faults, they

15:52 Speaker 3: have issues that need to resolve. But they are also

15:55 Speaker 3: etis who spacecraft did not and will never crash on

15:59 Speaker 3: Earth like the Theuvens of Jehoven's. They are far more

16:03 Speaker 3: advanced than the grace of the Roswell incident, Right, So

16:08 Speaker 3: people need to know that there are different species of

16:10 Speaker 3: ETS in the universe.

16:12 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, even doctor Eric Davis recently in that

16:16 Speaker 1: congressional setting had kind of told people in that forum

16:22 Speaker 1: that there are multiple civilizations visiting Earth. And you know,

16:28 Speaker 1: it sounds like you agree with that statement.

16:30 Speaker 3: I definitely agree. And I think personally we should learn

16:33 Speaker 3: from the masters from the ets who spacecraft will never

16:37 Speaker 3: crash on Earth. Then not then will never crash on Earth.

16:40 Speaker 3: If we just reverse engineered the ones that crash on Earth,

16:44 Speaker 3: that's a good step. But I would go directly to

16:47 Speaker 3: the masters.

16:49 Speaker 1: So yeah, right, And well, there is this story that

16:52 Speaker 1: I find interesting, and it was the fact that there

16:56 Speaker 1: were two meetings with extra terrestrial civilizations with with Eisenhower.

17:04 Speaker 1: And you know, I don't know how true this is,

17:06 Speaker 1: but it's in the UFO lore if you will, that

17:10 Speaker 1: he met with a very advanced species that said, you

17:15 Speaker 1: need to get rid of your nukes, you need to

17:18 Speaker 1: get rid of you know this, this this warring mentality,

17:23 Speaker 1: and we will help you, we will give you technology.

17:26 Speaker 1: And then they were they were told, you know, think

17:29 Speaker 1: about it, right, and then they left. This is the

17:31 Speaker 1: Halloman landing at the Hallman Air Force Base. And then

17:36 Speaker 1: there was another time where in Palm Springs he went missing.

17:41 Speaker 1: The president went missing, the I believe the local paper

17:45 Speaker 1: even wrote about how he was dying, like he died.

17:50 Speaker 1: And in that meeting he was said to have met

17:52 Speaker 1: with the Grays, who said, you don't have to get

17:56 Speaker 1: rid of the nukes, we'll just give you the technology.

17:58 Speaker 1: And he went with them because he didn't want to

18:03 Speaker 1: get rid of his the nuclear arsenal, or he didn't

18:05 Speaker 1: want to because he didn't think that, you know, if

18:08 Speaker 1: the United States got rid of their nukes, Russia wasn't

18:10 Speaker 1: going to get rid of theirs, right, So he went

18:13 Speaker 1: with the Gray, the Grays proposition instead of the other proposition.

18:17 Speaker 1: So we had a fork in the road, and we

18:20 Speaker 1: chose ignorance for technology, for technological advancement rather than ascension,

18:26 Speaker 1: and you know, to to kind of evolve past this

18:30 Speaker 1: idea of war and killing each other. So I find

18:34 Speaker 1: that to be an interesting an interesting parallel to this.

18:40 Speaker 3: Right that kind of shows that the Graves are not

18:43 Speaker 3: that spiritually advanced compared to the.

18:45 Speaker 2: Other species of the exactly. Yes, So.

18:50 Speaker 1: The book I want to kind of get right into it.

18:53 Speaker 1: Of course, the book recounts and for anyone who hasn't, please,

18:58 Speaker 1: you know, get out there, get a and we'll tell

19:00 Speaker 1: you how to get it. Get a copy in the

19:03 Speaker 1: Theober Prophecy, because I think again it's a very very

19:06 Speaker 1: good Uh.

19:07 Speaker 2: It's a good book too if you're a religious person.

19:10 Speaker 2: It gives you a lot of context.

19:11 Speaker 1: So anyway, the book recounts Michelle being taken, Yes, I

19:16 Speaker 1: want to say that word taken to an advanced planet

19:20 Speaker 1: by being called the Theubans. What do you think is

19:24 Speaker 1: the biggest misunderstanding people have about this encounter.

19:30 Speaker 3: Well, it's a real encounter in which he was physically

19:34 Speaker 3: taken to another planet, not the spiritually, not the psychologically,

19:40 Speaker 3: not astray, not astrally. He did not have an illusion.

19:43 Speaker 3: He was physically gone for ten days. It is proven

19:47 Speaker 3: by his family members, his son that I'm still in

19:50 Speaker 3: contact with, and also proven by his wife who actually

19:54 Speaker 3: saw him disappear for about ten days or so. So

19:58 Speaker 3: so his wife was actually quite worried about and having

20:01 Speaker 3: gone for ten days, and she thought that he was

20:05 Speaker 3: heaving an affair with another woman. And so it's actually

20:09 Speaker 3: caused a married issue. And this is one of the

20:13 Speaker 3: reasons did the worse after he came back. Even though

20:16 Speaker 3: he left a note to his wife, his wife still

20:20 Speaker 3: does not believe him.

20:22 Speaker 1: Wow, well that's that's very I mean, you know the

20:25 Speaker 1: story of Bobazaar, right, yeah, so same thing, right, different

20:30 Speaker 1: but same He he would disappear at weird hours of

20:33 Speaker 1: the night because you know, they would call him in

20:36 Speaker 1: to go to Area fifty one, and his wife thought

20:38 Speaker 1: he was having an affair, so she had an affair.

20:42 Speaker 1: And then and then he ends up getting kicked out

20:44 Speaker 1: of the program because they're tapping his phones and they

20:47 Speaker 1: find out that his wife is having an affair and

20:49 Speaker 1: they go, oh, shoot, this guy is not going to

20:52 Speaker 1: be stable.

20:53 Speaker 2: His family life is in rubble. You know, we we

20:57 Speaker 2: can't let him in.

20:57 Speaker 1: So I find that's an interesting parent, so talk to

21:02 Speaker 1: me about Okay, So his wife and his son, they

21:07 Speaker 1: they testify to the fact that he was gone for

21:11 Speaker 1: ten days. Did they file any police report?

21:14 Speaker 3: No, they did not, because he left a note to

21:16 Speaker 3: his wife saying that he will be gone for ten

21:19 Speaker 3: days or so and there's absolutely no need to worry

21:21 Speaker 3: about him. This is the reason she did not file

21:24 Speaker 3: a police report.

21:25 Speaker 2: So so he had the time to write a note.

21:30 Speaker 3: He woke up suddenly in the middle of the night,

21:34 Speaker 3: and then he did not know why, but he left

21:36 Speaker 3: a note because the ets actually had him write a note.

21:40 Speaker 3: And then he walked outside of his house to the

21:43 Speaker 3: yard and then he was lifted up to the middle

21:45 Speaker 3: of the air.

21:46 Speaker 4: WHOA wow, So what happens next? I mean, I'm fascinated.

21:52 Speaker 4: And then he encountered the very tall niotian footthall beautiful

21:56 Speaker 4: et B who told him that they were going to

21:59 Speaker 4: have a trip together and then he will be enjoying

22:02 Speaker 4: the trip. And then the et is a female or

22:06 Speaker 4: a raphadite. She took him inside of their spacecraft and

22:11 Speaker 4: then they went through the cleansing process in which they

22:17 Speaker 4: used the yellow light and blue light to disinfect him.

22:21 Speaker 3: And this is actually proven a hyber medical school that

22:25 Speaker 3: the blue light right here in Boston. Yeah, in Boston,

22:28 Speaker 3: blue light has an effect here and have very effects.

22:31 Speaker 3: There's a pure reviewed paper on this.

22:33 Speaker 2: And he wrote about this already.

22:35 Speaker 3: He wrote about this back in nineteen eight nine.

22:37 Speaker 1: A landscaper in the middle of nowhere, that's right, wrote

22:41 Speaker 1: about how he was disinfected using blue light. And yes, okay,

22:47 Speaker 1: continue because that that that's crazy.

22:49 Speaker 2: By I want to keep pointing out.

22:51 Speaker 1: The facts that Remember, this is a time without the

22:55 Speaker 1: internet nothing.

22:57 Speaker 2: You couldn't just call.

23:00 Speaker 1: In the United States and you know, figure out all

23:03 Speaker 1: the different scientific qualities that would need to make the

23:07 Speaker 1: story provable or or.

23:12 Speaker 2: How do you say, like it would check out, you know,

23:17 Speaker 2: and and it wouldn't check out for now, but in

23:20 Speaker 2: the future when they would find these things out. Continue,

23:23 Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

23:23 Speaker 3: And then they also used another i would say drug

23:29 Speaker 3: to really cleanse him. But they had to do that well,

23:34 Speaker 3: his astrobody leaves us his physical body. So during this

23:39 Speaker 3: cleansing process, he had an astro travel experience which he

23:43 Speaker 3: was able to observe what it did in their spacecraft

23:47 Speaker 3: while his astrobody left his physical body. So a lot

23:51 Speaker 3: of people have this kind of experienced auto body experience,

23:55 Speaker 3: and he describes it in the book. This is something

23:58 Speaker 3: that I find to be very interesting as well. And

24:00 Speaker 3: then he's asked about it came back to his physical body,

24:04 Speaker 3: and then they everything went back to normal, and then

24:08 Speaker 3: they started to tell him about the history of Earth

24:12 Speaker 3: where all the different main kinds or different people came from. Originally,

24:17 Speaker 3: one of the very interesting things I find just recently

24:21 Speaker 3: a few weeks ago is about the Jewish people, because

24:25 Speaker 3: if you really know about this, if you do research,

24:29 Speaker 3: you're going to find out that even though Jewish people

24:33 Speaker 3: only account for about pointy two percent of worldwide population,

24:37 Speaker 3: all the noble press winners are Jewish, and Jewish people

24:41 Speaker 3: excel in different fields that they go into, and don't.

24:44 Speaker 2: Worry about that.

24:46 Speaker 3: About that, and then the ets told him about all

24:51 Speaker 3: the different history of different people, including the Blacks, Yellows,

24:57 Speaker 3: the Caucasians, the ancestors of the Polynesians, and the Hebrews.

25:02 Speaker 2: When you say yellow, I just gotta ask Asian, Asian yes, okay, thanks,

25:08 Speaker 2: Japanese age yes. So this is in the payment the

25:12 Speaker 2: Simpsons or something. I'm just kidding.

25:16 Speaker 3: And that logically and reasonably explains why Jewish people excel

25:21 Speaker 3: in different fields that they go into and why they

25:24 Speaker 3: were the chosen people as described in the Old Testaments

25:28 Speaker 3: the Bible. Yes, very logically. So if you really do

25:33 Speaker 3: a lot of reasons, you're going to find the Ashkenazi

25:35 Speaker 3: Jews have five years longer longevity than the average non

25:41 Speaker 3: Jewish people. So if you read the Old Tests the Bible,

25:45 Speaker 3: you're going to see that the people in the past,

25:48 Speaker 3: they used to live eight hundred years or nine hundred years,

25:51 Speaker 3: and there's a reason for that, very logical reason, and

25:55 Speaker 3: I would employ or encourage the audience to read the

25:58 Speaker 3: book to learn about the reason.

26:00 Speaker 2: So you're saying human beings lived for up to night,

26:06 Speaker 2: you know, nine hundred something years. This could specifically Hebrews,

26:11 Speaker 2: specifically the Hebrews. I find that interesting.

26:14 Speaker 1: I know you say specifically Hebrew, but you ever heard

26:16 Speaker 1: of something the King's List, Egyptian King's list, the King's

26:22 Speaker 1: list of all the pharaohs, or the pharaohs list, and

26:25 Speaker 1: they you know, this person ruled for fifteen hundred years.

26:29 Speaker 1: So I'm just wondering if something like that is actually possible.

26:34 Speaker 3: Well, I think when a person is highly spiritual and

26:39 Speaker 3: you know they'y very highly advanced the environment or a

26:44 Speaker 3: highly advanced planet, a person can have a longevity that

26:51 Speaker 3: can last for thousands of years. Because the eaties from

26:54 Speaker 3: Theuba from this book, but the book talks about they

26:57 Speaker 3: don't die at all because they can generate and regenerate

27:01 Speaker 3: their cells and tissues, so they don't die. And they're

27:05 Speaker 3: fever young looking people, so they are likenodic looking. They

27:10 Speaker 3: can perform all the miracles as performed by Christ. They

27:14 Speaker 3: can communicate through telepathy, they can limit it, they can

27:17 Speaker 3: materialize objects, and they can do everything that we can imagine,

27:21 Speaker 3: like healing all the different diseases. So they're they're highly

27:26 Speaker 3: advanced beings. And if someone is highly spiritual, uh, you know,

27:30 Speaker 3: very highly advanced environment or a very advanced planet, that

27:35 Speaker 3: person wouldn't wouldn't die.

27:37 Speaker 2: Wow.

27:39 Speaker 1: So the key to immortality is not necessarily medical in

27:46 Speaker 1: the in the in the modern sense medical, but it's

27:49 Speaker 1: more spiritual and in inside.

27:53 Speaker 2: That's very that that's.

27:56 Speaker 3: Crazy, that's interesting to a lot of ladies. Should keep

28:00 Speaker 3: that in mind.

28:01 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, right right.

28:04 Speaker 1: So obviously this book challenges traditional history, Yes, from the

28:08 Speaker 1: Great Pyramids purpose to the real origin of Jesus and Moses.

28:12 Speaker 1: Like you've talked about, what aspect of ancient history in

28:16 Speaker 1: the book has most dramatically shifted that your worldview will.

28:21 Speaker 3: Since I was young, I was those questions or asking

28:25 Speaker 3: about how the pyramid was built for the purpose and

28:28 Speaker 3: what about the statues on Eastern Island and they are

28:32 Speaker 3: actually the remnants the remains of the ancient civilizations. And

28:36 Speaker 3: to credit the Graham Hancock, Yes, we had several great

28:41 Speaker 3: recess of ancient civilizations in the history of Earth of mankind,

28:47 Speaker 3: and that this book actually talks about the two great

28:50 Speaker 3: recests in the past. We O came from different planets,

28:54 Speaker 3: originally the Blacks and Yellow's, the Asians and the Caucasians.

29:00 Speaker 3: The Well originally came from different planets. Because if you

29:04 Speaker 3: really know about geology or astronomy, you're going to realize

29:10 Speaker 3: that planets have their longevity. Right, So what happens the

29:14 Speaker 3: Well planet When the core of the planet cools down,

29:18 Speaker 3: it will no longer generate the magnetic field that captures

29:25 Speaker 3: the Amazon's.

29:26 Speaker 1: Atmosphere, which will then turn a planet into like a marsh,

29:30 Speaker 1: like a desert, completely uninhabitable.

29:33 Speaker 3: Yes, because Mars is a dead planet ready the core

29:36 Speaker 3: has cooled down. The Earth still has a hot core

29:39 Speaker 3: which is rotating consistent wow, generating the magnetic field.

29:44 Speaker 2: So he learns he's learning all of this during this visit.

