What Really Happened on 9/11? (Ft. 9/11 Revisionist)
Episode 1 features— Norman aka 9/11 Revisionist is a South African truth seeker that started a deep dive into 9/11 during the CV-19 pandemic, by looking at all the narratives put out regarding 9/11 since the formation of the 9/11 “truth” movement in 2005, under the banner of the “Scholars for 9/11 truth”. What he discovered is that the 9/11 “truth” movement consists of COINTELPRO agents that seem to oversee most of the 9/11 “truth” organisations and in 2023 he started confronting the so called “truther talking heads” and found that all his suspicions are true and he’s got the receipts to prove it.
He then started writing about all of this on his Substack, which now boasts numerous interviews and over 170 articles discussing various anomalies with the WTC complex, information the establishment 9/11 truth movement ARE NOT discussing, and on his X profile, he is set on interacting with individuals to help them see how they’ve been bamboozled.
9/11 was an attack on human consciousness, a trauma-based mind control event, where people outsourced their thinking to MSM and the government and those that questioned the narrative, were scooped up by the 9/11 truth movement, to help finance the ongoing 24-year distraction from the truth of what happened on September 11, 2001.
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Speaker 2: Something I've never ever talked about on camera. It's nine
Speaker 2: to eleven.
Speaker 1: I am from the East Coast in Boston, and you
Speaker 1: know that day that was probably one of the first
Speaker 1: first real memories that I ever had memories as when
Speaker 1: I speak on memories, we got pulled out of school.
Speaker 2: I remember my mom looking very dishot.
Speaker 1: I grew up next to an Air Force base in Boston,
Speaker 1: so handsome air Force base.
Speaker 2: They were jets were just.
Speaker 1: Scrambling over our area NonStop. We had to get under
Speaker 1: our desks, they told our teachers made us get under
Speaker 1: our desks.
Speaker 2: It was very very very weird, very very weird.
Speaker 1: And in the morning I was September eleventh, two thousand
Speaker 1: and one, the world changed forever. Almost a quarter century later,
Speaker 1: the shock kind has faded, but I don't think the
Speaker 1: questions have faded.
Speaker 2: One bit. For years, we've been handed, you know.
Speaker 1: An official narrative, coordinated terrorist attack, unforeseen and unstoppable. But
Speaker 1: when you begin to peel back the layers and sift
Speaker 1: through the evidence and listen to experts who were silenced
Speaker 1: or ignored, a much more complicated and far more unsettling
Speaker 1: picture starts to emerge. This new ongoing series is it's
Speaker 1: hard for me, it's really really hard from total cultural
Speaker 1: at times, to do a few things. Re examined the
Speaker 1: events of nine to eleven with an open eye, curiosity
Speaker 1: and courage. I'll seek to investigate topics ranging from the
Speaker 1: intelligence failures or intelligence anomalies that allowed the attack to happen,
Speaker 1: claims of controlled demolition, exotic weaponry or unknown technologies including
Speaker 1: direct energy weapons via Doctor Judy Wood series, the political
Speaker 1: and geopolitical motives behind the disaster, eyewitness accounts that contradict
Speaker 1: the official narrative of the disaster, the missing rubble, unexplained
Speaker 1: heat signatures and impossible physics, the strange dreams, visions and
Speaker 1: premonitions before the attacks by the people in the surrounding area,
Speaker 1: and even the fringe connections some draw between nine to eleven,
Speaker 1: the UFO phenomena and the paranormal. I'm not here to
Speaker 1: give you a predetermined conclusion. I'm not here to spoon
Speaker 1: feed you the answers. What I am here to do
Speaker 1: is to ask the questions others won't follow the evidence
Speaker 1: wherever it leads. With that being said, I'm joined today
Speaker 1: by someone I just met nine to eleven, revisionist Or Norman.
Speaker 2: Thank you for being here, Tyler.
Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. Man, it's really really cool
Speaker 3: having a discussion. I've been following some of your content
Speaker 3: and you've had some really really interesting conversations in interesting
Speaker 3: guests with weird and wonderful things happening. So yeah, it's
Speaker 3: really really cool talking to you today.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a topic I really don't get into often.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know it's probably you know, I I
Speaker 1: know many of the representatives that are on the secrets
Speaker 1: task for us, and this is obviously one that's up
Speaker 1: there with JFK and the UFO topic in general.
Speaker 2: But I think I was I think I've been so.
Speaker 1: Groomed, if you will, to see this subject or this
Speaker 1: day as taboo and to not want to talk about
Speaker 1: it for fear of whatever they might do. Right, whether
Speaker 1: it's copyright, striking your channel, taking the video down, demonetizing
Speaker 1: you the platform, all these things together, the intelligence community
Speaker 1: has really got their finger on the pulse of of
Speaker 1: of these ideas, and it's it's scary.
Speaker 2: How did you? How did someone from South Africa?
Speaker 1: And one of my first big questions about when I
Speaker 1: heard about you, because now I had been tapped to
Speaker 1: interview someone else today ethnically yesterday, and I have scrapped
Speaker 1: that interview after a friend of a mutual friend who
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I won't say it, but a mutual friend was like, dude, don't.
Speaker 1: Do that, Like whatever, whatever, This is the people you
Speaker 1: should These are the people you should at least start
Speaker 1: talking to. How does a guy from South Africa get
Speaker 1: involved in nine to eleven or at least the theories
Speaker 1: of what happened?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 3: Well, my foray into conspiracy started with most people look
Speaker 3: on nine to eleven. I was twenty three years old
Speaker 3: when it happened, so I was already I was menders
Speaker 3: a bit getting into weird and wonderful stuff. And my
Speaker 3: first foray into conspiracy theory was the JFK because that
Speaker 3: was one of the big things. And then in two
Speaker 3: thousand and five, two thousand and six, YouTube came online
Speaker 3: so people could be uploading various things, and then we
Speaker 3: started just watching stuff like that. And I'm not a
Speaker 3: guy who's into bread and circuses, so the.
Speaker 5: Whole let's watch a football game on the weekend or
Speaker 5: things like that, I'm not interested in that. I would
Speaker 5: rather watch a two hour documentary on some sort of
Speaker 5: conspiracy theory than waste my time with a bunch of
Speaker 5: grown men running around on a pitch.
Speaker 1: It.
Speaker 3: Eventually I got into the nine to eleven stuff because
Speaker 3: you had movies like September Clues in Plain Sight, Loose Change,
Speaker 3: what was the other big one that came out in
Speaker 3: New Poul Harbor, and all these various documentaries coming out,
Speaker 3: and all these guys were saying, Okay, there's something wrong
Speaker 3: with their official narrative, so yes, our take on it.
Speaker 3: Eventually I came across Richard Gage and his famous video
Speaker 3: where he's standing with his two cardboard cutouts talking about
Speaker 3: no but the just fell way too fast with regards
Speaker 3: to it, fell fell faster than gravity in a way,
Speaker 3: and I saw that.
Speaker 2: He's the guy who I was supposed to have. Richard
Speaker 2: Dage is the guy who I was supposed to have one,
Speaker 2: so continue, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: And then I saw the third might experiments where they
Speaker 3: were able to cut still, and I thought, okay, fine,
Speaker 3: we've got architects and engineers and stuff. These guys are
Speaker 3: looking into it. They seem above board and they should
Speaker 3: be able to do something about it. And I kind
Speaker 3: of like forgot about it, because that was round about
Speaker 3: two thousand and sixty thousand and seven that these guys
Speaker 3: were making a lot of noise. By twenty eleven, twenty twelve,
Speaker 3: I again stumbled upon some nine to eleven content. Saw
Speaker 3: a presentation given in the Netherlands in twenty twelve the
Speaker 3: Breakthrough Energy Conference, and there was this lady who who said, okay, fine,
Speaker 3: today I'm going to prove to you that the buildings
Speaker 3: turned to dust before they hit the ground. I thought, okay, fine,
Speaker 3: this is batshit crazy, but at least I'm willing to
Speaker 3: listen to both sides of a story. So I listened
Speaker 3: to the conversation or the presentation that she made, and
Speaker 3: she was talking about a how of a lot of
Speaker 3: anomalies and buildings that you don't normally hear about from
Speaker 3: the nine to eleven truth movement. I basically call the
Speaker 3: nine to eleven truth movement the cult that can't count
Speaker 3: past three, because as soon as you look at the
Speaker 3: anomalies with buildings three, four, five, six, the bank is
Speaker 3: Trust building, the Greek Orthodox Church, then in essence nine
Speaker 3: buildings pretty much disappeared due to the events of that day.
Speaker 3: And that was basically it. I thought of, I find
Speaker 3: this lady is bringing information to the table, and if
Speaker 3: she hooks up with these architects and engineer, she's a
Speaker 3: scientist in metal and all of this, then obviously they'll
Speaker 3: be able to sort the stuff out and something should happen.
Speaker 3: Then life went on. Nothing really happened in the nine
Speaker 3: to eleven swear And with the twenty first anniversary, I
Speaker 3: saw a video of university students being interviewed asking what
Speaker 3: big anniversary is coming along, and they didn't know that
Speaker 3: it was the twenty first anniversary of nine to eleven.
Speaker 3: They didn't really know what happened on nine eleven. They
Speaker 3: didn't really know what the mainstream or the government narrative
Speaker 3: was or anything like this, And I thought, oh, how,
Speaker 3: and that kind of like made something in miss snap.
Speaker 3: I then went into debate forums on Facebook, seeing that
Speaker 3: I'm now middle aged of us old people end up
Speaker 3: still on Facebook, and I started debating some people and
Speaker 3: I said, Okay, find these guys know a hell of
Speaker 3: a lot about either the thermite aspect or the nuke
Speaker 3: therma nuke aspect, or the buried nukes or what hellever
Speaker 3: idea that they had. And I then just decided, Okay,
Speaker 3: find if I really want to wrap my head around this,
Speaker 3: and I.
Speaker 6: Really want to get into conversations about nine to eleven,
Speaker 6: then I should revisit everything all the way back with
Speaker 6: a formation of Scholars for nine eleven Truth in two
Speaker 6: thousand and five.
Speaker 3: Because that was the first organized organization that was against
Speaker 3: the government narrative, and worked my way up through twenty
Speaker 3: three years of information being put out on both sides.
Speaker 3: So I read virtually anything and everything that I could find,
Speaker 3: watched numerous documentaries, presentations, all of that, and that then
Speaker 3: in turn got me into writing on my sub stack
Speaker 3: and then also going into the zoom eats with the
Speaker 3: organizations that have a lot of clout in America, and
Speaker 3: I just saw that they couldn't answer the questions that
Speaker 3: I had pertaining to the evidence presented that they don't
Speaker 3: talk about and that's my foray, that's where I'm now.
Speaker 3: And if you actually spend the time of really deep
Speaker 3: diving the twenty four years of disinformation out there, you
Speaker 3: can really easily see that the whole narrative around nine
Speaker 3: to eleven, and then the truth movement that's been put
Speaker 3: into place comes into some sort of sci fi spy
Speaker 3: type novel because people were taken out, people were completely
Speaker 3: land baseded in media and all of that. So there's
Speaker 3: a lot of noise and a lot of orchestrated quintel
Speaker 3: pro operations going on to this day. And even the
Speaker 3: latest installment is Stucker Colson's five part series that's also
Speaker 3: absolute fantastic.
Speaker 2: Wait wait bunk.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there are a lot of disinformation in there.
Speaker 1: Okay, so I want to let's start there because that
Speaker 1: is actually what lit a fire under my ass to
Speaker 1: kind of like get back into trying to figure out
Speaker 1: what happened. Now, I will say Tucker does skate a very.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, like not.
Speaker 1: All.
Speaker 2: I guess you're right.
Speaker 1: He doesn't really talk about too much like the other
Speaker 1: side of it, And the other side of it is
Speaker 1: the fact that if one hundred and ten stories of
Speaker 1: building supposedly came down on itself?
Speaker 2: Where was all the fucking rubble?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 2: Where is all the where's all the desks?
Speaker 1: Where's all the the the the sinks?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Where?
Speaker 2: Where is all that shit?
Speaker 1: And it seems more like when I watched the tapes
Speaker 1: back and again, I'll get into a little bit about
Speaker 1: how I experienced that day when I got pulled out
Speaker 1: of school. There was no Twitter, like, there was no
Speaker 1: independent voices. What you were given was the official narrative
Speaker 1: from Fox, from CNN, from these what you what at
Speaker 1: the time, these very trusted sources, because they were the
Speaker 1: only fucking sources.
Speaker 2: And we didn't know, or I mean some of us did.
Speaker 1: I guess like that that the CIA controls most of
Speaker 1: these these outlets. They have journalists embedded in probably every
Speaker 1: major TV organization and journalistic outlet. So the the CIA
Speaker 1: version of this story. Can you tell us at least
Speaker 1: what your understanding of the officially accepted narrative of nine
Speaker 1: to eleven is?
Speaker 3: Well, the official narrative is two we little planes slammed
Speaker 3: into two massive buildings, and a little bit of jet
Speaker 3: fuel spilled into the building and caused major fires to
Speaker 3: weaken the steel, and then it just collapsed in a
Speaker 3: gravity driven collapse. And if you actually look at the
Speaker 3: if you look at the way the buildings were constructed,
Speaker 3: it's absolutely fascical. But the thing is it was such
Speaker 3: a massive trauma based event that people just outsourced their
Speaker 3: thinking to mainstream media and the government. And what happens
Speaker 3: in a traumatic event and how does people's minds work
Speaker 3: is I want to know what happened? So the first
Speaker 3: answer you've given on the TV and at those at
Speaker 3: that stage, people still pretty much believed in MSM and
Speaker 3: investigative journalism. They thought that, okay, fine, these guys will
Speaker 3: give us the answers, then I don't have to think
Speaker 3: about it. And that's how the narrative got stuck. And
Speaker 3: in those first first weeks, it was just replayed in
Speaker 3: for people and they just said collapse, claps, colapse, colapse, clapse, collapse.
Speaker 3: So it comes back to tell a lie, tell big
Speaker 3: enough and repeated enough, then it becomes the truth. And
Speaker 3: that's where a lot of people got stuck.