29:50 Speaker 2: I want to go obviously, I just spun off a

29:53 Speaker 2: little bit.

29:53 Speaker 1: But you're at they're telling him all this stuff, right,

29:58 Speaker 1: you said their Nordic look, So those are the Nordic

30:01 Speaker 1: looking beings.

30:02 Speaker 3: Yes, but they're hermapetized, meaning that they have both male

30:05 Speaker 3: and female sexual organs. So they're gender like yah.

30:11 Speaker 2: Meaning meaning meaning can they? Does that mean that they

30:17 Speaker 2: can produce offspring by themselves?

30:20 Speaker 3: That's right, They don't need a partner or a mate.

30:22 Speaker 2: Okay, well honestly that makes sense.

30:25 Speaker 1: It makes kind of sense, right, But okay, so continue

30:31 Speaker 1: with what he continued with his experience on the Tuba.

30:36 Speaker 1: I want to hear more. So they're telling these things,

30:38 Speaker 1: what what is the architecture he's seeing? What are the

30:41 Speaker 1: colors that he's seeing? Like, what does the planet look like?

30:45 Speaker 3: The planet looks like a golden planet, because as he

30:50 Speaker 3: approached the planet, he saw golden myst surrounding the entire planet,

30:55 Speaker 3: very beautiful looking, and once he landed on the planet,

30:58 Speaker 3: there are two things that are different from Earth. When

31:02 Speaker 3: is the gravity of the planet, which is much lighter

31:05 Speaker 3: than let that up Earth, And the other is the

31:09 Speaker 3: beautiful colors, like very strong colors that actually had drunken him,

31:16 Speaker 3: and he had to wear a facial mask like sunglasses

31:20 Speaker 3: to future at the strong colors in order to be

31:23 Speaker 3: able to remain on the planet.

31:26 Speaker 1: Right, So similar to like you know something an astronaut

31:30 Speaker 1: would have to wear, like like in that same vein

31:34 Speaker 1: like to protect themselves, but not from the ox.

31:36 Speaker 2: Not not from that, but from the amount of.

31:40 Speaker 1: Light that was coming in in the different colors that

31:43 Speaker 1: maybe aren't our on our spectrum. Wow, that is such

31:48 Speaker 1: an intricate detail. And the golden mist around the planet.

31:54 Speaker 1: I've heard that before in the sense like the Anaki, right,

31:59 Speaker 1: how they needed gold to fix their atmosphere. Is this

32:03 Speaker 1: something that's true?

32:06 Speaker 3: Well, to the Fubans, they wouldn't need any metals or

32:09 Speaker 3: gold because they can generate materials or objects using their

32:16 Speaker 3: mind or their will, because they're just as powerful as

32:19 Speaker 3: a christ. Because they have the ability to do so,

32:23 Speaker 3: they wouldn't need any raw materials or minerals from other planets.

32:27 Speaker 2: Out of nothing. They can create diamond gold from energy

32:34 Speaker 2: into matter.

32:37 Speaker 1: Yes, okay, so what is Do they have structures on

32:44 Speaker 1: this planet like cities?

32:46 Speaker 2: What does this look like?

32:48 Speaker 3: Yes, they have what they would call docals, the living

32:53 Speaker 3: or the dwellings that they live in. They they're very

32:56 Speaker 3: unique structures. They look like egg shape or have egg

33:00 Speaker 3: shaped structures. When people are outside, they cannot look inside,

33:05 Speaker 3: but when they're inside they can see all side. So

33:08 Speaker 3: it's the one side transparent. It's just like the glass,

33:12 Speaker 3: that one side glass.

33:13 Speaker 2: The one the like interrogation glass and that yeah, the

33:17 Speaker 2: one way mirrors. That's bizarre.

33:21 Speaker 1: And as far as vehicles would go, are they using

33:27 Speaker 1: these these craft like are they do?

33:30 Speaker 2: They all have one?

33:31 Speaker 3: Uh, they don't use the cars or planes because they

33:35 Speaker 3: can fly. You seeing a very small device that can

33:39 Speaker 3: neutralize gravity and you're seeing a force field to move

33:43 Speaker 3: them around traveling at the two or three hundred miles

33:46 Speaker 3: per hour. So they don't have a big vehicle so

33:50 Speaker 3: or carriers. They just have a small device that they

33:53 Speaker 3: carry on their hand and also on their waist. And

33:58 Speaker 3: this is what Michelle actually, Yeah, their experience, you seem

34:01 Speaker 3: to travel on their planet. It's a very beautiful scenario

34:07 Speaker 3: and they're enlightening experience for him. So so he really

34:11 Speaker 3: did them want to come back after night?

34:14 Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to either.

34:16 Speaker 1: We would want to come back here after you see

34:18 Speaker 1: a planet of gold a golden planet is So that's

34:24 Speaker 1: that's I mean, Okay, so now he comes back right,

34:30 Speaker 1: let's because you've kind of showed told us what they

34:34 Speaker 1: look like, how they are. They're speaking in this telepathic nature,

34:40 Speaker 1: so it's just translating immediately to him.

34:44 Speaker 3: Well, according to them, they can have two different methods

34:49 Speaker 3: of communication. When it's like we are speaking right now

34:54 Speaker 3: through voice or sound, uh, in which well, the ETS

34:59 Speaker 3: they can speak the different languages because they understand how

35:04 Speaker 3: to do that. They can actually download the knowledge to

35:07 Speaker 3: speak different languages from each other. And the other way

35:11 Speaker 3: is through telepathic communications. And in telepathic communications it doesn't

35:17 Speaker 3: really exist any language barrier because even if a person

35:23 Speaker 3: from Earth communicating with a person from a different planet,

35:27 Speaker 3: if they communicate telepathically, they wouldn't need a translator or

35:31 Speaker 3: interpreter at.

35:32 Speaker 2: All, right, because it would just it would it would essentially,

35:36 Speaker 2: and you're just like entanglement, right the if I wanted

35:42 Speaker 2: to talk to you as a telepath right in telepathic nature,

35:46 Speaker 2: this is the way I would assume it.

35:48 Speaker 1: Worked, would be our brains would become entangled. And so

35:52 Speaker 1: anything you knew, I would know, and anything I know

35:55 Speaker 1: you would know. And then whether you have access to

35:58 Speaker 1: that is a different story, right, you know, But somewhere

36:04 Speaker 1: it just it's an auto translate.

36:07 Speaker 3: And the ETS could tap into Michelle's mind at any time,

36:11 Speaker 3: and Michelle actually wrote in the book that he sometimes

36:14 Speaker 3: felt offended or his privacy invaded invaded, Yes, and then

36:19 Speaker 3: the ets promised him that they will not do that

36:23 Speaker 3: unless when it is absolutely necessary.

36:27 Speaker 2: I gotta ask, obviously, Jesus, right, I can see it,

36:31 Speaker 2: I can understand, But why Michelle, Why now?

36:38 Speaker 3: Well?

36:38 Speaker 2: Why now? Why? Then?

36:40 Speaker 3: Well, Michelle de Marchay was someone who had eighty past

36:47 Speaker 3: lives and this is something that's also written the book,

36:51 Speaker 3: which is reincarnation.

36:53 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, so I guess that has to be in there, right,

36:56 Speaker 2: this idea of past lives.

36:57 Speaker 3: Yes, a concept that was remove moved from the Bible,

37:02 Speaker 3: but by the Council of Nicea and different council meetings,

37:06 Speaker 3: they kind of gradually removed certain powers of the ancient scriptures.

37:11 Speaker 1: But these are just to ask if we could ever

37:14 Speaker 1: get access to like the Vatican archives, do you think

37:17 Speaker 1: the information would be there?

37:19 Speaker 3: I believe so, okay, interesting, keep going. And actually the

37:22 Speaker 3: early Christians they believed dur incarnation.

37:24 Speaker 2: So the original cover up for everyone's record came from

37:28 Speaker 2: the Church.

37:29 Speaker 3: Yes, that's right. Michelle was chosen for I think three reasons,

37:35 Speaker 3: as he wrote in the book. One is that he

37:38 Speaker 3: was a man of action, so he took actions immediately

37:41 Speaker 3: because his purpose was to have this kind of experience

37:45 Speaker 3: and read a book to warn people on Earth about

37:48 Speaker 3: the dangers, the real dangerous on Earth. And the second

37:52 Speaker 3: reason was that he was a man that did not

37:56 Speaker 3: have any preconceived notions or presuppositions they took like a

38:01 Speaker 3: physicist or euthologist. Then they would be afraid that the

38:05 Speaker 3: authologies would have taken their own ideas or ideologies, seemed

38:10 Speaker 3: the writing.

38:11 Speaker 2: The book there, like you said, their preconceived notion or

38:16 Speaker 2: their their ideas would influence the actual message when it

38:23 Speaker 2: came time to translate it. Whereas Michelle was more like

38:27 Speaker 2: matter of fact.

38:28 Speaker 3: Yes, like a blank piece of paper to write.

38:32 Speaker 2: I was that's weird. I was literally just about to say,

38:36 Speaker 2: almost like a blank sheet, yes, but that is my God.

38:42 Speaker 3: And the third reason is that he had eighty past

38:45 Speaker 3: lives already and that was his eighty first life on Earth.

38:49 Speaker 3: And people like him, like Soko what they would call him,

38:53 Speaker 3: Souko can survive for nine days on their planet.

38:56 Speaker 2: What does that mean?

38:57 Speaker 3: That means that he had experienced eighty past lives.

38:59 Speaker 2: So soco means specifically, you've eighty pass lives.

39:05 Speaker 3: Yes, he had. He was having his eighty first lifetime

39:09 Speaker 3: on Earth. So he was like old soul and who

39:13 Speaker 3: can survive for nineties on their planet. So this is

39:17 Speaker 3: why they want to take him, so he could survive

39:21 Speaker 3: for ninety's on the planet.

39:23 Speaker 2: So he couldn't stay longer.

39:25 Speaker 3: He couldn't say stay longer.

39:27 Speaker 2: But if someone else that's another interesting detail.

39:29 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, otherwise he would have died if he stayed.

39:34 Speaker 1: Exposure to a yeah too long in another environ I

39:37 Speaker 1: get that. Scientifically, all these details are so intricately complex.

39:44 Speaker 3: Yes, And the way that they explained about reincarnation and

39:48 Speaker 3: the process how we purify our soul to move up

39:53 Speaker 3: the letter to be more spiritual is also very complicated.

39:58 Speaker 3: And but but they actually explains all of the things

40:01 Speaker 3: that Christians may ask. What if Hitler's Hitler out of

40:06 Speaker 3: Hitler regretted and believed in Jesus before just read before

40:11 Speaker 3: he died, would he go to heaven? And at the

40:14 Speaker 3: end they no, he would not because he has goes

40:17 Speaker 3: through this kind of self reflection and feeling all the

40:21 Speaker 3: pains of the people he killed, and then to learn

40:24 Speaker 3: the mistakes he made in his life and to gradually

40:29 Speaker 3: grow spiritually and eventually go to perfection.

40:33 Speaker 1: So if if what what is being said here is true, Jesus,

40:42 Speaker 1: I'm reincarnation.

40:44 Speaker 2: Hitler is either in the in the between state right now,

40:51 Speaker 2: doing a lot of reflection because time, I would assume

40:54 Speaker 2: works differently in ethereal, like an ethereal realm, right this

40:58 Speaker 2: like this limb though or.

41:02 Speaker 1: Void between between the physical world where like where our

41:08 Speaker 1: consciousness originates from the source right the ether. He's either

41:13 Speaker 1: there doing a lot of reflection or he's been reborn

41:17 Speaker 1: and he's out there somewhere right now. He just doesn't

41:20 Speaker 1: know it and we don't know it right right, it's

41:22 Speaker 1: really difficult for anyone to know. But he has to

41:25 Speaker 1: go through the stufferings of the people he killed in

41:29 Speaker 1: order to progress.

41:31 Speaker 2: Yeah, I figure it will take him a long time

41:34 Speaker 2: for reflection, yes, right, so he might not come back

41:37 Speaker 2: to another body. If because I reincarnation is something I

41:40 Speaker 2: heavily do believe in, it makes way more sense to me.

41:44 Speaker 2: Because the universe, the world from a micro to a

41:48 Speaker 2: macro level, the one. There's a lot of things the

41:50 Speaker 2: universe isn't, and one thing it isn't it's not wasteful,

41:56 Speaker 2: right right, life seems to be.

42:00 Speaker 1: Special, it's unique. The spark that's inside of you, spark

42:04 Speaker 1: that's inside of me. I can see your spark, right,

42:07 Speaker 1: I can feel it.

42:08 Speaker 2: But when I saw my mother die, I watched that

42:11 Speaker 2: spark go away, right, that essence that made her her

42:18 Speaker 2: went away right before my eyes, and I watched it

42:21 Speaker 2: as an orb will literally leave the room, right. And

42:26 Speaker 2: then I look back.

42:28 Speaker 1: Instead of seeing what I see when I look at

42:30 Speaker 1: you as a human spark, it was just like an

42:34 Speaker 1: empty vessel. And you know that, right, like people when

42:38 Speaker 1: they see a dead person, and I know it sounds grim,

42:41 Speaker 1: but you know that they're not in there anymore.

42:44 Speaker 3: Right. We all have a spark of divinity, and we

42:47 Speaker 3: use our physical body as a toe to learn spiritual lessons.

42:51 Speaker 2: To interact with the physical world, right, to experience to Yeah,

42:56 Speaker 2: so that and that's something I'm The more I the

43:01 Speaker 2: more people I talk to, the more I hear that's

43:03 Speaker 2: the route that I'm going down. So Michelle comes back

43:08 Speaker 2: the tenth day or is it the ninth day? He

43:11 Speaker 2: comes back the tenth day? The tenth day he returns, Yes,

43:16 Speaker 2: to Earth? Yes, what happens from there?

43:20 Speaker 3: So he really had a hard time explaining what happened

43:27 Speaker 3: to him. And then the first thing he did was

43:30 Speaker 3: he slept for about and then after his family members

43:37 Speaker 3: wondered like where he had been, like where he visited,

43:42 Speaker 3: what happened to him? And then he gathered his son

43:46 Speaker 3: his wife and told them about what happened, and his

43:50 Speaker 3: son believed him, that his wife did not. And then

43:53 Speaker 3: he started writing the book because his purpose was to

43:57 Speaker 3: write a book to warn about the people earth about

44:01 Speaker 3: it's similar to the Book of You know, it's a parallel.