Speaker 1: And yeah, a lot of the same tactics are used
Speaker 1: in the UFO world, Like, so that's what I'm seeing.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's almost like they took the playbook from
Speaker 1: the you're like what they do with people in UFOs
Speaker 1: and mass or sightings or experiences, and they it just
Speaker 1: expanded it to a large format silence anyone who disagrees
Speaker 1: deep platform them.
Speaker 2: And at the time, the only like I said, there.
Speaker 1: Was no Twitter, There was no like outlets where you
Speaker 1: could voice your I mean, unless you were going to
Speaker 1: make it move like loose Change, which the first time
Speaker 1: I had ever seen any conspiracy film, and that that
Speaker 1: you couldn't even get that that movie, like that movie
Speaker 1: was was they pulled it off shelves of Blockbuster. They
Speaker 1: pulled it off shelves of video stores. Again, this is
Speaker 1: a very very.
Speaker 2: This is at the time, it's a very analog world.
Speaker 1: It's we haven't quite yet got to that digital age.
Speaker 1: So when I got home from school every day the
Speaker 1: same thing was on the TV.
Speaker 2: It was just videos called the of the.
Speaker 1: Planes hitting over and over and over again, collapse. Maybe
Speaker 1: you got some videos of like the street angles, people
Speaker 1: running running and running and running from this cloud of
Speaker 1: dust that was about to overtake them, and then it
Speaker 1: does overtake them, and then they were all dusty after
Speaker 1: like anyone knows what I'm talking about. That that was
Speaker 1: live at the time, they just played this on a
Speaker 1: on a role and that what we were told was
Speaker 1: for what Islamic. Islamic hijackers took over several planes from
Speaker 1: United ninety three out a logan, which is where I'm at.
Speaker 2: I think a few of them are on a logan if.
Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken. So the hijackers got onto the planes.
Speaker 1: Now people have to think TSA wasn't the way it
Speaker 1: is now. The way TSA is now is a direct
Speaker 1: result of what happened with nine to eleven. So the
Speaker 1: hijackers overtake how many planes was it four or five?
Speaker 3: For four four planes? Four planes that they flight eleven
Speaker 3: into the North tower, flight one seventy five into the
Speaker 3: South tower, flight ninety three into Shanksville, and then flight
Speaker 3: seventy seven for the Pentagon.
Speaker 1: We'll get into that one too, because that so the
Speaker 1: reason we I want to go through this in a
Speaker 1: linear way, and you'll probably end up knowing why. Because
Speaker 1: so what they're telling us on the news is that
Speaker 1: Islamic terrorists that have either ties to Saudi Arabia or
Speaker 1: Bin Laden directly so that you can see the narratives.
Speaker 2: Start to emerge.
Speaker 1: Right within hours, we know who the bad guy is.
Speaker 1: The bad guys are because we find their past.
Speaker 3: Actually it actually wasn't in Within hours, there was a
Speaker 3: newscast to forty five seconds after the second planet the
Speaker 3: South Tower, he mentioned the Soma bin Laden and then
Speaker 3: that is what everybody ran with the whole day.
Speaker 1: Right, Okay, so I was even quicker than I thought. Again,
Speaker 1: I was in third grade when this happened. I was
Speaker 1: in third grade. So again my memory is a little
Speaker 1: foggy when it comes. I'm trying to like piece together
Speaker 1: everything in my in my head, but I remember, all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, they have the passports, so like so
Speaker 1: nothing survives, but we just so happened to have the
Speaker 1: past sports of the paper passports.
Speaker 3: The passport was actually picked up picked up. Before that,
Speaker 3: the buildings disintegrated, and this.
Speaker 1: Is the They're like, this is fucking crazy to me,
Speaker 1: because how the you're going to tell me that jet
Speaker 1: fuel was now when when the this is what at
Speaker 1: least how I understand it as the official narrative, plane
Speaker 1: hits at like the one oh five level maybe no, no, maybe,
Speaker 1: so anything above them you're fucked at that point. I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean, you're just anything above you're fucked. But the
Speaker 1: jet fuel was so hot that it melts the beams
Speaker 1: at that height, and then that's what causes the pancaking right.
Speaker 3: All the way, all the way down eighty floors to
Speaker 3: the bottom come. It's ridiculous that anybody can actually believe that.
Speaker 3: And they actually have a video with thermal is showing
Speaker 3: that there was what seemed to be hot spots at
Speaker 3: the impact sites and nowhere else. So again that just
Speaker 3: proves that it wasn't too hot for the building to handle.
Speaker 1: And then so the structure itself, the World Trade Center,
Speaker 1: was it not constructed to withstand. They are planes hitting
Speaker 1: towers that had happened before it had happened, I believe.
Speaker 3: In a part state building ninety fifties or forties somewhere.
Speaker 1: Yeah, super foggy day, plane hits a building, nothing happens.
Speaker 1: I mean the of course something happens, but the tower
Speaker 1: doesn't collapse on itself in what looked.
Speaker 3: But also also pieces of that bomber fell to the
Speaker 3: ground next to the building and they picked it up
Speaker 3: in the streets. You didn't see that plane didn't just
Speaker 3: melt into the building like a hot knife through butter.
Speaker 3: Nothing fell to the ground.
Speaker 1: Right, and you would expect the worst of it would
Speaker 1: have been maybe like an engine block, an engine coming
Speaker 1: down and like smashing onto like a hundred people. That
Speaker 1: would be fun. That would be terrible. But at that height,
Speaker 1: coming from that that that heavy, that that height, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it's like, uh, that would have been terrible in itself.
Speaker 1: But the way the building comes down now it never
Speaker 1: struck me as weird because I was so young, right,
Speaker 1: but the building comes down, you couldn't have You couldn't
Speaker 1: have staged that better, for absolute if when you really
Speaker 1: look back at it, and you really look at the
Speaker 1: collapse of the two towers, and of course there's so
Speaker 1: much other stuff that we have to get into, but
Speaker 1: when you look at that, you couldn't have happened. It
Speaker 1: could not have happened any cleaner in the way it fell.
Speaker 1: And then with what I mean, everything looks dustified. There's
Speaker 1: there's obviously rubble at ground zero, but I remember they
Speaker 1: had fences that were twelve feet tall with that green
Speaker 1: stuff in between it, so you couldn't see into ground zero.
Speaker 2: I went to ground zero with my father, uh.
Speaker 1: He owned a moving company, and we went there about
Speaker 1: a year later and I'm not saying within a year
Speaker 1: you couldn't see into what was happening, like what what
Speaker 1: what what Ground zero looked like? And if I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 1: I've tried to look back now. Those fences went up
Speaker 1: pretty fucking quickly. They didn't want people to.
Speaker 2: Know what what, what.
Speaker 1: It looked like what they were pulling out, So it
Speaker 1: was a big mystery.
Speaker 3: But the side the site was actually locked down on
Speaker 3: September thirteenth and no no video, no camera, no civilians
Speaker 3: were allowed anywhere near ground zero so that the guys
Speaker 3: could contry the narrative going out. Because even at September twelve,
Speaker 3: when people were still allowed to go there, the main
Speaker 3: question was on ABC. I think it was Peter Jennings
Speaker 3: or somebody who basically mentioned, okay, the main question that
Speaker 3: everybody has is why is there so little rubble? Because
Speaker 3: something that people need to realize, there's three differences when
Speaker 3: it comes to buildings. A building can collapse a gravity
Speaker 3: collapse like we saw in Miyan mob where you can
Speaker 3: see the levels of the building as it's done at
Speaker 3: pancake collapse so you can see the various flaws. Then
Speaker 3: you've got a Then you've got to control demolition using
Speaker 3: kinetic or thermal mechanisms or whatever. And when they blow
Speaker 3: a building to bits, you end up with a rubble pile.
Speaker 3: On average that is twelve and a half percent of
Speaker 3: the original building height. So if you calculate twelve and
Speaker 3: a half percent of one hundred and ten, that gives
Speaker 3: you thirteen point seventy five floors. And if you look
Speaker 3: at the after pictures on September twelve, and even on
Speaker 3: September eleven, when the helicopterwer flying flying over ground zero,
Speaker 3: the rubble pile for the North Tower, and the North
Speaker 3: Tower was positioned right next to Building six. Building six
Speaker 3: is an eight story building. Yeah, right there. On the
Speaker 3: left you've got Building six, and on the right you've
Speaker 3: got what is the remnants of the North Tower where
Speaker 3: sixteen people survived in that clump of rubble, and that.
Speaker 4: If you look at the if you look at the
Speaker 4: building itself or the outer shell of the tower, you
Speaker 4: will see that there are bigger spacings at the.
Speaker 3: Bottom part and the top part is a lot closer,
Speaker 3: and that's the lobby height. That's three stories. These guys
Speaker 3: here are on ground level.
Speaker 2: So ten fours are theoretically missing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, ten floors are missing. And geez again the people
Speaker 3: who would like to sell you on a conventional control
Speaker 3: demolition what they staid, Yes, that's a beautiful, beautiful picture
Speaker 3: because right in the background you've got the remnants of
Speaker 3: Building seven. Building seven again, do your twelve and a
Speaker 3: half percent on the forty seven stories it was, and
Speaker 3: the rubble pile there was only three stories are instead
Speaker 3: of around about six and a half or seven that
Speaker 3: you would expect. And Building six itself, that hole in
Speaker 3: the middle of it was empty. It was It was
Speaker 3: like a cookie cutter where you just scooped out the
Speaker 3: middle of it. And right next to the North Tower
Speaker 3: and the South Tower you had a twenty two story
Speaker 3: Marriott Hotel, the Building three, and pretty much everything of
Speaker 3: that building disappeared in except a small little block of it.
Speaker 3: And fourteen people survived in that building as well. And
Speaker 3: that's something that the nine to eleven truth movement don't
Speaker 3: really talk about because it completely blows their narrative out
Speaker 3: of the water because if it was thermite and bombs
Speaker 3: and all of that kind of stuff, these sixteen survivors
Speaker 3: in the North Tower would have even been deafened. They
Speaker 3: would have got burned by the thermite flashes. They could
Speaker 3: have been blinded by bright flashes going off and all
Speaker 3: of this, and the statements that they made is when
Speaker 3: the building was unraveling, they heard a sound of a
Speaker 3: freight train coming at them. They don't mention anything about
Speaker 3: hearing big explosions or loud booms or anything. And I
Speaker 3: would suggest anybody who wants to deep dive and hear
Speaker 3: the testimonies of these guys who survived it is look
Speaker 3: for the two thousand and six documentary The Miracle of Stairwell,
Speaker 3: be that and just listened to what they explained. They
Speaker 3: explained that they were inside this building, they heard the rumble,
Speaker 3: they heard the sound of a freight train coming at them,
Speaker 3: they felt a levitation effect, and then everything went dark.
Speaker 3: All of a sudden, it went silent. The next moment
Speaker 3: the they saw array of sunlight coming through. Now imagine this,
Speaker 3: you were on the sixth floor of one hundred and
Speaker 3: ten story building five hundred thousand tons, you expecting to
Speaker 3: be stuck in there for weeks for them to get
Speaker 3: rid of all the rebel. In the next moment, you
Speaker 3: see a ray of sunlight coming out and then around
Speaker 3: about an hour or two later, the guys free you
Speaker 3: from where you are and there's nothing above.
Speaker 2: You, nothing in sunlight.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's.
Speaker 1: Huh so one hundred and four stories above her the right,
Speaker 1: that's what they're saying is one hundred and whatever floors
Speaker 1: above her come down. But they survive it. And not
Speaker 1: only did they survive it, but they're out within a
Speaker 1: couple hours of of the of the actual attack. And
Speaker 1: if I don't remember, I mean, Jesus Christ, a hurricane,
Speaker 1: I'm not a hurricane. An earthquake in Nepal trap people
Speaker 1: in a hotel for for like two days. They couldn't
Speaker 1: get them out, and that's like a ten ten story hotel,
Speaker 1: and that is really bizarre.
Speaker 2: I never thought about that. So they felt it a
Speaker 2: lavitating of that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was a huge, massive wind. And the one
Speaker 3: gentleman that has testified about this numerous times, and you
Speaker 3: can find many interviews with him is the F and
Speaker 3: D Y firefighter Mickey Cross, And they even interviewed him
Speaker 3: last year with the twenty fourth anniversary where he recounts
Speaker 3: it again, and what he basically states is when he
Speaker 3: heard the rumbling, he just curled up into a small
Speaker 3: ball and the next moment, he felt his his helmet
Speaker 3: starting to lift off, and he basically pulled it down
Speaker 3: and just crunched down into a small little ball and
Speaker 3: just said, okay, fine, if I die now, it's got
Speaker 3: to be quick. He's the gentleman that's talked about it.
Speaker 3: But there's another gentleman and his name is sorry, he's
Speaker 3: he All. I might be getting the pronunciation wrong, but
Speaker 3: Pascal Bouschelly, also known as the nine to eleven Surfer,
Speaker 3: and this gentleman was coming down in stairwell B from
Speaker 3: the eighty fourth floor, and somewhere in the fortieth forties
Speaker 3: they met They found a firefighter coming up in the stairwell.
Speaker 3: The firefighter said, okay, guys, when you get to the
Speaker 3: twenty third floor, there is a lift that's still working,
Speaker 3: so you can take that lift and go down. And
Speaker 3: the people with him from his office, they just kept
Speaker 3: going down, going down. When they got to the twenty
Speaker 3: third floor, they said, oh, we're going to take the lift.
Speaker 3: They said no. They went down another floor. When they
Speaker 3: got to the twenty second all of a sudden, that's
Speaker 3: when the building started shaking and rumbling. The people with
Speaker 3: him ran into the twenty second floor, and he decided
Speaker 3: to jump down to the next ledge in the stair
Speaker 3: well and he called up into a small little ball
Speaker 3: and he then said, well, you've got this rumbling, it's
Speaker 3: the sound of a freight train coming at me. In
Speaker 3: the next moment, I just started falling through the air
Speaker 3: and he ended up landing on a ledge that was
Speaker 3: run about three four stories high. And when he woke up,
Speaker 3: and you've got to remember, he's on the twenty second floor,
Speaker 3: and when he woke up and you looked up, there
Speaker 3: was blue sky above him and it was kind of
Speaker 3: like trapped on the spirch where he was. The guys
Speaker 3: had to bring ladders and ropes and everything to get
Speaker 3: him out of there, and he had a broken ankle.
Speaker 3: And I call that when Yeah, at eight o'clock that night,
Speaker 3: he got home to his pregnant wife and they've actually
Speaker 3: got a video. I think it's a brother that was
Speaker 3: there that video, Pascal being delivered via it's actually to
Speaker 3: the house. And it took him a number of years
Speaker 3: to work through the strauma because he's the only guy
Speaker 3: out of his whole whole office that survived. So you
Speaker 3: can you can go look for a great interview it's
Speaker 3: an hour and a half interview with him and his wife.
Speaker 3: I think it was published on YouTube in twenty twenty
Speaker 3: three and you'll be able to find it. So and
Speaker 3: then numerous interviews with him. I think he also wrote
Speaker 3: a book. So just search nine to eleven Surfer or
Speaker 3: nine to eleven miracle Man to his testimony as well.
Speaker 3: He's one of two civilians along with fourteen first first
Speaker 3: responders that survived in the North Tower.
Speaker 1: Why, Okay, I guess the looming the looming question has
Speaker 1: to be no matter what now, I don't let's I
Speaker 1: kind of want to like grow past the idea of
Speaker 1: the how it happened, but the why why, if the
Speaker 1: official narrative is to be believed, why didn't the FBI
Speaker 1: or the CIA or anyone, I mean Conda Lieza Rice
Speaker 1: sends a memo on August ninth saying that Ben Lauden
Speaker 1: is going to try us to like we know, not
Speaker 1: only all of the hijackers, but John Brennan, the CIA director,
Speaker 1: brought them here and then let them go back, go
Speaker 1: back and forth because he wanted people on the inside
Speaker 1: of al Qaeda.
Speaker 2: Right, So if we're to believe the official narrative, Why
Speaker 2: does this happen?
Speaker 1: Is it just to bring us into a war and
Speaker 1: a twenty year war with Afghanistan for because we're told
Speaker 1: they have weapons of masterstr I mean, it's all fucking
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense to me.
Speaker 2: Why did why? The why?
Speaker 3: Look, look, everybody wants to jump to the wy, but
Speaker 3: we've got to remember none to eleven was a crime
Speaker 3: that was committed, and you've got to start any criminal
Speaker 3: investigation and you've got to really understand what happened in
Speaker 3: order to get over to how it happened and then
Speaker 3: why it happened and what the motivation was. And a
Speaker 3: lot of people want to jump to that the why,
Speaker 3: and there's a lot of people who've pretty much sorted
Speaker 3: out the why, but the biggest contentious issue is what
Speaker 3: actually happened and the technology that was put into play,
Speaker 3: because it was a demonstration to people in the know
Speaker 3: that Hi, guys, we've got this, we've we're doing this
Speaker 3: on live TV and the whole world is too stupid
Speaker 3: to even realize what we've just done.
Speaker 2: Okay, And that's what I was going to say. Is
Speaker 2: it plausible that.
Speaker 1: Because the way I've always been taught to investigate something,
Speaker 1: or you got two sides of the story, right. The
Speaker 1: truth is somewhere in between. So we got the official narrative, right,
Speaker 1: the narrative they want us to believe. Right, planes definitely
Speaker 1: fucking hit the building unless they have some way of
Speaker 1: hologram faking, I mean, which I wouldn't put it past them.
Speaker 1: Like we know, the technology does exist today, didn't exist
Speaker 1: in twosan and one.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: So could they have figured out, oh shit, they're about
Speaker 1: to fucking they're about to hit these towers with some
Speaker 1: planes and they're about to so they know they the
Speaker 1: intelligence community finds out all this shit, right CIA Alex Station,
Speaker 1: the memo August ninth, They know it's about to happen,
Speaker 1: but they step back and they let it happen. For
Speaker 1: I mean, we see that that stock options were taken out,
Speaker 1: you know people, it's it's if you start looking at
Speaker 1: that the finances right follow the money kind of thing.
Speaker 2: Dick Cheney's were missing trillions of.
Speaker 1: Dollars the next day nine to eleven app So if
Speaker 1: you look at all that, could the intelligence community have said, Okay,
Speaker 1: it's gonna happen.
Speaker 2: We're gonna let it happen, and we might even might
Speaker 2: even help it. Yeah, well we might even help it.
Speaker 1: With the director jennyg Weapon, make sure that those fucking
Speaker 1: towers come down. If they're gonna hit them, make it count.
Speaker 1: And that seems to me like maybe what happened. It's
Speaker 1: a little bit of a mix of both.
Speaker 3: In a way. Look, nine to eleven wasn't planned over
Speaker 3: a weekend. It was a couple of decades in the making.
Speaker 3: And if there's one particularly very well researched documentary that
Speaker 3: you should watch, which I state is your crash course
Speaker 3: into nine to eleven, and that's nine to eleven Alchemy
Speaker 3: Facing Reality because it goes into all the various technologies
Speaker 3: UFO links all of that and showing you the patents
Speaker 3: that the US Navy's got, the CIA, the FBR, all
Speaker 3: of that. And where I'm really disappointed in the UFO
Speaker 3: field is that none of them, and this is Stephen Greer,
Speaker 3: Mike Burrow, a whole bunch of different guys in the
Speaker 3: UFO field are gas lighting the followers, the supporters, and
Speaker 3: they pretty much defrauding their supporters out of their donations,
Speaker 3: just like the nine to eleven Truth movement is doing.
Speaker 3: Because when you really deep dive and going to the
Speaker 3: go onto sub stacks search for nine eleven planes research.
Speaker 3: This is a gentleman out of the UK who's gotten
Speaker 3: all the Foyer requests pertaining to the the NTSB, the
Speaker 3: f all that kind of stuff. And when you really
Speaker 3: deep dive into the planes, you would find that all
Speaker 3: four planes or alleged planes that crashed that day were
Speaker 3: still in the air after they allegedly crashed. And it
Speaker 3: was not CGI, and it was not anything remote controlled drones,
Speaker 3: it was not switched planes or anything. It was three
Speaker 3: D volumetric projection technology that was in play that the
Speaker 3: Navy has got patent's going back all the way to
Speaker 3: the nineteen seventies, and a lot of the UFO guys,
Speaker 3: especially this year, have been changing their narratives where they
Speaker 3: are now bringing in the what if the UFOs we
Speaker 3: see are actual holograms and nine to eleven alchemy facing
Speaker 3: reality puts it nicely into play with all the patents,
Speaker 3: the various articles that were written as far back as
Speaker 3: two thousand and one pertaining to the Navy and the
Speaker 3: US military wanting to have some sort of holographic projection
Speaker 3: that they could use in the Middle East to project
Speaker 3: a picture of allah and have their adversaries run away.
Speaker 3: And once you look and study basic flight physics, you
Speaker 3: will find that a commercial jet, even a military plane
Speaker 3: that's painted to look like a plane or adrona what
Speaker 3: cannot fly at the speeds that was recorded on nine
Speaker 3: to eleven without breaking up. It is impossible for plane
Speaker 3: to fly, or a commercial sized jet to fly at
Speaker 3: six hundred miles per hour at about seven hundred feet.
Speaker 3: And your real world example to understand that and see
Speaker 3: that is on November twelve, two thousand and one, you
Speaker 3: had flight five eight seven out of New York crash
Speaker 3: in New York in New York City because it got
Speaker 3: stuck behind some turbulence of a plane in front of it.
Speaker 3: It started flying flying to the guy tried to overcorrect
Speaker 3: and he broke up the tail tail section of the plane.
Speaker 3: As soon as that's gone, the plane falls out of
Speaker 3: the sky due to the thickness of the air and
Speaker 3: the molecules it ripped off the engines of the plane
Speaker 3: and they actually hit the ground before the planes. Even
Speaker 3: the impact dynamics of flight one seventy five, because there's
Speaker 3: so much the video on that, up to fifty five
Speaker 3: of them, it just shows impossible physics with regards to that,
Speaker 3: and a number of pilots came out and talked about
Speaker 3: the fact that what we saw that day is impossible.
Speaker 3: But people took pictures, they took video, they saw it,
Speaker 3: and they heard it. But it was a real time illusion.
Speaker 3: So the UFO guys who've been waiting for Project Bluebeam
Speaker 3: all these years to happen after Serge among Us talked
Speaker 3: about this in the seventies, well, guys, you all saw
Speaker 3: it on nine to eleven. You guys just don't want
Speaker 3: to talk about it.
Speaker 2: See you're saying that those planes didn't exist, really.
Speaker 3: And there's actual government proof from the eties B in
Speaker 3: the FIA proving all four planes were still in the
Speaker 3: air well passed the alleged impact times. All the receipts
Speaker 3: are on nine to eleven Planes Research substack, and a
Speaker 3: lot of the work that's gone into nine to eleven
Speaker 3: Alchemy facing Reality is in that documentary from nine to
Speaker 3: eleven Planes Research. Official documents that have been released over
Speaker 3: the last twenty four years.
Speaker 2: I can't even wrap my head around that.
Speaker 3: But we saw it on TV, and it's got to
Speaker 3: be true.
Speaker 1: It's got to be true, right, gotta be true. We
Speaker 1: saw I watched it happen. It's not so probably, dude,
Speaker 1: I called, I made a fuck. I was a paperboy
Speaker 1: at the time. I clipped I have somewhere at my
Speaker 1: parents house, at my dad's house, I should say, Mom's
Speaker 1: no longer with us. I cut out every single front
Speaker 1: page of the paper, like every single day and put
Speaker 1: it in a scrap book.
Speaker 2: God damn, that probably would be worth.
Speaker 3: Some worth, will be some with some bucks. Man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean those are like legitimate but okay, so
Speaker 1: holy shit, I've never heard anyone say that in my life.
Speaker 3: So no. Wait, Actually there was a gentleman called Dr
Speaker 3: Morgan Reynolds. He's still alive. I had an interview with
Speaker 3: him on the fourth of July this year. You can
Speaker 3: go on to his website, No More Games dot Net
Speaker 3: and interview him please, because he's the only man that
Speaker 3: has actually taken the government to court stating that the
Speaker 3: Nest impact plane studies of bullshit. And John Leah you
Speaker 3: might have heard of John Lea May He wrote a
Speaker 3: for David stating everything that was wrong with official narrative.
Speaker 3: Our plane can't fly that fast, how the impact dynamics
Speaker 3: is complete and utter bunk. And he basically breaks it
Speaker 3: down for you for anybody with a working brain that's
Speaker 3: not going to fall back onto their cognitive dissonance or
Speaker 3: playing the game of pre co of just just not
Speaker 3: wanting to look at the evidence, and they explain it.
Speaker 3: But unfortunately Dr Morgan Reynolds when he came out with
Speaker 3: that in two thousand and seven, he got ostracized by
Speaker 3: the nine to eleven Truth movement. So if you go
Speaker 3: on if you want to support Architects for an Engineer
Speaker 3: Truth with the Richard Gage and his cronies, if you
Speaker 3: go onto their petition, they've got vetting processes on there
Speaker 3: that states that two of the main vetting processes is
Speaker 3: the person is not allowed to mention anything about no
Speaker 3: planes and the person is not allowed to mention anything
Speaker 3: about doctor Judy Wood. Because when you sign up, you
Speaker 3: give them your name, surname, phone number, and your email
Speaker 3: address and then they go search your online history and
Speaker 3: then decide whether or not you're good enough to be
Speaker 3: on the group. And when you go into the little
Speaker 3: echo chambers and you want to mention something like this,
Speaker 3: you immediately get get kicked out. Also, when it gets
Speaker 3: to the evidence of doctor Wood, she's been on an
Speaker 3: official blocklist on Wikipedia since twenty ten. Now, Wikipedia is
Speaker 3: one of the biggest CIA, Mossad, whatever intelligence agency out
Speaker 3: there who wants to control some sort of narrative will
Speaker 3: make sure that they've got their disinfo on there. But
Speaker 3: one person who's not allowed there is Dr Wood. You
Speaker 3: can go on to any nine to eleven truther with
Speaker 3: Wikipedia page, go insert some links to her website or
Speaker 3: write about information, and that will be scrapped within ours.
Speaker 2: That's crazy, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: So Judy would doctor Judy Wood is, let's talk about
Speaker 1: some of these people. Who is Richard Gage? Well, why
Speaker 1: would he have any expertise in this?
Speaker 3: Well, his whole story is he was driving down the
Speaker 3: road and then he heard some sort of guy on
Speaker 3: coast to coast radio talking about how the government narrative
Speaker 3: isn't correct, and he was mentioning something about buildings evident
Speaker 3: that all of a sudden gave him the whole wuha
Speaker 3: that he's now got to get into this. But we've
Speaker 3: got to rewind a bit because in two thousand and five,
Speaker 3: the first organization, and that was started by a gentleman
Speaker 3: called Jim Fetzer and Stephen E. Jones Stephenie Jones was
Speaker 3: a nuclear physicist or something like that. Brigham and Young University,
Speaker 3: worked at Los Alamos Labs and all of this kind
Speaker 3: of stuff. These two guys started Scholars for Nine to
Speaker 3: eleven Truth in two thousand and five, and then they
Speaker 3: roped in a whole bunch of scholars and people looking
Speaker 3: into nine to eleven and it was a sort of
Speaker 3: a honeypot, if you can call it back, like Stephen
Speaker 3: Grier's disclosure project, so that they could keep tabs on
Speaker 3: all the movers and shakers and people who might be
Speaker 3: able to blow the lid off of the cover up.