44:05 Speaker 3: It's in my question, Yes, yes, so we are. The

44:09 Speaker 3: reason that they took him is that we are at

44:12 Speaker 3: a very critical moment of time. If we don't, if

44:15 Speaker 3: it don't make the change, the necessary change, then we

44:19 Speaker 3: will be heading a disaster, a catastrophe. And this is

44:23 Speaker 3: the reason why they took him to write about his experience,

44:27 Speaker 3: to set warnings to the people on Earth so that

44:29 Speaker 3: we can make our own decisions, our own choice, uh

44:34 Speaker 3: to have a better future. Because when the Creator created

44:38 Speaker 3: all the human beings on Earth, they it actually gives

44:42 Speaker 3: our freedom of choice or free will to make certain

44:46 Speaker 3: choices in our lives. And also for Earth. We will

44:50 Speaker 3: read the autism the Bible when you read the story

44:53 Speaker 3: of Adam Eve the Apple in the Garden of Eden. Yes,

44:58 Speaker 3: that's to me is a story or parable on the

45:02 Speaker 3: free wheel. On free wheel, so when you are told

45:06 Speaker 3: not to eat an apple from a tree but you

45:08 Speaker 3: still do, you are exercising a free wheel and you

45:13 Speaker 3: have to face the consequences and bear the responsibilities. And similarly,

45:20 Speaker 3: we have the free will to decide what to do

45:23 Speaker 3: and we have to face the consequences as well. The

45:27 Speaker 3: karmig effect, the laws of karma is actually a universal

45:33 Speaker 3: law that no one can change.

45:36 Speaker 2: So this meaning you know the kind of person you are,

45:41 Speaker 2: the the how you interact with the universe.

45:47 Speaker 1: There there's a system to it where if you're a

45:51 Speaker 1: good person, if you're giving good energy, if you're doing

45:55 Speaker 1: the right thing, you know you're gonna get you you're

46:00 Speaker 1: on the good list. And then if you're not, you know,

46:02 Speaker 1: if you end up on the naughty list, you're probably

46:04 Speaker 1: doing things that are illegal.

46:06 Speaker 2: You know, So that system is there, so.

46:11 Speaker 3: Give you Another analogy is that people talk about nuclear

46:14 Speaker 3: wars on nuclear weapons, so the ETS will send warnings

46:19 Speaker 3: to us saying that the nuclear wars nuclear weapons are

46:24 Speaker 3: going to destude people on Earth, but they are not

46:27 Speaker 3: going to stop us from launching the nuclear missiles or

46:31 Speaker 3: the nuclear weapons.

46:32 Speaker 2: Because we have a free will to do it.

46:35 Speaker 1: So obviously, Captain roberts House is a very good friend

46:40 Speaker 1: of mine. Dave Shindily another nuclear same kind of job

46:46 Speaker 1: as Bob. I walked Bob into the Members of Congress's

46:51 Speaker 1: office so he could brief them. Those guys have this

46:59 Speaker 1: thing that they were trying to send us a message

47:03 Speaker 1: that we need to get rid of these weapons. These

47:06 Speaker 1: are nothing, They're nothing good. They're not going to help

47:09 Speaker 1: in any scenario. And but they affected them, they turned

47:14 Speaker 1: them off, but they didn't they didn't blow them like,

47:17 Speaker 1: they didn't disable them. They let us turn them back on, right,

47:22 Speaker 1: And why would they do that again? Like you said,

47:28 Speaker 1: you know, if we decide to launch those things like

47:31 Speaker 1: we did in World War World War two to end

47:34 Speaker 1: the war, you could argue that that was justified. You

47:39 Speaker 1: can argue that fact morally, but we also the second

47:43 Speaker 1: one is less justifiable, right, the second but arguably Okay,

47:49 Speaker 1: whatever it happens once and it's a it shows people

47:54 Speaker 1: the reality of what we just entered. Right, So we

47:59 Speaker 1: haven't had another one go off in actual scenario since then,

48:05 Speaker 1: which is actually pretty impressive, right considering we're aiming them

48:10 Speaker 1: all at each other.

48:11 Speaker 3: Right.

48:12 Speaker 1: So the nuclear controllers that I know that I've spoken with,

48:15 Speaker 1: they all said that the message was clear, it was

48:18 Speaker 1: a clear It wasn't it wasn't like them. They're not

48:22 Speaker 1: going to intervene. They're going to tell us, hey, I'm

48:26 Speaker 1: trying to give you a hint here, right. And that's

48:29 Speaker 1: what Bob Salice says, Captain Salace, that's what Captain Schandelli says,

48:33 Speaker 1: that's what Bob Jacob says.

48:36 Speaker 2: That's what all these nuclear that's what Mario Woods says.

48:41 Speaker 1: They all say that same thing. And these orbs, these

48:44 Speaker 1: are these orange just red orbs are continuously breaching our

48:48 Speaker 1: nuclear facilities and tampering with the weapons, shutting them off,

48:54 Speaker 1: turning them on to warn us, hey, guys, this is

48:59 Speaker 1: not the way. But they're not going to take them away.

49:03 Speaker 1: We have the right to have them, right. So that's

49:05 Speaker 1: an interesting framework. So but but and these guys have

49:09 Speaker 1: gone on to now, you know, test to their life's

49:15 Speaker 1: goal is to tell people like we need to get

49:17 Speaker 1: rid of this stuff. So that's a common theme in

49:21 Speaker 1: abduction people, like I said, abduction stories, so that as

49:24 Speaker 1: a theme here too.

49:25 Speaker 2: Yes, and sorry to go way off, way off, but

49:29 Speaker 2: I find that interesting connection there, right, because the proof

49:33 Speaker 2: is actually there that what you're what Michelle is saying,

49:38 Speaker 2: they are so warning us.

49:40 Speaker 3: Yeah. And also the book talks about the universe being

49:43 Speaker 3: a big atom. Once you deploy or lunch like a

49:47 Speaker 3: nuclear weapon, it affects all parts of the universe. So

49:51 Speaker 3: so that actually is mentioned in the book. I find

49:53 Speaker 3: out to be very interesting.

49:56 Speaker 2: So we might be doing damage somewhere else that we

49:59 Speaker 2: ran a gations that that it's like we rang the

50:03 Speaker 2: bell right right, and that's got mine. So how long?

50:11 Speaker 2: How long does it take Michelle?

50:13 Speaker 1: And well, we're probably going to take a break here

50:15 Speaker 1: in just a just a minute here, and then we'll

50:18 Speaker 1: come back and we'll get into some of the deeper.

50:22 Speaker 2: The theology and the and the stories.

50:24 Speaker 1: But how because I want to focus on Michelle right

50:27 Speaker 1: now for the beginning, how long does it take him

50:30 Speaker 1: to write the book? Like from when he gets back,

50:33 Speaker 1: when does the book come out?

50:35 Speaker 2: And how is it received? What's the end of that story?

50:40 Speaker 3: So thank in the late eighties, it was well before

50:44 Speaker 3: the age of the yourthology community becoming more popular, so

50:50 Speaker 3: he you know, the book about the two years or so,

50:54 Speaker 3: and then I had a hard time finding a publisher

50:56 Speaker 3: in Australia to get it published because all the publishers

51:00 Speaker 3: wanted to publish a book as a science fiction, but

51:03 Speaker 3: he was stubborn. He did not want to He wanted

51:07 Speaker 3: to publish as a non fiction, but no one believed

51:09 Speaker 3: him or wanted to publish it. So this is what happened.

51:13 Speaker 3: He had to self publish it. It was actually a

51:17 Speaker 3: little bit popular in Australia, but not so in the US.

51:21 Speaker 3: He actually came to the US in nineteen eighty three,

51:24 Speaker 3: had a lecturer in Atlanta, and then got interviewed by

51:28 Speaker 3: a few radio stations. However, people, most of the people,

51:32 Speaker 3: even youthologists in the US, did not believe him. But I,

51:36 Speaker 3: after learning what else he knew about couldn't write in

51:38 Speaker 3: the book, decided that it's probably the time for more

51:42 Speaker 3: people to know about his story.

51:46 Speaker 1: Okay, So it ended up becoming because of your translation,

51:51 Speaker 1: it ended up becoming a bestseller in Taiwan and China.

51:54 Speaker 3: Yes, which is really rare because you know, the two

51:57 Speaker 3: countries have different.

51:58 Speaker 1: Very very I mean, one says this one country, the

52:04 Speaker 1: other says two. So there's that big problem in the

52:09 Speaker 1: in the first place. But so Uh what when it

52:13 Speaker 1: originally was written. It wasn't until you went and saw

52:16 Speaker 1: him that the next phase began for it. Yes, you

52:20 Speaker 1: brought it to the modern Ufo community.

52:24 Speaker 3: Yes, especially in China and Taiwan. Now I'm trying to

52:27 Speaker 3: get the words out in the US and elsewhere, but

52:30 Speaker 3: in China and Taiwan.

52:31 Speaker 2: How did how did you convince him?

52:34 Speaker 3: He actually wanted the book to be published in China

52:37 Speaker 3: and Taiwan. And this is actually one of the kind

52:40 Speaker 3: of exchange, uh that we had, you know, the for

52:44 Speaker 3: him to tell me what else he knew about couldn't

52:46 Speaker 3: write in the book. I helped him.

52:49 Speaker 2: Are you gonna Are you gonna tell me?

52:51 Speaker 3: Uh?

52:52 Speaker 2: Do you have to tell me on camera? Just some hints,

52:54 Speaker 2: some hints, Okay, keep gone.

52:59 Speaker 3: So so it's actually pretty popular in China and Taiwan

53:03 Speaker 3: because people wanted to know, and it actually connects all

53:07 Speaker 3: the dolls that people have been wondering about the different

53:10 Speaker 3: religions like Buddhism and Christianity and also reincarnation about what

53:16 Speaker 3: to do when you have challenges in life, which is

53:19 Speaker 3: to look inside for answers and now to follow the

53:22 Speaker 3: government propaganda or or the media.

53:25 Speaker 2: Well, you know.

53:25 Speaker 1: What's interesting is and Jesus talked about this, right, is

53:33 Speaker 1: the fact that the church, the the the building, the

53:40 Speaker 1: church is kind of a it's it's a misnomer because

53:45 Speaker 1: Christ or Jesus, Jesus Christ the I don't know which

53:51 Speaker 1: one it was in your definition, but he had what

53:56 Speaker 1: what he.

53:56 Speaker 2: Told people was the church was inside of you.

53:59 Speaker 3: Yes, right, Christ, the Kingdom of God is within you.

54:02 Speaker 1: Within you, So you don't need to go to this

54:05 Speaker 1: building and sit down on the pews and listen like,

54:09 Speaker 1: that's not I don't think that that's more modern religion, right,

54:14 Speaker 1: guys in a robe like, you know, waving things around

54:19 Speaker 1: like as long as you look inside.

54:20 Speaker 2: I think we need to look more inside of ourselves. Right,

54:24 Speaker 2: And that sounds like that sounds like what the largest

54:29 Speaker 2: theme might be.

54:30 Speaker 3: Yes. So this is why they say that ets tell

54:33 Speaker 3: as a religious it's actually a curse on earth because

54:36 Speaker 3: the number four danger on earth number one being money,

54:40 Speaker 3: number two, politicians number three, journalists, and drugs number four religions.

54:46 Speaker 2: How journalists and drugs end up in the same category.

54:50 Speaker 3: The hell, you know, journalists they tend to focus on

54:54 Speaker 3: these sensational news, which calls it bleeds. It leads yes, yes,

54:58 Speaker 3: technological think yeah, and drugs really damaged the astrobody of

55:03 Speaker 3: a person. So hallocogenic drugs are really dangerous. Actually verified

55:08 Speaker 3: with the older readers, people who can see auras of people,

55:12 Speaker 3: asking the older readers whether people who use drugs tend

55:15 Speaker 3: to have more ugly aura and they confirm this. And

55:20 Speaker 3: indeed the halocogenic drugs will cause people to take a

55:25 Speaker 3: few reincarnations to repair the damages.

55:28 Speaker 2: Oh lord, oh lord, I've made some mistakes, Sam, I've

55:37 Speaker 2: made a couple of mistakes. If that's the.

55:39 Speaker 3: Case, and you can meditate to repair asbody.

55:41 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, So there is a there is some

55:44 Speaker 1: sort of antidote to that.

55:46 Speaker 2: Okay, so let's take let's stay well, we'll take a

55:51 Speaker 2: break here, we'll come back and then we'll get into

55:54 Speaker 2: some of that. Like you said, so, I think we've.

55:56 Speaker 1: Got the story of Michelle how it gets pass to you,

56:01 Speaker 1: and we've brought touched on some of the themes that

56:04 Speaker 1: we're gonna really dive into when we come back.

56:07 Speaker 2: So this is awesome.

56:10 Speaker 1: This has been a I cannot wait to really dig

56:13 Speaker 1: in here. Uh, this is a story, it's a very

56:17 Speaker 1: it's a very interesting. Ah, it touches on almost everything,

56:25 Speaker 1: and I feel like it's it's one of those it's

56:28 Speaker 1: one of these stories that I think that more people

56:32 Speaker 1: need to pay attention to because I think you're right.

56:37 Speaker 1: If there's one thing that I agree with you on,

56:40 Speaker 1: if regardless of any of this is true, is religion

56:44 Speaker 1: is actually not helping us.

56:47 Speaker 2: What it is is factionalizing us. Yeah, by it it's

56:52 Speaker 2: inherently causing division and and separation between people, like this

57:00 Speaker 2: tower of babble, right, yes, the separation of people.

57:04 Speaker 1: Well when when when humans are united, no, you know, united,

57:11 Speaker 1: no nationalism, no racism, take all of that away. If

57:16 Speaker 1: we could get above that, there's nothing that we couldn't do.

57:19 Speaker 2: That's right, right, There's nothing that we couldn't do. That's why.

57:25 Speaker 1: You know, when you see people come together, like a country,

57:29 Speaker 1: for instance, whether it was for the right reasons the

57:32 Speaker 1: wrong reasons. After nine to eleven United States, if you're here.

57:37 Speaker 2: People people in the in the in the wake of

57:42 Speaker 2: that tragedy, I had never seen people come together.

57:49 Speaker 1: So strongly, and it seemed like there was something in

57:56 Speaker 1: the air, like nothing could stop us. And again I'm

57:59 Speaker 1: not saying it was for the right reasons, the wrong reasons,

58:02 Speaker 1: you know.

58:03 Speaker 2: And yeah, it's this analogy, but but the country, everyone

58:07 Speaker 2: had a United States flag flying. Everyone was listening to

58:11 Speaker 2: creed mixes of uh of of patriotic like George Bush.

58:18 Speaker 2: It was crazy, the it was infectious. But we're so

58:25 Speaker 2: look what's Look, Look what's happening today? The division? Right, Yeah,

58:30 Speaker 2: it's and it's because we're putting our You're either left

58:33 Speaker 2: or you're right. If and if you're if you think differently,

58:36 Speaker 2: you're the enemy.

58:37 Speaker 3: I think people lack the knowledge that the politicians come

58:41 Speaker 3: and go every four eight years, but there's a group

58:43 Speaker 3: of people that runs everything behind the.

58:46 Speaker 2: Scenes, the deep state.

58:47 Speaker 3: It really doesn't matter whether it's the Republican or Democrat

58:50 Speaker 3: in power.