Speaker 3: And then what happened is Stephenie Jones came with this
Speaker 3: whole little thermi dust sample study of his and Dr
Speaker 3: Wood basically told him no, but and they had it
Speaker 3: to and fro Stephen Jones would write a paper stating something,
Speaker 3: and then Dr Wood would write a counter paper to that,
Speaker 3: and that's when the mud slinging kind of thing started
Speaker 3: and force, and by two thousand and six, Scholars for
Speaker 3: nine eleven Truth kind of like disbanded. Dr Wood met
Speaker 3: Dr Morgan Reynolds and a bunch of other people and
Speaker 3: they decided can find these guys have got some sort
Speaker 3: of weird agenda. And by two thousand and seven, Dr
Speaker 3: Wood found a solicitor and Dr Morgan Reynolds founder a solicitor,
Speaker 3: and they each submitted a quest for correction tost on
Speaker 3: the net report, stating that the National Institute for Standards,
Speaker 3: the main body that investigated what happened at the World
Speaker 3: Trade Center now was tasked with figuring out why the
Speaker 3: buildings collapsed. But in the ten thousand paget report, they
Speaker 3: only cover the events after the airplane shaped holes were
Speaker 3: created and up to the initiation of collapse. So the
Speaker 3: whole Nest report as it stands is fraudulent because it
Speaker 3: never explained what happened, and that's what they were tasked
Speaker 3: to do. So doctor Morgan Reynolds and doctor Woods saw
Speaker 3: the mistakes that were made in these reports and they
Speaker 3: submitted a request for correction that kind of like made
Speaker 3: them whistleblowers from there under the Data Information Act because
Speaker 3: it was fraudulent data that they were giving the people.
Speaker 3: They could then sue the subcontractors, the twenty three subcontractors
Speaker 3: who were writing these reports, and doctor Wood took it
Speaker 3: as far as the US Supreme Court. She initially filed
Speaker 3: in two thousand and seven, but it was under seal,
Speaker 3: so she couldn't advertise or talk about it in public.
Speaker 3: And about a month or two after she initially submitted
Speaker 3: her q TIM whistleblower case, then all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: Architects for Engineered Truth's website popped up and they were
Speaker 3: talking about thermite, molten metal and all of this kind
Speaker 3: of stuff that's their main selling points. They too ended
Speaker 3: up submitting a request for correction to NEST, but there
Speaker 3: was no mention of thermite or molten metal in their
Speaker 3: request for correction. So that already is a very very
Speaker 3: important point because to this day this is still what
Speaker 3: they talk about right now. After they all of a
Speaker 3: sudden popped up. Then in two thousand and nine, doctor
Speaker 3: who went to the US Supreme Court, the US Supreme
Speaker 3: Court judge basically an intimation said, look, you've got merit
Speaker 3: here or whatever, but I'm not going to listen to
Speaker 3: your case. So that's what this U Supreme Court can do.
Speaker 3: They can or can't listen to your stuff. But that
Speaker 3: it wasn't dismissed on due to merit because it had merit.
Speaker 7: But the guy basically stated that look like, I'm not
Speaker 7: going to listen to this because this is like, yeah,
Speaker 7: directed and knows about this, I mean.
Speaker 3: And at that stage they will remember.
Speaker 8: It was a major thing in the media where the
Speaker 8: guys basically said that anybody that dares question the official
Speaker 8: government narrative is is a prior to to to the
Speaker 8: memory of the people that lost their lives.
Speaker 3: It was such a psychological operation even that was carried
Speaker 3: through the media by how dare you question the government?
Speaker 3: We won't lie to you how And and that is
Speaker 3: also that was so powerful out of the slogan never
Speaker 3: forget what should you not forget? Not forget the trauma,
Speaker 3: because that's what they based it on. And once you
Speaker 3: you can separate yourself from that trauma, then then it's
Speaker 3: a lot easier. And that's why you'll find that a
Speaker 3: lot of the people who look into nine to eleven,
Speaker 3: who write books about it or aren't American because we
Speaker 3: are not so emotionally invested in it. We weren't so
Speaker 3: traumatized because of it, because Amber, do you know what they.
Speaker 1: Had us do every single day for like everything, I
Speaker 1: might be I don't know exactly how long it went
Speaker 1: on every single day at nine to eleven am. We
Speaker 1: would have to stand in school for a moment of
Speaker 1: silence and in remembrance, little little kids, little fucking kids
Speaker 1: in third grade, in third grade, I mean in kindergarten.
Speaker 2: They were doing it too, they were.
Speaker 1: It has all the makings of some sort of psychological operation.
Speaker 1: When you stand back, they're repeating the same narrative. Anyone
Speaker 1: who questions that narrative as alsostrized, right, and you and
Speaker 1: you're fundamentally bleeding it into the minds of those like
Speaker 1: those people like myself who even though I talk about UFOs,
Speaker 1: I talk about uh, directed energy weapons, I talk about
Speaker 1: the government conspiracy, no one wants to link it all
Speaker 1: together and say, wait a second, Huh that seems odd.
Speaker 3: Same exact fucking thing.
Speaker 2: And I'm the disclosure project happens a month or two before.
Speaker 1: Nine to eleven, right, that they wrangle up all these
Speaker 1: people who have all this knowledge.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: And and then you start putting the dates together, and
Speaker 1: you're like, wait a second, but does something doesn't just
Speaker 1: something doesn't add up here. It has all the makings
Speaker 1: of a psychological operation. Repeat discredit, repeat discredit, right, and
Speaker 1: then we're in a We're in a twenty year war
Speaker 1: where we're American, where people were so pissed, people were
Speaker 1: so fucking pissed, so angry, so scared that they gave
Speaker 1: up some of their rights with the Patriot Act, and
Speaker 1: they had their eighteen year old boys signing up to
Speaker 1: go fight a war against people We had no fucking
Speaker 1: idea that were involved.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So what why that? The why is? What does
Speaker 2: it for me? It actually me it makes my blood boil.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm sorry to tell you this, but the way
Speaker 3: that the rest of the world looks at America, you
Speaker 3: guys are the terrorists. You guys are the guys with
Speaker 3: this bloody ego going in everywhere, causing shit where you're
Speaker 3: not welcome or don't have a fighting the whole aspect,
Speaker 3: and it was all about about power and control. And
Speaker 3: you guys were also used to advance the interest of
Speaker 3: a certain little place. Yeah, and it's been now open
Speaker 3: opened up as well. Now also at that stage America
Speaker 3: was was was on the looming into a recession as well.
Speaker 3: And unfortunately, America's economy is very reliant on your war machine.
Speaker 3: Because if the war machine isn't ticking over so many,
Speaker 3: so many industries are going to see their asses.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I can absolutely agree with that.
Speaker 3: And how many thousands of people are are employed by
Speaker 3: by the military or or subcontractors building weapons, building the clothes,
Speaker 3: the shoes, the the tanks to this that that that
Speaker 3: it's okay, I mean just thumbsuck. Maybe a quarter of
Speaker 3: of of of the the country is dependent on on
Speaker 3: on the U S war machine.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, And when that is not, like you said,
Speaker 1: when that's not turning profits, not being made profit is
Speaker 1: the bottom line, and it's it's I think it's just
Speaker 1: fucking wild to think that that's some sort of false
Speaker 1: flag operation happened, right, right, not just happened, but happened
Speaker 1: in the heart of the United States, New York City, right,
Speaker 1: the city that never the fucking city keeps feed me
Speaker 1: an ambient jay Z right whatever. But it seems like
Speaker 1: we're all given some ambient that day and just made
Speaker 1: to to forget what happened because it was so psychologically
Speaker 1: traumatic watching it over and over and over and over.
Speaker 1: It just made people angry and just also probably wasn't
Speaker 1: fun to be a Musslim in the United States in two.
Speaker 3: But also at the same time is the thing is
Speaker 3: just imagine in your city where where you live. What
Speaker 3: is the biggest building or the tallest building in.
Speaker 2: Your city or the John Hancock Building.
Speaker 3: Okay, how many floors?
Speaker 2: Ah, Jesus, probably only like sixty to sixty to eighty maybe.
Speaker 3: Okay, So next time you there, go stand next to
Speaker 3: that building and look up, and then again imagine that
Speaker 3: building without use explosions or major flashes of light from thermite.
Speaker 3: Because remember, go and watch any little video of a thermite. Thermite,
Speaker 3: it's a experiment. It's usually like a cup of thermite,
Speaker 3: and it makes such a huge fire show. Imagine the
Speaker 3: calculations that the guys have given is you would need
Speaker 3: twenty nine thousand metric tons of thermite for each tower
Speaker 3: to sever the columns. Now that's going to be one
Speaker 3: hell of a fucking fire show. Dude. Oh we didn't
Speaker 3: see any bright light or flashes, and we didn't hear
Speaker 3: any loud booms going down New Year rumbling with that building.
Speaker 3: Now just go stand next to that eighty story building
Speaker 3: and just imagine this thing is going to unravel in
Speaker 3: less than ten seconds. That is that is new physics.
Speaker 3: That's new physics.
Speaker 2: That how did the building come down.
Speaker 3: Between nine and twelve seconds? That's that. No, no, no,
Speaker 3: a hour after they were hit. But the physical disintegration
Speaker 3: of the buildings was between nine and twelve seconds. And
Speaker 3: if you if you stood on top of one of
Speaker 3: the twin towers and you dropped the bowling ball, it
Speaker 3: would take twelve seconds to hit the ground. And those
Speaker 3: buildings disappeared faster than that.
Speaker 2: No fucking way.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Wow, So let me ask you, let me ask you
Speaker 2: a question. How far up does this go? Dick Cheney Bush, Yeah,
Speaker 2: Dick Cheney.
Speaker 3: It's a real mixed mix and match. Dick Cheney obviously
Speaker 3: knew something about it, and and the bunch of other
Speaker 3: guys were were tossed with with covering it up the whole,
Speaker 3: the whole dancing Israeli's. They are Patsy's to push push.
Speaker 2: The okay for anyone who doesn't know, Yeah, for anyone
Speaker 2: who doesn't know.
Speaker 1: Lady she sees a bunch of a bunch of people
Speaker 1: kind of like celebrating, and the FBI picks that van up.
Speaker 1: About five hours later, they arrest the people. They find
Speaker 1: out that they're all all Israeli.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're all Israeli, and they have connections to intelligence.
Speaker 3: And they were they were arrested, they were held for
Speaker 3: a short while and they were carded out back to Israel.
Speaker 3: So what are you saying that that is they were patsies?
Speaker 3: Just they your nine to eleven Lee Harvey Oswald to
Speaker 3: give you a narrative with regards to that, because if
Speaker 3: you go back into the the Israeli Israeli art students
Speaker 3: as well, and the name gelatine when you you do
Speaker 3: a little bit of deeper research into a gelatine is
Speaker 3: another name that that's given for for the stuff that
Speaker 3: they use for holographic projection as well. So that's why
Speaker 3: I say go and watch nine eleven Alchemy Facing Reality,
Speaker 3: because it goes through all of this. Why would if
Speaker 3: everybody is going on about Israel edit Israel that Israel did,
Speaker 3: why would they still be articles about these Israeli art
Speaker 3: students on the New York Times that was written at
Speaker 3: that time. They would basically take take it away. It's
Speaker 3: it's it's a narrative. You've got to think of it
Speaker 3: this way. Do you think the people that planned nine
Speaker 3: to eleven forgot to plan a cover up?
Speaker 9: Now?
Speaker 3: Then what would that cover up look like? And if
Speaker 3: you read doctor Wood's book or listen to some of
Speaker 3: the presentations. She basically mentions that what they did is
Speaker 3: they orchestrated this, and then obviously they left some easter
Speaker 3: eggs for researchers to find, and that would be enough
Speaker 3: to keep people up to a certain point and think, okay, fine,
Speaker 3: now we've got an explanation and they won't go any deeper.
Speaker 3: It's exactly the same with old Lucky Larry that had
Speaker 3: these little breakfast at the top of of the towers
Speaker 3: every day with his tenants. And he was on the
Speaker 3: phone with Nettanyo every Sunday and he was called up
Speaker 3: and said, hey, man, don't you want to buy the
Speaker 3: twenty towers because the Port Authority is looking for somebody
Speaker 3: to get become the new tenant. And he then borrowed
Speaker 3: like ten million dollars from somewhere to put a down
Speaker 3: payment on it, and then a couple of weeks later
Speaker 3: he got a nine to eleven happened and he had
Speaker 3: a paid day or four and a half billion dollars.
Speaker 3: But he mentioned that in that one interview where he
Speaker 3: was talking about, yeah, we had to pull the people
Speaker 3: out of Building six. So now everybody's going on it
Speaker 3: must be a controlled demolition. But there's a very important
Speaker 3: anomaly with Building seven that does not get mentioned by anybody.
Speaker 2: What is that?
Speaker 3: Okay, let's do do it?
Speaker 2: Well? Hold on, hold on, hold on, because I did,
Speaker 2: I did. I did. Just write something down and circle it.
Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken where the World Trade Centers were,
Speaker 1: where it stood the water, there's a there's essentially.
Speaker 2: A dam right there.
Speaker 3: Right there's the Hudson River.
Speaker 1: So so if one hundred and ten stories of building
Speaker 1: came down on that, you'd expect what the dam to
Speaker 1: break right now.
Speaker 3: They built they built a bathtub around the two twin
Speaker 3: towers because they needed to go down.
Speaker 2: I wasn't that affected precisely.
Speaker 3: The thing is also Building six, next to the north
Speaker 3: tower was an eighth story building that had that cookie
Speaker 3: cut out of it. And when the controlled demolition guys
Speaker 3: came in to start clearing the rubble, the guys were
Speaker 3: too afraid to use explosives because they were afraid that
Speaker 3: they're going damaged the bathtub retaining wall that keeps the
Speaker 3: water of the Hudson River out of it. So they
Speaker 3: were actually used cables to pull the remnants of that
Speaker 3: building down. So if you want to talk about pull it.
Speaker 3: The real pullet of nine to eleven was Building six,
Speaker 3: because Lucky Larry just dropped that little thing in there
Speaker 3: to have people think about it. Now, Building seven. If
Speaker 3: you look at something like the Seattle Kingdome controlled demolition
Speaker 3: that was done a number of years ago. That building
Speaker 3: weighed one hundred and fifty thousand tons, and when that
Speaker 3: controlled demolition happened, it registered a two point three on
Speaker 3: the rector scale.