58:52 Speaker 1: Is the puppet the deep state, the career bureaucrats, which

58:57 Speaker 1: were never supposed to be a thing that was. The

59:00 Speaker 1: government wasn't designed for career politicians. It wasn't designed that way.

59:08 Speaker 1: Just he's a good friend of mine, Yes, and I

59:10 Speaker 1: worked with him too, so that he wrote a very

59:13 Speaker 1: very interesting article on the origins of the deep state. Yes,

59:18 Speaker 1: actually came from all and all those people, correct, and

59:21 Speaker 1: Alan Dallas, geez, we got to take that break. But yeah,

59:26 Speaker 1: so we'll get into more of this. But this is

59:28 Speaker 1: where I want to go with it as making those

59:30 Speaker 1: connections because I think if we can spark that audience,

59:36 Speaker 1: because I think I think people will really resonate with

59:40 Speaker 1: a lot of what this book touches on. So let's

59:43 Speaker 1: take a quick break and then we'll get we'll get

59:45 Speaker 1: deep into this, right all right, so we are back

59:54 Speaker 1: from the break, my friend, how are you good?

59:57 Speaker 2: All right?

59:57 Speaker 3: Good?

59:58 Speaker 2: Good, good good. So I want to us more into

1:00:00 Speaker 2: these themes here obviously, and I'll start off. You know,

1:00:08 Speaker 2: I want to open this up.

1:00:10 Speaker 1: And the book says humans exist physically only to develop spiritually.

1:00:18 Speaker 1: So they exist physically only to develop spiritually. How do

1:00:23 Speaker 1: you interpret that? And you know, is our physical reality

1:00:27 Speaker 1: training us or testing us for whatever comes next? You

1:00:32 Speaker 1: talk about reincarnation, so you know, what are we here

1:00:35 Speaker 1: to do in the in the ultimate scheme of things?

1:00:39 Speaker 3: So we are here to learn spiritual lessons where you

1:00:42 Speaker 3: seeing our physical body as a two to learn the

1:00:46 Speaker 3: lessons that we need to learn to progress to go

1:00:50 Speaker 3: through the different filters until we reach a state which

1:00:54 Speaker 3: is equivalent to the state of paradise or the Creator,

1:01:00 Speaker 3: so we can all become the creator or part of

1:01:04 Speaker 3: the Creator, but only if we learn sufficient spiritual lessons.

1:01:09 Speaker 3: And I think a lot of ancient scriptures say this,

1:01:13 Speaker 3: but some sometimes they use the story to to as parables.

1:01:19 Speaker 3: So it's I see life just like a test in

1:01:23 Speaker 3: which the questions already pre made. We had the free will.

1:01:29 Speaker 3: We have the free will to respond to the questions

1:01:32 Speaker 3: correctly or incorrectly, or to get a perfect store or

1:01:36 Speaker 3: to fail. So this is our own choice.

1:01:39 Speaker 1: And that's that karma scale, right that this way? And

1:01:44 Speaker 1: do you think that because there's been this idea presented

1:01:46 Speaker 1: amongst you know, the UFL community and and and you know,

1:01:52 Speaker 1: the larger spiritual community, if you will, but the fact

1:01:56 Speaker 1: that you know, we are all experiencing like where nodes

1:02:03 Speaker 1: of this this oneness, this source, and we're all experiencing

1:02:10 Speaker 1: a different aspect of it and returning to that source

1:02:14 Speaker 1: with these different experiences, right, you know, Like, so we're

1:02:19 Speaker 1: the That's what hell would be, is right, is finding

1:02:22 Speaker 1: out that you know, every person you've.

1:02:25 Speaker 2: Ever wronged, you're only doing it to yourself.

1:02:28 Speaker 3: Yeah, right, exactly, Because when a lot of people who

1:02:32 Speaker 3: have near death experiences tell that after they pass they experienced.

1:02:37 Speaker 3: Everything that they experienced in their life is shown to

1:02:41 Speaker 3: them as a holographic film. They can experience and feel

1:02:45 Speaker 3: the pains and sufferings that they want the people they wanted.

1:02:49 Speaker 3: They can also feel the happiness and the appreciation of

1:02:52 Speaker 3: the people they helped. So in a sense, it's kind

1:02:55 Speaker 3: of like a life review process to see how evaluate

1:02:59 Speaker 3: how they did their lifetime and they will be able

1:03:01 Speaker 3: to learn the mistakes they made and to be improving

1:03:05 Speaker 3: their next reincarnation.

1:03:07 Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is common again, like you said, among

1:03:10 Speaker 1: near death experiencers. And you know, I think that's like

1:03:15 Speaker 1: the idea of where maybe like you know, because where

1:03:18 Speaker 1: does the paranormal fit into all of this? You know,

1:03:22 Speaker 1: we're like, of course, you know, the story resonates because

1:03:27 Speaker 1: of course there's you know, a non human intelligence with

1:03:32 Speaker 1: the ovens, right, there's the craft that explains what we

1:03:37 Speaker 1: see in the sky, their ability to uh create.

1:03:41 Speaker 2: Things out of thin air.

1:03:43 Speaker 1: You know, it explains why our ancestors may have called

1:03:46 Speaker 1: them or mistaken them for gods uh and praying to

1:03:50 Speaker 1: them and you know, created religions for them or you know,

1:03:55 Speaker 1: it all makes sense to me, But where does like

1:03:58 Speaker 1: the paranormal and the supernatural fit into all this.

1:04:02 Speaker 3: It depends on which topic you're referring to. If you're

1:04:05 Speaker 3: do ghosts like the ets, explain what ghosts are. Ghosts

1:04:11 Speaker 3: are the part of the astrobody after person passes, which

1:04:16 Speaker 3: remains on earth until they're recycled by nature or when

1:04:20 Speaker 3: a person reincarnates. So what happens that when a person passes,

1:04:25 Speaker 3: the astrobody leaves the physical body, and then because the

1:04:29 Speaker 3: astrobody is composed of electrons, eighty one percent of electrons

1:04:34 Speaker 3: will go to their higher self after three days. And

1:04:39 Speaker 3: then this is why Christ resurrected after three days. This

1:04:44 Speaker 3: well independent culture, the corpse of the dead are not

1:04:48 Speaker 3: to be touched for at least three days because they

1:04:51 Speaker 3: think that the cycle has not been completed yet. So

1:04:55 Speaker 3: this is why. But the other nineteen percent of electrons

1:05:00 Speaker 3: will remain in nature, and because they're compulsive electrons, they

1:05:04 Speaker 3: resemble the appearance of the person who who lived. Because

1:05:10 Speaker 3: they also contain memories, this is why ghosts frequently frequently

1:05:14 Speaker 3: hunt the places they love or hate it.

1:05:17 Speaker 2: Right, Okay, so that that would make a lot of sense.

1:05:21 Speaker 2: The wow wow, So in getting back to these messianic figures,

1:05:30 Speaker 2: you know, Obviously, many spiritual traditions talk about reincarnation tele

1:05:34 Speaker 2: that they consciousness beyond the brain consciousness. How does the

1:05:40 Speaker 2: Deuba's explanation connect or conflict with the traditional esoteric or

1:05:46 Speaker 2: scientific views.

1:05:49 Speaker 3: They actually tell Michelle how a person's brain functions are

1:05:55 Speaker 3: is connected to the higher self through the cerebral Now,

1:06:01 Speaker 3: so what happens that in dreams or when a person meditates,

1:06:06 Speaker 3: or when a person is having a very spiritual experience,

1:06:10 Speaker 3: the astrobody of the person connects to the higher self

1:06:15 Speaker 3: of that person. So through this connection, directions or guidiance

1:06:22 Speaker 3: is given to that person to overcome the challenges in

1:06:25 Speaker 3: their life. And this is a very unique process in

1:06:28 Speaker 3: which people can just actually meditate or pray or just

1:06:33 Speaker 3: have a good idle sleep to receive guidiance from their

1:06:37 Speaker 3: own higher self.

1:06:39 Speaker 1: I was gonna you know, I was going to say,

1:06:40 Speaker 1: because it seems that, you know, the the idea of

1:06:47 Speaker 1: the kingdom or the peace of God inside of us, right,

1:06:54 Speaker 1: this divine spark inside of us is connected to some

1:06:58 Speaker 1: sort of something else. Whether it's that oneness or or

1:07:03 Speaker 1: or not, I don't know, uh, but you know, musicians

1:07:07 Speaker 1: often talk about it. Geniuses often talk about it about

1:07:11 Speaker 1: how it seems that you know, these thoughts, these amazing

1:07:18 Speaker 1: works of art, seem to come through them from somewhere else,

1:07:22 Speaker 1: you know, genius.

1:07:22 Speaker 2: People talk about it all the time, like the.

1:07:28 Speaker 1: Yeah, the the I think you know Einstein, Tesla, they

1:07:33 Speaker 1: all said, they all credited something else. It wasn't It

1:07:38 Speaker 1: was the knowledge coming through them and they were just

1:07:42 Speaker 1: a vessel. So it seems, you know, very interesting to me,

1:07:47 Speaker 1: Like what is consciousness and it must play an ultimate

1:07:53 Speaker 1: or dominant role in what we see as life?

1:07:58 Speaker 3: Yes, definitely. Cash business is a very important concept and

1:08:03 Speaker 3: which is talked about in this book as well. And actually,

1:08:08 Speaker 3: in order to overcome the challenges on earth or the

1:08:11 Speaker 3: difficulties that people face, we really have to form a

1:08:15 Speaker 3: collective conscionists to act together using non violence resistance to

1:08:21 Speaker 3: rise up against the tyrannies in the world right because

1:08:23 Speaker 3: we are facing the cabo or the cartel of special

1:08:27 Speaker 3: interest groups, people who control the financial or the maneatory

1:08:32 Speaker 3: system in order to gain profits themselves. So in order

1:08:36 Speaker 3: to rise up against this group of people, people need

1:08:39 Speaker 3: to have the knowledge and also to use non violence

1:08:42 Speaker 3: to really form a collective action. Because if you really

1:08:46 Speaker 3: think about it. If we stop working for these people,

1:08:52 Speaker 3: we each individual would lose very little, like the early

1:08:57 Speaker 3: wage or something like that. But the tail, the people

1:09:00 Speaker 3: in the cartail, they will lose humongous amount of money

1:09:03 Speaker 3: because they rely or depend our labor to profit themselves.

1:09:08 Speaker 3: They will lose hundreds of minutes of dollars for each

1:09:10 Speaker 3: hour we start working for them. But people have to

1:09:13 Speaker 3: act together to really against the status quo the system.

1:09:19 Speaker 2: Here, I couldn't agree more. Again, it's this idea of

1:09:23 Speaker 2: that larger, the parable.

1:09:26 Speaker 1: Or the the idea of that tier Babbel is the

1:09:30 Speaker 1: separation of people, the facts factionalization of people. And I

1:09:34 Speaker 1: think it's a real big problem in the quote unquote

1:09:38 Speaker 1: UFO community and anything. Anytime you dub something like a community,

1:09:43 Speaker 1: factions rise in that community. Right, So it seems the

1:09:47 Speaker 1: UFO community, you know, we aren't getting anything done because

1:09:55 Speaker 1: we're busy fighting each.

1:09:57 Speaker 3: Other, right Hypatrick.

1:09:59 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it often causes this problem where we're not

1:10:06 Speaker 2: focused on the ultimate goal, which should be some sort

1:10:10 Speaker 2: of disclosure, right it should be, And we try to

1:10:15 Speaker 2: fake ourselves and trick ourselves into thinking that is that

1:10:18 Speaker 2: is what we're doing.

1:10:19 Speaker 1: But unless you're out there and you're and you're doing

1:10:23 Speaker 1: something about it, you're not.

1:10:25 Speaker 2: And when you are the person that's out there doing something,

1:10:30 Speaker 2: you know, I know you've done a ton, you know,

1:10:33 Speaker 2: of traveling for talking about this book. You know, I've

1:10:37 Speaker 2: done a lot of things in d.

1:10:38 Speaker 1: C with with Like I said, I've taken action, but

1:10:43 Speaker 1: I also know my place right and I'm humble in

1:10:47 Speaker 1: that sense, like I know my place is right here

1:10:50 Speaker 1: in this microphone, having conversations with people like you, and

1:10:55 Speaker 1: then I do what I do on this, you know,

1:10:57 Speaker 1: with facilitating what I can with members of Congress and

1:11:00 Speaker 1: trying to move the needle.

1:11:01 Speaker 2: I know what my job is and I don't try

1:11:05 Speaker 2: to be anything. I'm not right. I'm not a UFO guru.

1:11:08 Speaker 2: But why do you think I'd be interested.

1:11:15 Speaker 1: If the ultimate goal is a government disclosure, if that

1:11:21 Speaker 1: is the only thing that is labeled Capital D disclosure.

1:11:26 Speaker 1: Do you see something like that happening when the president

1:11:28 Speaker 1: comes out and announces that we're not alone.

1:11:31 Speaker 3: I think it's possible, but it really requires a grassroots

1:11:36 Speaker 3: movement or action by the people, the populist people, the mass,

1:11:41 Speaker 3: because if the mass doesn't really say anything about this,

1:11:45 Speaker 3: these special interest groups are still going to control what

1:11:48 Speaker 3: they have been controlling over the last few decades. So

1:11:51 Speaker 3: I think we have to mobilize the mass the people.

1:11:55 Speaker 3: If you really look at history, all the great revolutions

1:11:58 Speaker 3: started at the bottom, the bottom up process and now

1:12:02 Speaker 3: the top down process.

1:12:03 Speaker 2: Right, civil rights movement, the for for women's women's rights,

1:12:11 Speaker 2: all of these things, uh for for uh you know,

1:12:14 Speaker 2: gay lesbian rights.

1:12:17 Speaker 1: These are bottom up movements that took on the snowball effect.

1:12:22 Speaker 1: So could you actually see people taking that kind of

1:12:28 Speaker 1: effort with a topic.

1:12:29 Speaker 3: Like this, Well, I think we need to really know

1:12:33 Speaker 3: what people care about first and then gradually insinuit messages

1:12:38 Speaker 3: of spirituality and disclosure to the people who care about

1:12:42 Speaker 3: their day to day issues. There are ways to go

1:12:45 Speaker 3: about that, and actually have been planning to start the

1:12:49 Speaker 3: grassroot effort in the US and also in other parts

1:12:52 Speaker 3: of the world to wake people up because people care

1:12:55 Speaker 3: about their financial issues, their health, their family.

1:13:00 Speaker 2: I was a thing.

1:13:01 Speaker 1: The bandwidth is very small for this right when we

1:13:05 Speaker 1: look around and you know, California's on fire every other year.

1:13:11 Speaker 1: Protests are happening because of you know, call it what

1:13:15 Speaker 1: you will, but all of the stuff that's happening right

1:13:19 Speaker 1: now you know with with you name it, and to

1:13:23 Speaker 1: put that into context. Right now, we're living in a

1:13:25 Speaker 1: time when you know, like say, whether you support ICE

1:13:30 Speaker 1: is what they're doing or not.

1:13:31 Speaker 2: Like I'm not here to pick a side, but you know,

1:13:36 Speaker 2: people are getting shot on the street, and like protests

1:13:41 Speaker 2: are happening over massive fraud. So it's hard for me

1:13:45 Speaker 2: to think about like when all that's happening, When wars

1:13:48 Speaker 2: are happening in Ukraine and throughout the Middle East like.

1:13:50 Speaker 5: Iran and Iran in Israel or you know, the Palestine

1:13:57 Speaker 5: in Israel, when all that's happening, are people really going

1:14:01 Speaker 5: to care about UFOs.

1:14:03 Speaker 3: I think it's important for people to have the knowledge

1:14:06 Speaker 3: that the people, the citizens of all the different countries

1:14:10 Speaker 3: do not want wars at all. I've talked to a

1:14:14 Speaker 3: lot of people and they do not want wars. But

1:14:16 Speaker 3: if you are the shareholder of a defense company that

1:14:20 Speaker 3: sells weapons to each side, then you would want wars.

1:14:25 Speaker 3: You would want to create wars so that you can

1:14:27 Speaker 3: still and continue to sell the weapons to the sides.

1:14:31 Speaker 3: And I think this is probably one of the reasons

1:14:33 Speaker 3: why there are wars in the world, because they're created

1:14:37 Speaker 3: by the people who wear everything behind the scenes. When

1:14:41 Speaker 3: people have the knowledge, then they can take actions to

1:14:44 Speaker 3: stop that from happening. They can really mobilize themselves and

1:14:49 Speaker 3: start a peaceful nonvaliin resistance movement in different countries. And

1:14:54 Speaker 3: I think that's actually one of the examples that the

1:14:57 Speaker 3: ETS gave us stated in the book that it only

1:15:01 Speaker 3: took about four people to start a movement and to

1:15:06 Speaker 3: change a government regime from the dictatorship government totalitarian regime

1:15:12 Speaker 3: into a democratic, more spiritual regime in which no wars

1:15:17 Speaker 3: occurred afterwards. It only took four people. That actually occurred

1:15:21 Speaker 3: when the four people protested in front of the palace

1:15:25 Speaker 3: of the government and then unfortunately they got killed. But

1:15:29 Speaker 3: people started to wake up after learning what happened, and

1:15:33 Speaker 3: it created this kind of inertia or snowball effects and

1:15:36 Speaker 3: people stopped working. They had a general strike. Everyone joined participated,

1:15:43 Speaker 3: including the police, including doctors and lawyers and professionals, and

1:15:48 Speaker 3: then the government had a shut down. And then this

1:15:52 Speaker 3: is what really caused the government to have the change.

1:15:57 Speaker 3: And I think that can happen to a lot of

1:16:00 Speaker 3: the countries in this world right now. And and but

1:16:03 Speaker 3: that has to be started to start at the grassroots level,

1:16:08 Speaker 3: because only that happened. When that happens, it can be

1:16:13 Speaker 3: long lasting because if you start to change at the

1:16:15 Speaker 3: top of the government, the president or the or or

1:16:20 Speaker 3: the president people, then then it's not going to have

1:16:24 Speaker 3: the support of the mass. It's not going to be stable.

1:16:28 Speaker 3: So this is why we need to have this kind

1:16:32 Speaker 3: of inertia or collective action.

1:16:38 Speaker 6: One second, the camera, the silver cameram collective action.

1:17:10 Speaker 3: Yes, so.

1:17:13 Speaker 1: Okay, so collective action is And so it sounds like

1:17:18 Speaker 1: maybe what we could do is.

1:17:22 Speaker 2: Couple couple on.

1:17:24 Speaker 1: This idea of coming together unity, right and wanting that

1:17:30 Speaker 1: more spiritual democratic society. We have to have a common

1:17:35 Speaker 1: goal and something to fight for, right.

1:17:38 Speaker 3: But before that happens, people need to have the knowledge

1:17:42 Speaker 3: how the system is working incorrectly and the real dangers

1:17:47 Speaker 3: facing us for the people on earth. Once people have

1:17:51 Speaker 3: the knowledge, they will know how to make the right

1:17:55 Speaker 3: choices in the future. So this is why I've been

1:17:57 Speaker 3: pushing so much up about this book, because the book

1:18:02 Speaker 3: reveals the knowledge that people need to be empowered with.

1:18:06 Speaker 1: Okay, so and and that's I think that is uh

1:18:11 Speaker 1: something that is desperately desperately needed. I mean, we're we're

1:18:16 Speaker 1: now seeing governments admit, right at least admit that UAPs

1:18:20 Speaker 1: and non human intelligence that they are seeing it.

1:18:27 Speaker 2: Do you believe that's true or is it? Do you

1:18:30 Speaker 2: think that there's some sort of controlled, carefully crafted narrative

1:18:37 Speaker 2: being pushed out by the government, uh to kind.

1:18:43 Speaker 1: Of subvert from what to subvert any real disclosure of

1:18:48 Speaker 1: the technological advancement that they've been able to thrive on,

1:18:53 Speaker 1: and you know, give us a bone.

1:18:56 Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely think that if I were the legacy

1:19:01 Speaker 3: group or the group of people that control this kind

1:19:05 Speaker 3: of technology, disruptive technology, I would definitely not want the

1:19:11 Speaker 3: public to know about it. I would keep it secret

1:19:13 Speaker 3: as long as possible and gradually disclosing it with the

1:19:18 Speaker 3: prolonged the process. So if I were then then I

1:19:22 Speaker 3: would definitely do this. So it's reasonable for that to happen. However,

1:19:27 Speaker 3: I think we the people need to make the effort

1:19:30 Speaker 3: to have the curiosity to know what is really going

1:19:33 Speaker 3: on in order to help ourselves, because the knowledge contained

1:19:38 Speaker 3: in the book not only can help our financial issues

1:19:43 Speaker 3: or problems in life, but also related to our health.

1:19:47 Speaker 3: Because if you read into the book, you're going to

1:19:49 Speaker 3: realize what is wrong with our medical system because the

1:19:52 Speaker 3: commissional drugs they focus on solving the symptoms but not

1:19:56 Speaker 3: the root causes of the issues, the medical diseases or condition.

1:20:01 Speaker 3: And and also it reveals that the traditional Chinese medicine can

1:20:05 Speaker 3: really help people to improve their energy feels which influenced

1:20:12 Speaker 3: our physical body. So this book contains a lot of

1:20:15 Speaker 3: practical knowledge and ways that can actually help a lot

1:20:19 Speaker 3: of people. I think that can really help the people

1:20:24 Speaker 3: to be educated and to really help themselves.

1:20:30 Speaker 2: So this book's very well rounded in its messages. Right,

1:20:35 Speaker 2: it's and it's from a person, and it's from a

1:20:39 Speaker 2: time where it's like, how did he how did he

1:20:43 Speaker 2: know all this stuff?

1:20:44 Speaker 1: He didn't know that, he didn't know it, he was

1:20:46 Speaker 1: told it and then he wrote it. And it's being

1:20:50 Speaker 1: verified now through scientific understanding and advancement, right with this

1:20:56 Speaker 1: blue light technology that those kind of things that are

1:20:59 Speaker 1: literally through the book are now being seen commercially.

1:21:03 Speaker 2: There's like, you know, red light chambers people are using.

1:21:11 Speaker 2: All these advancements are seemingly confirmed from a book from

1:21:16 Speaker 2: a guy who says he got the information from a

1:21:21 Speaker 2: non human intelligence that is not from this world. That

1:21:27 Speaker 2: you see what I'm going with this from a guy

1:21:29 Speaker 2: who had no understanding of what these in what he's

1:21:33 Speaker 2: writing about and how it would come into play. There's

1:21:36 Speaker 2: no way that he would.

1:21:37 Speaker 1: Understand that technology, unless because you said he's a landscaper

1:21:41 Speaker 1: from Australia. How is he so accurate in the depictions

1:21:47 Speaker 1: of technology that would soon revolutionize this stuff?

1:21:53 Speaker 3: Yes, and not only that, it also reveals a lot

1:21:56 Speaker 3: of the things that people have been wondering about.

1:22:01 Speaker 2: Who build a great pyramid of Egypt? So who did?

1:22:04 Speaker 3: Who did thoth the person from Atlantis? Yes, and he

1:22:12 Speaker 3: was a very wise and learned person who had the

1:22:15 Speaker 3: knowledge to use anti gravitational technologies to lift the huge stones.

1:22:23 Speaker 3: And then because if you neutralize gravity, no matter how

1:22:27 Speaker 3: heavy the stones were, they would become like Williss without weight.

1:22:31 Speaker 3: So he had the knowledge to use anti gravitational technologies.

1:22:35 Speaker 3: At the same time, he also knew how to cut

1:22:37 Speaker 3: the huge stones in a very precise manner you see

1:22:41 Speaker 3: ultrasound technologies. So he had the knowledge so that he

1:22:45 Speaker 3: was able to line the stones perfectly to make a

1:22:48 Speaker 3: great pyramid, so that it could be used as an

1:22:51 Speaker 3: energy center, so that the ancient pharaohs said in the

1:22:54 Speaker 3: King's chamber through meditation, could communicate with people on different planets.

1:23:00 Speaker 3: So this actually happened about seventeen thousand years ago when

1:23:05 Speaker 3: Thoughts built this, and.

1:23:08 Speaker 1: Then seventeen thousand years ago, yes, which obviously predates what

1:23:15 Speaker 1: they say by many years. So the Great Pyramid is

1:23:23 Speaker 1: this cosmic phone with other.

1:23:29 Speaker 3: Worlds communications center or energy center that can not only

1:23:34 Speaker 3: communicate with people on different planets, but also to make

1:23:38 Speaker 3: rain through a middle alloway.

1:23:40 Speaker 2: Plate make sorry, make what make rain?

1:23:44 Speaker 3: So to make Egypt or near the area to fertile,

1:23:50 Speaker 3: to have rainfall.

1:23:51 Speaker 2: Right, the Giza area was very lush right at one

1:23:56 Speaker 2: point and not the desert that we see.

1:24:00 Speaker 3: Yes, because we don't know how to use that anymore,

1:24:04 Speaker 3: but in the past.

1:24:05 Speaker 1: Okay, So so what what would power such a structure?

1:24:08 Speaker 1: Would it be liquid mercury like some have suggested, you

1:24:12 Speaker 1: know going through these uh now they're they're I don't

1:24:17 Speaker 1: know if you saw the Saar scans of what looked

1:24:21 Speaker 1: like U copper rods going down with this.

1:24:26 Speaker 3: The subterraneal st So what happens is that with that

1:24:31 Speaker 3: pyramid structure, it can capture cosmic and terrestrial energies so

1:24:36 Speaker 3: that it could be used as an energy center. So

1:24:40 Speaker 3: this further proofs that it can capture terrestrial energies through

1:24:45 Speaker 3: the subterraneal structures that recently was discovered.

1:24:48 Speaker 1: Do you think Tesla was tapped into that same idea,

1:24:53 Speaker 1: I think same technology.

1:24:55 Speaker 3: I think mentioned about the pyramid. Yes, so I think

1:24:59 Speaker 3: he had this knowledge as well. But unfortunately, fourteen thousand

1:25:03 Speaker 3: and five years ago we had a second grade reset,

1:25:07 Speaker 3: which coincided with the disappearance of the Muria and Atlantis

1:25:13 Speaker 3: in the Pacific Ocean Atlantis Atlantic Ocean. So once the

1:25:18 Speaker 3: two continents disappeared, we had the second great reset, the

1:25:22 Speaker 3: loss of ancient knowledge. During the time of Moses, there

1:25:27 Speaker 3: were still ancient mystical schools that taught about the spirituality

1:25:32 Speaker 3: and also the magic that the people of the Egyptian

1:25:37 Speaker 3: pharaohs were able to had their assistance to produce. But

1:25:43 Speaker 3: in the time of the births of Jesus, most of

1:25:47 Speaker 3: the people did not have the knowledge anymore. So this

1:25:51 Speaker 3: is why when Christ occurred and performed the miracles, people

1:25:57 Speaker 3: believed in the teachings of Christ because use the eaties

1:26:01 Speaker 3: knew they had to send someone want their own to

1:26:05 Speaker 3: perform the miracles. You know, they're for the teachings of

1:26:07 Speaker 3: Christ to be believed by the people at that time,

1:26:10 Speaker 3: because the people in the past as well as people nowadays,

1:26:13 Speaker 3: they're highly skeptical. Unless someone can perform miracles, his teachings

1:26:19 Speaker 3: wouldn't have been believed at the people.

1:26:21 Speaker 1: What do you think of guys like Chris blood celluh

1:26:25 Speaker 1: who are able to call in these angelic what he

1:26:30 Speaker 1: refers to as angelic orbs through his mind through meditation.

1:26:37 Speaker 1: It's like, it's exactly what you're talking about. What do

1:26:41 Speaker 1: you what do you make of that?

1:26:42 Speaker 2: And what he talks about the lady, the lady gave

1:26:45 Speaker 2: him a prophecy that involved the Sphinx the Star of Regulus,

1:26:50 Speaker 2: and I mean, it all seems to connect.

1:26:53 Speaker 3: What did the lady say about the Sphinx?

1:26:56 Speaker 2: So what she said is that when when the Star

1:27:02 Speaker 2: of Regulus lay upon the gaze of the Sphinx, human

1:27:11 Speaker 2: kind will go through a awakening experience a great knowledge.

1:27:19 Speaker 2: And astronomers have been trying to chart it out. And

1:27:24 Speaker 2: the Star of Regulus is the King Star, right, and

1:27:31 Speaker 2: it it's we don't know.

1:27:35 Speaker 1: Apparently it's Easter twenty twenty six, but it's being debated

1:27:40 Speaker 1: when that's actually going to occur because.

1:27:43 Speaker 2: In that they also said the star would appear red,

1:27:48 Speaker 2: and it's a blue star.

1:27:50 Speaker 1: So I'm not that part doesn't really line up unless

1:27:54 Speaker 1: it would appear red over the horizon because of the

1:27:56 Speaker 1: glow of the you know how like the sun becomes

1:27:59 Speaker 1: like a red I'm not sure.

1:28:02 Speaker 3: So, so I think Chris Blessol is a good way,

1:28:07 Speaker 3: a gradual step for most Americans to wake up to

1:28:10 Speaker 3: the fact that there's a connection between God and it

1:28:14 Speaker 3: is and also we should follow the teachings of Christ.

1:28:19 Speaker 3: Was interesting about the Sphins is that Michelle Mrkay of

1:28:22 Speaker 3: this book, he did not write this in the book,

1:28:25 Speaker 3: but he was told that when the time is right,

1:28:28 Speaker 3: when we are ready, we can open up the sphins

1:28:31 Speaker 3: and find the three chambers beneath the Sphinx. Once that happens, yeah.

1:28:39 Speaker 2: Keep going, I'll tell you something after.