Speaker 2: Okay, so how that seismic activity.
Speaker 3: So that and with seismic activity, and in a seismograph,
Speaker 3: when the wave comes in, they basically record what is
Speaker 3: a S wave and a P wave primary wave and
Speaker 3: a secondary wave. Now on nine to eleven, for the
Speaker 3: Twin Towers and Building seven, there were no S or
Speaker 3: P waves. They only registered surface waves. A surface wave
Speaker 3: is a wave meaning that a weight was lifted. You
Speaker 3: can imagine a mattress, the old time mattresses with the
Speaker 3: springs and it two people are lying on top of it.
Speaker 3: Now one person gets off. You can feel that disturbance
Speaker 3: as if the weight was removed. Now, building the Seattle
Speaker 3: Kingdom one hundred and thirty thousand tons left a two
Speaker 3: point four. People at a Taylor Swift concert jumping up
Speaker 3: and down registered at two point three and twenty twenty
Speaker 3: three or twenty twenty four somewhere are you fucking Building seven?
Speaker 3: And Seattle Kingdom was about twenty stories. Now, Building seven
Speaker 3: was forty seven stories and it weighed two hundred and
Speaker 3: thirty thousand tons, So that's one hundred thousand tons more
Speaker 3: than the Seattle Kingdome that registered two point four. What
Speaker 3: did Building seven register?
Speaker 1: I would I would, of course, I would say probably
Speaker 1: in the three or fours, right, don't you think what
Speaker 1: did it register?
Speaker 3: Zero point six?
Speaker 1: So you're telling me that a Taylor Swift concert caused
Speaker 1: more seismic activity than Building seven coming down.
Speaker 10: And the two towers, because the one tower registered at
Speaker 10: two point one and the other tower registered at two
Speaker 10: point three, there.
Speaker 3: Was nothing slamming to the ground. The most of those
Speaker 3: towers turned to dust before they hit the ground. And
Speaker 3: if you really look at the slow mo of some
Speaker 3: of those beams falling down, and what you think is
Speaker 3: dust or smoke or whatever trailing behind it, it's actually
Speaker 3: a dust. But of that physical solid metal falling to
Speaker 3: the ground, turning to dust before it hits the ground,
Speaker 3: that is metal transmutation in real time, because I don't
Speaker 3: know how well you know the layout of the World
Speaker 3: Trade Center. So if you look at the picture of
Speaker 3: the World Trade Center layout, you will see North Tower,
Speaker 3: South Tower, and it had the Thompsons Square and in
Speaker 3: the middle of the square there was a twenty foot
Speaker 3: twenty seven foot high swear in the middle of that plaza.
Speaker 3: And that swear was not buried under any rubble. Now
Speaker 3: keep in mind, twelve and a half percent for control
Speaker 3: demolition for one hundred and ten story building should give
Speaker 3: you thirteen point seven stories. Number one, those two rubble
Speaker 3: piles were missing, the basements went filled with rubble, and
Speaker 3: then you're that twenty seven foot high swear in the
Speaker 3: plaza was not covered by any debris whatsoever. And it's
Speaker 3: been repurposed and it's still in New York.
Speaker 2: What the fuck it? What the fuck happened on September eleventh.
Speaker 1: Dude?
Speaker 3: It sci fi, man, it's sci fi. Yeah, So you've
Speaker 3: got you've got the wall trades and ran about where
Speaker 3: the tea of Trade Centers is where the twenty seven
Speaker 3: foot high swear was. So guys like Richard Gage and
Speaker 3: everything one want to sell you the fact that No,
Speaker 3: both the towers were blown to bits with explosives and
Speaker 3: everything was ejected laterally twenty six hundred feet in all directions.
Speaker 3: So obviously that swear isn't further than six hundred feet away,
Speaker 3: and you can actually see the rubble around it is
Speaker 3: not even higher than that swear.
Speaker 2: Right, which again it just does not add up literally does.
Speaker 3: Not difficult for people to just compute that.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: So, and we know we know that false flags have
Speaker 1: been done before. This is not a new concept, right.
Speaker 3: Us, This liberty, pul harbor, golfer, World War to all
Speaker 3: of that.
Speaker 1: So, okay, if you if you're what you're saying is
Speaker 1: true or what what the what's the message here? Because
Speaker 1: the United States used a direct energy weapon? So and
Speaker 1: we know that Tesla had worked on something like this
Speaker 1: the FBI. When Tesla dies, they raid his They raid
Speaker 1: his hotel because he was staying in a hotel I
Speaker 1: believe in New York.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Uh, the person that raids his hotel is Trump's
Speaker 1: fucking grand great great grandfather whatever.
Speaker 3: Trump trumps Trumps, Trump's uncle John Trump or something like
Speaker 3: that was the guy who was sent by the US
Speaker 3: government to go look through his papers to see if
Speaker 3: there's anything of interest. But what Tesla also did in
Speaker 3: nineteen forty three before he died or whatever. He ended
Speaker 3: up sending blueprints for this weapon of his to numerous
Speaker 3: countries so that nobody's got the upper hand. And he
Speaker 3: was actually helping the US government, not directly because they
Speaker 3: didn't want to be associated with him, and he had
Speaker 3: an assistant that was working with them, and the government
Speaker 3: ended up giving the assistant a lab, so Tesla would
Speaker 3: feed the information to his assistant, the assistant would create
Speaker 3: all the stuff in his lab and sell that off
Speaker 3: to the US military. There's a gentleman, doctor Andrea Pruvvushka
Speaker 3: that people just need to go on to my substack
Speaker 3: and just search the under my archive search for Tesla.
Speaker 3: I've got the whole time frame there with how he
Speaker 3: sent his technology to various people, and how the US
Speaker 3: military worked with him, and then the interview with this
Speaker 3: this guy who was writing his autobiography, and he also
Speaker 3: had the papers of Nicola in his hand and and
Speaker 3: facilitated that his papers be released from the US to
Speaker 3: to Hungary sort of can go to the Tesla museum
Speaker 3: there in his in his native country as well.
Speaker 1: Okay, Now, whether Tesla was just a genius and and
Speaker 1: came up with this death ray, this this directed energy
Speaker 1: weapon on his own, I think other people have suspected
Speaker 1: that maybe you know, an alien, non human intelligence, you know,
Speaker 1: at least sparked the idea in him. And we see
Speaker 1: them through a lot of genius, right they they whether
Speaker 1: it's through thought experiment or some of them. Most people
Speaker 1: like musicians, some you know, they they'll just go out
Speaker 1: and say it like the idea came, It's coming through me,
Speaker 1: through me, and I'm just the quote unquote vessel. Yes, so,
Speaker 1: and we look at the muse the root word of
Speaker 1: music or amusement, right, and we start putting all this
Speaker 1: together now, regardless whether it's reverse engineered alien technology, right
Speaker 1: or just advancements and human technology through whatever means possible.
Speaker 1: People had premonitions of planes hitting the building, and we
Speaker 1: want to talk about this idea of Project Blue Beam, right.
Speaker 1: Do you think that that that might have been influenced
Speaker 1: as because a lot of people in the surrounding area
Speaker 1: of New York City reported having dreams premonitions of planes
Speaker 1: hitting the towers. Could that be a result of these
Speaker 1: directed energy weapons and this idea of blue being being
Speaker 1: able to trick people through literally like affecting their thoughts.
Speaker 1: Do you think that there's a possibility that the United
Speaker 1: States government or however, the deep state, whoever the fuck
Speaker 1: you want to call it, did that on purpose.
Speaker 3: Well, there was was predictive programming with the Lone Gunman
Speaker 3: around about two months or three months before that, with
Speaker 3: the pilot episode with with the plane hitting the hitting
Speaker 3: the twin towers and all of that. So there's been
Speaker 3: a lot of a lot of a lot of a
Speaker 3: lot has been written on on on predictive programming.
Speaker 9: And all of that.
Speaker 3: So these part of that, they might be people with
Speaker 3: the six things that dreamed about that possible. But the
Speaker 3: technology that they used that day was some some sort
Speaker 3: of three D predict three D projection technology. And that's
Speaker 3: what what John Lee also taught about, because he mentioned
Speaker 3: that the guys have had that technology for a very
Speaker 3: long time. He was talking about a presentation that was
Speaker 3: given where a gentleman was in an auditorium talking about
Speaker 3: the history of television, walked around between the people and
Speaker 3: all of that, and by the end of the talk
Speaker 3: he said, well, thank you for having me, and he
Speaker 3: was switched off and he just disappeared and the people
Speaker 3: couldn't even realize that this guy walking next to them
Speaker 3: it was a hologram. And that's how good it was.
Speaker 3: And if you go back to two thousand and eight
Speaker 3: during the Obama presidential race, counting the votes or something,
Speaker 3: they actually had a holographic projection being done by CNN,
Speaker 3: and they actually dumbed down the version that they showed
Speaker 3: on the TV because people would have freaked out about
Speaker 3: how lifelike it could be, so they made it look
Speaker 3: like the Star Wars little three D hologram in those stages.
Speaker 3: And you've got to keep in mind that the Black
Speaker 3: Ops technology and recess that those guys do that's so
Speaker 3: ortmentalized is forty to fifty y is ahead of what
Speaker 3: gets dripped fed to us plibs. And it's not even
Speaker 3: in the physics books that your physics teacher today would
Speaker 3: have because a lot of those. And that's how entrenched
Speaker 3: this hidden technology is. May it may be reversed, engineered,
Speaker 3: it might just be stuff that guys have thought about. Remember,
Speaker 3: I don't know, do you know about the nineteen fifty
Speaker 3: one Invention Secrecy Act? No?
Speaker 2: But I mean continue.
Speaker 3: Nineteen fifty one Invention Secrecy Act was put into plags
Speaker 3: after the Second World War because the government was afraid
Speaker 3: that you would have some sort of tinkerer create something
Speaker 3: that could be either bought by a foreign entity or
Speaker 3: whatever and then weaponized, or somebody could invent something that
Speaker 3: could be detrimental to the status quo, like somebody inventing
Speaker 3: a carburetor for his sky in nineteen seventy two that
Speaker 3: will give you what one hundred miles to the gallon,
Speaker 3: and then the guy ended up committing suicide by shooting
Speaker 3: himself twice in the back of the head. Or Stanley
Speaker 3: Myers with his water powered car, numerous other guys and
Speaker 3: even you should know Thomas E. Bearden, Lieutenant Colonel Thomas E. Bearden,
Speaker 3: and he was a big proponent of free energy devices
Speaker 3: and all of that, and he went around talking to
Speaker 3: inventors and he tried to patent a bunch of his stuff,
Speaker 3: and everything was then just anything free energy is deemed
Speaker 3: popitual motion. So anything deemed potential motion does not get
Speaker 3: approved by the US Patent Office. And that's why it's
Speaker 3: so difficult sometimes seized from big power.
Speaker 1: It's either you know, because the patent Office, I think
Speaker 1: you know, I think they sees. I can't remember the number,
Speaker 1: but it's an absurd amount of anything haveing pertaining to
Speaker 1: free energy. It's either seized and then you can once
Speaker 1: it sees under an Apple security tag, they just blacked.
Speaker 1: They shelve it, and you and the inventor is only
Speaker 1: allowed to do business with the US government at that point.
Speaker 3: Right, we've got over six thousand patents. So buggy going,
Speaker 3: bugger going to the area fifty one to see what's
Speaker 3: going on there. Repeal the nineteen fifty one invention secrecy acting,
Speaker 3: show us those six thousand paintings.
Speaker 2: Who so they weaponized the patent office. They've got this.
Speaker 1: This seems to be like you said, this one was
Speaker 1: not planned over a weekend. No, they seem to. So again,
Speaker 1: how do you deploy a direct energy weapon? Guys like
Speaker 1: Eric Hecker, for instance, who talk about we have this
Speaker 1: passive and not just passive, but this this weapon array
Speaker 1: in the Antarctic at the at the South Pole station,
Speaker 1: and it caused an earthquake in two thousand and eight
Speaker 1: when they flipped it on.
Speaker 3: If you can now ask him, ask him why. After
Speaker 3: I asked him on his on his X about Hurricane eron,
Speaker 3: why is not talking about that or the work of
Speaker 3: doctor Wood. Why immediately blocked me?
Speaker 2: I will ask him that, I will. I will.
Speaker 1: He's the only guy I've ever heard about talk about
Speaker 1: like knowing where one of these things are. So if
Speaker 1: we're going to go on that route, where was where
Speaker 1: was this direct energy weapon deployed from?
Speaker 2: Was it space?
Speaker 3: Okay, let's go back to after the dust settled. There
Speaker 3: were two US military contractors that were put into place
Speaker 3: to run the security of Ground zero, and they locked
Speaker 3: down Ground zero from September thirteen, and they also wrote
Speaker 3: the reports that made up to ten thousand page instruct
Speaker 3: These two companies are r A and SIAC, and one
Speaker 3: of the companies also rebranded to Lidose. And these guys
Speaker 3: special in psychological operations, they impact dynamics, weather research, and
Speaker 3: then also components of directed energy weapons. And the one
Speaker 3: company was also tasked with knowing at that stage of
Speaker 3: any other country who's got weapons of mass destruction. And
Speaker 3: these are two main or two of the main defendants,
Speaker 3: and doctor Judywood's q TWAN case and then also doctor
Speaker 3: Morgan's Reynolds q TAM whistle blowercase, and those two companies
Speaker 3: are part and parcel of a organization that was established
Speaker 3: in the late nineteen nineties called the Directed Energy Professional Society.
Speaker 3: One of the other founding members of this or contributors
Speaker 3: to their fund is Boeing, and Boeing does hell a
Speaker 3: lot of research into directed energy weapons as well. And
Speaker 3: this year the Directed Energy Weapon Professional Society had a
Speaker 3: seminar in the same week as nine eleven. They do
Speaker 3: it every year in the week of nine eleven, and
Speaker 3: they actually stated that the Directed Energy Weapon Department or people,
Speaker 3: it's a nine billion dollar industry and they've got up
Speaker 3: to I think ten thousand or seven thousand people employed
Speaker 3: in research of directed energy weapons. Jesus, it's been around
Speaker 3: for a very long time. And even in nineteen eighty
Speaker 3: five there was a CNN investigative report on our IF Weaponry,
Speaker 3: radio frequency weaponry and stuff where Colonel Tom E. Bearden
Speaker 3: was showing satellite pictures of the Soviets that were seemingly
Speaker 3: doing tests on some sort of weaponry that he said
Speaker 3: was like focusing energy on a distant point or even
Speaker 3: being able to extract it from a different point. And
Speaker 3: the satellite pictures that he showed were from nineteen seventy seven,
Speaker 3: and when you look at those satellite pictures, it looks
Speaker 3: a lot like the satellite pictures that you got off
Speaker 3: the ISS on nine to eleven itself. And whilst we're
Speaker 3: talking about the ISS, is that the one colonel who
Speaker 3: was on the ISS whilst they were circumventing the Earth
Speaker 3: and he was taking videos, he basically said, live on air, look,
Speaker 3: I'm looking down at New York City and I'm looking
Speaker 3: up and down the east coast to see if I
Speaker 3: can see something else. But you kind of like forgot
Speaker 3: to mention that there was a hurricane the size of
Speaker 3: KATRINOI even bigger than that, five hundred miles off the
Speaker 3: coast of New York City, and that Hurricane Erin was
Speaker 3: making a beeline for New York for four days straight
Speaker 3: and people hardly knew about There was an underreporting of
Speaker 3: this hurricane. And you know, out of experience, if a
Speaker 3: hurricane is approaching, the news agencies have a field day
Speaker 3: still living. But Jesus out of people with regards to that,
Speaker 3: and that hurricane actually affected New York on September tenth,
Speaker 3: where there was a major electrical storm in New York City.
Speaker 3: So it was a thunderstorm and all of that, and
Speaker 3: then the cool fron moved in and Hurricane Erin basically
Speaker 3: stopped dead in its track tracks for twenty four hours
Speaker 3: whilst the whole of nine to eleven happened. And as
Speaker 3: soon as Building seven dropped at five twenty pm that afternoon,
Speaker 3: it then made a one hundred and eighty degree turned
Speaker 3: to the right and then fizzled off in the next
Speaker 3: two days and over the ocean.
Speaker 1: So you think that is this a result of energy
Speaker 1: the energy weapon or is this a result of that
Speaker 1: also having the ability to control the.
Speaker 2: Weather and like, hey, guys, don't fucking hit New York.
Speaker 2: We got something going on that direction.
Speaker 3: Well, they've been able to control hurricanes since nineteen forty seven.
Speaker 1: Right, this is always tied back to like the Israelis
Speaker 1: as well the massade in that No, but the.
Speaker 3: US Navy, the US Navy's first cloud seating and everything
Speaker 3: started in nineteen forty seven.
Speaker 1: These clip that I can send you with with it,
Speaker 1: they have the same town in Florida twice by accident.
Speaker 11: Yeah, well they seed in it and then they've completely
Speaker 11: caused a hell lot of a lot of damage and
Speaker 11: what's so so strange about Hurricane Aaron Is it made
Speaker 11: a beeline and it stood.
Speaker 3: Still for that day and we can only.
Speaker 11: What's what's the English word now, speculate, speculate, speculate that
Speaker 11: if you look at.
Speaker 3: The work of John Hutchinson in his Hutchinson effect and
Speaker 3: the work that he did in his lab and then
Speaker 3: ended up in Los Alamos labs and all of that,
Speaker 3: he would create a static field and then have some
Speaker 3: deslock coils around the static field, and when he serves
Speaker 3: the juice, that's when he could manage to have metals break, split, jellify,
Speaker 3: have these metals actually would seem to be white hot
Speaker 3: but was cold to the touch. And what he was
Speaker 3: doing was and that was all ex navy surplus army
Speaker 3: equipment that he got out of good will or wherever.
Speaker 3: And he was replicating the work of Nicola Tesla, and
Speaker 3: Nicola Tesla could do all of this, and Hutchinson ended
Speaker 3: up doing this in the late seventies eighty three. The
Speaker 3: Pentagon guys came to his lab in Canada checked out
Speaker 3: what the hell he was doing, and Lieutenant Colonel or
Speaker 3: Lieutenant John Alexander you must have heard about him as well,
Speaker 3: and his five hour interview on Sean Ryan.
Speaker 2: I know him personally, I've interviewed him several times.
Speaker 1: Actually, he's a good friend. I just keep him out
Speaker 1: an arms destince. I'm friendly enough with him where I
Speaker 1: want the information he has, but I'm not friendly enough
Speaker 1: to not assume that he's not playing me.
Speaker 3: Well. He is, most probably because he definitely.
Speaker 1: He's known as the father for anyone who doesn't know,
Speaker 1: he's known as the father of non legal weaponry.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, and again, when when was the first reported
Speaker 3: use of non lethal weaponry or lasers or something like that.
Speaker 1: Funny you mentioned lasers because you know someone I can't
Speaker 1: remember where I saw this, but right like today, they
Speaker 1: have the technology that they can send a laser out
Speaker 1: and and sound.
Speaker 2: Will be projected from said laser, so like warning.
Speaker 1: So some people when they're approaching like a highly secure
Speaker 1: or sensitive facility, they'll they'll get they'll hear an audible
Speaker 1: warning in their heads do not come closer or you know,
Speaker 1: do not breach you are encroaching on highly sensitive like
Speaker 1: you know, something like that. So if we have that
Speaker 1: technology today again brings me back to the whole idea
Speaker 1: of Darper.
Speaker 2: What the fuck do they have in the black right now.
Speaker 3: But the thing they've already said publicly in twenty twenty
Speaker 3: three that the US military is now using lasers that
Speaker 3: they are beaming from satellite to satellite to US army
Speaker 3: installations in electricity free electricity like Nicola Deslo wanted to
Speaker 3: beam around the world. They already working on that. And
Speaker 3: the first reports of directed energy weapons typed laser type
Speaker 3: stuff was in nineteen eighty nine during the Panama invasion.
Speaker 3: Go watch the investigative report the Panama Deception that came
Speaker 3: out in nineteen ninety two where they mentioned that it
Speaker 3: was a chance to use experimental weapons. They show pictures
Speaker 3: of some sort of army guy or whatever that just
Speaker 3: ended up being a blob of mush, and that there
Speaker 3: were vehicles that were cut in half with some sort
Speaker 3: of laser type type thing. And that's also the first
Speaker 3: time that they used the stealth bomber that as well.
Speaker 3: Then face forward a little bit, that's early nine two
Speaker 3: thousand and three, you had the Golf War and another
Speaker 3: documentary came out in two thousand and six where these
Speaker 3: guys were doing the investigation of what was happening, and
Speaker 3: it's called Star Wars. In Iraq, that came out in
Speaker 3: two thousand and six that talks about all this directed
Speaker 3: energy weapons because they say that some sort of directed
Speaker 3: energy weapon was used on civilians there, and they also
Speaker 3: interview Colonel John Alexander about that.
Speaker 12: Really, Alexander, just ask him next time he talked to him,
Speaker 12: ask him about what he thinks about the evidence presented
Speaker 12: by doctor Judy Wood and that directed.
Speaker 3: Energy weapons were involved. And I would love to hear
Speaker 3: how he responds to that.
Speaker 2: I'll ask him literally right after we get off.
Speaker 3: The other thing is you've you've got Sean Ryan, who's
Speaker 3: who's has who talks about He's got this other series
Speaker 3: now he was talking about the Voice of God, technologies
Speaker 3: and all of that. You've got Tucker Colson in his
Speaker 3: fourth episode that says, you know, you've got to focus
Speaker 3: on on the full knowledge, but don't look at don't
Speaker 3: don't look at the directed energies. Yeah, isn't it precisely?
Speaker 2: Bye these guys, these guys.
Speaker 3: Because the thing is when it when it comes back.
Speaker 3: And and this is also Catherine Austin Fitz when she
Speaker 3: was on Tucker Colson's show as well. She was talking
Speaker 3: about the danger of breakthrough energy and how it could
Speaker 3: be weaponized. Okay. She mentioned that friends of hers put
Speaker 3: up their Breakthrough Energy conference in twenty twelve, but she
Speaker 3: made no mention of the fact that this breakthrough energy
Speaker 3: that is so dangerous when weaponized was used on nine
Speaker 3: to eleven. Well, because if it wasn't weaponized, you could
Speaker 3: use this energy and give everybody free energy.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, naturally, right, because.
Speaker 3: If you know the.
Speaker 13: Cover up of cold fusion from nineteen eighty nine, not
Speaker 13: necessarily okay, cold fusion that stage billions was being pushed
Speaker 13: into a new energy source.
Speaker 3: The guys were trying to recreate the Sun by crew.
Speaker 2: Sounds like a great idea.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So they wanted to recreate the sign. Billions of
Speaker 3: dollars pulled into it. They never got excess energy out
Speaker 3: of it. And then all of a sudden, here comes
Speaker 3: two guys with the name of Ponds and Fleischmen who
Speaker 3: were tinkering around for a couple of years in their laboratory,
Speaker 3: and they say, well, we have now created what we
Speaker 3: call is low energy nuclear reactions without ionizing radiation. You
Speaker 3: can watch the documentary What's It Watergate? Heavy Watergate, the
Speaker 3: documentary Heavy Watergate, and these two guys ended up telling
Speaker 3: going public and saying, okay, fine, we've got excess heating here.
Speaker 3: But it was new physics. They were rewriting the laws
Speaker 3: of physics because there's no way that you can put
Speaker 3: in a certain amount of energy and get more out
Speaker 3: of it in the system that they were using. And
Speaker 3: lo and behold, all of a sudden, a news conference
Speaker 3: is held by a gentleman with the name of Stephen E. Jones,
Speaker 3: Captain Thurmite, and he says, and he sits with a
Speaker 3: bunch of physicists and he says, Okay, guys, I don't
Speaker 3: think that the stuff has got merried. Who who agrees
Speaker 3: with me? And then they had science by Vote and
Speaker 3: the guys were kind of like discredited in that in
Speaker 3: that press conference. And then a day later you had
Speaker 3: the exon Valdi's disaster. And how does media work? They
Speaker 3: just love a good disaster. So then the whole discussion
Speaker 3: and the debates on cold fusion just dwindled away. And
Speaker 3: about twenty later, CNN took it upon themselves to revisit
Speaker 3: cold fusion, and you can find the YouTube video of
Speaker 3: the CNN investigative report just look for cold fusion is
Speaker 3: Hot Again. And they basically prove that it's it's true
Speaker 3: and the Pentagon is working on it. And if that
Speaker 3: wasn't suppressed way back when we could all have a small,
Speaker 3: little cold fusion reactor in our house and just to
Speaker 3: work that into your care and you will never have
Speaker 3: to buy fuel, pay electricity, and even something as small
Speaker 3: like this little pen will become ninety percent cheaper. So
Speaker 3: what happens to your quality of life if everything becomes
Speaker 3: ninety percent cheaper pretty much overnight, if this technology is
Speaker 3: released to the world, And that's agin to what happened
Speaker 3: on nine to eleven, because it's some sort of cold
Speaker 3: fusion event. Because even the stories of molten mikel and
Speaker 3: the very warm rubble pile, all of that is complete,
Speaker 3: not in this direction.
Speaker 2: Huh, So do you think that they're so?
Speaker 1: Ronald Reagan had this Star Wars initiative as sd I,
Speaker 1: right or as I can't remember exactly what's the strategic defense.
Speaker 1: So the idea was to put satellites up, but these
Speaker 1: satellites would have active what you would like, I would
Speaker 1: assume is directed energy weapons.
Speaker 3: To shoot down incoming ballistic missiles with nukes on them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but just like everything, this is a dual purpose technology, right,
Speaker 1: so it can be used to take down an incoming
Speaker 1: ballistic missile, or maybe it could also take down a
Speaker 1: building or two or five.
Speaker 2: Or several.
Speaker 1: So I would very much employ implore people to look
Speaker 1: into Star Wars. Billions of dollars poured into it, and
Speaker 1: then it just never happened quiet quote unquote never happens.
Speaker 3: We know. In nineteen eighty nine they actually Ronald Reagan
Speaker 3: was really impressed and reported back to the world that
Speaker 3: we were successful in our first test. And then in
Speaker 3: the nineties it just went and even John Hutchinson and
Speaker 3: John Hutchinson worked on the Star Wars program as well.
Speaker 3: Twenty twelve, Jesse Ventura was doing a whole series on
Speaker 3: nine eleven, so he started with a bombs and thurmite
Speaker 3: and then eventually on a book tour he was he
Speaker 3: did his I think it was a book of thirty
Speaker 3: reports or secrets and CEI doesn't want to know whatever.
Speaker 3: But he was on his book to assigning books, and
Speaker 3: then a gentleman came to him and then basically said
Speaker 3: he took this book, took this book and plopped it
Speaker 3: down in front of him and said, if you want
Speaker 3: to know what happened on nine to eleven read this book,
Speaker 3: and he left his business card and X and retired
Speaker 3: NASA guy, and they when he did his series they
Speaker 3: called the episode was called the Death Ray or something
Speaker 3: like that. And there was another gentleman who was also
Speaker 3: X NASA employee, who was actually the guy who contacted
Speaker 3: Jesse and he said, look, dude, I was working on
Speaker 3: this Wars program. We've perfected it, and the way that
Speaker 3: it basically works is we can take take out a
Speaker 3: whole city fucking And two days after he basically posted
Speaker 3: a picture with Jesse venture in his own website, the
Speaker 3: guy died of a heart aday.
Speaker 1: No way, yep.
Speaker 3: And so when he was talking to John Hutchinson talking
Speaker 3: about the Star Wars program to twenty two scientists working
Speaker 3: on the Star Wars program were also all taken out
Speaker 3: or died mysteriously, or died suddenly or freaky accidents or
Speaker 3: something right, And you can actually find documentaries on on
Speaker 3: this anomaly of these these scientists just dying off. We're
Speaker 3: all linked to the Star Wars program.