1:28:41 Speaker 3: Once that happens, everything will be known because there's air

1:28:45 Speaker 3: their secrets and knowledge in the three chambers beneath the Sphinx.

1:28:51 Speaker 2: WHOA wow, Well there's this guy who worked with Chris

1:28:58 Speaker 2: but Rod God, I can't remember his name right now,

1:29:02 Speaker 2: Jamie pull it up. No, say, we don't have a Jamie.

1:29:05 Speaker 7: We just have a but uh so this, this person

1:29:13 Speaker 7: that Bledsoe is working with, was they were looking for.

1:29:16 Speaker 1: This ruby, this red ruby that you'd place on the

1:29:21 Speaker 1: paw of the sphinx or between the paws of the sphinx,

1:29:24 Speaker 1: and it would open up and let you into chambers

1:29:27 Speaker 1: under the sphinx that held great knowledge, just like you're saying,

1:29:32 Speaker 1: or just like was written in the book that there

1:29:35 Speaker 1: was this great knowledge under the paw under the sphinx,

1:29:39 Speaker 1: and in the it only so Chris is suggesting, what

1:29:45 Speaker 1: if the star of Regulus is that ruby and it

1:29:49 Speaker 1: has to line up with the gaze of the sphinx,

1:29:51 Speaker 1: because if it lined up with the gaze of the Sphinx,

1:29:54 Speaker 1: it would line up with the pause as well. So

1:29:57 Speaker 1: could the ruby that be this star of regular.

1:30:00 Speaker 3: I'll do more research on that, but I think right

1:30:03 Speaker 3: now we are not ready to open the chambers because

1:30:06 Speaker 3: the technologies and the knowledge can help us but also

1:30:10 Speaker 3: destroy us.

1:30:11 Speaker 1: But it would because it would be be seized by

1:30:13 Speaker 1: a corrupt government now or a corrupt Egyptian the Egyptian

1:30:20 Speaker 1: antiquities departments that I mean, did you see that Joe

1:30:24 Speaker 1: Rogan episode where he was on It was the worst

1:30:29 Speaker 1: episode ever, it was the worst. What's that guy's name,

1:30:36 Speaker 1: yaas he's he is just he is so ignorant.

1:30:41 Speaker 2: He is a very ignorant man.

1:30:43 Speaker 1: And so getting back to the book, do you do

1:30:48 Speaker 1: you believe that there are some non human intelligence that

1:30:54 Speaker 1: may deliberately be misleading humanity, posing as saved years, gods

1:31:01 Speaker 1: or even angels.

1:31:03 Speaker 3: I would say some people on Earth will be trying,

1:31:05 Speaker 3: would be trying to do that in the near future,

1:31:07 Speaker 3: or have been doing that, uh the egs. They will

1:31:11 Speaker 3: be prevented from doing that. I mean, the only it

1:31:14 Speaker 3: is that will likely to think about doing this are

1:31:19 Speaker 3: the ones that are not so spiritually advanced. Great, because

1:31:22 Speaker 3: they're messing up with the civilization on Earth, and they

1:31:25 Speaker 3: will be prevented by the theobens uh from messing with

1:31:31 Speaker 3: us on our mind because we are we are like

1:31:35 Speaker 3: elementary school and their guardians or their protector protections against

1:31:42 Speaker 3: the foreign invaders uh to to really influence, uh negatively

1:31:48 Speaker 3: the development of the students in the elementary school. So

1:31:52 Speaker 3: I would think that their role, the thebans uh is

1:31:56 Speaker 3: to really protect us, to keep us in an environment

1:32:00 Speaker 3: reach we can grow ourselves. They would prevent the invaders

1:32:03 Speaker 3: from doing some horriful things to us.

1:32:07 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, And how I mean is discernment the most

1:32:13 Speaker 2: important survival skill in the coming era of disclosure, Like

1:32:18 Speaker 2: because with the advancements of things like AI and you know,

1:32:23 Speaker 2: AI video is particularly getting really already realistic, and you know,

1:32:31 Speaker 2: because this discernment of what's actually true is going to

1:32:37 Speaker 2: be a big factor in what is consensus reality. Because

1:32:44 Speaker 2: even though two plus two equals four, if society just

1:32:48 Speaker 2: deems there's five, and and you know, a bunch of

1:32:52 Speaker 2: videos go out, propaganda goes out saying it's five, the

1:32:58 Speaker 2: consensus reality becomes that it's five. Right, it doesn't matter

1:33:02 Speaker 2: that the real answer is for what? So does the

1:33:06 Speaker 2: truth matter? It does matter, I think, right, just.

1:33:09 Speaker 3: Like four hundred years ago, a lot of people in

1:33:11 Speaker 3: the Catholic religion believed that we were the center of

1:33:15 Speaker 3: the universe. And there are people who disagreed and they

1:33:19 Speaker 3: got burned.

1:33:21 Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean, you know, what was it.

1:33:26 Speaker 3: I think that there were several people, But there was.

1:33:29 Speaker 1: A galileo got they put him on house arrest, and

1:33:35 Speaker 1: they ruined his reputation, reputation because he he had a telescope,

1:33:42 Speaker 1: and all they had to do is look through the

1:33:44 Speaker 1: telescope to see that that we were not the center

1:33:47 Speaker 1: of the universe, and the church put him on the

1:33:51 Speaker 1: house arrest they you know, because that was hearsay.

1:33:55 Speaker 2: So it seems like guys.

1:33:57 Speaker 1: Like Graham Hancock, guys like Michelle de Marque, they were

1:34:03 Speaker 1: there ahead of their time and maybe a little bit

1:34:06 Speaker 1: too ahead of their time.

1:34:07 Speaker 2: But is that on? Is that by design because it

1:34:12 Speaker 2: makes them more credible?

1:34:14 Speaker 3: Well, I think people have different evolutionary stages. Some people

1:34:20 Speaker 3: are old souls, some people are younger souls. The younger

1:34:23 Speaker 3: souls will learn the different lessons from the people who

1:34:26 Speaker 3: have older souls, so so people will will learn different lessons.

1:34:31 Speaker 3: So I think in the coming age of AI, people

1:34:35 Speaker 3: need to have the discernment to really look inside and

1:34:38 Speaker 3: find out what they really want to be living and

1:34:42 Speaker 3: not to be swayed by the AI results or the

1:34:46 Speaker 3: government propaganda.

1:34:48 Speaker 2: The government narratives and all that.

1:34:51 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, I can again, I couldn't agree more. So,

1:34:57 Speaker 1: what like, what do you think about or what does

1:35:00 Speaker 1: the book say about other abduction experiences and this idea

1:35:08 Speaker 1: of a.

1:35:12 Speaker 2: Librization program.

1:35:15 Speaker 3: I think the hybrid division program is uh the program

1:35:19 Speaker 3: that involves the military, the US military, or the secret

1:35:24 Speaker 3: of secret government programs. I don't think they're directly involved.

1:35:30 Speaker 3: I mean, the highly densets are not directly involved.

1:35:35 Speaker 1: So you think that again it's as a more crude objective.

1:35:40 Speaker 1: It sounds more human and more human posing.

1:35:43 Speaker 2: As abduction experiences. My law, my yeah, military, my labs,

1:35:50 Speaker 2: my labs.

1:35:51 Speaker 3: There are man made programs. And I do think that

1:35:54 Speaker 3: we currently the military has the ability to really impose

1:36:00 Speaker 3: or inject memories onto people's brains so that they believed

1:36:04 Speaker 3: that they had certain experiences in a specific secre space program.

1:36:10 Speaker 3: And I really think that the abduction experiences in which

1:36:16 Speaker 3: the abductees had been harmed or had been fearful of

1:36:21 Speaker 3: such experience are actually part of the military programs. And

1:36:27 Speaker 3: I think the real abduction experiences, or the experiences by

1:36:32 Speaker 3: Chad Markay or Enoch are actually very pleasant experiences in

1:36:37 Speaker 3: which knowledge is learned and then they can share to

1:36:41 Speaker 3: the people on Earth.

1:36:42 Speaker 2: How long was Enoch gone?

1:36:44 Speaker 3: You know, did not come back according to legends, and

1:36:48 Speaker 3: but that really occurred before the flood. A few decades later,

1:36:53 Speaker 3: Noah was told to build the arc. So you can

1:36:56 Speaker 3: imagine the timing. Timing wise Marka was taken by the

1:37:00 Speaker 3: Ets to their planet and a few decades later, what

1:37:04 Speaker 3: would happen? You've seen parallel analogy?

1:37:07 Speaker 2: Wow? Wow, so we are running this. So do you

1:37:14 Speaker 2: think you know it was in was was potentially in

1:37:20 Speaker 2: seeing the the Ubans?

1:37:21 Speaker 3: Yes, exactly, because when Michelle came back, why.

1:37:25 Speaker 1: Was he able to stay so much longer? Because he well,

1:37:28 Speaker 1: he might have been an older soul, right, he was

1:37:31 Speaker 1: probably an ancient soul like he was a Hebrew yeap

1:37:35 Speaker 1: oh oh that totally makes sense, right you said that?

1:37:41 Speaker 2: Oh my god? Wow? Whoa yea hmmm. Where do you

1:37:49 Speaker 2: go from there?

1:37:51 Speaker 3: Yeah?

1:37:51 Speaker 2: Because so okay, all of these prophecies, all of these

1:38:01 Speaker 2: these things that are told to us, whether it's quite

1:38:06 Speaker 2: so Quattle, whether it's the Watchers, whether it's any any

1:38:15 Speaker 2: figure like that, they always say they're going to return, right, yeah,

1:38:22 Speaker 2: h Are we on the precipice of something like that?

1:38:27 Speaker 3: I agree?

1:38:28 Speaker 2: I think so the return of Christ, like, could that

1:38:31 Speaker 2: be something that? I mean?

1:38:34 Speaker 3: So what happens is that I kind of think it's

1:38:37 Speaker 3: my personal opinion is that that's equivalent to the time

1:38:41 Speaker 3: when we turn in our examination sheets so we can

1:38:46 Speaker 3: actually test yet a test we can actually have a

1:38:49 Speaker 3: perfect score, but we can also fail the test.

1:38:53 Speaker 2: I don't think we have a perfect score.

1:38:55 Speaker 3: So this is why everyone needs to wake up and

1:38:58 Speaker 3: to have the knowledge to get a perfect score. This

1:39:01 Speaker 3: is why I've been pushing so hard to let people

1:39:04 Speaker 3: know about the books.

1:39:05 Speaker 2: And in just how many pages? Is one hundred and

1:39:09 Speaker 2: seventy or so in one hundred and seventy pages, that

1:39:12 Speaker 2: is all that in one hundred and seventy page. How

1:39:17 Speaker 2: long is the Bible it's made up of? How many

1:39:21 Speaker 2: I think it's over nine hundred pages, and it can

1:39:24 Speaker 2: be condensed into something like one hundred and seventy pages.

1:39:27 Speaker 3: I think it's has more information knowledge than the Bible,

1:39:32 Speaker 3: quite a feat because if you read the New Testaments

1:39:35 Speaker 3: and Old Testaments of the Bible, you're going to really

1:39:39 Speaker 3: know that the Old tests of the Bible, in essence,

1:39:42 Speaker 3: it is about the ten commendments and also the most

1:39:45 Speaker 3: important one is do not worship idols. And all the

1:39:50 Speaker 3: New Testaments of the Bible is a false part profits, yes, profits.

1:39:54 Speaker 3: The New test of the Bible is looking side for

1:39:56 Speaker 3: answers and learn about love, and I think those those

1:40:00 Speaker 3: are the essence of the Bible. But we will read

1:40:03 Speaker 3: this book. You're going to learn the ancient civilizations, the Pyramid,

1:40:07 Speaker 3: the Bermuda Triangle, parallel Universe, how the Etis come to Earth,

1:40:12 Speaker 3: how they get out of the Earth, the Akashic Record,

1:40:15 Speaker 3: the time machine, Philadelphia experiment, and also.

1:40:21 Speaker 2: Talk to me about the Philadelphia experiment.

1:40:24 Speaker 3: So according to the Etis, the US government has been

1:40:28 Speaker 3: trying to develop a.

1:40:30 Speaker 2: Time machine and the Townsend Brown.

1:40:33 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they say they actually explain to us that

1:40:38 Speaker 3: it's possible to go back in time. Tend to look

1:40:42 Speaker 3: at the past because when a planet is born, there's

1:40:46 Speaker 3: a cycle sphere that rotates that seven times the speed

1:40:50 Speaker 3: of light that records and documents everything that happens on

1:40:54 Speaker 3: the planet. When you match the vibrational frequency of the

1:40:58 Speaker 3: cycle sphere, which just seven times the speed of light,

1:41:02 Speaker 3: you can actually access the Akashic Record or the past

1:41:08 Speaker 3: as an observer. So what happens that Michelle actually was

1:41:11 Speaker 3: taken to see what happened in the past when the

1:41:15 Speaker 3: continent of the Muria sunk into the ocean. He actually

1:41:19 Speaker 3: saw what happened as an observer. So you cannot change

1:41:24 Speaker 3: the past because it's just like a holographic film. But

1:41:28 Speaker 3: you can see what happened in the past. As an observer,

1:41:33 Speaker 3: you cannot see the future.

1:41:34 Speaker 1: The same idea as like the chronovisor yeah from the

1:41:38 Speaker 1: Vatican's right, like you can only watch. You could not

1:41:43 Speaker 1: interfere because of course the grand grandfather paradox stuff like that,

1:41:49 Speaker 1: like or the butterfly effect. Like changing anything in the

1:41:53 Speaker 1: past will alter a future or create a branch timeline.

1:41:56 Speaker 3: You cannot change anything in the past, right, it's a

1:41:59 Speaker 3: holographic right, like watching a film, right, and you can

1:42:05 Speaker 3: you can know the probabilities of the future, but you

1:42:07 Speaker 3: cannot really precisely predict what exactly going to have in

1:42:12 Speaker 3: the future because the future is changeable. We have a

1:42:15 Speaker 3: free will to change the future.

1:42:17 Speaker 2: There's many futures that it's it's the same thing as

1:42:22 Speaker 2: the the the probability. Uh so.

1:42:28 Speaker 1: All the shirtinger's cat, right, it's put in the box,

1:42:35 Speaker 1: and you know there's poison in the box. We don't

1:42:39 Speaker 1: know that the cat is dead and both dead and

1:42:43 Speaker 1: alive until an observer looks in. So there's multiple possibilities, right,

1:42:49 Speaker 1: there's multiple outcomes and until a conscious observer just observes

1:42:55 Speaker 1: both of the possibilities exist, right, So the is both

1:43:00 Speaker 1: alive and dead until someone looks and realize, you know,

1:43:05 Speaker 1: enters that future where they know it's direct apprehension.

1:43:09 Speaker 2: Yes, but very interesting.

1:43:13 Speaker 3: But certain major points nexus yeah points uh, you a

1:43:19 Speaker 3: person's life is they're they're fixed because like well a

1:43:23 Speaker 3: person is boring to the life, uh, the entire life.