Speaker 1: You know, it sounds again anyone in the UFO community
Speaker 1: will know exactly what I'm about to just I'm about
Speaker 1: to say, in the forties and fifties, gravity.
Speaker 2: Like in all the like Popular Mechanics and.
Speaker 1: All the like science magazines and newspapers at the time,
Speaker 1: they were like, we're about to crack gravity. We're about
Speaker 1: to crack it. It's the next thing. It's the the
Speaker 1: it's that we're right on the cusp boom go silent.
Speaker 1: Does it go silent because they failed, or does it
Speaker 1: go silent because they succeeded and they took it underground
Speaker 1: and and into like you know, programs like DARPA. Most
Speaker 1: people in the UFO community will say that it went
Speaker 1: it went, it went black, meaning it went into the
Speaker 1: black programs. So I what, I wow, wow, Because I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have to have you back on this is far
Speaker 1: too long a conversation to just comprise it. Let's get
Speaker 1: into a little bit of Okay, So what happened in
Speaker 1: Pennsylvania and what happened at the Pentagon is the same
Speaker 1: technology used or is this something different?
Speaker 3: Well, Shanksville was a set up scene. It was they
Speaker 3: found no jet fuel in ground ground samples. There were
Speaker 3: strange levitation effects that even affected the people in the
Speaker 3: town itself when the people arrived there. Even the mayor's
Speaker 3: brother arrived there around about in less than five minutes
Speaker 3: after the alleged plane crash crashed, and they said there
Speaker 3: was nothing resembling a plane there. There was a small
Speaker 3: cottage very close by that had a garage door wrinkle
Speaker 3: up like a piece of confetti. So if you look
Speaker 3: at the twenty nineteen Ethiopian flight, I cont remember the name,
Speaker 3: the number. Just search Ethiopian Airlines twenty nineteen crash site.
Speaker 3: The plane crashed in a similar way as we were
Speaker 3: told with Shanksville. And if you look at that debris field,
Speaker 3: it's insane. A plane doesn't get swallowed by by the ground.
Speaker 3: And the official story is that they found and yeah,
Speaker 3: what the fuck is that? That's just a hole in
Speaker 3: the fucking ground, man.
Speaker 1: That's literally what it looks like, is like they just
Speaker 1: like and then they blew up the ground and then
Speaker 1: they scattered some metal across.
Speaker 3: And and it's it's it's unofficial data that flight ninety
Speaker 3: three was still airborne well after the alleged crash time
Speaker 3: as well, all four planes.
Speaker 1: O my god, and then and then and when it
Speaker 1: comes to the Pentagon, the official narrative is not not
Speaker 1: only is this guy the worst of the pilots.
Speaker 2: He couldn't even fly a Cessna.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, and then he makes a fucking almost a
Speaker 1: two hundred degree turn right banks. It comes down perfectly
Speaker 1: aligned with the Pentagon, and then just so happens to
Speaker 1: hit the one section of the building where all the
Speaker 1: accounting is.
Speaker 3: And also that also that loop, that loop is impossible
Speaker 3: structurally for a plane to be able to do that,
Speaker 3: because it's gonna you're gonna hit five or seven g's
Speaker 3: and the plane will will will break up. It cannot
Speaker 3: fly at five hundred feet pretty much parallel to the ground,
Speaker 3: like a few feet up. If you if you stall
Speaker 3: want to believe the government narrative, just go search the
Speaker 3: name Adam Eisenberg. He is a third Infantree Alpha company.
Speaker 3: He was He spent two hundred and forty hours at
Speaker 3: the Pentagon clearing debris and all of that, and he
Speaker 3: said that there is nothing that resembled a plane there.
Speaker 3: And the reason why he can talk out of experiences
Speaker 3: because later on in his life he ended up in.
Speaker 9: A working for ups and they they it was a
Speaker 9: warehouse stocking Bratton Whitney jet engine parts.
Speaker 3: So he's well acquainted with the parts and everything, and
Speaker 3: when COVID hit, he just something in him snapped, and
Speaker 3: he said, well, I haven't been believing that the plane
Speaker 3: crash there for all these years, and.
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, and I think I know it snapped
Speaker 1: in them. Is that it was another I mean, you
Speaker 1: could argue that the pandemic was was oh god, I'm
Speaker 1: going to get a fucking video demootisk because I just
Speaker 1: said that. You could argue that the pandemic was the
Speaker 1: latest and a long line of control mechanisms, but.
Speaker 3: Also it was it was a curse and a blessing
Speaker 3: at the same time, because I woke up a hell
Speaker 3: of a lot of people and now they're revisiting everything right,
Speaker 3: and a lot of people are slowly but surely waking
Speaker 3: making their way back to nine to eleven, especially in
Speaker 3: America with with with this trauma that is still hanging
Speaker 3: over people and the way that you were conditioned. Yes,
Speaker 3: that's really evil what they did to you when you
Speaker 3: were youngster man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, literally sitting there and you are just told for
Speaker 2: for not people.
Speaker 1: If anyone wants to, like, really do the the do
Speaker 1: the mouth picture every day for at least a year
Speaker 1: sixty seconds where you as a kid were told explicitly
Speaker 1: to remember nine to eleven and for the people that died.
Speaker 1: So a third grade kid, I'm doing that every day
Speaker 1: for a year.
Speaker 2: That's good.
Speaker 13: What is?
Speaker 2: What if that's not a psychological operation?
Speaker 1: What is? What is?
Speaker 3: And with the fast forward twenty four years and then
Speaker 3: university students, if you asked them about nine eleven, they've
Speaker 3: got no fre clue.
Speaker 12: No.
Speaker 3: I was mentioned in passing to us twice in our
Speaker 3: whole school upbringing. So where the hell did they never forget?
Speaker 1: Go?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: It went to a certain people, and that's it? Specific
Speaker 1: targeted audience is that? Where's that's where it went. I
Speaker 1: have a I have a niece, or I guess you could.
Speaker 1: She's not technically my niece, but I was just at
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving with her and I'm sitting next to her. We
Speaker 1: have like this traditional Uno game, and you know, she's
Speaker 1: like eleven And I asked her. I was like, Hey,
Speaker 1: do you learn about nine to eleven in school? And
Speaker 1: she said yeah.
Speaker 2: I was like, can you tell me what happened?
Speaker 1: She said, some planes at some things that I don't
Speaker 1: really know too much about it, And it just fucking
Speaker 1: it set me back. I was at a loss for words.
Speaker 1: Because she never she did not. It's not that fact
Speaker 1: that she just that she knows that two planes hit
Speaker 1: a couple of hours. She doesn't know that the Pentagon
Speaker 1: was also hit. She doesn't know that in Shanksville a
Speaker 1: plane allegedly crashed in a heroic story you know of
Speaker 1: passengers overcoming hijackers, right that you think that that's something
Speaker 1: that would teach you. Right with the Pentagon, I mean,
Speaker 1: it is two thousand and one, but that whole area
Speaker 1: is surveilled, and we don't have any footage of any
Speaker 1: plane going in, like clear footage. I think the only
Speaker 1: footage I've ever seen. You see like a white thing
Speaker 1: kind of looks like a missile, to be honest, more
Speaker 1: resembles a missile come through the frame and then goes
Speaker 1: out of the frame, and then you're kind of like, Okay,
Speaker 1: then it hits the Pentagon, but.
Speaker 3: You don't know your bubble on that it's not a
Speaker 3: missile either.
Speaker 2: Again, with what you're saying, and and and and those.
Speaker 3: And those frames that were released to the public, they've
Speaker 3: proven that frame thirty three and thirty four was photoshopped.
Speaker 2: Jesus fuck it.
Speaker 3: So there's a big problem with that. And then if
Speaker 3: you go and look at the work of nine to
Speaker 3: eleven planes research more condent out of the UK. There
Speaker 3: were also the seismic readings recorded for the Pentagon event.
Speaker 3: It wasn't a seismic event, it was an electrical disturbance.
Speaker 3: So there are a lot of things pointing to the
Speaker 3: fact that it was some sort of kinetic directed energy
Speaker 3: weapon event.
Speaker 2: There, that's what it looks like. Look at I mean,
Speaker 2: you look at the fucking side of the pack. Look
Speaker 2: at that. How is it? How is it?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 2: I mean, that is fucking that. That is lazy, man.
Speaker 1: That is laser precision, and it hits the one part
Speaker 1: where they hold all the paper accounting.
Speaker 2: So two point three trains.
Speaker 3: It's just a coincidence, man. How can you be such
Speaker 3: a conspiracy theorist.
Speaker 1: Come on, it's just a coincidence, man, Just a coincidence,
Speaker 1: right that It fucking it's blash.
Speaker 2: Could another night.
Speaker 1: If they did this, right, if this this whole thing
Speaker 1: is staged to some degree, I guess my next question.
Speaker 2: Is what will the next nine to eleven look like?
Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know, I don't know. I can just
Speaker 3: tell you go back to the Oklahoma City bombing. That's
Speaker 3: also directed energy weapon. Sorry to say so, just go
Speaker 3: look at that the next nine to eleven. Well, if
Speaker 3: more people, if there was a rallying around Dr Morgan
Speaker 3: Reynolds and doctor with in two thousand and seven, and
Speaker 3: people then could understand what happened on nine to eleven,
Speaker 3: then COVID nineteen wouldn't have happened and our world would
Speaker 3: have been a lot different. I think people are waking
Speaker 3: up more now because they can see the way the
Speaker 3: playbook plays out. We know October seven was allowed to happen.
Speaker 3: There's more than enough stuff to have people see through
Speaker 3: that ruse now as well.
Speaker 1: Right, the best intelligence agency, the intelligence agency that blue
Speaker 1: motherfucker's up with pagers couldn't stop that.
Speaker 2: What the fuck are you telling? What are you trying
Speaker 2: to tell me?
Speaker 3: But guys have come out and said that they were
Speaker 3: told to stand down and go go do something else
Speaker 3: for the next three hours.
Speaker 1: Dude, I don't know what's happening, but Israel I'm getting
Speaker 1: really fucking fed up with. And this is coming from
Speaker 1: a person who my partner is Jewish, right, I try
Speaker 1: to there is a difference between people, the Jewish people
Speaker 1: in the Israeli government, huge separation. But how is one
Speaker 1: of the smallest countries, wasn't even a fucking a nation
Speaker 1: state until the forties. How do they have America? By
Speaker 1: the by the nutsack? Why do Why is it when
Speaker 1: they say jump, we say how I why?
Speaker 3: And why why are they? Why are they getting from
Speaker 3: twenty to twenty Why have they been getting something like
Speaker 3: fifteen or twenty billion dollars a year for fuck knows
Speaker 3: how many years? And there's a new law that's come
Speaker 3: out or that's been signed. Now I think that's going
Speaker 3: to be twenty or thirty billion dollars a year for
Speaker 3: the next twenty years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and God that you're on a If you're in
Speaker 1: a college campus and you criticize Israel, boy, I come
Speaker 1: from the Ivy League area, you know, in Boston. If
Speaker 1: you're if you're a college student, you talk Israel, dude,
Speaker 1: they'll stone you.
Speaker 2: All of a sudden.
Speaker 1: You'll see people revolt, I mean, reduce themselves back to
Speaker 1: the stone age.
Speaker 2: That's what it looks like.
Speaker 1: I mean, God forbid you question question the big guy,
Speaker 1: you know, and I think I mean I wasn't a
Speaker 1: huge fan of Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to pretend that I.
Speaker 3: Was.
Speaker 2: I wasn't.
Speaker 1: I don't get that political. I'm starting to because of
Speaker 1: what happened to him. Just something is it just me
Speaker 1: or just since nine to eleven, something has not felt
Speaker 1: right for most of my life, something's felt off.
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is. I don't know.
Speaker 3: There's a bigger awakening in your country and in the
Speaker 3: world in general. I just think I can't understand how
Speaker 3: it happened that that your your country got got co
Speaker 3: opted and controlled by another country. And there's been a
Speaker 3: lot of people who've been talking about it. You can
Speaker 3: find guys talking about a pack and how the Senate
Speaker 3: has been being bought out as far back as the
Speaker 3: nineteen seventies, just as you have the hearings that were
Speaker 3: held in the Senate where they were talking about the
Speaker 3: CIA infiltration in news media and all of that. And
Speaker 3: you still have people today that won't won't believe it.
Speaker 3: For me, as a South African looking at what's going
Speaker 3: on in America right now, it is to me a
Speaker 3: the best circus to watch. I don't need to do
Speaker 3: what's well, I don't need to watch soapias or anything
Speaker 3: like that. I just need to what's what's going on
Speaker 3: in your in your fair enough, in your politics and everything.
Speaker 3: It's it's crazy. At least you seem to be an
Speaker 3: American that that can define what a woman is, but
Speaker 3: there's still a lot of people that can't do that. Man.
Speaker 3: It's it's it's zird just to see how how even
Speaker 3: look if somebody comes into your country illegally it's illegal?
Speaker 3: Why why would people have an issue with somebody being
Speaker 3: deported it didn't follow the stringent ways of getting into
Speaker 3: your country. Even Yeah, South Africa, we've got a major
Speaker 3: problem with that, but we've got a failed state. That's
Speaker 3: our country has been in decline for over thirty years.
Speaker 3: So I can understand the problems that we've got. But
Speaker 3: you guys are supposed to be first world. You guys
Speaker 3: are supposed to be the superpower of top of the pile.
Speaker 3: But it also seems like you guys have some of
Speaker 3: the most stupid people in government, and never mind just
Speaker 3: people and people in the streets. Because you can walk
Speaker 3: down and ask them who the Kardashian married, or what
Speaker 3: they wore to which gala event, or ask them something
Speaker 3: about where pop out New Guinea is and they won't
Speaker 3: be able to answer a question like that, and it's
Speaker 3: it's it's a fact that your educational system is it's
Speaker 3: just dumbing down people like you can't believe. And hopefully
Speaker 3: you guys can do something about this, because if you
Speaker 3: guys are going to be following the same timeline as
Speaker 3: we did here in South Africa for the last thirty years,
Speaker 3: yours has just rammed up a lot faster, and you
Speaker 3: guys need to really really wake up, otherwise you're going
Speaker 3: to be even worse off than than.