1:43:27 Speaker 3: The major events are shown to that person before he

1:43:32 Speaker 3: or she her astrobodic goes into the embryo. So so

1:43:36 Speaker 3: we have to accept the life, the major important events

1:43:41 Speaker 3: in the life, in one's life, so those events are

1:43:45 Speaker 3: actually fixed, like who you're going to marry, Like the

1:43:49 Speaker 3: major incidents that will cause you to become a disabled person.

1:43:54 Speaker 1: The cannon events, the events that define who you become. Right,

1:43:59 Speaker 1: those are the those are the big tests, the obstacles

1:44:03 Speaker 1: those are those are set, Those are set, and then

1:44:07 Speaker 1: I see what you're saying.

1:44:08 Speaker 3: Those are just like the questions on examination sheet. Those

1:44:13 Speaker 3: are determined, predetermined, and then how to respond to the

1:44:17 Speaker 3: challenges depend on your action, your your choice.

1:44:21 Speaker 2: So we have free will to a degree, to a

1:44:25 Speaker 2: degree that's quite quite the h o gosh.

1:44:34 Speaker 1: So with all that being said, I mean I'm curious

1:44:40 Speaker 1: to know have you ever seen like a UF have

1:44:43 Speaker 1: you ever seen a UFO.

1:44:45 Speaker 2: You've never seen a UFO. What would you do if, like,

1:44:52 Speaker 2: what what would you do if if the Theubans contacted you? Well,

1:44:57 Speaker 2: would you talk about it?

1:44:59 Speaker 3: I definitely would talk about it. But in my conscious

1:45:02 Speaker 3: mind and subconscious mind, I want to do everything on

1:45:05 Speaker 3: my own to navigate the system to really spread the

1:45:09 Speaker 3: knowledge to as many people as possible, not just people

1:45:12 Speaker 3: in the US or China or tailor, but people in

1:45:15 Speaker 3: all parts of the world that I think it needs

1:45:18 Speaker 3: to be a global effort, and in the process, I

1:45:21 Speaker 3: want to do it on my own as much as

1:45:23 Speaker 3: possible so I can learn as much as possible. It's

1:45:27 Speaker 3: similar to when you have your child, your son to

1:45:31 Speaker 3: learn mathematical problem. You really want him to solve the

1:45:35 Speaker 3: problem on his own so that he can learn how

1:45:38 Speaker 3: to solve the problem. If you just give him the

1:45:40 Speaker 3: answers directly, then he wouldn't be able to learn. So

1:45:43 Speaker 3: I want to learn as much as possible possible through

1:45:47 Speaker 3: the process without the assistance of the ets of the Thebans.

1:45:51 Speaker 3: So this is in my subconscious mind. I want to

1:45:54 Speaker 3: really experience everything on my.

1:45:56 Speaker 1: Own, almost like a control Yeah, right, you're you're you're

1:46:02 Speaker 1: non tampered with, right, you're non you have no bias

1:46:05 Speaker 1: built in because okay, then I honestly that's respectable. But

1:46:10 Speaker 1: I think you deserve like a sighting, like just a craft.

1:46:15 Speaker 1: You know, I've had my own of a of a

1:46:16 Speaker 1: disc shaped craft.

1:46:18 Speaker 2: What what was the type of craft that they flew

1:46:21 Speaker 2: in spiracle?

1:46:22 Speaker 3: It's like a wrong bowl one hundred meters in diameter.

1:46:26 Speaker 2: It's like so again, sounding like Enoch the wheel within

1:46:31 Speaker 2: the wheel, right, yeah, exactly, So that's interesting, that's interesting.

1:46:40 Speaker 1: Do you think that the more so? Obviously that would

1:46:43 Speaker 1: think so do you think, I mean, do you think

1:46:45 Speaker 1: crash retrievals have happened of it? Sounds like you do

1:46:49 Speaker 1: from what you said earlier.

1:46:50 Speaker 2: But again it's it's these lower, lower, lower tier civilizations.

1:46:54 Speaker 3: Yes so, And the US government has been learning from

1:46:58 Speaker 3: the piers. The difference is speak in the US and China,

1:47:02 Speaker 3: is that the US government has a secret program to

1:47:05 Speaker 3: reverse engineer the crashed ET vehicles. The China also does it,

1:47:12 Speaker 3: of course, but but but the book is more popular

1:47:16 Speaker 3: in China, So the mass, the Chinese public knows more

1:47:21 Speaker 3: about the higher level the masters, the e T masters

1:47:25 Speaker 3: than the US public. Yes, so, so the difference is this.

1:47:32 Speaker 3: So I think it's the time for the US public

1:47:35 Speaker 3: to wake up and to gain as much knowledge as

1:47:38 Speaker 3: the Chinese public. I mean, the people in China are

1:47:41 Speaker 3: very different from the government, so we have the separated too.

1:47:45 Speaker 3: The government is uh bureaucratic and really have.

1:47:50 Speaker 1: The same issues as we have, but just on another level. Right,

1:47:54 Speaker 1: Like there's let's face it, like there are two different governments,

1:48:00 Speaker 1: but two you know, radically different but ultimately fall to

1:48:08 Speaker 1: the same problems. Yes, the same issues corruption and greed, power, money, right,

1:48:15 Speaker 1: everything that corrupts the soul.

1:48:17 Speaker 3: Yes, And China is not doing really well economically and

1:48:22 Speaker 3: it has a lot of problems, and the people don't

1:48:25 Speaker 3: trust the government anymore. In the US people started to

1:48:29 Speaker 3: do the same. So I think it's time to empower

1:48:31 Speaker 3: the people with the right knowledge so that they can

1:48:34 Speaker 3: power themselves to start the revolution alone lasting revolution. In China,

1:48:42 Speaker 3: German Mall started the revolution at the grassroots level that

1:48:46 Speaker 3: he did not really persuade the leaders at that time

1:48:49 Speaker 3: to change the government. He started in the rural parts

1:48:52 Speaker 3: of the country and then the people started to mobilize

1:48:56 Speaker 3: themselves and things started to go on. I think similar

1:49:02 Speaker 3: things can happen in the US and globally. I think

1:49:05 Speaker 3: the power really lies in the hands of the people,

1:49:07 Speaker 3: the public.

1:49:08 Speaker 2: So okay, and this will this is about the future

1:49:18 Speaker 2: if humanity.

1:49:21 Speaker 1: Fails the test described in the Deuber prophecy. What does

1:49:27 Speaker 1: failure actually look like?

1:49:29 Speaker 2: Is that extinction? Is that a great reset God forbid

1:49:35 Speaker 2: or or or or something worse. I don't know what's

1:49:38 Speaker 2: worse than a great reset, but what what what does

1:49:40 Speaker 2: failure look like if we ultimately fail?

1:49:45 Speaker 3: So you know the story story of Noah, and you

1:49:47 Speaker 3: also know the story of son Go Mora. And I'll

1:49:52 Speaker 3: just give you an example. In the time of Southern Gomorra,

1:49:56 Speaker 3: the people in the two cities were still evil that

1:50:01 Speaker 3: they punished the compassionate people who helped, who helped the poor.

1:50:07 Speaker 3: And there's a story in the Jewish Torah, or the Bible,

1:50:12 Speaker 3: the Jewish scripture, that there's a young girl who gave

1:50:16 Speaker 3: food to the poor, but she was punished by the

1:50:19 Speaker 3: people in the in the city, and then she cried

1:50:23 Speaker 3: out to the Lord and of Jehovah, and and so

1:50:26 Speaker 3: so became the story of the destruction Southern Gomorrah. So

1:50:30 Speaker 3: it's not just about sodomy. It's about how the people

1:50:33 Speaker 3: behaved in the two cities. They punished the people who

1:50:38 Speaker 3: were compassionate, and the people who were in contact with

1:50:42 Speaker 3: them God affected. So when you have a malignant tumor

1:50:48 Speaker 3: in your body, it's probably better to surgically remove the

1:50:52 Speaker 3: tumor so that doesn't spread to the rest the rest

1:50:56 Speaker 3: of the body. So similarly, you can use the same analogy.

1:51:00 Speaker 3: You project what's going to happen if you fail the test?

1:51:04 Speaker 2: Oh lord?

1:51:06 Speaker 3: Yeah?

1:51:09 Speaker 1: Conversely, what does success look like for humanity in the

1:51:14 Speaker 1: next fifty to one hundred years?

1:51:17 Speaker 3: So I think we are You and I and just

1:51:23 Speaker 3: as well are going to see what's going to happen,

1:51:29 Speaker 3: which is the what people have been expecting. It's not

1:51:33 Speaker 3: going to come. It's not going to come next year

1:51:36 Speaker 3: or the next decade, but it's going to come in

1:51:39 Speaker 3: our lifetime. Because if you do the calculations, so between

1:51:44 Speaker 3: the time that Eno was taken, at the time when

1:51:48 Speaker 3: Noah was told to build an arc, when the flood

1:51:51 Speaker 3: really happened, they were about according to some calculations, it's

1:51:58 Speaker 3: forty to eighty years of time. So if you do

1:52:02 Speaker 3: the calculations, Michelle was taken in nineteen eighty seven, so

1:52:07 Speaker 3: forty to eighty years time. Then the event is going

1:52:12 Speaker 3: to happen for nineteen eighty seven.

1:52:19 Speaker 2: Okay, do you do you think humanity's greatest obstacle right

1:52:25 Speaker 2: now might be technology, fear, ego, or ignorance of our

1:52:32 Speaker 2: ignorance of our true nature.

1:52:35 Speaker 3: Yes, I think it's going to be technology. And also

1:52:40 Speaker 3: the influence influences of the cartel or the cabell composed

1:52:48 Speaker 3: of the people who control the companies and the secrets.

1:52:55 Speaker 3: So this is why it's important to mobilize the mass

1:52:59 Speaker 3: the public. I met Michelle and asked him. He told

1:53:06 Speaker 3: me that they are twelve families controlling everything behind the scenes,

1:53:10 Speaker 3: and asking who the twelve families were, and he told

1:53:15 Speaker 3: me nothing because the ets didn't tell him. But he

1:53:19 Speaker 3: assumed that the Roman Catholic Church is one of the

1:53:22 Speaker 3: twelve families, and there are others that are probably not

1:53:27 Speaker 3: well known to the public. It's definitely not the family

1:53:31 Speaker 3: that people speculate.

1:53:32 Speaker 1: No, of course, if and that's what I've always said,

1:53:35 Speaker 1: is the people that are pulling the strings, You've never

1:53:39 Speaker 1: heard of them, right, You've never heard of them. They

1:53:45 Speaker 1: it's not fame that they put on this whole you

1:53:49 Speaker 1: know show, it's the people that are controlling the Epstein's,

1:53:54 Speaker 1: the ditties, right, those are their public figures, right, and

1:53:59 Speaker 1: then they're getting blackmail on the most powerful people in

1:54:03 Speaker 1: all these industries, whether it's Harvey Weinstein in the film industry,

1:54:07 Speaker 1: whether it's a Ditty in the music industry, whether it's

1:54:11 Speaker 1: Epstein in the financial sector, which touches over to politics sadly,

1:54:16 Speaker 1: you know, corrupting the presidents, you know, blackmailing presidents. For me, logically,

1:54:23 Speaker 1: when I think about that, the same people that are

1:54:25 Speaker 1: behind that have to be the same people that are

1:54:27 Speaker 1: suppressing this technology, and they don't want to be known.

1:54:32 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, you know. Accidentally I found some clues to

1:54:38 Speaker 3: the possible kind of people that those people are because

1:54:42 Speaker 3: the book talks about auras, so the human energy feels.

1:54:45 Speaker 3: And I really wanted to develop the ability to see

1:54:48 Speaker 3: the colors of ours.

1:54:50 Speaker 2: So I found it would help you in a in

1:54:53 Speaker 2: court as well.

1:54:54 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, side note. Yeah, So I found this forum

1:55:01 Speaker 3: that talks about a book in German language, a book

1:55:06 Speaker 3: in German that tells how to develop the ability to

1:55:09 Speaker 3: see or us. And I checked that book out and

1:55:13 Speaker 3: translated the book from Germany to English. That book happens

1:55:17 Speaker 3: to be the autobiography of the highest degree chair of

1:55:22 Speaker 3: a secret society that was founded in Germany, and the

1:55:26 Speaker 3: author details how the secret society was run and how

1:55:32 Speaker 3: he became the highest degree chair from a regular German

1:55:37 Speaker 3: college student. He had to pass through all the different

1:55:41 Speaker 3: competitions or tests to develop his psychic abilities, including the

1:55:47 Speaker 3: ability to see or us including the abilities to see

1:55:50 Speaker 3: the past and predict the future. And people who are

1:55:55 Speaker 3: interested in this can can also learn about the Elum

1:56:00 Speaker 3: not the card game, the card game that actually predicted

1:56:04 Speaker 3: the nine to eleventh event, the death of Princess Diana,

1:56:09 Speaker 3: and the Twin Tower h and also all of them.

1:56:12 Speaker 2: Wow.

1:56:13 Speaker 3: Yeah, so they are actually able to use a specific

1:56:17 Speaker 3: form a special form of astrology and numerology combined with

1:56:22 Speaker 3: their psychic abilities to see the probabilities of the future,

1:56:27 Speaker 3: and they actually use such abilities in a very bad

1:56:30 Speaker 3: way to control different politicians, business leaders, and those who

1:56:36 Speaker 3: key figures in public office. But that book is actually

1:56:42 Speaker 3: not recommended to to a lot of people to read

1:56:47 Speaker 3: because it's really really disturbing. It contains riographic descriptions on

1:56:52 Speaker 3: how they torture people in their ceremonies or or rituals,

1:56:58 Speaker 3: so sacrifice and yeah, so I'm not going to mention

1:57:00 Speaker 3: the name of the book, but but but you can

1:57:04 Speaker 3: see the kind of people who are pulling streams to

1:57:08 Speaker 3: influence the politicians and business leaders. And they are also

1:57:13 Speaker 3: families involved and different religious leaders involved. So I've been

1:57:18 Speaker 3: trying to figure out who those people are and I'm

1:57:22 Speaker 3: trying to get there. And if if you knows about that.

1:57:26 Speaker 2: I think Bohemian grove places like that.

1:57:29 Speaker 3: Yeah, the deep state and also those people.

1:57:31 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think I think, I think we could

1:57:34 Speaker 1: definitely team up on something like that where I'd love

1:57:38 Speaker 1: to help you expose something like that. Listen, if everything

1:57:43 Speaker 1: in the and and I I took this question from

1:57:49 Speaker 1: someone on who I told that was you're you're coming

1:57:54 Speaker 1: on the show. So I like to get one viewer

1:57:56 Speaker 1: question and the viewer question from our membership. If everything

1:58:03 Speaker 1: in the Deeper Prophecy were true, the audience knew all

1:58:08 Speaker 1: of that was fact, what would you tell them to

1:58:12 Speaker 1: change immediately in their lives?

1:58:15 Speaker 3: Meditate look inside for answers. The way is that when

1:58:20 Speaker 3: you meditate, you not only can increase the accounts or

1:58:24 Speaker 3: the number of stem cells, to improve your health. You

1:58:28 Speaker 3: can also get inside from your hair self directions how

1:58:31 Speaker 3: you can help yourself and others, directions on how you

1:58:35 Speaker 3: can influence or insunit the ideas of spirituality to your friends,

1:58:40 Speaker 3: your family members, and colleagues. And I think meditation is

1:58:44 Speaker 3: actually one of the best ways to not only help

1:58:47 Speaker 3: your health physical health, but also your spiritual well being

1:58:52 Speaker 3: and also to help others to know about the knowledge

1:58:56 Speaker 3: contained in the book. I think that's probably the best,

1:58:59 Speaker 3: the best way to go. Wow.

1:59:02 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, and you know, we have a couple of

1:59:05 Speaker 2: minutes left. I wanted to kind of give you a

1:59:10 Speaker 2: rapid fire if you're.

1:59:12 Speaker 3: Up to it.

1:59:12 Speaker 1: Okay, right, yes, so, and I would love to have

1:59:16 Speaker 1: you back. You know that you have an open door

1:59:18 Speaker 1: to the studio anytime you want to be here. If

1:59:24 Speaker 1: angels exist, if the Watchers exist, the demons exist.

1:59:31 Speaker 3: No, there are imaginations. Well, for example, Hitler has to

1:59:37 Speaker 3: go through the sufferings of the Jewish people he killed.

1:59:40 Speaker 3: To him is actually kind of like a Hellish experience.

1:59:46 Speaker 3: But the demons are actually I would call them spirits

1:59:52 Speaker 3: that are puzzled. They don't know how to really get

1:59:57 Speaker 3: out of the world. They're confused, to spirits. I don't

2:00:01 Speaker 3: call them demons. I call them can fuse spirits. They

2:00:04 Speaker 3: can influence a person negatively, but there are ways to

2:00:09 Speaker 3: get them out. I wouldn't call them demons. I would

2:00:12 Speaker 3: say that there are people who have evil intentions or

2:00:16 Speaker 3: evil free will. They're not demons, okay.

2:00:21 Speaker 2: And if if, if Jesus was one of these beings, right,

2:00:34 Speaker 2: if if if that's if that's all true? Christ Christ?

2:00:38 Speaker 2: If Christ is one of those beings, will there ever

2:00:43 Speaker 2: be another? Or is that it? Like it doesn't It

2:00:49 Speaker 2: doesn't really make sense to me that that only the

2:00:53 Speaker 2: ancient world would get these get these beings? Why why? Why?

2:00:58 Speaker 3: Well? Uh, there are two are to answer the question.

2:01:01 Speaker 3: The first part is that they were in contact uh

2:01:05 Speaker 3: with us, with us in the ancient past. In ancient civilizations,

2:01:09 Speaker 3: for example, during the times of the Muria, they were

2:01:12 Speaker 3: in constant contact with the people on the continent of Themuria.

2:01:17 Speaker 3: Because people were highly spiritual, they were ready to make

2:01:20 Speaker 3: the contact. They were in constant contact. They helped the

2:01:23 Speaker 3: Liamorians to colonize parts of India and also other parts

2:01:27 Speaker 3: of the world, appearing like gods or goddesses. So this

2:01:31 Speaker 3: is why in Indian culture you see a lot of

2:01:33 Speaker 3: goddesses and then yeah, okay, And the other question part

2:01:38 Speaker 3: of the questions that will they come back? Uh? I

2:01:42 Speaker 3: would say yes, because they have come back in the past,

2:01:46 Speaker 3: like in the times of Noah or Enoch and also

2:01:50 Speaker 3: during the distraction to cities southern Gomorrah uh and also

2:01:53 Speaker 3: in the times of Moses and also during the birth

2:01:56 Speaker 3: of Jesus and also the reservation of Christ. They are

2:02:00 Speaker 3: we came back. Will they come back in the future. Definitely, Yes,

2:02:03 Speaker 3: when it's the time to turn our examination, they're going

2:02:08 Speaker 3: to come back to really evaliate how we did.

2:02:11 Speaker 2: And do you think that there will be chaos I

2:02:16 Speaker 2: mean ontological shock by people that aren't ready for this,

2:02:21 Speaker 2: like because let's say eighty percent of the world is

2:02:25 Speaker 2: ready for this test, but twenty percent aren't or is

2:02:29 Speaker 2: there going to be ontological shock?

2:02:32 Speaker 3: Definitely, there will be an ontological shock. They will. They will.

2:02:39 Speaker 3: I think feel confuse about but I think we still

2:02:42 Speaker 3: have a lot of time. So it's time for us

2:02:44 Speaker 3: to really bring the knowledge to as many people as

2:02:48 Speaker 3: possible so that you know, perfect scenario, everyone will be

2:02:51 Speaker 3: ready when that happens. Okay, we still have.

2:02:55 Speaker 2: Another time because I mean let's say let's say all

2:03:00 Speaker 2: of a.

2:03:00 Speaker 1: Sudden in Israel or you know, in that area, all

2:03:07 Speaker 1: of a sudden, something amazing happens and Christ returns, and

2:03:15 Speaker 1: you know, people are are people are going to wonder

2:03:19 Speaker 1: if this is real or if it's fake, and of course,

2:03:23 Speaker 1: you know, I guess they'll find out it's real. But

2:03:25 Speaker 1: that initial shock factor, the shock value, right.

2:03:30 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think some people be shocked, especially people who

2:03:33 Speaker 3: are not ready, like the Wednesday in Africa for example.

2:03:36 Speaker 3: But what about the anti Christ? So so let me

2:03:40 Speaker 3: put it this way. Christ came as the Messiah and

2:03:44 Speaker 3: he is inside indeed the Messiah in the Middle East.

2:03:48 Speaker 3: So he came in the Middle East appearing as the

2:03:51 Speaker 3: Messiah and he is indeed the Messiah. So so I

2:03:57 Speaker 3: wouldn't expect when that happened that someone is going to

2:04:01 Speaker 3: reappear in the Middle East.

2:04:04 Speaker 2: Well, why would he show up in the United States? Well,

2:04:08 Speaker 2: that doesn't make any sense to me.

2:04:10 Speaker 3: If if you read parts of the New Testament of

2:04:14 Speaker 3: four Gospels, it actually describes what's going to happen when

2:04:18 Speaker 3: Christ returns. Okay, so he's actually going to be a

2:04:23 Speaker 3: global phenomenon. Everyone will be able to see that happen.

2:04:30 Speaker 1: Well, the only way that that would be possible is

2:04:33 Speaker 1: if huh you see where I'm going?

2:04:37 Speaker 2: How would that would mean?

2:04:39 Speaker 1: That it would be global, but he would have to

2:04:44 Speaker 1: be localized somewhere and then tap into every mind. Remember

2:04:50 Speaker 1: to tell telepathy to some unfathomable degree.

2:04:55 Speaker 3: Remember a Christ came by himself on Earth. It doesn't

2:05:01 Speaker 3: have to be like this in the future. And there

2:05:04 Speaker 3: are different kinds of eats, and and for each species

2:05:08 Speaker 3: of ets, there are so many of them.

2:05:12 Speaker 2: Whoa man, this has blowing my mind, so all of

2:05:17 Speaker 2: a sudden, everyone would just have him in their head.

2:05:22 Speaker 3: No, it's gonna be physical.

2:05:26 Speaker 2: Oh god, what put it? We're gonna put a pin

2:05:30 Speaker 2: in that because we're gonna have long discussion about that.

2:05:34 Speaker 1: Uh, the next time you next time you hear I

2:05:39 Speaker 1: want to talk to you about just real quick part

2:05:42 Speaker 1: of this rapid fire. Do are is there such thing

2:05:51 Speaker 1: as this galactic federation that has been talked about a

2:05:55 Speaker 1: lot of people speculate that there are multiple species. But

2:06:02 Speaker 1: then guys like High Esched of the Israeli the Space Program,

2:06:08 Speaker 1: He's he's like the equivalent to the director of NASA.

2:06:11 Speaker 1: He said that there's this this galactic federation that Trump

2:06:16 Speaker 1: knows about and the United States is part of that.

2:06:22 Speaker 1: It does did they talk about that and in in

2:06:27 Speaker 1: these in this book? And is that true?

2:06:30 Speaker 3: It's true that there are different species of ets and

2:06:32 Speaker 3: nuclebe galaxy, at least one hundred and forty seven different species.

2:06:37 Speaker 3: And actually Michelle saw the corpse of different etis displayed

2:06:41 Speaker 3: in the Golden Docal in the book as described, and

2:06:45 Speaker 3: there there are different appearances of different etis. And I

2:06:49 Speaker 3: will say that there should be a galactic federation and

2:06:53 Speaker 3: when the this closure happens, or when the Second Coming occurs,

2:06:59 Speaker 3: the and the Hebrews or the Jewish people will have

2:07:02 Speaker 3: to be involved. So there's no way that it wouldn't

2:07:06 Speaker 3: be involved either they're different. And and also I would

2:07:11 Speaker 3: say that there are different roles of different species of ets.

2:07:16 Speaker 3: For example, the Jehovens, the the Evens. Their role is

2:07:19 Speaker 3: to guide us. They have been guiding us throughout history,

2:07:23 Speaker 3: and the role is continuously going to be like as.

2:07:27 Speaker 1: A teaching teachers, teachers, Okay, yeah, okay, And how can

2:07:34 Speaker 1: people find you? How can people get a hold of

2:07:38 Speaker 1: the book.

2:07:40 Speaker 2: I'll put a little QR code right here. I don't

2:07:44 Speaker 2: know what shot we're on right now.

2:07:46 Speaker 1: If we go to the long shot, there'll be a

2:07:49 Speaker 1: QR code that will bring you to Amazon and it

2:07:52 Speaker 1: will bring you to the de Ober Prophecy the Golden

2:07:55 Speaker 1: Planet on Amazon and you can purchase the book there.

2:07:59 Speaker 2: But where can people follow you on online?

2:08:02 Speaker 3: People can find me on Facebook and also x as

2:08:06 Speaker 3: well as LinkedIn. I actually prefer LinkedIn because I can

2:08:10 Speaker 3: I can communicate more effectively about it.

2:08:13 Speaker 2: Awesome again, I'd love to have you back. We only again.

2:08:18 Speaker 2: We scratched a great surface here today, but there's so

2:08:23 Speaker 2: much more of the implications that I feel like I

2:08:27 Speaker 2: could talk to you about this for hours and hours

2:08:29 Speaker 2: and hours. What what is your advice two people in

2:08:37 Speaker 2: the UFO community, if you give them, if you give

2:08:40 Speaker 2: one piece of advice.

2:08:43 Speaker 3: Is that we are all created by the same creator

2:08:47 Speaker 3: and there's actually no need to really create divisions, factions, factions.

2:08:54 Speaker 3: And I think if you read a book to you

2:08:58 Speaker 3: but Prophecy, you're going to realize a lot of the

2:09:01 Speaker 3: things that the can be helpful to your personal life

2:09:06 Speaker 3: as well as your professional life, and also your efforts

2:09:09 Speaker 3: in promoting disclosure in the euthology UFO community.

2:09:13 Speaker 2: So being being the change you want to see.

2:09:17 Speaker 3: Yes, that's right.

2:09:18 Speaker 2: Well, Samuel, what's next for your efforts?

2:09:24 Speaker 3: So I'm going to be starting this Glass Group movement,

2:09:29 Speaker 3: encouraging people to find the answers how to help their

2:09:34 Speaker 3: day to day life, how to be financially ready for

2:09:43 Speaker 3: the future, how to have better health, how to have

2:09:47 Speaker 3: better personal and family lives, and well like helping them

2:09:53 Speaker 3: to gain spiritual knowledge as well. Uh, and using my

2:09:58 Speaker 3: credential as a lawyer in California to really help as

2:10:02 Speaker 3: many people as possible to gain ground in the things

2:10:06 Speaker 3: that they need to know.

2:10:08 Speaker 2: Wow. Wow, And.

2:10:11 Speaker 1: Yeah, you've You've done truly amazing things so far, translating

2:10:16 Speaker 1: this book, creating it, giving it a revival, if you will, right,

2:10:21 Speaker 1: because so Michelle is no longer around, right, and you've

2:10:26 Speaker 1: been tasked or you've tasched yourself with continuing that legacy,

2:10:33 Speaker 1: right and giving it this new revival.

2:10:37 Speaker 2: You've tasked yourself with.

2:10:39 Speaker 3: Let me add on that. Well, you know, I'm going

2:10:42 Speaker 3: to follow the full steps of Gandhi India and doctor

2:10:46 Speaker 3: Martin Luther thirteen in the US in helping to start

2:10:50 Speaker 3: the Annound Weather Resistance movement and what happened to are

2:10:56 Speaker 3: actually pretty interesting, and I don't mind I'm being like that.

2:11:02 Speaker 2: Well, I thank you so much for for doing this

2:11:06 Speaker 2: and and for coming to the studio for this. I

2:11:09 Speaker 2: can't wait to have you back. And I think there's

2:11:13 Speaker 2: a few things that I'd love to work on with you.

2:11:15 Speaker 2: We've talked about that before, and now I think I'm

2:11:18 Speaker 2: kind of, you know, settling in here in the studio,

2:11:21 Speaker 2: and you know, I think now I'm ready to tackle

2:11:27 Speaker 2: a little bit of a larger a larger effort, right,

2:11:32 Speaker 2: something that is documenting, something like a documentary. So maybe

2:11:37 Speaker 2: we can put something together and work on something together

2:11:40 Speaker 2: where it's a documenting this grassroots effort and the creation

2:11:46 Speaker 2: of it. Yeah, So everyone, thank you so much. If

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2:12:29 Speaker 1: Sam again, thank you so much for being here than

2:12:32 Speaker 1: we get to get you to the airport. So this

2:12:34 Speaker 1: has been an amazing, amazing discussion. Again, it's one hundred

2:12:38 Speaker 1: and seventy pages. Get the book or follow Sam and

2:12:43 Speaker 1: what he's doing. It's truly truly worth it in my opinion.

2:12:47 Speaker 2: And again, you're not trying to like be a UFO guru, right,

2:12:52 Speaker 2: You're just trying to get the message across, which I respect.

2:12:55 Speaker 2: All the work that you've done already, and how big

2:13:00 Speaker 2: of a deal it is for working with guys like

2:13:03 Speaker 2: Danny Sheen and the disclosure community. You know it costs

2:13:06 Speaker 2: money to do all these things. It's needed.

2:13:09 Speaker 1: So that's again you know your place, I know mine right,

2:13:14 Speaker 1: So until next time, everyone will see you on the

2:13:17 Speaker 1: other side. Stay humble, stay kind, and most of all,

2:13:20 Speaker 1: stay vigilant.

2:14:00 Speaker 2: Downt