Speaker 1: Europe is at the do you This is gonna will
Speaker 1: wrap up in a minute because I gotta, I gotta.
Speaker 2: I'll have to have you back on for a part two.
Speaker 1: This is like, I'm gonna keep this series open, like
Speaker 1: open to the point where I'm revisiting at least once
Speaker 1: a month and trying to get as many people people
Speaker 1: on the ground that were there, first responders, people like that.
Speaker 3: I would love to speak to them as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm gonna I will.
Speaker 1: If there's something I'm good at, it's getting people that
Speaker 1: I have no business talking to to talk to me.
Speaker 3: That's cool. Yeah, So dude, dude, then please see if
Speaker 3: you can speak to go go and make a list
Speaker 3: of the gentlemen who the first responders who survived the
Speaker 3: North Tower disintegration, Mickey Cross and the rest of these guys.
Speaker 3: Because that's the one thing that I would love to
Speaker 3: is get on a plane, fly over to America and
Speaker 3: do a little documentary series and go interview those guys
Speaker 3: and have them sit down and watch the presentation by
Speaker 3: doctor Julie Wood and see what the responses would be.
Speaker 1: Well, what's nice is I can fly to New York
Speaker 1: and literally thirty minutes, I can drive, I can get
Speaker 1: I could drive there and drive back all in one day. Jeez, right,
Speaker 1: it's nice for me because New York's not close. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I would love to do something larger and and really
Speaker 1: get to the heart of some of these questions because
Speaker 1: something doesn't feel right. And I think, I think anyone
Speaker 1: who doesn't look at nine to eleven the day and
Speaker 1: just from just the evidence of the things that changed
Speaker 1: on a day on our daily lives worldwide, worldwide, the
Speaker 1: people I don't. I don't think people understand the ramifications
Speaker 1: of what happened that day are still being felt today.
Speaker 1: If not, if it's not a continued direct operation of
Speaker 1: it's said.
Speaker 3: It's set up where we are now. If if, if
Speaker 3: they didn't get away with it that easily, because that's
Speaker 3: the thing. If people woke up that day and said, no,
Speaker 3: all of this, yeah shit, yeah.
Speaker 1: If they have that day they were like, wait a second,
Speaker 1: let's take a fucking step back.
Speaker 2: Are you are you sure? Are you sure?
Speaker 3: Are you sure?
Speaker 2: This is what happened?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 1: And then it just march to war and and call
Speaker 1: for someone's head, literally calling for Osama bin Laden's head.
Speaker 3: People had forty five seconds, within forty five seconds.
Speaker 1: My mother, sweetest woman ever, he when he was killed
Speaker 1: that day, and that that operation, people were in the
Speaker 1: streets partying.
Speaker 2: What the fuck was that?
Speaker 3: What was that?
Speaker 2: That's not a civilized culture.
Speaker 1: They paraded that kill around and then they dropped him
Speaker 1: in the middle of the ocean, right, no one knows why. Well,
Speaker 1: they say so, they can't build a mass grave in
Speaker 1: remembrance of him. But something doesn't feel right. I accept
Speaker 1: that he was a terrorist, I accept that terrorism it exists.
Speaker 1: I accept all of these things. But I'm also not
Speaker 1: quick to say that, you know, given who we are,
Speaker 1: that's something like this, such a absolutely catastrophic intelligence failure,
Speaker 1: such a thing could ever happen in a world where
Speaker 1: we call ourselves the dominant superpower. How could people that
Speaker 1: lived in mud huts do something that sophisticated.
Speaker 2: It doesn't add up. It doesn't add up.
Speaker 3: It's it's theater, you guys, was sold a story because
Speaker 3: there's got to be a story. There's got to be
Speaker 3: a reason why the buildings collapsed because of a plane.
Speaker 3: But if you go do your research on what a
Speaker 3: plane and can and cannot do, that falls. They had
Speaker 3: to get rid of the aspect and a military installation.
Speaker 3: But if you had to be hit, but in military
Speaker 3: installation needed to be hit to make it an active
Speaker 3: war terrorist attack if it was a terrorist.
Speaker 1: If I was a terrorist hijacker and I'm flying into
Speaker 1: d C, I hit the fucking White House, why would
Speaker 1: you hit the Pentagon? Why not hit the White House
Speaker 1: where the President lives. It's the most fucking famous building
Speaker 1: in the world. Why would you not hit that? If
Speaker 1: you were a hijacker who could precisely target the Pentagon's
Speaker 1: accounting division, why not it?
Speaker 2: To Ittos.
Speaker 3: And I approached that most pilots try to do in
Speaker 3: simulators and they can't even manage that. Because Jesse Ventura
Speaker 3: did an episode on the Pentagon itself, and one of
Speaker 3: these guys who were on his team was able to
Speaker 3: fly Assessna. He did some of that, and then they
Speaker 3: put him in a flight simulator where with a pilot,
Speaker 3: and he tried the same approach and he couldn't manage it.
Speaker 3: And that pilot also stated again, well, if you're flying
Speaker 3: that low at five hundred miles an hour, it won't
Speaker 3: be able to do that because the wings and stuff
Speaker 3: would have separated from the plane. A long time ago.
Speaker 3: All that information has been put out in mainstream media,
Speaker 3: even though there was a conspiracy type or series, but
Speaker 3: that's as far back as twenty twelve, and you still
Speaker 3: have people trying to make the argument for a real plane.
Speaker 3: And then you've got army soldiers who were part of
Speaker 3: the cleanup stating, sorry, guys, but it's bullshit, and the
Speaker 3: nine to eleven truth movement shuns them. Listen to the interviews.
Speaker 3: You can find a bunch of the interviews of Adam
Speaker 3: Eisenberg and where he basically talks to you about his
Speaker 3: interactions with people like Richard Gage, Greg Jenkins, all of
Speaker 3: these guys, David Chandler, the so called nine to eleven
Speaker 3: truth a celebrities that you guys have, and he's got
Speaker 3: some serious war stories to tell and you should. Maybe
Speaker 3: I'll send you his email address so to state that
Speaker 3: you can reach out to him as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So where can people find you and continue to
Speaker 1: look at your work? You've compiled some of the Next
Speaker 1: time we'll have you on, maybe I'll just let you
Speaker 1: do the presentation because I kind of want to hear
Speaker 1: it start to finish, so we'll have to set that up.
Speaker 2: I want to hear. I want that. Maybe I'll do
Speaker 2: that next. Where can people find you and continue to
Speaker 2: learn about this?
Speaker 3: Well, I'm I'm on substack. I've got a whole bunch
Speaker 3: of articles there that I've been writing since twenty twenty three.
Speaker 3: That's at nine eleven revision. So substack dot com forward
Speaker 3: slash at nine to eleven revision. Then on x I'm
Speaker 3: really interactive there at nine to eleven revisited, and then
Speaker 3: you can also find me on Rumble. I've got a
Speaker 3: hell of a lot of content there is revisiting nine
Speaker 3: to eleven, don't I'm on YouTube, but YouTube doesn't like me.
Speaker 3: I'm on my fifth.
Speaker 14: Channel anyway, three years, So so find me on substack
Speaker 14: rumble and X do you have a Telegram channel that
Speaker 14: I link in my.
Speaker 3: In the BB of my sub stack articles as well,
Speaker 3: that I set up as a library where it's really
Speaker 3: easy to download the content and telegram, and it's a
Speaker 3: group with a bunch of subgroups as well, So if
Speaker 3: you're on your cell phone, you're not going to easily
Speaker 3: see the subgroups, but go onto your laptop and you'll
Speaker 3: see all the subgroups and just download the stuff there.
Speaker 3: It's set up as a as a learning hub and
Speaker 3: just drop a comment if you've got questions, and anybody
Speaker 3: who who wants to have a discussion reach out to me.
Speaker 3: That's sometimes the best way to go through all of
Speaker 3: this because a lot of people have got preconceived ideas.
Speaker 3: Strangely enough, about two weeks ago, a gentleman who's a
Speaker 3: lifelong New Yorker still believed in the radio controlled planes
Speaker 3: and control demolition and all of that, and you came
Speaker 3: into a friend of mine's asking a bunch of questions.
Speaker 3: He ended up private messaging me. I told him to
Speaker 3: just go watch nine to eleven Alchemy Facing Reality and
Speaker 3: tell me what you think, and then let's schedule a
Speaker 3: zoom call and after watching that documentary and looking at
Speaker 3: the work of doctor Judy Wood and Dr Morgan Reynolds,
Speaker 3: he's completely on the page. Now we can realize that
Speaker 3: Project Bluebeam was in play on nine eleven and an
Speaker 3: exotic weapon, an exotic weaponry was used. Dude. In twenty fifteen,
Speaker 3: Stephen Greer was asked direct question about this and he
Speaker 3: sidestepped it like he don't believe.
Speaker 2: Of course he did.
Speaker 3: And how the hell can all these guys in the
Speaker 3: UFO field be scurrying around this. You guys have all
Speaker 3: been waiting for Project Bluebeam to happen, and it's already
Speaker 3: already happened.
Speaker 1: Have you said the arm the guy he went on,
Speaker 1: the guy that went on Danny Jones and showed not
Speaker 1: not and this is this is about Greer. He showed
Speaker 1: this like article and and and evidence that brought Greer
Speaker 1: into like he got married.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I didn't want to say it out.
Speaker 1: Loud, Thank you for saying it, but Greer got married
Speaker 1: and that he never written yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, so
Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about. Yes, yes, So that's
Speaker 1: why I think besides that that he talks about all
Speaker 1: the ship that's needed, he talks about all the ingredients.
Speaker 2: He just doesn't want to put them together to bake
Speaker 2: that nine eleven cake.
Speaker 3: If you know what I'm saying, I've got a I've
Speaker 3: got a specific article where I take statements of Greer,
Speaker 3: statements of doctor Wood and all of that. It's basically
Speaker 3: going too my substake into my archive and just just
Speaker 3: stop in the UFO and you'll find that article and
Speaker 3: I break it down showing how disingenuous this arshol is
Speaker 3: because he's running a honeypot. Yeah, he's running. So many
Speaker 3: guys in the UFO field noticed that there's this other
Speaker 3: it's a guy with a beard, his ex navy seal
Speaker 3: and the older guy I can't remember the names. And
Speaker 3: they had a young young guy who who was also
Speaker 3: talking about directed energy weapons recently. And the guys all
Speaker 3: talking around this, but none of them want want to
Speaker 3: connect it to nine to eleven. Why what are they
Speaker 3: so scared of?
Speaker 2: I know, I think I know what they're scared of.
Speaker 2: I think I think I know.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's the thing is, it seems the d
Speaker 1: ODA has approved up to a certain degree. Right they
Speaker 1: call they call it even they even call them whistleblowers.
Speaker 1: They're not fucking whistleblowers. They're pr agents fucking giving you
Speaker 1: trolled disclosure story right, Like, there's no real UFO whistleblower
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 3: They are perception manages right right.
Speaker 1: And it's it's concerning to me. It is concerning to
Speaker 1: me that, you know, because no one wants to they think,
Speaker 1: and this is my my own opinion about the UFO community.
Speaker 2: They don't want to.
Speaker 1: Admit that the same people that are controlling like the
Speaker 1: Epstein's and the Ditties and the nine to eleven stuff,
Speaker 1: they don't want to admit that the same people that
Speaker 1: are doing that that are the same people that are
Speaker 1: retrieving these these craft and and and then covering it
Speaker 1: up and then using said technology to enrich themselves. This
Speaker 1: this idea of the deep state. They don't want to
Speaker 1: say that Jeffrey Epstein and Julane Maxwell were collecting just
Speaker 1: Nordic like Swedish men and we're going Maxwell that's all.
Speaker 1: She had it as as our assistance. And their hair
Speaker 1: would go missing and you know, like when you take
Speaker 1: a shower, your hair goes in the drain. There's guys
Speaker 1: that would come home and then the hair would be
Speaker 1: missing from the think and and Why was Epstein so
Speaker 1: connected into the idea of of free, free energy, Why
Speaker 1: was he so involved in that research, Why was he
Speaker 1: so curiously sparked by all of that? Why was he
Speaker 1: blackmailing the most important people, right the ditties of the world.
Speaker 2: They're in every fucking industry and then they control the
Speaker 2: world that way.
Speaker 1: I mean, the evidence is all right there, just no
Speaker 1: one wants to connect it, but everyone wants to get paid.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing.
Speaker 3: And the thing is the thing is people don't don't
Speaker 3: know that there are three camp camps of truth awareness.
Speaker 3: The first camp is government narrative. Second one is the
Speaker 3: official counter narrative that's completely for with with truth seekers,
Speaker 3: truth tellers, quintel pro agents, agents and all of that.
Speaker 3: And that's where everybody gets stuck. And you think, okay, fine,
Speaker 3: because the Sky is talking the right talk everything against
Speaker 3: the government or whatever. They don't realize that the Sky
Speaker 3: is an agent and they don't go deeper so they
Speaker 3: can find Camp three, where the real truth is, and
Speaker 3: that's where you get censored, the platformed, vilified, made fun
Speaker 3: of and everything. And it's very difficult getting to that
Speaker 3: third camp. And because it's such a lonely place. People
Speaker 3: then easily fall back into Camp two.
Speaker 2: And it's much to struggle, that's much.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you that it pays more to be in
Speaker 1: camp two than it does to be in Camp three. Right,
Speaker 1: if you want to be able to speak at conferences
Speaker 1: and you know, get those get those fees from writing
Speaker 1: the books and documentaries, then then people find Camp two
Speaker 1: and they get real comfy, right, because life at the
Speaker 1: top is fun, especially when you're looking down.
Speaker 2: But thank you so much for doing this.
Speaker 1: We'll definitely have you back on for everyone watching in
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Speaker 2: Everyone gets the same shit and we'll see you next time.
Speaker 3: Keep cool.
Speaker 2: What was I gonna say?
Speaker 3: It was?
Speaker 1: I was gonna say a catchy phrase at the end.
Speaker 1: I had it, but I lost it, So I'll say
Speaker 1: it next time, all right, Yeah, we'll definitely.
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